Manchild general

What has caused the modern manchild epidemic?

Videogames?
Media pandering to nostalgia?
Disenfranchised males?

How do we stop this?

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vidyas, anime, porn, and casual sex desu

Single motherhood. Boys raised by proper father figures wouldn't end up as Neets

Women refuse to be good wives. What is a man going to do if he can't find a wife? We stop it by making divorces fair or illegal.

What you do in your time doesn't matter, having actual values you adhere to that don't result in communism or destroying everything man has built is what is important.

The people who would be classified as manchildren (if you can even define that term without it being a coverall for "thing women dont like") were not born in any sort of time frame to be responsible for the world right now.

Instead they were born into a government system that did nothing but brainwash them and parents who were more than happy to let it happen because they're getting their pensions regardless of how fucked their grandchildren are.

Gas the boomers, the kikes and the communists user.

fatherless boys
women in the workplace

Immigration and the progressive state.

Nah, it's all a "consumer society". In my poor country, government do not pay benefits, so to survive you need to work hard and there is simply no time for such nonsense. In developed countries, the state should ridicule such things and people will change!

media. women are literally childlike in their beliefs and opinions and mental development. they can act retarded their entire lives, but if a man is enjoying anything they disagree with, the man is the problem and all media will support it. theres a reason 90% of ads target women, even for mundane daily products every one uses. because they are retarded and will spend money on shiny things that are advertised at them without thought. same applies for marxist shit like dividing the genders and turning on men.

modern "liberalism"

why does this imply women need men?

cmon ladies, fish-bicycle !
you dont need men remember?

STRONG AND INDEPENDENT YEAH !!

The men are believing the progressive society that's telling them that their time is over and that their traditional roles are outdated.

However, contrary to the belief of feminists and the left, this does not make many men submissive beta providers. It makes them something even worse, losers who rather drop out of mainstream society and expectations pressed on them. They have no strong families or fulfilling careers waiting for them as a reward of just living the life anymore, so why do anything at all?

Most women are fat fucks

as long as the males are supporting themselves, what does it matter to the female?

Prosperity and nihilism. If you never had to work until after college and see no need for responsibility and strength/resilience/temperance, then it's easy to view pleasure and happiness as sole goal of out pointless (xD) human existence. I suspect that many of the young leftists out there hang on to their beliefs so militantly, simply because it gives them something to strive for beyond their own pleasure, something that fills this nihilistic void.

Going to die anyway so nothing really matters. That means no kids and I'm not really interested in fancy things or a big house (for no family) so no need of a high paying job. Couple that with no desire for a wife so need to spend money there and I can basically get by in life satisfying by base urges and working a stress free, low demand job. I'm essentially on holiday all year, just a slow lazy fizzle to the grave.

/comfy/

Oy vey not enough dumb goyim are taking out my high interest loans! We have to do something about this!

>pedohysteria (14-16 now equals 4-6)
>feminism (cant say a word to a cunt)
>islam is peacefull and you are not
>nignog is a king and you are not
>cant defednd yourself (bin that knife or simple punch not allowed; duels? what is it?)
>goverment pit bulls can do everything and you better look to the ground with hands up or you'll be "served and protected"
>payed larpers at every corner on the internet
>ABC and DEF watching you and can do everything to you cause nobody knows a thing about their actions right now
Why even leave or live?
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> please take out more loans!
> please spend all your money on shit
> please RENT
> pleeeease be a wagecuck
you either work for yourself or you don't work at all and live on betabux
the 9-5 drones who are basically modern day peasants, can fuck off

TV is mass brainwashing people. I hadn't watched tv in 10 years, and stared at it for awhile at work a year ago. The jew tricks are everywhere. Black male, white female in every goddamn commercial, "gots to save duh muslims drowing at sea" in the news, and just plain bullshit that doesn't corespond with how the average norwegian thinks. Maybe the assholes from Oslo think that way, but there is no way in hell that the rest does.

