Capitalism is slavery

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Every "Bad" thing about capitalism has been our inept and corrupt government placing restrictions on it.

Whose idea was it to form governments anyway? The most corrupt institutions on earth.

that or Jews

>be poor
>work hard
>produce something of value
>sell it
>be rich

meanwhile in communism, if your parents arent government officials or military officers then you are absolutely FUCKED

Why do people immediately assume that the only alternative to capitalism is communism or socialism? W can create a new system altogether,

sure because the single-mom who has to work 3 jobs to keep her children from going to sleep hungry is poor because she's too lazy.

Meanwhile, the billionaire CEO makes 10,000 times the hourly wage of one of his workers because he's working 10,000 times harder than them

I believe that is true of Monopolies, so if monopolies are bad then why would the government run monopoly be any better if anything it would be worse, of course I'm assuming this person is a socialist/communist.

Threadly reminder that capitalists are the biggest statist cucks of all. The "market" is a standardized system of trade and constant government intervention is required to keep the various markets through which modern society conducts trades in existence.

Except unlike commies capitalists think the Market is free and could exist free of state intervention. At least commies know the government is fucking around constantly.

>the under privileged classes have no means to escape the cycle of poverty propagated by capitalism.

Then how are the majority of new millionaires STILL coming out of the middle and working class?

Why are people STILL retiring with millions in assets after working an average job for thirty years?

Where are your 'real facts' to go along with that 'real narrative'?

>capitalism made nepotism and corruption a thing!

but capitalism made the divide between rich and poor smaller, since the poor were allowed to own land if they could pay for it

lefties need to read history

He didn't say she was lazy, you dumb fuck. He said she could rise out of poverty with hard work.

>capitalists are the biggest statist cucks of all

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Life is slavery, get used to it

She is poor because she is stupid. Why did she get knocked up if she cannot afford children?

If his workers are so valuable why don't they demand better compensation?

>I READ ATLAS SHRUGS SO I'M SMART
The post.

Socialism/communism has even more corruption and no social lifts - since the private enterprise is banned/severely limited, hard work is not rewarded and excellence is suppressed under pretense of equality.
Which ultimately leads to the ineffective economy and universally low level of life

Proof: decades of all soviet/communist countries miserable existence and their inevitable fall and reformation and change to capitalism (ie China).

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>hurr look at this super scientific infographic.

>implying i'm a capitalist

Also I'm not defending communism either. Capitalism vs. Communism is a false dichotomy.
Nor do I believe the government should spoonfeed weak people.

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Yes it is.

It's literally the opposite. Nepotism, corruption, and privileged classes are more rampant in communistic systems. It's inevitable.

So this is the power of capitalism...

so what's the difference between that and what I said?
You're saying people aren't poor because they're not working hard enough.
I'm saying that this idea has nothing to with the real life because people who work 3 jobs have to worry for their livelihood while the people who just move digital money around in complicated ways have a living standard many orders of magnitude better.

It's real easy to fix this problem, you kill the corrupt people.

are poor*

Again, where is communism coming from? Must there be competition among human beings? Let's create a system that favors all.

He's a commie leaf upon inspection. Ignore and prepare for the day of the rake. It's soon.

>the kids from the under privileged classes have no means to escape the cycle

haha your kinda wrong tho because im a millionaire now

i was poor but NOT a subhuman ethnic so i guess that doesn't count tho right

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>Kids have no way of getting up blah blah blah
Totally bullshit

>If his workers are so valuable why don't they demand better compensation?

are you kidding? Because of bare job insecurity. Thanks to neoliberal globalisation, workers all over the world are now in competition with each other. That means an ordinary Canadian worker is in competition with super-exploited workers from third-world countries. And corporations can move - workers on the other hand are essentially stuck.

With that constant threat, workers aren't going to demand higher wages, unionize or better working conditions, since the huge megacorporation can at any moment let all of them go by moving to another country where workers have no rights.

