This is a thread in which we discuss the current political and social situation developing in Romania. Everyone is invited to join into the conversation, as long as you keep it civil and non-Balkan explosive (even our eternal enemies are allowed to join in). Please refrain from speaking in another language other than English, for the sake of the conversation.
What you need to know: >there are no /ourguys/, there never have been >current political party that runs the Government is PSD (Social Democrat neocommies) >the opposition is non-existent (PNL/PMP/USR) >there are no right-winged parties in Romania (believe it or not, PSD is actually the closest to the right at the moment)
Bump Really interested in this general. Traiasca Legiunea si Capitanul!
Ryan Baker
Regarding the Captain - I've found an essay written by Evola, in which he talks about the tragedy of the Iron Guard and his first impression upon meeting Codreanu in Bucharest, back in 1922. Anyone interested? It really is some mindboggling stuff, I was utterly impressed by it.
Noah Evans
Left/Right is meaningless in Romania. So are any "-isms".
Nicholas Parker
How bad are the neocommies
Ian Murphy
As a side note, I am in the 3rd quarter of reading "For my legionnaires" and all I can say is that Codreanu's bravery and faith is legendary.
Owen Cook
It`s annoying how weak the opposition is, PNL doesn`t even bothers to give a public statement on any any issue atm. Even Ponta makes more of an opposition than entire parties.
Luke Hall
8/10 would buy a helicopter
Robert Cruz
How known is Codreanu in modern Romania?
Josiah Collins
Not as bad as (((progressives))) that try to impress people with an anticorruption stance, but they are shit and people dont vote for them.
Jace Hughes
>mfw the idiot ""king"" is still alive
Daniel Ramirez
He is known by people interested in politics. Even normies know him, and leftist don`t even really exist around here.
Kevin Hernandez
isn't romania where the draculas stay?
Henry Hall
It truly is - Evola said it best when he titled his essay as "The Tragedy of the Iron Guard". Gonna quote some of his stuff over here for the posterity:
>This meeting took place at Codreanu's headquarters, the 'Green House', the Iron Guard's first 'nest', a few months before he was assassinated, along with thirty of his comrades, in the forest of Tancabesti by henchmen of the political schemers who were in office in Bucharest at that time.
>Through a group of Legionaries who part comes towards us a young, tall, slender man, with an uncommon expression of nobleness, frankness and energy imprinted on his face : azure grey eyes, open forehead, genuine Roman-Aryan type : and, mixed with virile traits, something contemplative, mystical in the expression. This is Corneliu Codreanu, the leader and founder of the Romanian 'Iron Guard'
> He even added: "We have conquered the first line of trenches, then the second, the third, and the adversary, which had shut itself away in a cubby hole, in the security which it offers, fires shots at us, not knowing that we would like nothing better than to come to its help against its real enemy". We must recall again this other sentence by Codreanu, in relation to our question about his standpoint towards the king : "But we are all Monarchists ; it is just that we cannot renounce our mission and make compromises with an outdated and corrupt world".
Gonna pull out some more from the essay, I truly recommend everyone to read it, it's only 24 pages long.
Xavier Cox
>there are no right-winged parties in Romania How did you manage to do that post-gommunism??
Henry Lopez
>the draculas fucking hell
Connor Smith
Is there any hope of Romania once more becoming like it's interwar self again? I hear they were quite wealthy Similarly to other countries before they feel under the iron curtain. Not sure about the gypos though.
Parker Sanders
He is definitely known by mostly everyone, but his legend has been stigmatized by the commies to such a degree that most people see the Iron Guard and Codreanu as monsters that ran around killing Jews and whatnot. If you dwell deep into his writings, you'll find a man that wanted only the best for his country, which makes his tragedy even greater.
James Rivera
easy you get yourself whatever was left in the gommunist party you put them in charge and continue with the anti right propaganda
Brody Walker
Romanul countryul woudul be okayul if itul gotul ridul of Gypsiescu
Sebastian Phillips
I already started to read it after this suggestion I wonder if we will ever get someone like him again.
Mason Gray
Well they all larp as right wing when needed but none has any political compas, they have no ideology but one: gain the power.
