Christianity or Natsoc?

Can someone be Christian and Natsoc?

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Yes

No.

>When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken.
>Acts 2:6

Can you elaborate?

Yes, and Sup Forums is both a Christian and not soc board. We believe all life is sacred and valuable yet we want everyone divided into ethnostates because multiculturalism and multiracial civilizations do not work. We believe in preserving everyone's diversity and stopping the brain drain on developing countries / use of modern slave labor via third world immigration as well as empowering nationalism in every country so people take accountability for their actions and strive for the best of their fellow brothers.

We're the good guys. Leftists have been taken under control by Zionist jews that hate Jesus and Christianity.

It's possible if they have a poor understanding of Christianity.

It's very hard to define "Christianity" since Protestantism. But I would say yes to some extent.

Yes. If you don't look after your own family you're worse than an infidel. Look it up.

Easy nationalism preaches that your country is better than another's. While in Christianity it preaches you are not superior to another by any type of culture or race. Even belief and zealotry and Christ gives you no superiority over another. You can like your nation but you cannot believe you are better than another because of your nation.

I goosestep to Church every Sunday, yes you can. Render unto Ceasar etc...

>zealotry in Christ*

Makes a tad more sense.

>praising a jew

With their already dumb ideology I think so

Say if I'm babtist. Can I not be Natsoc aswell? I've been told the beliefs go against eachother

In Christianity, we are all equal in gods eyes because we are basically ants to god, but if there are obvious differences in IQ of the races, we can't all be equal...right?

I don't see how one could, given the total lack of any objective value placed on human life.

I'm struggling with this at the moment, hopefully this thread is still open when I get home.

>Can someone be Christian and Natsoc?
No.
God hates fags

A friend of mine has been telling me to become a pagan because that fits more with Natsoc ideals

Exactly my thoughts. If the value of human life isn't objectively equal across us all, God didn't make human beings in his image, only that particular race.

Ah, I see what you're saying.

But no while there are obvious differences in IQ it doesn't matter. God isn't going to ask you when you go to heaven what is your IQ or what is your political views. He's gonna ask how many times have you given to the poor or lived in Christ's shadow. Being mad at another race gives into wrath, you can understand they exist but don't pass judgement on them because they exist.

Are you retarded? Most Nazis were Christian. Himmler and maybe Hitler might not have been, but they were the few exceptions.

By being Léon Degrelle

Both are good.

Im a NatSoc and i know both arent 100% compatible but I still think christian's are pretty good people and would rather stand with them than a vast majority of "right wing" and left wing ideologues

But then how did they justify wanting a white ethnostate and eliminating the jews?

Don't pick your religion based on a political ideology pick it based on what you feel is right spiritually.
Jews are devil worshipers and deserve to die. Keep in mind they call Christ a liar and say he is burning in hell. That is your God they say that about, don't allow them to keep saying it.

I'm not angry with other races existing, I just see their problems. I just want to know the best way if any to mix the two ideologies

People like you are why we fight our fight. Nationalism absolutely does not say "our country is better than yours" it simply states "i love the place in which I reside and I want to make it a better place for those within these borders". Just like 'white pride' doesn't equal white supremacy.

"His blood will be on us and our children"
Also Saint Aquinas

In addition, try and think about it on a smaller scale.... do you improve your own house because your kitchen reigns supreme in your neighborhood? No-- you remodel your house to make your own living experience better.

Wanting a white ethnostate isn't anti Christian. Trying to end racial tension is good for people of all races.

Also, deporting Jews who have been fighting against your values (including Christianity) and financially draining your people is justifiable. I realize that the Jews were eventually systematically killed, and that was wrong, but most Nazis weren't really aware that that was happening.

Yes, of course. Lutherans, most likely, as Luther in his later years fully comprehended the Jews and their lies and their malevolence to Christian and European alike and warned others of their nature.

Hitler was a Catholic, he just had ideas beyond Catholicism.

I heard the Nazis were pagan also. Is that true or is it just lies perpetuated to make them look bad

Read this: archive.org/details/TheJewsAndTheirLies1543En1948

The Thule Society was a pagan revivalist movement but the official religion of the Third Reich was Positive Christianity. Hitler was against the Thule Society.