Assuming that's actually store shelves during a weather event etc.... here's the easy response.

That's the effect of Price Gouging Laws.

Capitalists evaluate risk/reward. When a vendor can only make a small margin on goods when the risk is so high (shipping issues/product destruction).

If you want to see shelves not empty... get rid of price gouging laws.

Mark Cuban. /thread.

Yea, because communism and socialism doesn't have a history of concentrating nepotism/connected people's power.

Jesus, brain babies everywhere that see capitalism this way.

You just assume I'm a communist and give a fuck. You are a pathetic pea-brained moron who can't see the world beyond the umbrella of human civilization. You see a square region of low-pile astroturf and you think, "Nature". And you just go through the supermarket throwing things in your cart never bothering to imagine, with any degree of accuracy, where those items came from.

Because they can't demand anything. Because they can't get the machines, place of business, or pay co workers themselves.

This is extremely untrue. I grew up impoverished, 2nd generation immigrant ghetto life food stamps when it was literally still a booklet with coupons, eating rice and eggs everyday and cereal because too poor to buy anything else. Parents worked hard to scrape by. Literally have no connections of any sort. Still went to school and worked hard everyday. Now living decently owning multiple businesses and in process of opening many more. I don't think if I was back from ancestral homeland I would even be a business owner or let alone having income of top 5% in this country. Capitalism is the only system where you can go from rags to riches by working hard and working smart. Go to your socialist centric countries in Europe or Asia, you can never be your own boss, never succeed more than being a well paid employee because you have to have family connections to get anything. The only problem in our capitalism system is the government putting roadblocks and playing favoritism. (Jews).

You certainly are projecting an awful lot of notions onto someone you know nothing about. Cool it with the impotent aggression and ad homs and you might get somewhere.

>You just assume I'm a communist and give a fuck.

funny, because you assumed i was a capitalist earlier!

>Must there be competition among human beings
yes

>Let's create a system that favors all.
no

forgot to add. How can someone compare to a family that has been here 3 generations or more that have built wealth and passed it along. A third generation kid that starts with a home, connections to colleges via parents, or inherits a business or money has no effect on whether an immigrant kid or a kid from the ghetto will succeed in life or not. Sometimes your born into a shitty situation but only you are responsible for getting yourself out of and all the tools are there. And let's be honest some people are just too stupid to get out of poverty. That's why there is a working class and a owner class. There can never be true equality. You can give an idiot $1m and they'll lose it all. You can give it to a smart kid and they'll make it into $10m in a few years. People are responsible for their own choices. If you're going to have kids at 20. Good luck. If you think getting a BMW is more important than using that money to invest into yourself now. Then good luck. Capitalism is cruel to stupidity

would couldn't they? CEOs aren't higher beings, they're just as human as the workers. Not only are there extremely detailed proposals for a more democratic economic system (look up "participatory economics" for example), but those units already exist in the US on a smaller scale in the form of worker cooperatives.

I get that the masters of mankind want precisely this kind of paralysis where the population thinks that they require the ruling class for survival and are doomed without them. But civilizing effects have always required that ordinary citizens overcome this amnesia and start to realize their own power.

>Literally have no connections of any sort. Still went to school and worked hard everyday. Now living decently owning multiple businesses

Just playing devil's advocate here but if you worked hard and performed well in school in a communist country like the ussr or communist china, you would be rewarded with a better standard of living as well and get recruited into the upper tiers of their society.

Successful people find ways to become successful even in oppressive societies.

To give a concrete example Yeltsin came from a working poor background but he worked hard, got an education, became a chief engineer, and later became the president of Russia after the USSR collapsed.

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Indeed it is. This is why i keep voting for the communist party on every election. They want to take us out of EU, NATO and ban all the american filth from society. It will be amazing! Finally people will stop eating McDonald's and drinking coke which transforms people into fags and makes them want to become the opposite gender.