Camden Perez
Ceausescu employed a different type of communism - one that was massively nationalistic (similar to the Juche doctrine that the North Koreans have). Because of this, most people think that nationalism = communism.
Luis Scott
so would any country in Eastern Europe including you
Justin Thomas
How hopeful are you for the future?
What are your politicans like on diversity? Do they do the standard Eastern Euro tactic of "pump nationalism and identity so people will ignore rampant corruption"
Is he treated like Hitler/Satan in your country? I sometimes forget the possibility that country had during the interwar period.
Gabriel Flores
So they executed ceausescu only to save face basically
Aiden Baker
yes
Noah Hernandez
they executed him for a number of reasons, the main being that he just finished paying off all of romania's foreign debt and wanted to create our own bank.
just leaving this out here..
Liam Thompson
There's only one Dracula retard, and he lives in Transylvania, not Romania
Jonathan Hill
Perhaps they were also feared the great scientific discoveries that the genius Mrs Ceausescu would unleash.
Alexander Watson
We actually are becoming less diverse as gipsies migrate to the west for gibs and theft. It`s hilarious to see westernes screeeching about gipsies from romania.
Jace Sullivan
>I wonder if we will ever get someone like him again.
Never. The Iron Guard was mostly formed out of students - the elite of the country, people that actually wanted to work for the Fatherland pro-bono, because they believed that was the higher goal of the citizen. If you look through the members of the Legion back from 1920 up until 1933-1934, you'll see that most of the members were intellectuals (professors, army personnel, students, historians etc). We'll never achieve that ever again, mostly because culture is stigmatized in our country nowadays - everything has been destroyed by consumerism and capitalism.
Hell, check this out:
>As long ago as 1919 or 1920, when he was a young man of around twenty, he rose up against the communist peril in the name of the Romanian nation, not so much with words as with collective action similar to that of our own 'squadristi', battling the revolting workers, replacing the red flags they had mounted on their factories with national ones.
>Codreanu writes about that time : "In one year I learned as much about anti-Semitism as would be enough for three mens' lifetimes. For you cannot wound the sacred convictions of a people, what their heart loves and respects, without causing deep pain and shedding the heart's blood. It was 17 years ago, and my heart bleeds yet".
The last quote is literally the definition of the redpill.
Brody Nguyen
>inspired by Vlad III who ruled in walachia
Sebastian Morris
the debt was indeed payed off....it's public information
the narrative was that he needed to step off he would have never stepped off so they had to kill him voila
Samuel Allen
Transylvania is Romania, always was, always will be!
Jace Lewis
>having prison bars on your flag
Adam King
In par with floral proletariat solidarity kek
Jackson Cooper
expect for all those Arabs and blacks that are coming here to study at our Universities just to go to the west
Logan Cook
those are Christian-Orthodox crosses, mate.
Daniel Price
>what is triple cross? >what is religious inspiration that all both Nazis and Italian fascists propagated
Lincoln Campbell
Did Big C and the Iron Guard like Orthodoxy only because of Romanian nationalism?
Caleb Bailey
Most people say he is an assasin. They see him as some kind of Hitler assasin. Yeah. Never will people be able to mobilise the youth in such a way. I mean, just by looking at our youth nowadays, as a young man myself am disgusted. My highschool ( im 18 almost 19) believed in western shit such as sodomitic rights, and abortion and you know what else.
Adam Morgan
well it was in the Romanian territories ever since the split of the Christian Church so yeah I guess
Jaxson Jenkins
It was german and hungarian. Romanians were gypsying and squatting there.
Carter Hughes
I wouldn't say so. Codreanu once got beaten up by a crowd of 300+ people because he wanted the college year to continue opening with religious rituals.