You describe symptoms. The cause is clearly that women are completely useless now.

They are total sluts which makes them never compatible for raising children. By the time they're "ready" to settle down (about 30) it's about 10 years or more too late for any normal bloke to consider doing it.

Now on the subject of sluts. If a woman has had no prior sexual partners there's a greater than 95% chance she will be loyal. This drops to 85% if she's had one prior and by 7 it's more likely than not that she will cheat during marriage.

Women work which means the house is constantly in disrepair and the man has nothing good to return home to when a working women is around.

Long story short: Women have made themselves useless and lash out at men that literally couldn't give a fuck if they exist or not. Pussy is cheap and if they're not going to be a young obedient wife then why not pay per use and up front instead of paying far beyond it’s value afterwards in a divorce?

Lots of reasons.

A changing job market with less emphasis on physical tasks and more emphasis on service. Women tend to thrive in service sector jobs as they prefer working with people as opposed to things, and those physical jobs that remain tend to be taken by immigrants (legal and illegal) because they're cheaper than Americans. If you can't find a secure, reasonably well-paying job you have a harder time attracting a woman and starting a family. Shitty part-time work means you can't afford decent living conditions, expensive hobbies, good food, or a girlfriend. So you turn to cheap pleasures to distract you from your crappy dead-end life.

Even if you do have a decent job it's still harder to take the next step to establishing a traditional family structure, i.e., finding a long-term mate. Since women earn just as much as men and have an easier time finding work they don't have the same economic incentives as they once had for settling down. They don't have the same emotional incentives either due to the massive changes in the dating market since the sexual revolution. No need to go all "roasties REEEEEEEEEEEE", but social changes in the past ~30 years (accelerated greatly in the last 10) have brought us to the point where men and women look at each other and don't see how they could benefit of forming relationships. Forms a kind of positive feedback loop too, as a man's rational reaction to being lonely and underemployed (escapism) makes them less attractive to women.

Fatherlessness is also related. Women, having economic and sexual freedom, tend to prefer brief flings with top 20% men to stable relationships with bottom 80% men. Since there aren't enough top 20% men to go around, most women are not going to form stable relationships with them regardless of what the goals of the men are. But a stable relationship is not required to conceive a child, just to raise one properly. So inevitably some women get knocked up and Chad moves on because he has a whole harem of pussy to choose from and no good reason to settle. Economics is a factor here too, but only insofar as it might inhibit the more intelligent women from having kids. Society's idiots don't really care if they can't afford a kid.

That the market responds to this phenomenon by producing more vidya and nostalgia is a completely secondary effect. I think the best possible policy changes that could be made would be related to the job market. If a wage is the market price of human labor, then if we want that price to increase then the scarcity of human labor must increase. Simplest way to do this is to enforce existing laws by deporting illegals and enforcing our immigration laws. Build the wall. Companies should not be able to use their influence on politicians to circumvent our laws and drive down wages for their own profit. This also applies to the H1B program, which must end. Not be reduced, not be limited, but end. End. There is no repeat no scarcity of tech employees in the United States. There is only a scarcity of companies willing to pay the market price for tech sector labor. Another useful policy change would be to again, enforce existing laws and abolish the preferential hiring of women simply due to their gender. Improve the job market for men and this problem will begin to solve itself.

video games = easy action/reward device = addiction

being an adult is no longer respectfull, back then kids only wanted one thing, becoming adults. now everybody is respected and worshipped, teenage celebrities, etc... no point in growing up.

wtf is a 9-5

Good times create weak men.

Currently we are teetering on the edge of the bad times, it will take just one happening big enough to finally push us over the edge.

Society is already in many ways past the rubicon, unless radical extreme changes are made in how western society conducts itself, your not going to be able to save this sinking ship.

so why invest in a future this bleak?

