Why is US Healthcare so outrageous?

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Blame the greedy fucks. Medicine and medical care should be free of charge. Paying out the ass to a hospital because of a life threatening injury or illness is bullshit.

I don't really get what someone in America is supposed to do when they are already living paycheck to paycheck, and then they get a serious health issue. Something that requires constant medication.
It's simply not possible for many people to pay a few hundred or even thousand dollars a month just to stay alive because they were unfortunate.

The US prices subsidize the rest of the world.

you don't pay that much because you are supposed to have insurance. I've had diabetes for 26 years and lantus is like $25 for a 6 pack of pens. Granted if I lost insurance shit is like a grand for 6.

Lots of reasons, all rooted in government shenanigans.

>Paying doctors, pharmacologists, technicians, and scientists is bullshit because I WANT THINGS

Humira patient here for Crohn's. It actually costs way more than that. Averages about 30k a year for me without insurance. Thankfully I have insurance that pays it in full for now.

Hello Cameron

fuck off retarded kike bottom bitch you lie and shill and make no sense. ever

Isn't there anything that can be subbed for Advair? It's so expensive, and dangerous too, I've heard

but have you ever questioned why a necessity, in some cases, is so expensive?

Fuck you, I worked hard to get paid $100,000 a year.

no because there are numerous ways to get it even if you are dirt poor. I didn't have a stable job till I was almost 30.

Muh capoteelism is soo goods muh freedooms depends on monopolies owned by da choozunsz peoples cuz rich men is gods. Dont patronize muh awesome fredums, i haz thirty ar15s in mu closet, one day da gov guna poosh to hard and dey gunna be a revolotion, they already brainwashed muh son to be a sissy, take half muh paycheck in income, property and sales tax, but huh onnea day dey is a gunna poosh too far and imma whip out muh gunz from da safe and fight fer freedums. All i need is stockpile mo ammuh, cant walk past 50 yards cause ive got big bonez and diabeetus, but ill be a world class insurgent as soon as it goes on down i tell ya now!

Merica merica

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You sound like someone who doesn't either have any useful skills to help out your fellow man, or are a retard. I'm guessing the later.

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We invented all the drugs.

If he fixes the nuts he won't have any more followers

If it were legal for us to buy drugs from other countries this wouldn't be a problem.

Because of (((government regulations))) intentionally stiffing competition.

Well let's look at Canada really quickly. I looked into taking a job there and looked into the taxes. Same money, my tax % would go up from about 15% thanks to being married and kids etc, to over 35% and that didn't even include the healthcare fees they make you pay. So what in the fucking world are these people thinking you are going to save money on? OMG YOU CAN SAVE $120 ON A NAME BRAND DRUG YOU MAY NEVER NEED FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF 20%+ OF ALL YOUR INCOME!

>t. Spic who doesn't understand anything
Money doesn't grow on trees, and I'm not going to work my ass off for free.

It's mostly American companies developing the drugs and pushing them through decade long development and testing cycles which cost billions of dollars with no guarantee of success.

Obamacare actually raises the price. Like the price should aleady be the highest to reflect gdp per capita and then obamacare made it much worse by doing shit like making you undeniable from healthcare, meaning taxpayers are going to pick up the tab of 70 year old homeless people.

Because government fixed it the first time and are now trying to fix it again!
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Listen up you faggot. The fact that Americans pay the R&D cost of the drug which is not passed on to other countries is most of the reason it's more expensive here. The drug companies can't spread that cost around to all the other countries they sell them into. Some countries even require the drug company to manufacture the drug there and wont allow it to be imported. So now go stick a big fat dildo in your ass.

Who's going to pay the Dr. et al? Are you going to demand they work for free? Is that not slavery? Fuck off you basement dwelling loser.

> pays crazy taxes recieves shit in return
> gov spends literal trillions in "nation building"
> hurr meds arent free

Maybe if americans actually had balls, they would change their gov. Never gonna happen though, ever.