Leo Bailey
k Ivan why don't you go checky breeky somewhere else
Leo Wright
I'll leave you with his own quote explaining the mysticism behind the Iron Guard, it pretty much tells you everything you want to know:
>The premise is a sort of inner reawakening,which starts in the leader and in the elite. We must quote Codreanu : "It is a new form of leadership of states, never encountered yet. I don't know what designation it will be given, but it is a new form. I think that it is based on this state of mind, this state of high national consciousness which, sooner or later, spreads to the periphery of the national organism. It is a state of inner light. What previously slept in the souls of the people, as racial instinct, is in these moments reflected in their consciousness, creating a state of unanimous illumination, as found only in great religious experiences. This state could be rightly called a state of national oecumenicity. A people as a whole reach self-consciousness, consciousness of its meaning and its destiny in the world. In history, we have met in peoples nothing else than sparks, whereas, from this point of view, we have today permanent national phenomena. In this case, the leader is no longer a 'boss' who 'does what he wants', who rules according to 'his own good pleasure': he is the expression of this invisible state of mind, the symbol of this state of consciousness. He does not do what he wants, he does what he has to do. And he is guided, not by individual interests, nor by collective ones, but instead by the interests of the eternal nation, to the consciousness of which the people have attained. In the framework of these interests and only in their framework, personal interests as well as collective ones find the highest
Cooper Ramirez
Why did I expect an American to write that?
Levi Wood
No, it was romanian, maghyarized romanians and saxon immigrants. Also the romanians were forbiden from holding offices and wielding any power, were intentionally kept in poverty. There was a big effort to make them rennounce orthodoxy and become uniat/catholic converts in order to maghiarize them.
Robert Martinez
What is Romania like today? How is the economy? How is church participation? Is Romania experiencing a resurgence in right-wing ideology? How are you coping with the migrant crises? How do I say "Vlad did nothing wrong"? Why is your anthem so nice?
Benjamin Nguyen
Well you're the ultimate cheeky-breeky guys m8. You cities look even more sovok that our industrial ones, without the Austrian heritage you would be something like Magadan or Kemerovo,
Charles Roberts
Moreover, regarding Republicanism and democracy:
>"I reject republicanism. At the head of races,above the elite, there is Monarchy. Not all monarchs have been good. Monarchy, however, has always been good. The individual monarch must not be confused with the institution of Monarchy, the conclusions drawn from this would be false. There can be bad priests, but this does not mean that we can draw the conclusion that the Church must be ended and God stoned to death. There are certainly weak or bad monarchs, but we cannot renounce Monarchy. The race has a line of life. A monarch is great and good, when he stays on this line ; he is petty and bad, to the extent that he moves away from this racial line of life or he opposes it. There are many lines by which a monarch can be tempted. He must set them all aside and follow the line of the race. Here is the law of Monarchy".
>Although he was twice a member of the parliament, Codreanu asserted himself firmly right from the start against democracy ; to quote him verbatim, democracy breaks the unity of the race because it gives rise to factionalism ; it is incapable of continuity in effort and responsibility ; it is incapable of authority, since it lacks the power of sanction and it turns the politician into the slave of his partisans ; it is in the service of high finance ; it makes millions of Jews Romanian citizens. Codreanu asserted on the contrary the principle of social selection and elites. He had a precise intuition of the new politics of the nations aiming at reconstruction, whose principle is not democracy, nor dictatorship, but a connection between nation and leader as there is between power and actuality, obscure instinct and expression. The leader of these new political forms is not elected by the crowd, but the crowd, the nation, consents to him and recognises in his ideas its own ideas.
Wyatt Hall
And I'll leave you with this quote from him, as relevant as ever:
>If the Romanian constitution of 1938 has put an end to the system of parties, it is many years ago that Codreanu took a stand so radical as to have said: "The young man who joins a political party is a traitor to his generation and to his race"
Hunter Long
>What is Romania like today? Decent as long as you live in a big city, and thus avoid the reality of the countryside >How is the economy? Booming, but sub-par compared to western nations >How is church participation? churches are packed with old people, but the younger generation is always present at more important holidays.. hell, even I go for Easter and Christmas >Is Romania experiencing a resurgence in right-wing ideology? no, there is no left or right wing..there's just a very weird form of centrism based on party interests. >How are you coping with the migrant crises? not affecting us one bit >How do I say "Vlad did nothing wrong"? Vlad nu a facut nimic gresit >Why is your anthem so nice? it's actually shit, and implies we're all asleep to the troubles going on around us
Lucas Richardson
1.from my point of view, pretty comfy. It is worrying that the youth is buying into western degeneracy though 2. Good. But it could do better if we had actual LEADERS. 3.low by the youth 4. Depends what do you mean by right wing. 5."Vlad nu a facut nimic gresit" 6. Because the language is nice.
