Hey guys, I'm a Communist and I'm willing to debate and answer your questions. AMA

Hey guys, I'm a Communist and I'm willing to debate and answer your questions. AMA

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Get out, grandpa. Your ideology is old and has been proven wrong time and time again.

Not an argument, explain why I'm wrong. I am willing to debunk you.

Come on, are there any people on pol who are willing to debate a Communist? I thought you had good arguments here.

Hello communist friend,
I'm a programmer.
How can I seize the means of production to start the communist revolution in my hometown?
Do I go to USA and hold bill gates at gunpoint in order to have access to windows? Or do I just pirate it?
How do I seize the internet?

>How can I seize the means of production to start the communist revolution in my hometown?
You just have to try hard enough and rally the people under the cause of worker's liberation instead of the boot of tyrannical capitalism.

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Aby do you push global, totalitarian state under the flag of peace and equality?

Why*

Spain?? Explain yourself

It isn't totalitarianism, the workers are liberated from the boots of capitalist tyranny. Compared to capitalist oppression, it's fine. Poland was far better under the Soviets than the capitalists.

Spain agrees with the logical and reasonable position of the future, not anti-humanitarian oppression of capitalism.

>NK in ID
Truly a communist you are

All of the 5 commie regimes failed spectacularly and had huge human cost, besides. Get off the planet.

Pls explain why gommunism has yet to work for all the blood spilled and lives ruined in its name, if it is so ideal. Let me guess, not real gommunism right?

Not an argument.
You just said something and didn't even provide examples. Nobody should believe you at all.

What examples are you talking about? Communism has worked many times right up until capitalistic tyranny extorted it and crumbled it because that's what tyrannical capitalists do. The first period of the Bolshevik revolution was wonderfully successful up until the capitalists seized power and ruined everything.

you are just LARPing

Still not an argument. If you want to debate honestly, at least give examples first. He literally just said "five examples failed, therefore the ideology is 'wrong'".

What incentive is there to be something like a neurosurgeon under a communist regime? That takes like a dozen years of college and internships which is incentivize under capitalism with a half-million a year salary when one finally begins to earn.

Why don't you improve humanity and kys?

Whats stopping communists living in a democratic country to establish a communist commune?
Why do you have to push your shit on others?

whats the biggest garbage can you've taken down yourself???

>What incentive is there to be something like a neurosurgeon under a communist regime?
The society needs neurosurgeons, so people will pursue those careers. The workers will work for themselves and own the means of production, not some capitalist who forces them to work under their boot. People will still pursue those careers, they just won't have their surplus labour stolen by capitalists.
>pol intellectuals
The people always embrace it, it isn't "forced".

Lol, atrocious sentence structure, user. Try again. This is why Communism works: high literacy rates, unlike in capitalist USA.

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Empirical evidence.

using lol in a sentence makes me look smart too penis flower

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you're trying too hard nigger

But that's not an argument, that's just a hyperbole.
Just because Karl Marx might have used faulty logic doesn't mean Communism doesn't work: it obviously does, right up until capitalist tyranny takes over.
Again, actually explain your point instead of just saying the same buzzwords.
More conspiracy theories and canards against Communism? High literacy rates, excellent healthcare, and high standards of living.
Ignores human motivation? People loved to work in the prime stages of Communism, right up until capitalists took over.

Racist nonsense is not an argument. Race doesn't exist, it's a social construct.

lol, kek wills it

Nature is fascist by default, and competition is natural. Man is an animal like any other animal, and he must obey the laws of nature (inb 4 cuckstianity)

Morals must exists, degeneracy ruins a nation.

Races cannot coexist together. Private property is important. Life is not fair or equal.

Also pic related. Embrace nature, or get killed by it

It's an example of what will happen when these hipsters find out what communism is really all about.

Nature is communistic because people value equality and don't want to follow capitalist tyranny and have their surplus labour stolen.
Which is a hyperbole, not an argument.

