Why does Illya get the short stick in every single Fate route?
She never got her route made.
She was implied to die in the Fate route. She literally gets eye gouged, crawls around desperately looking for her partner, and gets crushed by Gil in the UBW route. She sacrifices herself in HF. Even in the alternate universe based around her, she can never be with the one man she really loved, because the age difference is an actual thing there, instead of just the meme it is in the Fate games.
Illyasviel Von Einzbern is truly a character with no good endings, and that makes me sad, considering how much I like her as a character and person.
Her actions all make sense and become infinitely more tragic when you see that Shirou was, according to her grandfather for her entire life, the reason that her parents are gone. Shirou is the big bad to her, and only when she meets shirou, and starts to love him, she can accept her life, and dies for him.
Illya deserves a route. I want to see her happy for once, I don't care if it has no H-scene, or if it's the shortest route, but I just want a happy ending for her character. I want to see her survive and finally fulfill her dream. I don't care about no caster, no rider route, but Illyasviel really does deserve one.
Carson Fisher
She's sub human so it doesn't matter.
Logan Davis
>literally as german/aryan as possible >absolutely top tier magician >subhuman simply because she's a vessel for grail
how does it feel having such shitty standards for what is "sub human"
Noah King
>She never got her route made
Adrian Martinez
at least we masturbate to illya, she should be happy with that
Landon Diaz
I want to give her my short stick.
Zachary Scott
I dont. She is best girl and overall #1 waifu. Never once have fapped to her. Prisma Illya seems to be going into the yuri scene more. It's her as a main character. I meant a fate/stay night route, like Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, or Heavens Feel. l-lewd
Christopher Bailey
what a cop out answer.
Thomas Brown
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Jayden Ortiz
>Has millions of dollars >Doesn't give a fuck anymore
Well that explains alot
William Peterson
I was considering making that the threads op. But the cut out eyes, while bringing tears to my own, and hers, felt more justified. True. He still hasnt finished tsukihime 2.0 after long years.
Hunter Peterson
True. Magical girl Illya is pretty is adifferent person from the psychopath rapist loli from Fate.
It would have been cool a path where you joined hands with her and Shinji.
Josiah Flores
What about Lancer? He should be destroying everyone with his super speed and one-hit weapon but the plot won't let him.
Tyler Gray
Not psychopathic, user.
She was told her entire life, that shirou ruined her own life, basically.
Shirou, in her mind, took away her mom and dad, and left her all alone.
Since she's quite literally never become close to anyone after that, once she starts to like shirou, she gets ptsd that he'll leave her, and goes full yandere.
Thats if she grows to like shirou, if she doesn't, she does go psycho path loli. Because then 'her grandfather was right, and shirou must die'
Juan Cook
got stuck with shitty rng with shitty master after shitty master.
no one cares about him since he isnt a cute loli.
Matthew Stewart
Her spinoff series was also hijacked by Shirou. Poor Ilya.
Aaron Rivera
I'm pretty happy with prisma as her route. Miyu is much better for her than Shirou anyway.
Brody Parker
At least with Miyu you don't get the rather creepy Incest thing (Even if they're not blood-related).
Elijah Cooper
I feel like Illya isn't the same in Prisma. This is her as a happy pure life, it feels like illya is a lot more of a normalfag in prisma.
Jack Flores
This Lancer deserved better in every route
Brandon Harris
She's literal shit on every media except prisma
Connor Thomas
And wouldn't she want that? Instead of being cast aside and abandoned, she got a normal life without fear, loathing and doubt?
F/SN Illya would probably hate her Prisma counterpart, because she would remind her that she didn't have to suffer. That her fate wasn't preordained, and yet it happened anyway, and her life was stolen from her.
Jayden Carter
Wasn't he almost the main servant in FHA?
William Peterson
She's going to get an ending with Shiro anyway. People who think otherwise are insane.
Nathan Clark
I don't know how or what kind of ending that would be though. Shirou's already been claimed by the old hags there.
Ian Campbell
Is it best that Luvia does not get a route and is instead just a high-tier supporting char?
Gabriel Russell
This. She is what Erica is in Prisma.
Brandon Jones
Her route would be her winning the Rinbowl
Jeremiah Williams
>She's literal shit on every media except prisma
You got that the other way around. What makes Illya a compelling character is her personality. Prisma yanked that out totally and instead made her a generic shoujo protag with a Nii-chan fetish.
Colton Morris
Yeah she is definitely quite a bit different as she haven't gone through all the things the original Illya did.
She's a lot closer to the Illya we see shortly at the start of fate/zero. Which I guess makes sense as she's much closer to the age of Prisma illya there than in fate/stay night and she also hasn't gone through all the hardships yet.
Ayden Bailey
>She's a lot closer to the Illya we see shortly at the start of fate/zero. Which I guess makes sense as she's much closer to the age of Prisma illya there than in fate/stay night and she also hasn't gone through all the hardships yet.
She's that Illya without all the heartbreak and brainwashing.