Neopaganism is SS related in most parts,but even Léon Degrelle who was a Belgian SS was catholic

tower of babel incident is what caused inequality. hence why there are shepards to piece us back together. also book of enoch explains that fallen angels looks like whites. noah was described as looking like a fallen watcher

One can be a National Socialist and a Christian.

One can be a Democrat and a Satanist.

No. Christianity is Communism lite. Acts 2:44-45 “And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.” (KJV)

Christianity is a blight upon the white race and must be forsaken if we have any hope of saving tour people.

So do you practice a religion?

>helping those less fortunate goes against NatSoc values

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterhilfswerk

I wouldn’t say i adhere to any organized religion. I consider myself an agnostic with leanings toward naturalism and natural law being the highest law of the universe. Call it “God” if you want, do i worship nature or its laws? No. But I acknowledge that nothing we currently know is above it. i.e.: survival of the fittest.

>Positive Christianity
That's bullshit the only time I've ever heard that was from Goebbels but that was in response to Christians demonizing them for being to Pagan.

Shirer, William L., Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, p. p 240, Simon and Schuster, 1990: " ... under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Executed_Widerstand_Catholics

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf

>"Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them." -Adolf Hitler

>"It's striking to observe that Christian ideas, despite all St. Paul's efforts, had no success in Athens. The philosophy of the Greeks was so much superior to this poverty-stricken rubbish that the Athenians burst out laughing when they listened to the apostle's teaching". -Adolf Hitler

>"Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics." -Adolf Hitler

Hitler was just using Christianity to rise to power, he never was a real christian.
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
While he would sometimes claim to be a Christian to the religious public, Hitler also declared, "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity," and claimed that "The Christian religion is nothing but a Jewish sect," and that, "One is either a Christian or a German. You cannot be both." Joseph Goebbels affirmed that Hitler was "completely anti-Christian" and said the best way for them to deter the churches from fighting the Nazi government was to "claim" to be Christian while gradually "strangle any attempt" of religion from interfering with the state. Hitler said that he used the term "God" to refer to "the dominion of natural laws throughout the universe" (and said that he was opposed to "atheism" if it meant denying that). However, he was against any religious conception of God, saying that priests have exploited people's feeling, and that "In the long run, National Socialism [a.k.a. Nazism] and religion will no longer be able to exist together." For such reasons, there have obviously been historians who have classified Hitler as an atheist.

Jonathan Glover, Humanity: A Moral History of the Twentieth Century (Yale Nota Bene, 2001), 355-256. ↩
Armin Robinson, ed., The Ten Commandments: Ten Short Novels of Hitler’s War Against the Moral Code, with a preface by Herman Rauscing, (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1943), ixhn. ↩
Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks: A Series Of Political Conversations With Adolf Hitler On His Real Aims (London: Thornton Butterworth Ltd., 1939), 57. ↩
Joseph Goebbels, The Goebbels Diaries, 1939-1941 (New York: G.P Putnam's Sons, 1983), 76-77. ↩
Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Table Talk, 1941-1944: His Private Conversations, trans. Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens (New York: Enigma Books, 2000), 6. As explained on this page, Hitler avoided promoting the term "atheism" and the denial of the term "God" as such things currently had explicit connotation with the Bolsheviks, with whom the Nazis were at war. ↩
Geoffrey Blainey, A Short History of Christianity (Melbourne: Viking, 2011), 495–496. ↩

Galatians 3:28 “ There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Good goyim, help everyone. Afterall why should you help just your white brethren, why not the filthy shitskin hordes who will try and stab you in the back right after giving them a lending hand?

Positive Christianity was taught in every church in the Third Reich. It is nothing but the ethnoreligion of the Nordic race.

I don't care if hitler was against it though. I'm asking if the ideals clash. If one is inherently against the other

Hitler isn’t wrong either. It’s plain as day. Christianity preaches universalism and is anti nature. It is a major contributor to western civilization’s downfall. Good luck getting this through a christfag’s skull though.

In no way is National Socialism incompatible with Christianity.

The Nazis were christian

...

National Socialism is pro natural order while Christianity is anti natural order. So yes, they’re quite obviously incompatible.

