>90% of media portrayal is positive
>psychedelics will open your "chakras"
>it will "redpill" you
>you won't be the same etc etc
there is a reason why the use of psychedelics was never recommended to anyone at any point of history. apart from a few times where it was tested to treat mental illnesses in some kind of reverse affect
the truth is, its extremely dangerous and the cases of people "going mad" are often hidden from public.
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>not recommended at any point in history
Actually user, I encourage you to do some research. It is a near cultural universal.
you can ask any doctor, even the finest of doctors .
no doctor in the world will recommend it, even those who discovered those drugs.
they often don't want to admit the potential dangers because it would put them in a bad position
>do some research. It is a near cultural universal.
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I love lsd, but I see how easy it is to break someone's mind while they're on it. However I use it to solve internal issues in my mind or to give my mind a break from reality and an adventure.
If you're a Brainlet I wouldn't use it
the natural plant-based drugs were part of our culture, but not the lab shit like acid or 2cb or ketamine
LSD comes from ergot you idiot, even mdma comes from sassafras
>the truth is, its extremely dangerous and the cases of people "going mad" are often hidden from public.
Top kek. I know so many people in my hometown who fell for the psychadelics meme.
Many of them had psychotic breaks and now they spend their days taking all of this crazy medication, one of them became full-blown skitzo after taking mushrooms back-to-back for a little while.
All of them act insane now. It's kind of sad, but not really, because they fell for the meme.
I tried psychadelics a few times, but I knew I was playing with fire and didn't want to go any further. Glad I didn't
venom is also animal based, poison is also plant based.
>Actually user, I encourage you to do some research. It is a near cultural universal.
Literally just savage sub-human indigenous cultures with "medicine doctors" doing stupid shit in the desert/jungle.
this lsd shrooms dmt (from plants) and saliva (dont know why) are all fine
there's a way to find god while you're alive
through a few of the psychedelics.
i'm not even making this shit up.
have a red pill. COMPED
Shit fucked me up bad. Took two years to find my brain again. Drug free 5 years now
I don't believe you but Lol what a bunch of brainlets, nothing of value was lost.
The drug I've seen produce the most brain damage is alcohol, it's disgusting I hate alcoholics as much as I hate meth heads and opium addicts
Yea but almost all the drugs these days are chemically manufactured and are not even close to natural
>greeks used cannabis
>native americans arnt even that bad
well, it depends how you look at it
it has been shown that psychosis have neurotoxic effect on the brain. but lsd in itself does not harm the brain.
alcohol does harm the brain (and the body) but it does not alter the brain chemistry much as lsd
Literally nothing wrong with tryptamines
Most synthetic drugs ARE close to "natural" in a structural sense. A chemist takes a blueprint that is known to work, and makes small modifications to it to modify the potency/safety/duration of the effect. This is one of the basic principals of pharmaceutics.
Make mdma without safer oil or lsd without the ergot alkalines or lysergic acid plant matter
LSD is fucking great. But don't take it unless you have sedatives or sleeping pills for when it's over. You're wrecked, anxious, and can't sleep. Worth experiencing desu.
Fucking ecstasy was a big thing at my school. And now everyones a brain dead socialist. Theyre melting peoples minds. Notice the area mostly damages is the prefrontal cortex. The part responsible for emotions.
What about the Elusian mysteries?
Or the entire set of the Americas and shamanism?
There's a lot of examples of ritual psychedelic use you're just an uneducated faggot. That being said, they're not for everyone especially weak minded individuals. It's only for those who can handle truly facing themselves. You are not yet ready.
Meh, LSD is a lot of fun.
Yeah Cannabis is nothing compared to these other psychadelics like DMT, acid, shrooms, TCI, ect. ect.
Alcohol makes people weak and retarded slowly over time, psychadelics fucks people up pretty quickly.
Forgot this
>muh doctors
no shit, it's almost as if doctors can't prescribe illegal stuff without losing their license
meanwhile shared a hut with a doctor in peru, going there every few months for his ayahuasca fix
I've take lsd many times, epic doses, mixed it with mdma and n20 and my brain is fine. However when ever I drink I have brain fuzz for a week and can't think at my full potential and for what? The shittiest drug experience.
Keep drinking anons, you weren't using those brain cells anyway!
But on a serious note, I don't think weak minded people should use lsd because it might break them
dmt just forces you to astral project
Quite false. Modern civilization has mostly adopted booze as it's "ritual," but mushrooms have been used historically throughout history by all races. It is on every continent, etc etc. Even Christianity.