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>I'm willing to debate and answer your questions.


Greetings, Gomrade.

First answer this one. Are you the "not real communism" one or the "USSR was worker's paradise" one?

What does the role of the state look like to you - during the revolution, in implementing communism, and following its universality?

How will you deal with ideologies which are by definition at odds with a workers' revolution?

Is this just a larp?

Neither. Capitalist tyranny subverted the worker's paradise, it just extorts the workers and their value.

No state, that's what Communism is.
>which are by definition at odds with a workers' revolution?
They will never gain ground because the masses will never fall victim to capitalist lies and value extortion of their surplus labour.
>Is this just a larp?
Not an argument.

>Nature is communistic
Do you see animals treating each other fairly ? you see dolphins having relations with lions, or different dog races coexisting, like the wolf and yorkshire? kek

Btw, fascism opposes capitalism as well.
Have you even read the pic in my last post?

No one cares about your dead beaten flat earth tier revisionist, delusional and disingenious bullshit you psychopaths construed around your attempt to steal stuff from people who arent lazy shit or retarded like you

Get a job or kill yourself.

>Do you see animals treating each other fairly
We're talking about human nature, not animal nature. Animal nature changes depending on the animal.

Flat earth? Lol, more non-arguments from pol, haha.

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>Capitalist tyranny subverted the worker's paradise,

So the "not real Gommunism" then.

OK, moving on. How will Gommunism benefit you personally? What's your angle in wanting this?

If you can, please convince me how Gommunism will benefit me?

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Exactly, humans cooperate and socialism will happen out of necessity.

Nope, when it becomes capitalist, it isn't Communist anymore. Duh. Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings.
Communism benefits me because I don't want my surplus labour stolen from capitalists.
Communism will benefit you because you will be set free, and we will all be equal without capitalist extortion.

Communism became accepting faggots and trannies?

here we have it

"communists" again never actually realizing that a large portion of jobs existing are not jobs people strive for. "people will pursue it". yEP GUILTY I WANT TO SHOVEL SLUDGE OUT OF SEWERS ALL DAY. What kid ever wants to grow up and be a garbage man?

Always has been. There are more than two sexes, anyways.

And humans are animals as well, but more civilized and advanced. That doesn't mean that man is a special being, immune to nature, like religion or marxism believes.

Cooperation in the same race. White , Asian , middle eastern nations built their countries, without the help of other races. You can't deny your racial and cultural/national identity.

>inb4 "racism is not normal ree"
pic related

Many kids want to grow up and be garbage men, though.

But being man is special, we are different from animals.
Racism is debunked, though. There is nothing to be racist towards, race is a social construct.

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You cant self bump. Retard. Communism hasn't worked for Cuba, the USSR, China, or north Korea. It certainly won't work in America. Mostly because we have a highly individualist society. And when you want to enforce the revolution with guns, we have guns to shoot back.

Get fucked red scum.

What's your opinion on private property?

>it isn't Communist anymore

I understood the first time. Not real Gommunism.

>I don't want my surplus labour stolen from capitalists.

What do you do for work? Who is stealing your labor?

>Communism will benefit you because you will be set free,

Free from what and how will Gommunism free me?

I can self-bump, I just did.
>Cuba
Yeah, the CIA had no ties trying to destroy the socialist uprisings of the people, right?
>USSR
A little while after the Bolsheviks, the capitalists took over and subverted the original goals.
>China
They were never socialistic to begin with, it was always capitalistic more than socialistic.
>North Korea
Lol, western sanctions have had no effects? Suuuuure.

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It is extortion of the capitalist, they are oppressing the working class with the private property.

??? ARE YOU SURE?


and even if so there's no proportional amount implied, if "people will pursue it" works out and everyone gets the careers they want, what do you think happens to horrible careers that only exist from monetary incentives? (capitalism)

When you work for a capitalist, they steal your surplus labour. When the workers seize the means of production, this will no longer happen.
Free from oppression of the capitalist, Communism will free you from this.