>Keep in mind they call Christ a liar and say he is burning in hell. That is your God they say that about, don't allow them to keep saying it.
But user Jesus is a filthy Kike and is indeed burning in hell right now. You're just too cucked to see it.

>Christianity is anti natural order
Because?

God > Man

That is the natural order of things.

“The meek shall inheret the earth.” -Your Cucked Savior Jesus Christ

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
But Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven; this is also why more modern christians like Martin Luther said (I quote):
- "it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...
... he isn't kidding, or meaning the opposite, but setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
While christian churches seem to be very well of this (including orthodox leader Patriarch Bartholomew), Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

>You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.
Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

It says god is with us on the god damn belt buckle you retard

Christian Morality attacks the foundations of the monarchy and capitalism, thus its spirituality is left-wing

Jesus saying that for the rich, powerful, strong (i.e. a monarch) it is almost impossible to go to Heaven, while the poor will inherit the Earth, you have a recipe for spiritual marxism that will become the real deal as soon as the Church losses its ability to prevent people from reading the Gospel directly
Under Christianity, a hobo is holier than the king, a beggar is holier than an entrepreneur, that contradiction can't last, and it didn't last

It is not an accident Europeans were the first people to violently remove their monarchs to replace them with utopian ideologies
it is not an accident either that every christian church outright rejects whatever version of "true Christianity" you may claim to be the truth.

The people devoted to the cult, working for it 24 / 7, spending their entire lives on it think that your interpretation makes no sense

They think that when Jesus and Paul said something they actually meant it, the people joining religious missions because the Gospel inspired them, the people that go to Africa and adopt babies, the people that actually wanna follow the lives of the early Christians like John Chrysostom (which you constantly claim is a "true Christian" because he didn't like jews, while ignoring everything else he ever said) and live a life of self-denial and poverty to feed others, people like Mother Teresa that lived surrounded by filth and excrement in India...
But you don't. You wanna pretend to be a christian while living a life of a roman
Jesus himself said that if you wanna be like a roman and love your friends and hate your enemies, then pretend to follow him, you are a hypocrite
What kind of argument can you even make to actual devoted christians that go on missions to Congo and India and even DIE for it, to tell them that their version of Christianity is corrupted and damaged by jews?

>Christ
>God
Jewlover.

If Christianity is "the enemy of Jewry", then they don't need any friends. "Based Christian" Charlemagne, the father of Europe according to Christians, for killing pagan saxons, gave Jews their economical power
> Charlemagne (800–814) readily made use of the Church for the purpose of infusing coherence into the loosely joined parts of his extensive empire, by any means a blind tool of the canonical law. He employed Jews for diplomatic purposes, sending, for instance, a Jew as interpreter and guide with his embassy to Harun al-Rashid. Yet, even then, a gradual change occurred in the lives of the Jews. The Church forbade Christians to be usurers, so the Jews secured the remunerative monopoly of money-lending. This decree caused a mixed reaction of people in general in the Frankish empire (including Germany) to the Jews: Jewish people were sought everywhere, as well as avoided. This ambivalence about Jews occurred because their capital was indispensable, while their business was viewed as disreputable. This curious combination of circumstances increased Jewish influence and Jews went about the country freely, settling also in the eastern portions. Aside from Cologne, the earliest communities were established in Mainz, Worms, Speyer, and Regensburg.[15]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany#From_Rome_to_the_Crusades

Their christian "punishment" against the "evil jews" was to receive a lucrative financial monopoly of "sinful high financing that no christians shall ever benefit from" and to move to the next country to fleece when the peasants got too riled up.

Christianity can't cure a disease it caused

Pagan Romans were fundamentally free of the chains of jewish power, so much that they almost exterminated them all in their own homeland after the rebellion of Bar Kocheba
It would be Christian Europe that would fall under permanent jewish influence, with the jewish-controlled churches banning europeans from financing and loaning, giving them as a monopoly to jews

By the modern era, Christians were so throughly judaized, that they started to actively wish for the restoration of Israel so that the end of the world would finally come around and their civilization would die!
And why would it be otherwise?
A religion which such obsession with death, with promise is the end of the world, is fundamentally a time-bomb in the basement of a civilization

Do you really believe that the early christians that embraced their martyrhood to the lions said to themselves "I am dying to this lion so that the white race can survive, fuck jews!" or any such anachronistic reinterpretation that you have decided to give to their death cult?