Actually the only major religion I can think of that doesn't ring any bells with is Islam.
>we shouldn't eat vegetables because they are plants and some plants are poisonous so we shouldn't eat any plants.
Hate it for ya. Part of the problem is that it is such a regulated experience that it alters the experience, and that there are no credible people/literature/etc to help navigate that kind of headspace, or even help with dosing.
It was once a cultural universal that has been largely wiped clean from western society.
>n20
the fuck that
really? I've never done any large doses, but with the LSD I've had, the "comedown" is the best part,
LSD is physically harmless (way safer than alcohol) and nonaddictive. The only people for whom it isn't psychologically safe are schizos (pizzagate and gangstalking thread posters) as it can induce psychosis.
acid made me alt-right overnight.
thats what happens when you watch heil marches for hours while you're tripping.
Laughing gas
I was literally taught in a psyche class that drugs can make you schizo forever with no chance of reversal. The dangers are not hidden. I unfortunately partook in psychedelics and it fucked me up but made me a stronger person by the end of it.
i absolutely hate alcohol. and i have experienced drugs.
why do i issue this warning? not because i want to sell "safe drugs" to people. its because i know that some of the mental illnesses associated with those drugs never goes away. the amount of people that recover from schizophrenia or schizo-effective disorders are hardly 10%
>what is ordeal medicine
Where do you guys get your drugs? Deep web markets?
Really want to do psychedelics, should I start with shrooms? Then do actual LSD? (not street acid). Any dose advice or info graphs/referrals or general advice is appreciated
They probably mixed it with their prescription psychedelics or amphetamines. Mixing psychedelics with other drugs will fuck you up if you're retarded enough to do so.
you guys are ridiculous lol
i'm 26, taken LSD at least 100 times, ordered tanks of nitrous with friends, sampled some of the worlds finest MDMA and MDMA analogues, have like 5-6 coke parties a year, and drink almost every night.
will i make it to 27? who knows. but i've been completely functioning and here i am on Sup Forums amongst you autists.
enjoy the basement. these drugs don't harm or kill anyone but the stupid people who abuse them.
Abuse of psychadelics doesn't not "make you" schizo, it emphasizes existing schizophrenic tendencies. Most people with underlying schizotypal issues don't experience them until their early 20's - leaving quite a large window of time where they think they would be safe taking acid because druggies and artsy types hype it up and physicians do nothing to condemn the stuff.
If you abuse something it can hurt you? I'm shocked! MDMA is weird, I don't get how people get hooked to it but the first time it worked for me I felt like it unlocked my brain and put it into turbo mode, learning has become much easier and my memory stopped being shitty as well and it helped me be able to read people. It's like it cured some of my autism so I can never hate it but I still don't run to it
lsd is a pretty tame psychedelic imo.
pretty much non-toxic.
and definitely NOT FOR EVERYONE.
i think most intellectual or thinker type would enjoy it.
mushrooms are alot more challenging to master, and yes they can be controlled
and utilized to manifest any hallucination you'd like to or would not like to experience.
full control in that realm of consciousness
can allow god-tier revelations of space/time reality.
it's not for anyone or everyone.
also the azure psilocybins will hit god better than the cubensis imo
cubensis is more a drunkardly trippy trip.
azures and oj is astral projection be god for an hour dying on a couch. lol
shit sounds crazy..
but it'll happen to you too
if you enter.
An open mind is like a fortress with open gates and sleeping guards, anyone can enter and stay.
>the cases of people "going mad" are often hidden from public.
Are you retarded or something (((they))) shove the idea of it being bad for you in your face.
For me it's 12 hours of something beyond heaven, seeing the face of God n' sheeit, followed by sixteen hours of being a nervous wreck that can't eat or sleep; but then after 8 hours of shut eye I feel amazing. Acid is something I like to do two or three times a year; I feel like I digest and learn from each experience for a long time.
I wouldn't say they're the best part but all I needed my first time was a strong drink with ice and to chat with my best bud who was also coming down off his first trip
good times
Prescription psychotropics***
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what state do you live in? if you go to a "jamband" show you will find some acid. phish, disco biscuits, umphreys mcgee, moe., lotus, sts9, string cheese incident, dead and company, those bands and their cohorts.
this is the most common fallacy of it. it does awake those tendencies but since all humans have roughly the same brains your chances of getting psychosis is not 0%
Out of all of that I bet it's the coke and booze doing the most damage to your system
>doctors wont recommend a schedule 1 drug
Really accelerates the acorns.
start with dmt plus 7 grams of shrooms
but really start wiht low level shrooms
there's nothing wrong with having shit to aid the come down. i used to have no problem at all coming off of L but since hitting 25 i need help. i usually opt for 1mg of xanax, 20mg of melatonin, and 5-htp. maybe a beer or two and a piece of fruit or granola bar. you'll be good to go.