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redpilling gently

Has there ever been a reversal to good times by weak men?

no

>Talking about how to fix the "manchild" problem on fucking Sup Forums

the native americans?

turbo consuming culture and women being eay too empowered by laws. Women almost has a complete stranglehold on men atleast on civilized countries. Women choose you wheter you like it or not. Now , you can go out your way to impress them and create an illusion but in the end of the day the choice rests with them and anything else is rape. Also given the fact that these days fathers overspoil their daughters into them
being entitled princesses that demand the superficial attention they crave. In conclusion you end up with women who can't be satisfied and men who can never catch up to otherwordly desires of women be it financially , politically or socially.

>What has caused the modern manchild epidemic?
Dick size

Rollin

What about them?

they're not fairing any better then anybody else, in fact white people are actually on the same path to share in the same fate.

The alternative being terrible by comparison.

awn I wanted elizabeth :(

There isn't one outside of the Sup Forums/reddit userbase.

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Lack of incentive to contribute to society. You have a generation of young men who are completely disenfranchised with the current state of western society and would rather wait for it to collapse than engage with it. Marriage as an institution has become dysfunctional and is a rigged game from the start, so why bother marrying a girl and start a family when she can completely fuck you up even if you do everything correctly?

sauce

>all the manchildren blaming women
Women do not stop you from getting an education, a job, and building wealth. Having resources gives you independence and freedom, there's not a single reason to not want it. If you lack any of this, then it's because you're lazy. Keep in mind that "manchildren" to me are men with no job or a low skilled job, who have little or no savings, and still lives with his parents. If you have an OK job, some savings, and live in your own place, but spend some of your money on video games and anime figurines, then you're not a manchild.

I wonder who keeps making these threads. Boomers I bet.

ahah you gonna steal bikes together

>manchild epidemic?
We stopped conquering and creating shit. Sure some people get to create or destroy shit but most of us are at best taking orders from others instead of forging our own destinies.

It may interest you to know that different countries have different job markets and economic conditions.

fokken leaf

If a man can fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he won't buy a house. We won't do it if we can fuck some roastie from CL or tinder in our mom's basement either

Im sure history was full of manchildren too, there's just not many documents of them because they failed to reproduce. No one lived to tell their boring story.

i work with a guy who spent 5 years to get his engineering degree. i'm a high school dropout. i have 4 white kids, a white wife, a dog, 2 houses, 2 cars, etc. he has a house, a wife who is 25 years older than him, and he spends his free time gaming and watching cartoons.

i don't know what's causing the whole manchild thing. my guess is that it's a combination of environment and circumstance. consider that our childhood pursuits are much better preserved now than years before, and that they're becoming much more entertaining than years before. it's easier and more fun for some fat nerd to marathon a season of naruto than to go outside and nostalgically bat around a hoop with a stick.

>as long as the males are supporting themselves, what does it matter to the female?

Women hate fun

Everyone plays video games. Legacy media is dying so it targets poor/stupid viewers who haven't switched away. Any man with half a brain and some patience can make more money than a woman in business.

My dear native land Finland actually has it's own word old word for manchildren, "peräkammarinpoika" which translates to "boy of the (furthest) back bedroom". It means unmarried and socially inept adult male who lives at his parent's house, mostly working as a helper of his parents in the daily rural chore to justify his existence.

there is a book called "a confederacy of dunces" that perfectly describes the modern euphoric gentleman. it was written in 1980. it's a decent read.

$$$ , Agree... How do we turn the battle to our favor ?.....xoxo

>being strong, masculine, reliable, a provide is "toxic masculinty" now
>manly intersts, hobbies, culture, and male bonding is toxic now
>cult of weakness pervades society, everyone aspires to be a unique and fragile, easily triggered snowflake or a limpwristed faggot consantly crying about being a victim of opression
>even people who refuse this marxist shit can easily just become a jaded e-outcast and gorge themselves on easily available entertainment, fake real life progression and achivements with rankings and cheevos to give an illusiion of accomplishment


Unless youre a 10/10 chad, there is no fulfilling place for men in society.

there is a lack of greater purpose. The mystery and adventure to life has been destroyed. men have been domesticated and shamed into a meaningless existence. Very few still have the opportunity to live a life worth living. The future is a dying ember, turning to ash.