- there is no "white genocide", what is really going is white suicide, with christian morality as its main driver
the abortion issue is a perfect example of white christians openly fighting against their own interests by wanting to increase the birthrates of blacks and other democrat sub-groups that do abort
Tell me: do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks? (The entire South would be deep blue for starters)

- That Jews took control of european finances and loaning and then global finances by proxy, is another example of how Christian Morality screws whites over
If the Churches had not been issuing numerous bans on white christians from practising usury (which is simply a way of saying "high risk financing"), jews would have never taken over that niche market
Far from destroyin them, Christianity made Jews the masters of Europe. The occasional progom more than paid for itself

- Support for Israel is a third way Christian Morality screws whites over, and it is far from a recent occurance or corruption. As early as 1600s, puritans already believed that a jewish Israel in the middle east was a prerequisite for the Apocalypse
- Christianity does not allow for racial divisions among Christians either "there is no jew or greek" makes it quite clear.
Citing Paul made extremely easy for the anti-segregation preachers of the 60s to get the majority of whites on their side
It also makes no historical sense, christian preachers from 1700s (before the supposed "jewish take over of Christianity") actively travelled to dangerous parts of Africa and South America to convert tribes even when it very often costed their own lives, and when they were converted they fought against conquerors for equal rights for the new christians (see: bartolome de las casas). Numerous preachers of all churches were massacred in Japan (which remains immune to the moral paralysis that is destroying Europe... really makes me think).

You would do wise to consider the relevance of Psalm 37's relevance to the current state of the Third Reich.

>Equating help to constant gibs
>Equating temperance and humility for tolerance and equality
The absolute state of the goyim.

> BUT le JEWsus was BASED and his teachings were corrupted by KIKES meme

Literally all the followers of Jesus, and Jesus himself were kikes.

Among his followers there were many zealots, the most radical jews of them all, that wanted wars against Rome
But sure, he was "le anti-semite non-kike that kikes hated" right?

Now you are going to talk about how he disagreed with pharisees or whatever.

But why would the pharisees be discussing mosaic law with a non-jew? Never mind, what exactly did he denounce the pharisees for that makes him not a kike? Have you actually read the Gospel?

Can you point to a single value that Jesus denounced that wasn't valid?

Because the denounciations of Jesus were idiotic, insane, even marxist
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to punish a slut! (Jesus didnt like slut shaming, quite liberal if you ask me!)
There he denounces the rich pharisees and promises the earth to the meek and the poor! (... and marxist)
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to live, instead of embracing death like him!
There he denounces them over a disagreement on how Mosaic Law is applied! (but Jesus was not a Jew I swear!!!)

You blindly may say "he disagreed with the kikes" as if that was something we needed to applaud!
I have to ask you "christians" of Sup Forums, what are these supposed teachings of Jesus that supposedly got corrupted by kikes? "Hate your enemies"? "Save treasures for tomorrow"? "DO resist evil"?

The opposite of everything Jesus said?
I mean really, is "but kikes killed Jesus" your only argument?

Muslims are hated by Jews as well, but Jews are smart enough to use them as a tool. The same way they use the insane anti-morality of Christianity to corrupt the ancient world and give themselves a privileged financial spot!

But if Jews don't like the own poison they created, that means that we shall drink it, according to you!
wtf I guess I love ISIS now!

I desire to fight for what i KNOW to be real. That being my race. You desire to fight for a hope that there is something greater beyond this world which you have no proof of and are willing to give up everything of value in this world, even the greatest thing of value, your family and your extended family (the white race).

If we are successful, know that you christians will be next once we’ve dealt with all the other bigger threats. You are a traitor to your people.

> inb4 Turning the other cheek does not mean pacifism. Letting someone else slap your face with the back of his hand was a form of social rebellion back then

no it wasn't. that shit was made up by radical black-nationalist liberal theologist Walter Wink to justify social rebellion in South Africa.

There are NO sources to it outside his books, nothing of what Josephus wrote about life in the ancient Middle East mentions anything close to offering the cheek or giving to your enemies your coat being an insult to them.