Suburbs of LA, so there's definitely that seen expecially at Coachella and such.
So you'd recommend getting it at one of those events? Not on the deep web markets? Test it to make sure it's legit?
Took mushrooms about 4 months ago and the next day I started having panic attacks followed by crashes into depression. I had down them once before without an issue. I ended up seeing a shrink and I’m on a few medications.
I’m not going to tell you not to do them. Just know that they can fuck you up. I’m pretty confident my brain will bounce back after a year or two. I had something similar happen after I had a panic attacks when I got wat too stoned. Basically if weed makes you anxious maybe consider staying away from mushrooms.
I know the idea of trials making you stronger when you use the shit but it’s much cleaner to reach the conclusions you do lucked up inside your own head through voluntary reflection. They can be good for you if you’re a thick skulled piece of shit like me who needs to have your eyes peeled open at all the bad shit you do, but more level headed people can reach where I got through a honest reflection on their lives.
I've had one bad acid trip and it was still tolerable. But I've seen at least two people go batshit on mushrooms so I have my reservations.
DMT is probably the safest to start with. Then shrooms. LSD depends on what you want out of it. It is good for internal conversation, but if you want visuals, go for shrooms.
Doses depends entirely on what you feel you can take. Start slowly if you don't feel too confident. Do a good amount of research before you delve in to the world of psychedelics.
without a doubt. psychedelics are not harmful to people who use them responsibly, mostly because they do not create the urge to take more like booze and coke.
If you're so focused on the here and now, that the idea of taking that stuff and making go crazy worries you; seriously, don't do it.
If it's been itching at the back of your head for more than 5-6 years, might not hurt to try. Stay indoors, have someone else there in case you flip out; or whatever. Chances are, you'll have a cool experience, maybe draw some pictures or write, and the craziest thing you do will be putting ranch dressing on a salad that has grapes in it. My God, the madness...
Thank you for explaining exactly what I said in a more specific way dipshit. Yeah it doesn’t just magically “make you schizo” in the same way that food doesn’t “stop you from being hungry.”
Normally, I would have called for Jewish shills shitting up the board, but looking at you Cletuses and Clydes in person at rallies actually makes me think you're fucking serious.
Jesus.
small world, i live in LA proper. if you go to see Trey Anastasio at the Wiltern on 10/31 you will get hooked up. wear something Sup Forums related and if i see you i'll provoke you and give you some real shit. not even kidding. just hang out on the corner of wilshire and western in a 4c related shirt.
fpbp
op is a fag
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moderation. Pure LSD is an incredibly potent drug. People taking it are usually too stupid to be doing so.
Then don't go around telling people that food doesn't make them not hungry? (it does)
Spreading misinformation is a bad thing, especially in an environment with easily impressed young people seeking validation.
what even are mystery religions? what's the kykeon cos i sure dont know.
>no doctor in the world will recommend it, even those who discovered those drugs.
well it's nothing weird since they are both dead already...(89 and 102yo)
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And you probably have no idea what is a difference between psyhedelics and psyhiatric medications...
go to google and write "the benefits of lsd" and see how much shit comes up.
not saying it does not have any benefits, but you would be stupid to not see how this kind of shit affects young people
Yep, sure will
It will open you up to possession by crazy lizard entities and demons and shit
But if you can beat them, you are pretty much a god
sassafras contains literally 0% MDMA retard
I have done LSD a few times. Every single time I have been laughing till I cried with friends.
The first time, we watched Monty Python and it was the best shit I had ever seen.
Second time was while it was snowing with 2 of my best friends, and everything was just amazing.
Never had a bad experience with it
Shrooms just made me throw up and feel bad for the rest of the day
>mental illnesses
A few things to consider:
most people get low quality drugs
most people don't do their research and get a rough idea of what they are getting themselves into
very few have any understanding of dosage
very few know what set and setting is, and how much this actually should be emphasised to get a safe and rewarding trip
>lizard entities
>demons
Exhibit A: the sort of person who actually *will* go crazy on acid. If you unironically believe in reptilians, avoid psychedelics.
