Corporations and investors need tax breaks to create more jobs

>corporations and investors need tax breaks to create more jobs

>taxing them at 95%+ will improve the economy

Not just corporations. Any and all business. Including Jose's Lawn and Tree Service.
If anything should be regulated it's what is and isn't tax deductible - but this is impossible to enforce so might as well not worry about that either.

>jobs emerge out of business having extra money
unless the job is just some "No Show" bullshit job the owner gives to his sisters best friends son than thats not how it works.
you can give a 100% tax break to a factory that makes Robot Rapists...there just isn't a market for it.
Its not going to create new jobs

>>corporations and investors need tax breaks to create more jobs

We tax corporations higher than pretty much every other country in the civilized world. This is why they leave their money overseas. Do you even math, faggot?

My father owns a small insurance business. When he makes more money, he hires more people.

The opposite is also true, it has been proven that when minimum wage goes up, people get fired and jobs cut.

You try to talk about things you know nothing about.

I thought this video wasnt on the interwebs

>he doesn't believe trump
>he expects trump to provide evidence

fuck off shill. our lord god emperor trump doesn't have to justify himself to us. he tells us what to do and we do it, and that's it, and here, he says that taxes have to be cut. end of story.

Its a fake pic

>my dad
hahahahahahahahhaha, Anyway if doesn't simply hire people because he has extra money. He hires them because he has work for them to do
So try again

>having work that needs to be done means people will do it for free

Is that Chubbock?

Can I work for your dad?

No, retard.

It's funny you find that so funny. Let me guess, your dad was a loser?

>When he makes more money, he hires more people.
Horse shit, the whole point is to do as much work as possible with the smallest cost possible. He doesn't hire based on profits, he hires based on demand for his product (Anything else is literally retarded). "Making money" is just a by product of demand.

I must watch the real video before I pass

I such a urban legend and being that it was filmed live makes no sense that it isn't floating around somwhere

The Steve Irwin one is another one, it was actually his will to play his last video if he died by an animal

>It's funny you find that so funny. Let me guess, your dad was a loser?
OP was raised by a single mother. Dad left before he ever met him. Grew up on welfare and was never taught how to manage money. Now thinks stealing other people's money is a viable political solution. "Please Bernie, give me free shit. I deserve it b/c boomers ruined the country."

Neither one exist. If the Chubbock one did someone wouldve proved it by now. The Steve Irwin one was ordered destroyed by his wife, there was only one copy

You know it's possible to have the demand, but not have the money to higher more workers, right? Sometimes things aren't so straight forward. Have you ever listened to the other side of the argument? That's sort of a big part of it, high taxes and too much regulation can stunt growth.

I agreed with everything up until...
>"I deserve it b/c boomers ruined the country."
Boomers did ruin both our countries. They are the ones who voted for all our current socialist policies.

>this video

what are you refering to?

>work that doesn't need to be done means people will be hired to do it because there is extra money
people generally don't spend money to hire people to not work
(unless its hollywood...and thats mainly to dodge taxes)

>posting this on Sup Forums makes me feel better about doing nothing to actually better the economy

Christine Chubbock's suicide on live television

FUCK YOU COMMIE!!!!!! businesses literally hire people not to work because they just have "extra money" don't you know how economics work?

>Buisnesses need a competitive environment to compete with other countries and make investment in the US suitable for business
Fixed that.

When a business owner has more money, he expands the business or else he squanders the profits. Thus, he needs to hire more people.

However, I wouldnt expect much economic literacy from a socialsit leaf.

TRUMPED UP TRICKLE DOWN

YOU KEKS FELL FOR THE MEME

NOW BACK TO WORK SLAVE

this is true but its not "infinite" where if you cut taxes/regulations to zero a business would hire everyone forever.

i see you've never worked for the government.

the reason we have useless jobs is because contractors need a body in a space so they can bill for that person--no one works because there's actually work to do. you forget a large part of our job economy are people who are hired to hire more people, or administrate the hiring/moving/firing of employees. you forget how many contracts and businesses center solely on providing bodies to other businesses

>people generally don't spend money to hire people to not work
That's true but there can also be an ebb and flow to the amount of work they have at any given time. Larger companies can, at least to some degree, afford to keep people on when work is slow. For instance at my job currently we're in this weird phase were there's not much to do, so I've been sitting on my ass for the past month getting paid to not do a hell of a lot (I work from home, so I'm usually here shit posting).