Angel Mitchell
>implying the anthem ain't true wew lad
Evan Peterson
Well the economy is developing the fastest almost in the EU, around 5%, but its five percent from just around 200 billions dollars. Church attendance is more than decent especially in rural area. The young generations is righwing but some are polluted by marxist filth, like being ok with faggots. But no multiculti though.
Ryder Allen
I'm glad y'all made this thread. I picked up a copy if for my Legionaires about a hear ago. I haven't read it yet but plan to. How's Romania? How do y'all feel about Eastern Europe having to pick up the torch since the traditional "West" has dropped it? Why do people not consider you white?
Landon Nelson
i didn't say it's not true, i said i dislike it.
Brayden Watson
right sorry man
Landon Edwards
>There's only one president retard, and he lives in Washington, not USA hm...
Jaxon Wilson
>What is Romania like today? A desolate place - demographics are projecting a drop of millions in the upcoming years, given that a large portion of the population is old as fuck + millions of Romanians have emigrated to the West after we joined the EU
>How is the economy? Projected by the government as one of the best in EU, but all studies show that we are heading towards a big economic crisis, mainly because everything is based on consumption+ credits(we literally have no industry left after the oligarchs dismantled it back in the '90s)
>How is church participation? High when it comes to old people, as low as it gets for the young ones. There has been a systematic plan to destroy the Church credibility over the past 10 years or so and the higher-ups in the Romanian Orthodox Church are literally neocommies and freemasons.
>Is Romania experiencing a resurgence in right-wing ideology? Not at all - there are no right-winged parties in Romania, nationalism is frowned upon etc. Whilst some people might still be patriotic, most of the urbanites are brainwashed to such a degree that they actually voted for a party (USR) that labeled itself as center-right, yet came out after the elections as a progressive neo-marxist shithole that is currently shilling for gay rights and gay adoptions.
>How are you coping with the migrant crises? We have less than 5000 migrants in our country, relocated by the EU. The Gov placed them in rural areas where literally no one lives, so most of the population doesn't even know that they exist in the first place.
>How do I say "Vlad did nothing wrong"? Vlad nu a facut nimic gresit.
>Why is your anthem so nice? Our anthem is literally telling us "Wake the fuck up, you sheeple, you have been oppressed for the past 2000 years yet you're still sleeping" - which is pretty much the mentality of the average Romanian.
Connor Brown
Interesting, how would you apply this kind of thinking to countries which dont really have a history of direct monarchy like the US or a lesser extent Australia.
Also how good are the translations of his books? If is there a particular translation to use for his work?
A short essay written by Evola which details the meeting he had with Codreanu back in 1922. It's titled "The Tragedy of the Romanian Iron Guard". It's quite short, only 24 pages long, yet it pretty much shows you what a man Codreanu was. We'll never have the likes of him ever again.
Luis Phillips
don't worry Australianbro once we get you back you'll understand the original
Ian Young
1.good at the moment 2. I'd rather hope the west will be left in ruins and rebuild 3.a lot of gipsyes and angry hungarians
Cooper Adams
alliance against gyppos when?
Liam Martinez
Then why did you award them that province after you took it in ww2?
Juan Ramirez
Frens.
Jeremiah Morris
Nonexistent meme.
Nathan Price
I see your sack has gotten even bigger
You have such a great anthem compared to ours, in the 70s we had a socialist leader who hated everything British so he changed the anthem to a cringy mess (its pretty much a description of our geography) which we are stuck with to this day.
Angel Lewis
Stalin actually wanted to transform Transylvania as an autonomous puppet state in order to control both Romania and Hungary. The plan was scrapped after it was deemed more viable to give Transylvania back to Romania as means to better control the industry over there in order to pay back the war reparations to the USSR. Mind you, up until 1956 we were under direct occupation by Russian forces and the Commie state apparatus was comprised of mostly USSR jews that dismantled most of the country by sending everything useful to the red mainland and by killing or imprisoning all the intellectual elite.
Brandon Flores
Geographyposting loudly*
Asher King
>romania
Grayson Hernandez
>image The irony is that Moldova and especially the eastern part Basarabia was the region with the largest concentration of Jews.