>ordinary worker
I work in software development and I can tell you that nothing a third world creates even comes close to a western educated worker. Unless you are talking about an unskilled laborer that moves a box from one conveyor belt to another, that certainly wouldn't be an ordinary worker since a child or mentally retarded person could perform that task.
Also what makes you think third worlders are exploited? When bleeding hearts force companies to take down over seas factories do you know what happens to their community? They are forced to become criminals and prostitutes.

If a worker can't demand higher wage then it means they aren't valuable and need to get around to improving themselves ie. stop being lazy.

we need to adopt Georgist economic policies which tax down monopoly based on land use

if only there was a third position...

>Also what makes you think third worlders are exploited?
because they can buy soda cheaper than water, and we claim their water as a corporate recourse, to make soda, so they end up drinking out of the sewer and dying

there you are then

>freedom is slavery

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>s-statist!

I guess successful people end up successful no matter where they are. But I can say that with some familiarity. Today in Russia , if you don't have that family connection it's very difficult for the average person to move up socially or economically. Even under-qualified people are chosen over highly qualified because of nepotism. And plus Yeltsin became president when Russian federation started moving away from communism into a more captialistic-plutocracy system.

Capitalism can't exist without the state, and hasn't, since it's inception in the industrial revolution. That's why your post is a load of baloney. Capitalism and the state are just different sides of the same coin.

“The well connected” is a metaphor for the eternal jew I hadn’t heard of yet.

>I guess successful people end up successful no matter where they are.
Take a banker from the Wall Street and put him in a desert or a jungle and he's dead within the day.

Should it then be replaced with a system that's corruption institutionalized by design?

False dichotomy.

>Freedom allows white people to rule the world

Hear hear! Two cheeks on the same arse.

>Jews
Shut up Muhammad, and go read up on Chile.

>government officials or military officers
Literally 95% jews in the soviet union

communism = all goys are equal cattle that are not allowed to own property or gain power

non-goys are commissars eating caviar

communism is literally the tool used to bring talmud prophesies to life

Rare

>Shut up Muhammad, and go read up on Chile.
You the country where the state completely changed the economy after a dictatorship came to power backed by the usa?
You dumb.

The point I was trying to make was that there are opportunities to move up in almost any functioning society.

-If you were living in say Imperial China, studied hard, and performed well enough on the Imperial exams, you could move very high up in society.

-There are also several examples of Roman emperors who came from humble backgrounds: abroadintheyard.com/slave-to-emperor-rises-to-power-humble-beginnings/

-If you were born in the Ottoman empire, you could get drafted as a Janissary and become second in command to the sultan.

-The easiest way to move up in western society is to get a degree from a prestigious university and make connections with other people.

The ability to rise above your station is not unique to capitalism or to western societies in general.

>Today in Russia , if you don't have that family connection it's very difficult for the average person to move up socially or economically. Even under-qualified people are chosen over highly qualified because of nepotism.

Nepotism is a fact of life but this can be used to your advantage provided you're socially savvy. It's obvious just by watching Yeltsin that he's very charismatic and good with people, and this likely played a big role in how he moved up from his humble backgrounds.

You need to acquire capital or have a proven track record to buy the things.

But more importantly. You have to have the drive and knowledge to put all the pieces of the puzzles together.

I've found that many don't understand the risk and effort it takes to start a business. Most are happy to show up and do a job and go home.

It's a lot of work. NOT JUST MONEY.

>famous athletes and world famous musicians are poor and oppressed
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Bottom line. There is a small pool of people willing to take those risks, acquire the knowledge, and have the work ethic and IQ to pull off running a business. It's why whenever the faggotry that is democratic economic systems are attempted at a micro or macro scale... shit goes tits up.

>It has favoured the well-connected and the wealthy at the expense of the ordinary folks
What's every system ever? I don't know why these retards see it only in capitalism.