>its not "infinite"
Yea I wouldn't argue that. But it hurts smaller companies more than larger companies.

>You know it's possible to have the demand, but not have the money to higher more workers, right?
What are lines of credit? What is direct investment?

I ain't even arguing for taxes and regulation, but arguing that its impossible to hire without government tax exemptions is idiotic. Especially if that product is in demand.

The average Clinton voter makes $36,000 annually on average. $72,000 is what Trump voters make on average. Fool. The only people hurt by this are $150,000 plus households in CA, and NY.

Who see a raise in taxes.

the market dictates that though.

>arguing that its impossible to hire without government tax exemptions is idiotic
I never tried to argued that.

Stop quoting the lugenpresse

They don't NEED tax breaks to create more jobs. The fact is that tax breaks help create more jobs. Take your social justice bullshit to a country where it's needed like China. They seem to have a solution akin to what you agree with.

thats not true, some old ass executives dont know the urban legend

your ALL CAPS NAME is a corporation
that's why you pay taxes,
because you claim that name.

Yes its what nordic utopias do in fact :^)

you do remote work for a company that can afford to keep you paid during off season...? j/c what do you do? i'd love a work from home position

two income earners (especially living in Cali/NY) making 150k isn't a lot of money.
obviously the state should lower its burden on their population but one expects High Taxes from liberals
not from Republican controlled federal government

Software developer, there's no off season. We changed over to a new tech stack and that application is in a beta phase, so unless something is broken that we need to fix, we're hands off. Whereas we're usually doing regular improvements. But if they let us go they'd have to retrain (or rehigher us back hoping we didn't find another job). And yea, I remote.

kek
That's retarded. Hiring employees without sufficient demand for your product is retarded. You can make a massive profit by selling a handful of item,, but if that is the limit for the market than their is no point in expanding. You are better off increasing efficiency and than firing people.

I hire more people when I get more money because that allows me to acquire more clients, which allows me to acquire more money.

t. Business owner who started up in 2015 and now bill for over 6 medical facilities with 4 employees and looking to rapidly expand to around 10 or so employees so we can bring in hospitals etc.

>niggers need mo programs

"but if that is the limit for the market "
This applies to almost nothing. Unless you are hand building grand pianos or whatever you can also expand your base by investing your money back into your own company. Its quite clear you have absolutely no clue about business.

why doesnt america do what switzerland does and force a maximum wage?

Whats not true? Neither video exist.

crackas, have very little common sense...when will you learn common sense trumps smarts everytime

They taught him supply and demand in 2nd grade and he apparently didn't retain any (if any) nuances they may have tried to teach him later on.

And allowing people to keep more of their money will expand the market. Be it expanding business size or expanding money on the consumers pocket.

Plus the government cant stimulate the economy considering the only wealth is has is the wealth it confiscates from the public.

>You can make a massive profit by selling a handful of item,, but if that is the limit for the market than their is no point in expanding

have you ever been employed in your life, outside of a government position?

>No.

anyone that doesn't want the market to crash or have a decent sized correction sure as fuck hopes the tax plan gets passed...

>that allows me to acquire more clients
What happens when you run out of potential clients? Your talking like you have experience, but you've just gotten lucky and stumbled onto a booming industry. You haven't run into any limits so you are just assuming that they don't exist.

It applies to any real product. You sell an abstract product, and yet you act as if you know the intricacies of every market place.

>What happens when you run out of potential clients?

you lower your price attracting new clients

I ask you again, have you ever been employed? Are these concepts REALLY that difficult?

>run out of potential client
The world is a big place. For many industries 'running out of potential clients' just isn't feasible. 'The sky is the limit' as they would say.

Are you retarded? You can't sell shit that people don't want. If only 100 people want to buy the gigantic black dildos that you lovingly hand craft than there is no point hiring someone to make another 100 nigger dicks. You wont be able to sell them regardless of how much profit you could potentially make if you did.