More important to churn out EBT cards and send aid to israel to take action on medicine prices.

Cognitive dissonance at its best

I mean that is literally every bernie supporter that exists.

>literal nigger

We are trying to get rid of that stuff not tack on more you fucking retard. "We need to pay more taxes to get breaks on medicine!" See but you're probably an actual nigger just trying to piss people off.

Why do people think medical care is a right?

Because they are retarded and can't into basic ethics, like slavery is bad. They never look past whats convenient for them. Like a nigger.

Yeah right, get rid of it.

By electing a jew loving cuck into office? Who is literally at the point of breaking into another war on behalf of your jewish owners.

For the people who own you and your pitiful soul, its more important to allocate funds to destroy other countries than keep a simpleton cuck tribute payer alive, thought probably a mistake are their part. If americans start dying in mass from overpriced meds, since its such a junky ridden shithole full of Goddamned degenerates who need constant medication just to stay alive, then they will lose their tribute state and have to find another host. Though i doubt they would be able to find another people stupid enough to dupe as badly as they have with you fools, their is probably no other race on the planet more susceptible to jewish blabber and propaganda than the americucks.

America is dead, its corpse is still rotting and making a mess around it, but its over. Any military actions are just rigor mortus at this point.

Will you neck yourself when america falls beyond the point of denial?

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Because retarded statists like Bernie Sanders increase regulations and subsidizes and healthcare companies have a fiduciary duty under Delaware law to increase profits and produce a dividend for their shareholders.

why the fuck would I want to subsidize the rest of the world?

When big daddy government is paying you can charge lots

I had a CT-scan today, set me back about 33$.

How much would one set back an American? Not trying to start shit, genuinely interested.

health care shills are the fucking worst
the system is entirely broken, and it starts with the US and our overpriced medical education, which caused overpriced healthcare.
new medicines must always be produced to keep money coming in to help pay for the research the up and coming MD's are doing
insurance companies need their share, and only drink the normie MD koolaid
why the fuck doesn't any of the plans i am offered through work cover chiropractic and naturopathic care for my family in any way close to how much they would rather me go to the normie doc and take his fucking script of thr week? i am entirely fed up with all of you HERE of all places falling for this fucking bullshit.
bring it on MD shills, i have had enough of this. you will forever be called out here and in public (slowly) from here on out.

The jews have all the money. I don't get why we don't just pass laws restricting the flow of capital across borders and then take all the jew gold and spend it on ourselves.

Ok, but how effective are the medicines from the other countries?

Republican way: companies get tax breaks for offering healthcare. Ins companies compete for best prices so companies will buy their product. Healthcare costs kept in check. Tax cuts for healthcare still mean we subsidize, but we do it with worker focus and in an intelligent way. Medicare takes advantage of low prices set by competing insurance companies.

Democrat way: ins companies that fund democrats get taxpayer money. no incentive to negotiate for prices BC they'll still get paid (remember epipen?) Ins companies lobby against medicare expansion. Largest tax hike in decades but it wasn't called a tax so libshits pretend it never happened. We literally give money to the companies who pay people to vote against single payer healthcare. System rapidly implodes (national average premium hike in 2017 was 25%)

That's US healthcare in a nutshell. Fuck Obongo and fuck the ACA.

Forced subsidy

Without insurance, probably over 1k.

Americans will defend this, that's why they deserve to suffer and die. AHAHAHHAHA suffer 53%ers

(((pharma industry)))

My girlfriend works in a hospital, the waste is insane. She sees the same junkies often, 100's of thousands spent on nothing...

No because I understand supply and demand.

I'm all for killnig the blacks and jews, but beyond that we should be taking better care of our fellow whites. Single payer, government negotiated drug prices, alongside private companies who can try to offer a better product.