Take most people into the jungle or desert and they would meet the same fate.

But Marx Says Something Different

look at every country which has attempted any form of marxism and tell me who were in power and who weren't

>implying that the feudal system that proceeded capitalism provided more opportunity.

LOL

Everything bad about capitalism is worse under any of the collectivist ideologies. Communism and socialism are garbage.

To those saying communism vs capitalism is a false dichotomy, what else is there?

(((Well-connected)))
(((Wealthy)))
>that bit about owning the media
Can't make it up.

generally speaking, left-wing thought is preoccupied with the material. it is a quantitative view of reality. right-wing thought is preoccupied with the immaterial. it is a qualitative view of reality.
communism contra capitalism is a false dichotomy because BOTH are philosophies grounded in the material. there is no place in a communist or capitalist society for things like god, blood and country.

lolz capitalism is slavery, the good ole complete opposite of reality Jewish trick

Communism
strong central bank owned by Jews (namely the Rothchilds)
Jews hold most white collar positions of privilege
everyone is equal (as slaves under Jewish hegemony)
Antisemitism is outlawed
authoritarian rule (with lots of purges)

Take private property (aka the means of production, or factories)
from the individuals that own them and give them to "the state"
(a small number of people in positions of privilege filled through nepotism)
turning the entire country into private property owned by them with the people still
working in factories they don't own and now will never have an opportunity
to own making less than they did before with a lower standard of living. Or
to make it simple basically a return to feudal serfdom only the lords will
now all be Jews instead of natives that basically consider the gentiles subhuman livestock

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It didn't. Capitalism is simply Feudalism with a chance for economic mobility. It still retains the distinct castes found in feudalism only on a broader scale, which is why class warfare rhetoric works so well as an argument against it. The lower class still consists primarily of low-skill manual laborers. The middle class still consists of Artisans and craftsmen. The Upper-middle consists of small business owners and increasingly technichal jobs. The upper class is reserved for those who either own large businesses (i.e.-guild owners/merchants) or have highly valuable but incredibly technical jobs (doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc.). About the only class which capitalism outright destroyed was the priest/scholar caste, which has been replaced with a bureaucratic school and university system which primarily exists to pump out degrees for people to wave their dicks around without actually meaning anything. Even then, capitalism can't be solely blamed for the downfall of education, as it's as much a product of modernist and post-modernist thought as well as rampant industrialization.

In communism and/or socialism, everyone is equally poor, with the government taking and hoarding the wealth for the politicians and leaders.

A leaf speaking about capitalism and money is like a blind person describing color. Fuck right off, you wouldn't know a free market if it apologized right to your face.

National socialism

>american education

>be me, no credit, no bank account
>rent less than 500 monthly, most utilities included
>credit required for literally fucking anything in America
>apply for 0% APR
>instantly denied

Well, looks like it's time for me to grab a gun and get everything COMPED.

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that black jack buddy. The ace is worth 11 and the jack is 10. Sure the ace can be 1 or 11, but, when the goal is 21, why would it ever be worth 1.

It is Masonic 1,0 binary, duality

what if they make a hack/slash animated movie with gilbert gottfried as mortimer strick?

So communists are anti Jew too?

so now black jack was invented by the masons, hu.

Goebbels... get the gaschamber ready

lol da fug nigger you retarded? No one said Black Jack was invented by the Masons numb nuts, cards are representative of numerical values, in the occult symbols have multiple meanings and numerology plays a big part in symbols, learning how to decode the meanings of symbols is the arcanum

Replace capitalism with democracy and you're a bit closer to the truth.

>has multiple kids
>is a complete moron that has to work multiple jobs

Even if she had a husband that died he should have had life insurance. You guys are fucking pathetic.

The black market is unfettered capitalism, you fuckin imbecile... longest running market in history, retard. True capitalism is the freedom from govt regulation, shitdick...

>Also I'm not defending communism either.
Yes you are Chang