They do, though.
Yes, I am sure.

reminder

How much do you make? Are you willing to share you income with people making less than you? If you're not sharing it right now, why not? That's the only test to know if you're a communist or not. Everyone wants to take other people's money, nobody wants to give up their own.

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>and even if so there's no proportional amount implied, if "people will pursue it" works out and everyone gets the careers they want, what do you think happens to horrible careers that only exist from monetary incentives? (capitalism)

Yuri was never KGB, there is no proof of that, he was just another lie to discredit things in the West.

Working class owns private property
Their houses, vehicles, etc

Bro.
No.

Translation ; I'm a loser, AMA.

SAGE

>look at how retarded I am

If capitalism can overtake another form of society without simply killing all the dissidents, I would consider it superior.

Equality is a myth. Equality enforced by the government is evil. Nothing in this world is equal and any attempt to force it to be so is an exercise in futility.

Hello, actual worker here, I don't want to starve, I am very happy right now. You're ideology has caused the death(long and painfull) of over 200 million and the suffering of billions, communists have never benefitted workers, the poor or innovation.

"they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work" - communist saying.

Fuck off

this isnt even a good b8 thread this is just dumb

sage this fag

But people will want to cooperate with others, that's why humanity rocks: we all will work together.
That's not working class, then.
Yes.
Not an argument.
Also not an argument. Equality is inevitable, not a myth. There is no government in communism, lol. Nice strawman.

>When you work for a capitalist, they steal your surplus labour.

I own my own business that I built from nothing. I suppose your offering to free me of all this so that you can seize the means of production that I have created?

You never talked about you though. Who is stealing from you? What do you do for work?

>race is a social construct
>racism was debunked
>man is different than animals

Where do i even begin ?

The fact that we have racial differences in genetics, bone structure, IQ etc?

The fact that tribalism is natural in animals and in humans?

Why does the acceptance of your ideology necessitate the denial of all science?
Also why is the Communist revolution never lead by the people but instead the Bourgeoisie and why are the people always the first to be executed?

>over 200 million
[citation needed]
Capitalism has killed more people in one year from starvation globally than Communism (which was just state capitalism).

What does creating special protections for upper middle class faggots have to do with liberating workers?

You're not a communist, you're a liberal who likes the nostalgic imagery of communism.

You didn't build it, the workers did. You stole their surplus labour.

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Workers cannot own anything?

why are you posting on Sup Forums instead of bettering the people around you then? ever notice how communist sympathizers are typically unemployed or failing in a capitalist state? Just a thought :)

Well, the burden of proof is on you. Prove it.

But race is just socially constructed, we decide what 'is' this race and that race: it's all just arbitrary, none of it matters, we can categorize it any way you want. You just have one way we can categorize it, it's still socially constructed.
There is no denial of science, what are you talking about.

We don't want to protect the upper classes, they are the parasites stealing from the workers.

No, they are not workers once they do.
I am doing both.

But lots of kids want to do average things, and garbage men is one of those 'things'.

So you think he was a shill for the US/NATO?

Equality is inevitable only in death. We all go in the same box. Until that point everyone is worth more or less than the other. Out of curiosity, what do you see your role in the new communist nation being, after the revolution?

lol, also nice citations, citing things from known racists who have already been debunked... lol

>Equality is inevitable only in death
But humans want to cooperate, so we will circumvent this.
>what do you see your role in the new communist nation being, after the revolution?
Probably a commissar.

Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html

Human intelligence is highly heritable.
nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis.
articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

Frances IQ drops 4 points per decade because of African immigration
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221

Keep thinking we're all the same, i'm sure the 70 IQ african won't stab you in the back to feed his own race, rather than live in your "equal" society.

Race is not a social construct. Our way of categorizing it is but race itself is an undeniable product of evolution.