People who don't know what they're talking about should shut up. Prescription drug prices are high in the U.S. because the U.S. foots the bill for the rest of the world via bench research, clinical trials, subsidies, giveaways, etc etc. It's 10 years and half a billion dollars to bring any drug to market, last time I looked. Sanders would do well to STFU.

So you're saying we are mega cucks? We should be invading and enslaving those countries not giving them the fruits of our labor.

we also control 40% of the world's total wealth. second place is china at 10%. the reason they can't sell drugs for the same price in other countries as they go for in the united states is because europe couldn't afford it. the option is between selling it cheaper or not at all. if bernie studied economics for 10 fucking minutes he would understand this.

>Who's going to pay the Dr. et al?
The government
>Where will you git the moneeyz from
Even under monetary system, government makes incredible amount of money through taxation and trade. It comes down to greedy fucks. (Muh i worked hard for my million dollars a year)
And under money-free system, its not even an issue. There are things called central planning and quotas. Can't wait to hear how t doesn't work, and how China is free-market despite all the facts
kys

gov enforced monopoly and a near unlimited money supply

at least 53% ain't the tax rate

the entire world needs to unite under the stars and stripes

We spend more money and get worse results, that taking into account how morbidly obese you fucks are. How much further do you need to look? It's fucking obvious the government should negotiate down drug prices for us via a single payer system while also allowing private companies to compete. Also while redistributing money from jews to whites before killing them alongside the nigs. It's our money anyways that they took by cheating.

>t. Spicnigger

I would usually agree with an argument like that but, American healthcare is so expensive due to insurance companies asking for deals on bills so then healthcare prices were jacked way up so that some insurance companies can get deals on jacked up price.
This is true and you all need to research it.
Universal healthcare can still fuck right off

>Can't wait to hear how t doesn't work
do you mean you haven't heard yet? are you a time traveler from 1925?

There is not a single solid argument, outside of conspiracy theories, muh feelings, muh purpose and such.
Every argument against marxism i can easily dispute with facts. (And i am not even marxist). Try me.

Because health insurance is a thing

Insurer 1 will pay 10 dollars for pill A
Insurer 2 will pay 50 dollars for pill A
Insurer 3 has a catch all policy that will pay maximum of 125 dollars for pills to be audited post purchase for reasonable compensation according to the terms in the policy

So the company charges between 50-125 dollars per pill as to get the most bang for their buck.

Same exact thing for health care. Then the insurers do their EoB remediation and pay less than what ever was charged where as the consumer pays based off of the build priced not the remediated price

Why does everyone ONLY want to talk about the evil drug companies and scary insurance companies?!??? That's NOT the problem with healthcare!
Why doesn't anyone ever bring up what the Doctors and hospitals are charging?!? THAT Is THE problem. If you're not willing to address the fact that Drs should NOT make 400k a year, year after year, then we will never solve the problem. You're going to have to regulate doctor pay and hospital profits and what they charge or don't bother. The whole reason health insurance is needed is because we can't afford what the doctors and hospitals charge!

Because it's heavily regulated which drives up costs and facilitates a monopolistic structure.

Ouch man. I'd hate to get sick in Jesusland.

I spent almost decade of my life getting a major in medicine, and I'm greedy because I want the fruits of my labor for myself and not the lazy asshole who decided to sit on his ass and collect food stamps his entire life so need a liposuction. The fact of the matter is that healthcare was fine before Obamacare fucked it in the ass and it doesn't need poked and prodded.

I think it has something to do with patent agreements.

Because I'm not allowed to have a reasonable salary after a decade of studying medicine.

>We are trying to get rid of that stuff not tack on more you fucking retard. "We need to pay more taxes to get breaks on medicine!" See but you're probably an actual nigger just trying to piss people off.

Why is healthcare so shitty in other countries?

This is why.

It's getting fixed. Give it a few years.

America isn't allowed to decide the price of drugs.
When Trump said he was going to do something about it Sup Forums sung such praise. 1 month later he comes out of a meeting with his tail between his legs saying price controls are out of the question. Not a single thread about it. Big Pharma's got both parties by the balls.