>businesses should be taxed 4-5 times (unfair, payroll, sales tax, business tax, corporate taxes, etc etc) to pay for for jamal and shaqueefa's welfare, to send 38 BILLION to Israel in the name of "military aid" every year and money to the UN to feed Africa and all these other countries.

fixed it for you


Just take a moment out of your day and ask yourself why we are taxed SO MUCH from the time we wake up to we sleep, every fucking purchase, every bill is taxed, tax the businesses, tax the employee, tax tax tax. What is liberals fascination with stealing from people to get things they want?

I ask you a third time, have you ever been employed?

is that a gunblade?

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>black dildos
Of course you would say that. Anyways, obviously you would start to sell other types of dildos. Come on man. There is way more to this than "supply and demand". Sure, that may be the crux of it, but that's not all of it.

You seem to think that think that the secret to success in business is hiring an exponentially increasing amount of people to do an exponentially higher amount of work that magically materializes.

Newsflash, new ventures often take an up-front capital investment that companies usually don't have. Lower taxes means more freedom to experiment and potentially create jobs down the line when the venture is successful.

Does your dad also work for Nintendo?

>The world is a big place.
Oh, we are talking about international markets... Explain to me why I'm hiring American workers if I'm selling across the entire world.

How did you get your original clients if you weren't already as low as you could go? Oh yeah, its because you were in a booming industry and have been coasting off of the luck of the draw...

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>view?i=4c1_1487150822
It says its fake confirmed are you deliberately retarded ^

>How did you get your original clients if you weren't already as low as you could go?

By ADVERTISING your price, lower than your competitors.

I'm asking the fourth time now Leaf, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN EMPLOYED?

>Explain to me why I'm hiring American workers
There could be a multitude of reasons you would do this. Literally economics 101. I'm convinced you got to "supply and demand" and stopped learning anything further about economics.

It's funny cause I work for an international company and live in America. Ah, I guess the blacks are right - our life experiences can be very different.

>By ADVERTISING your price, lower than your competitors.
Proof against that you're in a booming industry. If those participating in it are able to fuck with prices to that extend than it's an in demand product. You simply can't make profit that way while in an established industry. You cut cost, that's it, you don't hire more people to make more shit... At best you pay someone to advertise your shit, but you usually don't hire someone to do that; you contract another company.

So you admit you've never been employed?

Alright - I take it back. You can't even grasp supply and demand.

Likely never got a job in high school - now he's in college being brainwashed.

I've worked many jobs; minimum wage bullshit jobs, construction jobs, and bulk logistics jobs...

Also not an argument.
You have yet to prove me wrong. You just keep saying that I don't know what I'm talking about... I get the feeling you're a drooling idiot whos gotten fat off an easy existence.

It's a debate - 'prove you wrong' isn't really among the options here - although I did lay out my argument, sorry you haven't been able to follow along.

>the government does anything worth giving them tax money for

The only thing close to real argument, but still implies that you have the production capability to create a significantly different product. Are you able to make purple nigger cocks with grape flavouring? No? Than how is your "new" product different enough to branch into untapped markets?

Since when there are so many commies on Sup Forums?

From what I can tell your argument has been:
>hire people
>make stuff
>sell it for more than it cost to make
>hire more people
>make more stuff than I originally made
>sell it all for more
>hire more people
>continue indefinitely without ever reaching a limit
My argument has been that you'll eventually reach a point where increasing efficiency and firing employees if a more effective means of increasing revenue. You'll eventually reach a point were there just isn't enough buyers for your products regardless of how many people you have making it...

I really don't care if it's legit or not, tea leaf

>hire people
>make stuff
>sell it for more than it cost to make
>hire more people
>make more stuff than I originally made
>sell it all for more
>hire more people
>continue indefinitely without ever reaching a limit

That basically the goal, yes. But again, nuances, sometimes like you said

>increasing efficiency and firing employees if(sic) a more effective means of increasing revenue

can be true as well.

As far as maxing out your buyers (demand), this would mostly only ever happen if something becomes obsolete to the point that no one buys it, otherwise, realistically, it probably won't ever happen. We have never been at a point where there were no emerging markets.

>where there were no emerging markets.
Again, this view is a product of the industry you find yourself in. You're sales are not restricted by real world conditions. You can sell your software to anyone in the world at the snap of a finger... There are industries that are limited geographically and no amount of employees would be able to increase there physical market reach. They simply don't have access to emerging markets because they are not in a booming industry like yours... There industry is simply "profitable"