Actually, they do, it's a mixed bag desu. The education they are more obedient which is beneficial to their learning abilities. With hypersexuality being the norm males are further distracted. A job no longer can support a family for a segment of the population that once it could. Because of women in the workplace increases the job pool while decreasing wages. Tit bonus for physical demands as well as the social preference of most people for more compliant and ascetically pleasing also is a factor. Wealth because of the legal system that was set up to work in a time when all of these factors were not in play have made losing wealth a certainty for many. The rest is true. Too much stick, not enough carrot.

>Videogames?
>Media pandering to nostalgia?
>Disenfranchised males?
Add casual fucking and the destruction of morality.

War would fix it.

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It's probably going to get worse. Much worse.
And no, it's not men's fault.
It's nature.

Videogames are fun
Women are not

working from 9AM to 5PM. Come on, user. It's not rocket science

You are doing it wrong then.

this user knows what's up

Yep, so we need to stop socialism and fast. Because of that gasoline on a tire fire.

Fixed
>women hate when men have fun

>wrinkles at the bottom of her pant legs
would not bang.

Not quite. These are symptoms, not the problem.

Here's the problem: Men need a mission in life. But it can't be just any old thing - it has to be something that connects them to a larger whole.

Our countries are basically nothing but meaningless bureaucracies anymore. So service to country can't be a meaningful mission. Christianity, as a religion, is 99 percent cucked, and constantly shits on men (it's true, there's a while weird thing where social conservatives are allies of feminist man-haters.) So that's not going to serve. In the past, at the very least, family could serve as a mission for a man. But women are now hypergamous sluts for the most part, and the state exists to cater to their whims, including destroying men who they regret having sex with by expanding the definition of 'rape' to include 'sex you regret.' If you find a women who's TOLERABLE and won't use the state to destroy you, you're one of the lucky ones - let alone finding an actual good woman.

So what do men, with no path to follow and no mission, retreat to? Video games - war-simulators that allow them to imagine some higher calling.

Anime - the one form of media left where cute, innocent, but sexy girls aren't seen as 'problematic' - basically the one last form of media that doesn't view male sexuality as inherently shameful.

Porn, to provide a pale shadow of what sex can provide - better than nothing.

And casual sex? Actually, people in general are having less sex than ever before - and this will continue, as the gender wars make any interaction between men and women inherently more fraught and dangerous (generally for the man.)

There are a bunch of them hear why Not?
What do?

You're a pro then.

The only man child I know is a guy who has some kind of undiagnosed autism. He ain't right in the head, but could have gotten married if he didn't think he merited a 10/10 virgin blonde cheerleader. He literally kept shooting waaaaaaay out of his league, then gave up on finding anybody. He goes to work, comes home to his mom, and plays video games until he goes to bed. I'd lose my mind living like that, but he seems happy.

There is no single dominant factor, more just that the overall culture no longer (through many means, some overt, others subvert) puts no pressure on men to be men, and when there is no necessity placed upon people, most will choose the easier rout, and being a perpetual child is easy and comforting.

Pretty much this. My manchildness stems from the fact that it's so difficult to OWN anything in the US. I have a nice house, a decent car, a good job making ~80k annually but I don't really feel like I "own" any of my stuff. I feel like my house belongs to the bank not to me, my car belongs to the dealership, etc because I still owe money on it. I know I work to have these nice things but it doesn't feel like mine. My dad has a classic car and told me he bought it brand new at the age of 19 with a general labor job after saving for not even a year. I feel like I work alot for shekelstein bank and kikeburg autosales. So I try to fill that void of true ownership with videogames and drinking.