>Being this DEA
I'm inland empire area, small world. I might take a pass though sorry bro. Really appreciate the offer, I guess I just wanna air on the side of caution.
>that flag
>that post
who the fuck even ARE you??!
Chemfag here. Yes, "that one".
Looked through the thread...
>DEAR FUCK
Good night.
PS: Stop being wrong about things. You might get sued for false advertising.
Some people take LSD and invent fucking iPhones
LSD and Mushrooms are fine if you're a normal person. Most of the heavier acid users I know aren't even hippies. A lot of people that take acid fucking hate wooks.
Psychedelics open one up to an appreciation of natural law. You see how beautiful and almost perfect the world is at times (if you're in nature for example). Sure there's an aspect of kindness but the only reason it's associated with liberalism is because the drugs can make you somewhat impressionable. If you take acid fully believing it will "open your chakras" or "change you into a better person" then you can likely convince yourself that happened.
Most people I know who've taken acid don't give a fuck about chakras or any of that bullshit. They do it to heighten reality
>moop da woop muhfugga bix nood noises
Shrimps are a much more deep experience than acid and I personally far prefer shroom trip
But taking them absolutely sucks. Like dog feet and shit, with a crunchy texture that is also somehow slimy
Reptilian overlords is a meme for a reason
if you were to trip with me i would show them to you ;)
It's easily chalked up my man, recreational drugs have massive effects on intercourse.
There's a reason alot of the gay culture revolves around drug use, drugs change sexual intercourse entirely and there are a plethora of amphetamines, hallucinogens, or opiates that release higher endorphins than sex and usually cause erectile dysfunction while doing so, hence the sheer increase in sex drive causes people to do weird shit like cuckoldry, getting fucked in the ass, etcetera.
The impact drugs have had on modern sexuality is massive, look at the gay culture and how intertwined it is with shit like poppers or whippits, drugs and sex is extremely dangerous practically the pandoras box of decadence.
MDMA is not a psychedelic. MDMA is nothing like LSD or Mushrooms. I fully support banning and discouraging MDMA use. It's highly neurotoxic. LSD and Psilocybin are not though
As far as that pic, understand that nothing exists entirely on its own except raw information. We have no idea what the raw information level of this universe is, might be planck length or it might be quintillions of times smaller than that.
So to say the mind has properties that matter doesn't isn't quite right. The mind has properties that only arrise from certain arrangements of matter. The same can be said of computers. They deal in symbolic logic at increasingly higher levels, moving around variables which represent objects which represents functions which represent actual changes in matter. That is the complex top down version. The bottom up version is more accurate and more simple: all is made of information, information made intelligent can become a mind. Computers have all the symbolism and hard logic in place, but will remain "dead" until the soft logic is soft enough to encompass general modeling of arbitrary scale and complexity. The human mind does this except has an upper limit which is the physical matter it is composed of.
TL; DR pic has correct conclusion but incorrect reasoning
just go to music festivals or drug band concerts
sassafras roots contain safrole oil which contains mdma, but most mdma is extracted from the camphor tree
this. If anyone is trying to be a subversive kike it is OP
Daily reminder that Ernst Jünger, one of the pinnacles of white culture and creativity, took LSD and mescaline fairly regularly.
If you guys want a real redpill ask yourself why black people don't like LSD. Why is psychedelic use mostly found among the white and asian population with occasional mexicans or mulattoes here and there?
Same reason crime rates are the way they are. More intelligent people get more out of psychedelics. If you're a sub 100 IQ you probably shouldn't take them and you won't have a good time
go ahead, go to your local mental health center and ask the doctors how many people admission because of drug use.
those numbers never come out because of medical confidentiality
I suddenly want to trip and get Bogpilled.
Actually, food satiates you by providing your body with nutrients and electrolytes needed to operate itself :^)
You're projecting your own mental instability onto others user.
mdma makes you feel like you're the director of existence which is true at the end of the day. It eliminates any doubts or insecurities which you shouldn't have anyways but you are right it is neurotoxic.
mushrooms have always been fun but they give me anxiety too, I never became fully comfortable on medium to large doses
fpbp.
People have been taking magic mushrooms for ages. There is nothing degenerate about doping for different mental states, and contrary to the jewish media claims, most psychedelics do not have any long term effects. Jesus Christ is everyone on this board a home-schooled faggot with no lofe experience? No wonder you are all so angry and pathetic.