F/SN Illya is a broken bird. Her Prisma counterpart was spared that heartbreak.
Lucas Green
How the hell you'd make a sadistic magical girl Illya show anyway, trying to femdom her onii-chan and rape Miyu and the meidos?
Dominic Sanders
We know F/SN illya would hate her counterpart, as F/SN illya is literally kuro.
I know its the better fate for her, but I cant help but love both. I agree, prisma makes her a normie. She's sn if she had her perfect world, but illya is only illya because she got screwed over.
Joshua Scott
>What makes Illya a compelling character is her personality
How is a sociopathic little bitch a compelling character? Granted, it's not like she's a great character in Prisma, but its writer is better than Nasu. Every Nasu character is extremely shallow.
Joseph Howard
She gets F/HA.
Jackson Smith
You know what I'd like to see? If Prisma ever got away from the Miyuverse and continued, a version where Prisma Illya got sucked through to the F/SN world, and had to go up against her F/SN self. She's have to confront the idea that her happy ending wasn't always in the cards, that she could have ended up very different and maybe she'd even try to redeem her counterpart.
Justin Rogers
Then watch/read Prisma Ilya, autismo.
Luke Ramirez
What do Illya kisses taste like, Sup Forums?
Carter Gutierrez
Nothing to be proud of seriously. Do people even like HA?
Dominic Hill
>Has the potential to be the best character in the entire series due to her heaps of backstory >Ends up being known as the most popular example of Yuri
I never seen such a waste of a character in my life.
Lincoln Carter
Kuro only hated Illya in the start though, I think the same would probably happen if the two Illya's met eachother, with Prisma Illya finding a way to save her and becoming friends instead.
Assuming it was F/SN Illya that got into prisma's world at least, if Prisma Illya got into the F/SN world then they would probably just both end up having a bad end.
Benjamin Rivera
I think if prisma went into Fate/sn, she'd die.
Michael Campbell
Kaleidosticks are pretty hax though, and servant installs would mean they could actually stand up to their counterparts, even if briefly. Caster vs Caster-Install, Lancer vs Lancer-Install, I would pay to see those.
Sebastian Campbell
Before Prisma, Illya was merely used as comic relief.
Andrew Jackson
yeah perhaps. I'm not really sure how the powerlevels compare, like installs vs actual servants.
Maybe if she had both ruby and sapphire she would have a decent chance with 2wei form.
Nolan Phillips
but user, she literally isn't human
Jose Evans
But then she'd also have to face Shirou who is literally killing himself in order to become a hero.
Jace Butler
Prisma's Illya will just trigger FSN Shirou's hero hard on even harder.
I doubt an install can win against your average since installs are still human at end of the day and sufficient damage will kill them, Servants need either a heart shot or head shot for sure kill.
Ryan Thompson
Should ask Kuro or Miyu about that.
Landon Ramirez
After Miyu Shirou, I'm sure she could face that.
Thomas Perry
Unless she steps into HF. That would be just sad.
Christian Lopez
Semen and cheap scotch.
Jose Gray
HF Shirou is Miyu Shirou, just with a different priority on who to save. One wants to save his little sister, the other his love interest. For that matter, Miyu Shirou was in love with his timeline's Sakura before Shinji ganked her.
Tyler Watson
Fate or UBW Shirou will be more problematic with Prisma's Illya since he gets more wrecked harder by servants.
Noah Roberts
Of course? It's pretty good
Justin Diaz
At least Fate Shirou's primary antagonist is Illya more so than Berserker. Prisma vs Fate Illya would make more sense than UBW where Gilgamesh would just wreck both of them at the same time.
Robert Collins
Because Fate is supposed to be edgy and children dying brutally is a top-tier edge.
Nathaniel Ross
Shes' not subhuman but superhuman.
Levi Sullivan
I doubt Gil will even take Prisma Illya serious until he gets his ass blown up again.
Xavier Murphy
Because of how this shit works, there is a universe where Ilya gets best end
Brody Peterson
w-why would two girls know what Illya's kisses taste like? Illya isn't gay you know...
Leo Butler
And what is best end for her? A long and happy life with her family and friends?
Caleb Robinson
If she's not gay, she does a poor job of showing it. She hasn't kissed a single man yet.
Kevin Phillips
He'll get around to it when he needs to find a suitable vessel for the Grail. Wasn't that the main reason he killed her in the first place?
Logan Reed
So who here has their money on Illya dying at the end of Prisma?
Thomas Sanders
The only cup who has even the slightest chance of dying at the end is Kuro.
Thomas Fisher
That would genuinely suck.
Samuel Brown
Very doubtful, so far barely any characters have died in Prisma. Although it hasn't shown too much of it in the latest manga chapters, it is still a magical girl show, so will most likely have a happy ending.
Brody Parker
Well of course I have no doubt in my mind as well that the mahou shoujo aspect of the series will completely override the Fate tragedy.
Just throwing it out there that if one of the main three does die, Kuro has the highest chance of sacrificing herself.