Single motherhood is in itself a symptom of the absence of men, the weakening of masculinity in a culture, and its feminisation. This adds to the problem, but it is really quite far down the line.

That and this generation of sons being told they are not loved because their dad didn't molest them is a put-off. Thanks, Critical-theory.

GO AWAY, BATIN

American globalism. Smartphones, video games, McDonald's, coca cola, rock n' roll, hollywood garbage, netflix etc.

This is clearly a more essential problem; when necessity is removed most people simply will not bother with the trials and difficulties of properly growing up and taking responsibility for yourself and others.

Methinks too many of the "single mothers" answers are people blaming their own circumstances for their lack manhood.

manchild's dont have casual sex they fap to porn

This too. We don't value the aspects of masculinity as a culture either, partly because hedonism and the pursuit of self-indulgent pleasure/happiness is antithetical to the male ideal.

Who cares? Not the roasties, they are already programmed by (((them))) to pick immigrants as mates.

No Responsibilty
System is now working against you just for being a Man
No Reward or Woman without extreme effort
>The only winning move is not to play

Jew media control.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

White Genocide is real - In their own words
>liveleak.com/view?i=aec_1508296335

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
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The Holocaust:
>youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8

In that pic->
>The roastie wants to go shopping for drapes
>She demands the man go with
>The man says
>"Fuck you bitch it's my day off and I'm going to play vidya. Go waste my money by yourself."

Because it is a 50-50 but mothers just fucking can't get it.

Nothing more needs to be said here. /thread

Maybe if women didn’t have extremely high standards then I would be more inclined to give a shit
Why don’t women ask men out for once

I unironically propose Islam as a solution for manchildren and outcasts.

t. convert

...

>thinking women are the fundamental cause of any significant shift
>deluding yourself that women aren't sluts because they are fundamentally conformist

Men drive history, not women.

>xoxo
What the fuck are you doing on my imageboard?
Get out.

single mothers don't exist in the west, their husbands are the state. The sooner the benefits are cut off and the social stigma returns the better. There'd be a return to patriarchy, providing purpose to their lives, and authority over their family. Instead of just being serialized pay pig number 21545487 for the government. Oh and get women out of the workforce too.
... or we could just have a massive war or something. Lets do that

>tfw 34
>tfw have grown away from gaming in the last 3-4 years even though I have tried to keep my interest
>tfw last game that actually engaged me was Witcher 3

For the past 8 years I have grown toward shooting at the range and becoming heavily into gun culture. I am still single but that's another issue altogether.

there are levels of existence we are prepared to accept. Your ancestors weep for you user.

This. You can't be an alpha familyman if you aren't allowed to be a man in the first place.

>The future is a dying ember, turning to ash.

Nah, fuck that, let's just import millions and millions of arabs instead. What could possibly go wrong!

Nice post user. I'd say this gets to the nub of it a lot better than most of this thread. Men need a higher ideal to strive for in life, and that's been removed by the modern live and let live consumer "paradise"

Just look at the fanaticism with which people follow sports today--another example of externalizing these drives and living them out vicariously.

This is, unironically, the female solution.

At some point in your dad's life, there was no internet.It was late so nothing was open. Nobody else was awake to talk to. TV was just broadcasting the test pattern and he had already read every book on his bookshelf. So he did something constructive with his time until he was ready to sleep and it felt good.

Even as a child, I was a bit of a loner, so I had moments like that; where there was nothing to do. So I wrote short stories, or drew pictures, etc.

Civilization was made by men who were bored with the status quo.
We're so over-stimulated these days that it's become an addiction. We are afraid of what happens when the stimulation ends. From the moment we wake up to the moment we go to sleep we are stimulating ourselves with electronic devices now. We fear nothing more today than we fear boredom.

It still wouldn't work, but wouldn't this be interesting?
>Work hard, keep half, pay no taxes
>No work, free stuff, pay taxes

Sup Forums and white nationalism