In the Greek-Roman world, love meant "common feeling of mutual interest born out of shared experiences"

Early Christians expanded it to a commandment of loving people that we don't know, that we don't care about, just so that we can fill ourselves with misguided pride about how we are friends of mankind itself
Agape never has conveyed any sort of violent or agressive implication, as some Sup Forumslacks imply

Among christian writers it has always meant means "a selfless love that is passionately committed to the well-being of others", no implication of tough love whatsoever
see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape#Christianity

Christian semantics are enough of a mess as they are, and then Sup Forums christians wanna add an extra layer of absurdity and mental masturbation: That is where the schizophrenia of right-wing christians kicks in
Only a christian could claim something as absurd as love for his enemies

youtu.be/yKkU3ulrwQ4

natsoc destroys christcuck

Only a right-wing christian could take that absurdity to the next level by killing his enemies while declaring his love for them. So here they want us to believe that the Crusaders loved every single damn person that they slaughtered in Constantinople
Because, according to Sup Forums christians, Love is not about shared interest, it is about telling to yourself "how I love that guy" right before cutting his head off (mental masturbation, really)

dude, if you wanna hate your enemies, just do that, and stop mentally masturbating about how better and so much more heaven-deserving you are than your enemies because you somehow declared that you loved him while killing him

> le pope is le anti-Pope meme
> le christianity is corrupted meme
Question for Sup Forums "christians" claiming that the Pope is the anti-Christ

How would you prove that interpretation of "do not resist evil" by Pope or any mainstream christian leader is twisted, corrupted and out of context?
The context of the story is how christians should behave the opposite of gentiles, who love their friends and families, and hate their enemies

The larger context is a Gospel where all the main figures mentioned allowed their enemies to kill them without slaying them back: Jesus, Peter, Paul

What is true context of the paragraph?
How do you turn "Do not resist evil" into "FUCK OFF MUSLIMS!"?
YOU are the Anti-Christ, Christian of Sup Forums. You deny the words of Jesus because you don't wanna give up your earthly interests.
You "christian" people of Sup Forums/ seem to believe that Paul the Pharisee and Peter the Jew the grabbed their swords and killed the romans that wanted to execute them, come on

They were well aware that their religion demanded them to be submissive to their enemies and finally die to them, that is exactly the lesson they wanted the goyim to learn
Look, I know that you actually don't believe in the whole "infinite treasures in Heaven" thing, so you are trying to justify fighting for survival in this world where you can get actual treasures, but don't try to rewrite history please

I need say nothing to them; they are self-destructive.

Christianity is anti-traditionalist in the biological sense, it has no worldy interest in our beings as animals
Everything animal about the human being is considered sinful


Paul was anti-natalist, as things like wife and family would get in the way of getting people to worship his jewish god.

If unmarried men followed the words of Paul, there would no be any civilization to begin with, people would stop marrying as it would interfere witgh their mental masturbation being a "good person" by telling others that they will go to hell

See:
> 8 Now to the unmarried men and women, and for the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
> Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
> 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
t. Paul the Pharisee

Paul makes it EXTREMELY CLEAR that the main concern for every christian is the spread of this virus-like cult at the expense of their own tribe, and his main worry is that Christians may not devote 100 % of their time to the spread of the cult

the organic self-sustaining self-interested self-preserving society that Sup Forums wants is fundamentally incompatible with the "do not save for tomorrow, leave your family and spread my cult" dogma that both Jesus and Paul saw as the main duty of a christian

Jesus made it even clearer:

> "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't become my follower me"- Jesus

don't you stewpid mutherfuKKKers know that catholicks are not christain

If his Kingdom is of this World, as Sup Forums Christians claim... if Christianity is a religion of earthly power, why didn't it save the Western Roman Empire then? Why did Saint Augustine wrote that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?

Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?
Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?

That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying

and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?
why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?

The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches actively cucking for the destruction of the West
The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!

Fuck off, ancap.

Jews are a very successful group that has become successful by monopolising finances through ethnic networking and promoting ideologies that demonize their own actions so that the goyim won't copy their success
so they promote anti-nationalistic Communism among the goyim while endorsing Zionism for themselves
that is why they promoted universalist Christianity among the goyim while keeping Judaism for themselves, and including it as the Old Testament within Christianity, so that they would remain the most important people of the world.
So there is no real contradiction once you understand how Jews work: Do as I say (Christianity), not as I do (Judaism, Old Testament).
then christians wonder why Jews dominate them!