Gavin Diaz
Transylvania independent!
Nicholas Allen
>up until 1956 we were under direct occupation by Russian forces 1958 is when the army left and the Soviet advisers that controlled the economy stayed until 1964.
Justin Reyes
Yep, jews that came from the former Tsarist Russia and occupied large portions of land - Iasi, for example, was comprised of more than 40% Jews at one point, and guess what they were doing over there? Dismantling the economy piece by piece and turning the Romanian peasant into a wage slave. Classical eternal kikes.
Nathaniel Harris
oi you hidden shit why don't you show us yer flag and stop laying such low quality b8
Justin Sullivan
shit, my bad, thanks for the correction.
Adam Phillips
Gonna post this, as it touches the kike subject in depth and moreover, everything that Codreanu says is at relevant as possible nowadays:
>Besides, large-scale general plans : "1) they will seek to break the bonds between earth and heaven, doing their best to spread, on a large scale, atheistic and materialistic theories, degrading the Romanian people, or even just its leaders, to a people separated from God and its dead, they will kill them, not with the spear, but by cutting the roots of their spiritual life ; 2) they will then break the links of the race with the soil, material spring of its wealth, attacking nationalism and any idea of Fatherland and homeland ; determined to succeed, they will seek to seize the press; 4)they will use any pretext, since in the Romanian people there are dissensions, misunderstandings, and quarrels, to divide them into as many antagonistic parties as possible ; 5) they will seek to monopolise more and more the means of existence of Romanians ; 6) they will systematically drive them to dissoluteness, annihilating family and moral force without forgetting to degrade and daze them through alcoholic drinks and other poisons. And, in truth, anyone who would want to kill and conquer a race could do it by adopting this system".
classic divide&conquer, brought to you by the neverending nose people. Seems familiar?
Benjamin Gray
has anyone seen (pic related)?
Jace Diaz
He was so right. I can see that happening today.
Dylan Howard
Kind reminder that Romanian soldiers that fought on the Eastern front (Stalingrad) were given an official ceremonial burial a week ago in Ukraine. They were buried in cardboard boxes, like a piece of hardware that you get from Amazon. Pic related, this is how our country treats our national heroes that fought in WW2.
Hunter Green
Elodia,eu....
Connor Stewart
Elodia will become a source of legendary sightings one day
Cameron Reed
She's out there with Jimmy Hoffa.
Indeed he was, my friend. Truly a sad outcome, this timeline is.
Isaiah Walker
That is sad and depressing. A mockery to our people.
Kayden Mitchell
Kind reminder that the President has requested the Parliament to re-examine the Law on Greater Union Centennial. Why? Our parliamentarians wanted to enact a law that stated that the Romanian Army participated in WW1 only from 1916-1918, completely shitting on the fact that the Romanian Army had operations up until the 1920's, due to the apparition of the Bolshevic Hungarians and the fact that Serbia wanted to annex all of Banat for itself. I shit you not, our politicians actually wanted to rewrite history as a celebration for our 100-years anniversary.
The state of this country.
William King
romangary union when
Ryder Perez
>the absolute state of mememania
Andrew Hill
Everything that has happened in the last 25 years has been a mockery on our people, yet you don't see anyone protesting and whatnot. Our national anthem truly represents us to the bone: we are a nation of pathetic cucks that would let anyone fuck us over, as long as our personal lives are untouched. The only moment we actually did something as a nation was back when we were a Monarchy, and that pretty much says everything you want to know about this nation - that we had to have a strong, authoritarian foreign King to rule us in order to get shit done.
Tyler Kelly
Cluj born and bread. Fuck off Regat scum, Transylvania independent.
Chase Perez
It's Cluj-Napoca for you, rebel scum.
Connor Morgan
In order to have public protests you need to have a minimal organization, an ONG or any political infrastructure. But as we see any right-wing sentiment and organization is quickly linched.
Benjamin Roberts
We're not there yet, but soon enough I hope we'll have a party to actually advocate regional autonomy. I think it might be good for romania to go that way. Federalism is the way forward.
Grayson Stewart
>regat the absolute state of the separatist retards >flag still hidden nice larp