Yeah but he wants your labor!
FOR FAIRNESS!
Oh wait that's slavery. I fucking hate niggers.

It's possible for you to make 200k and every white person to have healthcare. It's called kill the jews and take their money. They have all the money.

>everee uttha mayjuh coontrees!!

Prescription assistance

Look it up

Drug companies will literally give out their drugs for free to low and middle income people for free.

Anyone want to talk about Tort reform?

Socialism under the guise of nationalism does little to appease me, what exactly happens after you've taken the last shekel and there is no more gibs money to hand out?

Because we have niggers, shitskin invaders and native-born fatsos overburdening our system and bureaucratic bullshit driving decent white professionals out of the field.

Put it in a giant fund and only spend the yearly returns minus inflation.

>stop paying doctors
when tyrone shoots you in the crossfire over a 3 weeks old escalating neighborhood dispute over a pack of black-and-milds he should have won over a dice game, who the fuck would get out of their house in the middle of the nite to come do emergency surgery on you?

Yes Hell Yes. And we need to eliminate patent protections for larger companies that prevent smaller companies from entering the market to compete. It would also help to remove the insurance companies as the gateway between doctors and people. They should be on the side as a parallel entity not a middleman.

You sound like someone that doesn't realize that fucking France has better healthcare than the US.

You burdens are part of why our system is so shit. Are you even white? You're probably Jews since you have such shitty genetics, quit fucking your cousins!

>got both parties by the balls
Almost there, once you realize that one "corporation" cannot legally force another to abide by its edicts, the facade of what the American government is, an entity in name only, do you realize that the institutions are essentially powerless, if not beholden. A government doesn't have to negotiate with private companies, you have an objection, settle it in court. Only in America can a company tell the President to faff off, to them, as his title would elude to, he's merely another executive, because that's all he is.

You aren't white are you? Whites want to kill jews but we don't let other whites suffer with crohns without treatment.

All that R&D spending to develop new heroin pills and drugs for skin conditions which have liver failure and sudden death as potential side effects. Money well-spent!

I don't know how true this is, but I do know the U.S. is the ONLY country that pays what our "pharmacists" do those 100K salaries. In every other countries, those behind the counter fucks are "pill dispensers" and get paid half of as in America. That field only exists because of AMA regulations.

The massive amount of research and education that makes our healthcare the best costs money

All this healthcare should be free bullshit is pipe dreams. Research and develop your own medical practices then you broke bitches

Way back in the HillaryCare debate (circa 1993) there was discussion about allowing re-importation of prescription drugs, effectively undercutting the pharmaceuticals' practice of discounting their products overseas while charging the captive U.S. market higher prices.
The usual lobbyists made arguments about "muh public safety" but some just came out and said it was to bolster their revenue.
I don't know why this hasn't been seriously brought up again in the years since. I can only guess that they either want to keep prices high to justify Government health care, or to keep profits flowing to the Pharmas.

US has more people than any of the listed countries.

Supply and demand would be the very first issue with pricing before inflation.

Republicans and Dems simply wont accept that you can't have a highly effective socialist government without a full blown ethnostate. this isn't rocket science. Kill the jews. Kill the niggers. Take their money. Spend it reasonably on whites.

1. Because it's the best in the world
2. Because there's a hugely pricy closed loop between the government, practitioners, manufacturers and insurance companies that most consumers never see, except if they;re suddenly not covered

Even in America these pill counters kill people every day by mixing wrong medicines. If even they are overworked imagine a shithole country. You’re dead

It came up very recently, Bernie pushed a bill that even Ted Cruz supported. Pic related nigger cast the deciding vote against it. He got a bunch of shit on social media for it and most think its why he then came out for "single-payer" but few believe him.

this user has it right. the AMA needs to be broken and market competition needs to come back.

Exactly
Our drugs are way better than the exact same drugs everywhere else

We have this thread way too often.