The problem with Sup Forums christians' claims of modern misinterpretations if Christianity is that those were the ACTUAL interpretations of Early Christians

Whatever Christians would not wish others to do to them, they do not to others. And they comfort their oppressors and make them their friends; they do good to their enemies…. Through love towards their oppressors, they persuade them to become Christians.
—The Apology of Aristides 15[13]

How can a man be master of another's life, if he is not even master of his own? Hence he ought to be poor in spirit, and look at Him who for our sake became poor of His own will; let him consider that we are all equal by nature, and not exalt himself impertinently against his own race[...]

—Gregory of Nyssa, Homilies on the Beatitudes[18]

Who is more likely to have a corrupted version of Christianity?

a) The Early Christians that Roman authors characterized as an extremely docile people that was a frequent target of free loaders
b) The Crusaders that sold children as slaves and destroyed Constantinople

You don't have to necessarily believe your kind is better. For me it is about the love of one's own over others, not the other way around. Other ethnic and cultural group's problems are not ours to solve.

> "If only we had more Chrsitianity in these times of equality and brotherhood, sacrificing your own material wealth to help the poor and to forgive your transgressors." - Sup Forums christians

The West is not dying because gays fuck their butts (heck, even muslims fuck each other all and goats the time, and they are the civilizations expanding the most right now, while the west collapses)

The West is dying because of pathological altruism, and i quote Paul himself in his interpretation (insofar whenever Jesus said this you always say "Jesus means the opposite"):

> 14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
> 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
> if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e] 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Your Old Testament morality has nothing to do with the Jesus and Paul that you claim to follow, and no church father ever pretended otherwise

You are a larper that does not give a fuck about what Paul actually said, and needs to pretend that Mosaic Law applies to him
Yet I am quite sure you work in Saturday and eat pork, lol

If you wanna be a jew, and then go on and convert to Judaism, and stop pretending that Christian Churches want anything to do with you

Every time i see this ancapfag in these muh christian threads he always BTFO of the christians. Lmao

>ancaps
>Believing in a literal meme that shitposters came up with for laughs.

> le Christianity made the west meme

absolute insane nonsense

western law systems are based off Roman Law, which existed before Christianity existed
western languages are based on indoeuropean languages, Malta is the only western country with semitic languages root

Most of the religious symbolism of the West is pagan as well, christian trees, easter, etc
heck, the american constitution never ever mentioned Jesus anywhere, and has the separation of state and church as one of its most explicit declarations

the founding fathers and most of western people for the last 1000 years have been deists. Whenever they tried to take Jesus seriously, things went wrong very fast.

>using long ass pasta instead of actual discution

> le Christianity didn't hamper Europe's science meme xD

why did Islam get ahead of Europe then?

> it... it didn't... I swear

Why is our world for complex mathematics ALGEBRA then? Did you think that europeans just tho it was a pretty word or what?

> bu... but the Gallileo, Copernicus, Servetus and all the other scientists that the Church persecuted were christians and even talked well of the kike Jesus!!!

see: pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
> According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power.
Now that not being a christian is not a death sentence, most scientists don't give a fuck about pretending to worship a kike

> lol you are dumb, Europe took over the World thank to Christianity xDD
Then why didn't Europe take over the World during the Middle Ages, during the peak of the Church, when Islamic Armies had a string of victories from Egypt to Jerusalem to the Balkans and Greece, which they occupied for 400 years?

Europe took over the Americans in the 1500s, during a time where the power of the Church was collapsing because of the Protestant Reform and the Enlightenment, and the renewed interest in greek-roman culture had grown a product of the Renaissance.
Europe took over the Africa and Asia in the 1800s, after the French Revolution had destroyed the remaining power of the Church, and industrial revolution, followed by the scientific revolution, had demolished most of the dogmas of the Churches.

that's

You’re trying to brush over the very words of your holy text and act like it doesn’t mean what it says by giving me some shitty argument that’s been rehased over and over and doesn’t even correlate to what’s being said LOL

Some were but not so much the leadership christianity was used to get those retards to vote for him. The majority of Christians voted against Hitler but Hitler still won by pandering to more retard christians. I've already posted about this.

doesn't have anything related to christ.