Zachary Phillips
And I quoted the wrong guy. Fuckin whatever.
Cameron Evans
Yeah... well, she just hasn't found Mr. Right yet. Not kissing a boy doesn't mean you're gay! Illya doesn't even think girls should be able to love girls!
Nathan Ward
Why didn't Kiritsugu use his anti magic hax bullet against Kirie
William Rogers
If managed to kill Fate Illya first, I doubt Prisma Illya will be a suitable one since he just want to fuck the world up so Shinji will still get grail'd.
Isaiah Perez
She only says boys there, not girls. Illya doesn't want to admit it but she clearly is interested in girls as well.
Parker Wright
>She hasn't kissed a single man yet. Not for lack of trying or desire.
Owen Hall
Ilya is kind of a freak though when you really think about it, especially in the Fate route.
No one calling on her killing Archer I can somewhat understand, since he was a servant, and it was part of the war, but she kills Shinji, and no one really says anything.
Yeah, like, I know Shinji's a dick, and he was a master, but Ilya was involved with an outright homicide of someone, and what's worse, is that she gets all buddy-buddy with Sakura after the end of the route, while Sakura herself is left out of the loop as to whether her brother is even dead.
Does no one see how weirdly awkward that is?
Isaiah Cox
I'm not completely sure about this, but Gilgamesh only goes bonkers after he gets paired up with Shinji. Being forced to tag along with the most worthless piece of trash in the War must have driven him insane or something. This doesn't happen in Fate because Illya kills Shinji before he can seek Kotomine's safety.
David Watson
Nigga, you are crying over a cup. It's a fucking cup, just grow the fuck up already.
You are literally crying over spilled milk.
Jack Clark
Shinji was an asshole who treated Sakura like shit
If anything Illya did a favour for her
Benjamin White
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Jonathan Collins
Yeah, that's the excuse, but murdering someone because they're an asshole isn't really considered cool in most cases regardless.
I mean Sakura doesn't even know he's dead. She's left wondering about it, as shown in the epilogue to the route. There isn't even a scene where it's like, "I know you killed him, and I'm fine with that cause he's a dick", it's just a big open question for her, while the murderer acts like her friend.
It's a bit fucked.
Joshua Sanchez
Did Shirou know?
Cameron Powell
Luvia secondhand sleeps with old men.
Asher Murphy
Yeah, I'm 99% sure. He was killed just a few minutes after losing Rider.
Not even brought up once, though.
Camden Bell
>Shinji was an asshole who treated Sakura like shit
Yea wow I remember this. That's the kind of character writing that really keeps you on the edge of your chair
Eli Wright
Or loli bait fap fodder.
Lucas Hill
Yeah and it's taken by Shirou.
Cooper Williams
Didn't Illya mention it to him at some point? Or was that in one of the bad ends?
Kayden Gray
Illya does mention killing Shinji to shirou. Its a scene in the mansion when she has him tied up to the chair and shit. Theres also a universe where she gets joins mutant space monkey pirates who are looking for the one piece in Fuyuki, since there's the whole "infinite universes infinite possibilities"
Nathan Campbell
I cannot remember a specific instance, but I am certain Shirou knows about Shinji's death, but it's never really made much of a big deal, which bugs me since in the route right after, Shinji gets saved, and is shown to be getting on better terms with Sakura, so it's not like he's utterly irredeemable.
Levi Gray
Why is this so popular again?
Benjamin Howard
I believe, maybe its in a bad end, but i'm certain Illya says "him? I killed him as I was watching you fight with rider" as he ran away or some shit.
Kevin Rodriguez
It was a war though? Shinji was willingly being part of it, he knew of the risks
>I mean Sakura doesn't even know he's dead.
Sakura is smart and knew about the war she can add 2+2
Lincoln Sanchez
>He wouldn't get erect if a qt top loli like Illya sat on top of him
Because it' just another war casuality and there is nothing that they cna do, Shinji still can be saved by the end of UBW
James Evans
Shirou is really a lolicon. His hidden stash is loli porn, that's why he gonna get murdered if women in his house found it.
Brandon Garcia
>There are people who care about Shinji of all people Wasn't that nigga about to melt an entire School? He probably fugged Rider all day, so he died with no remorse.
Landon Lee
Rin isn't an old man, nor does she have anything to do with them.
Henry Edwards
It's femdom you shitbag
Nathan Cruz
Because she was made for bullying. Even in her own spinoff series she seems to spend most of the time getting beaten up and molested. Not that I'm complaining.
Dylan Gonzalez
But it's not even really brought up. Do you get my point? For instance, Kuzuki's death in UBW is handled by Shirou being awkward around Issei, and Issei himself assuming he left because the guy was a nomad in the first place.
There's nothing like with in regards to Sakura, or any of the other characters even mentioning his death.
Okay, see, there's a difference between liking a character, and wondering why there's no narrative consequences, no matter how small, to his death.
He wasn't an outsider. He was a popular guy at school, and he just went 'missing'.