Yes

>In no way is National Socialism incompatible with Christianity.
When you put the cucked clergy above Hitler, you've already proved Christcuckery is incompatible with Nazism.

I'm a Lutheran, so I don't.

> le Jesus was violent this one time so we have to ignore "love your enemies" meme xDDDD
> le Jesus wanted you to use swords against your enemies meme xDDD

Sup Forums christians are right that Jesus didn't promice peace and niceness, he promised suffering and war.

The core of the issue is what are the targets of the sword of violence he promises:

- people of your own household. Father against Son. Mother against Daughter
- money changers that were not hurting him or attacking any of his followers at all, and were the only way people that lived in a far away places of the empire could exchange their money to local currency and donate to the temple. Money changing has nothing to do with Money Lending. Money lending would not become the main economic function of Jews until 600 years later, when the Church banned the goyim from high-risk financing

For your enemies, he wants you to love them and to lend them everything they expect from you, as PAUL HIMSELF confirmed (Romans 12:14-21).
Jesus stopped his followers from actually using any sword to attack their enemies, and reprimanded them for misunderstanding. When Peter realized that he would go "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom is not of this world" and denied him 3 times.

And why would Peter do otherwise? Peter realized that he would die: "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom really is not of this world"

Of course he was going to fear for his life. He realized that Christians were never supposed to get power. The religion never worked like that. His kingdom is NOT of this world. That is why Paul didn't try to create a crusader state. Because the only stable, non self-contradicting position christianity can take is the one of a pacifist paranoid minority that is protected by the weapons of someone with will to power.
"The meek will inherit the Earth" becomes a declaration of suicide when adopted by the strong

The war that Jesus DID promise was a war against your own damn family: "I do not come to bring peace, but to set a man against his own household"
Which is exactly that historically happened, Christians were extremely successful at killing each other and killing white pagans, all while completely failing to recover their Holy Lands from Muslims.
The sack of Constantinople by Christians and the Wars of Reformation between Catholics and Protestants weakened Europe so much that Muslims would occupy the balkans for 500 years,

Sup Forums christians are extremely deluded people that wanna follow the commands of a Jew that promised to make their families divide and even asked them to hate themselves and their own families (!!!!) so that they may perhaps-- have a slight chance of worshiping a Jewish War God for the rest of eternity

>Gott Mit Uns
>doesn't have anything related to Christ
I assume then that you believe the Nazis referenced the Old Testament God of the Jews, rather than the trinity, simpleton?

Do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks as it has now?
Abortion alone has split black birthrate in a half, otherwise we would be talking about african levels of black birthrates

What do i recommend instead of Christianity? Simple: Pragmatism
To recognize that what matters is the here and now. That Gods won't come to save us
That we are alone
That only ourselves can save us
Otherwise, it is game over

And Jesus is not going to cry about it, why would he? All he wants is to abolish the Earth and create a paralel dimension where everyone worships him 24 / 7
Our desires of this world, our need to fly and colonize the stars: Gone

I find it interesting that for something "divinely inspired" Christianity does not give us any insight into the Universe. If the Bible had mentioned there are 8 planets in this System, that there are worlds beyond that we can actually inhabit, that Stars are made of Hydrogen, which is part of what water is composed... May be then I would be believe "holy fuck it really is God-inspired!!!"
If Paul had made some huge scientific discovery thanks to this "revelation from the creator of the Universe", I would actually give this pharisee some credit
But all we got is endless pages of social critique, about how rich is evil, strong is evil, resisting evil is evil

I can guarantee you, there isn't a single chapter of the Gospel that I can quote that you would not call left-wing nonsense if it was said by a modern leftist instead of Jesus
(with the probable exception of some of the very trippy chapters of the Revelation)

>I realize that the Jews were eventually systematically killed
>believing the biggest lie to come from the synagogue of satan
lol

It seems to me that you’re implying we do nothing and let God handle the white race’s predicament. Once again this is one of the many reasons why Christianity just keeps putting nails in the white race’s coffin. “That’s right goy! Just trust in God! By no means should you take it into your own hands to fight for your interests, NO! Just have faith in Jesus, he’ll fix it (maybe)!”