Is use of molly

Any indicator of moral decline?

sage these threads
and maybe do other things to them.....

i just did a few bumps last week, shits fun af and safe as hell too compared to most of the other shit on the streets

mask off bet f a m this shit is lit

saged

havent touched the shit in years, but i remember becoming a complete degenerate while taking it

Most street MDMA (in the US) contains a higher ratio of methamphetamine than molly, and MDMA itself is more neurotoxic than meth.

Most molly is cut with meth, so enjoy your meth

There’s always one drug at the forefront at any given time that’s extra demonized, it just happens to be molly atm, probably because it’s aimed at younger kids so it’s easier to get a scare and views from the housemoms watching ABC local news

Why are Whites so degenerate? Damm

>neurotoxic than meth
Lol no. The guy who "proved" holes in the brain were formed switched MDMA with meth.

>molly
>hasn't tried AMT w/ Ethylphenidate w/ 2C-P

You people don't know what a trip is.

The interesting thing is that meth actually isn't all that harmful when dosed in moderation.

Meth isn't technically directly neurotoxic.

>MDMA itself is more neurotoxic than meth

citation needed

I'm not talking about brain holes, never heard that before. But the overheating on neuro system can cause brain damage over time. Stim use can be good when used for prodoctivity but that is not possible with molly.

CONT.

But dear OP, , psychedelics are resistant to overuse. You can "overuse them" but the tolerance mechanism means you have to be desperate to do them days in a row.

Not only that but they offer a high quality experience for a fraction of the price of some piece of shit jew media bullshit that elicits a hundreth of the satisfaction of exploring with psychedelics.

MDMA isn't either. Of course if you get shit that's cut with garbage or are a tard and decide to take it in 100 degree weather at a music festival then you're going to cause harm to your brain.

Those who proclaim MDMA to be great don't do it often due to the large list of problems that manifest with doing it more than once or twice a month. If you're going to be a degen just do some ketamine, molly isn't even slightly insightful.

lots of under 18s in this bread

Molly is a kike drug anyway. The true patrician only uses psychedelics.

MK Ultra retard itt

DUDE

molly? what? are you a faggot?
molly = anti-boner

psychedelic mushrooms and entheogens
are the only substances that require courage.

SAGE

Makes you cry from happiness listening to cheesy old happy hardcore tunes.

But then you discover watching porn on it and it's over. Have literally spent days watching big tit jap porn and snorting lines. It's literally the greatest thing ever, I want to do it all the time holy shit.

But I don't because it's insanely degenerate.

I FEEL YOU DOG, POUND IT

>psychedelic mushrooms and entheogens are the only substances that require courage.
This. You don't have balls until you've had a breakthrough experience from DMT or similar.

mdma is not more neurotoxic than meth. iv done pure mdma 3 weekends in a row and i'm perfectly fine. it doesn't even make me depressed, i feel great the day after, that's how I know if it's good or if it's been cut with shit. pure mdma will cause little to no depression at all, cut mdma will make you feel like a pile of dog shit for a week.

mdma being neurotoxic is like weed hysteria

The Molly craze was about 8 years ago, this shit is old news.

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Ignorant motherfucker

Most molly you find on the streets is cut with all sorts of poisonous crap.
Even if you did get pure MDMA, there is still a fine line of OD'ing.

So to say that molly is "safe as hell" is retarded. Only a degenerate pill head like yourself would try justify molly is safe.

> in a few months I'm going to drop md and go see Darren styles perform

Words can't describe how excited I am

no. i advocate for everyone to try it a couple times in their life. ONLY after you have finished education and you have developed. The euphoria that MDMA gives you is not something on the regular scale of human emotion and you would be missing something interesting if you did not at least understand that.
But thats it - its just a drug. Have the experience learn from it - be mature and move on

>getting high off MD alone and watching porn.

having sex for hours on MDMA is so fucking blind blowing that it risks making regular sex BORING

so again, if you have someone special its something you can do with them .. but only a few times

The huge rise of molly/ecstasy was a psyop operated primarily in Europe to pacify and brain damage the middle-class/rich youth and indoctrinate them into a philosophy of "love for all" and multiculturalism.

I used to love electronic dance music and now I can't watch a video of a rave from the 2000s without thinking wow these kids are drugged up and partying and dancing to ridiculous music robbed of any culture or tradition while their country and history is taken away from them and the police are just sitting on the sidelines letting it happen.

i did like 40mg of meth once orally, would that inflict any lasting damage? it was extremely euphoric desu, but i would never in a million years do it again.

So safe that you have to wait a month before rolling again because of acute neurotoxicity, yep. 4-FA is a research chemical with similar effects but once the drug is out of your system it's like you never took it at all. And that's assuming pure MDMA which you will never find except straight off the DNMs.

>I used to love electronic dance music and now I can't watch a video of a rave from the 2000s without thinking wow these kids are drugged up and partying and dancing to ridiculous music robbed of any culture or tradition while their country and history is taken away from them and the police are just sitting on the sidelines letting it happen.

Oh yeah, there used to be loads of rave clubs in the UK back in the 90s and although I was abit too young to go, I used to be obsessed with the music, and the culture and all that. And listen to the tapes at home wishing I could be there live.

But when I watch the videos now from the mid 90s after being redpilled etc, the feels are heavy since

1. It was ultimately a more innocent and peaceful time back then but
2. The seeds that had been sown as far as Islamic immigration, single motherhood, PC culture, feminism etc were left unopposed by a load of men in their prime who were more concerned with bobbing about in a dark room to electro music while their country rotted around them.

It's all just so tragic. Everything is tragic.

To give some chemistry background, 4-FA is fluoridated amphetamine whereas MDMA is methylenedioxated methamphetamine. 4-FA is pretty much the ideal substituted amphetamine because fluoride is the strongest ion you can substitute with. The stronger the substitution, the less lasting neurotoxicity. In comparison, methylenedioxide forms a much weaker bond which leads to more neurotoxic byproducts. Plus it's a pure amphetamine base compared to methamphetamine. The trade off is that you only roll for about half the time on an equivalent dose of 4-FA and the latter half is like a pure stimulant rush.

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Yes
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Sage

It's pretty degen. I have a buddy who used to do it all the fucking time, he would drop M on a Tuesday night. Couple of other friends have done it at festivals but I think doing drugs in a hot field with strangers all around isn't a recipe for a good time. I think it's a pretty shit decision based solely on how much it's just cut with complete shit

Molly use is going to cause the sassafrass tree to go extinct eventually. Nobody farms them, they take too many decades to grow to a harvest.

Why can't kids just stick to pot?

The exponential increase in single parrent families, drug use, and liberalism is a good indicater of total moral collapse. 20 years from now we will be living in a bew sodom then a strong nation will wipe us out or we will wipe ourselves out.

These guys make good points. MDMA isn't all that mind blowing but it's also not that safe. I don't know if I'd go so far to say that it's a deliberate psy op, but it's certainly a useful tool when it comes to the war on drugs and keeping hold of society in general. It's like alcohol and cocaine in that it's a favoured drug of wage slaves, it's unsafe enough to keep anti-drug sentiment going, and yet it's not powerful enough to really be dangerous to societal programming in the same way that psychedelics are.

tfw mdma was legal until the mid 80s

You retarded or something? Why don't you ask if eating a burger in 2014 is gonna give you diabetes too.

My man! Mushrooooomsss

Only the non-pussys can handle psychedelics, shit is inteeeeeeennnnse as fuck and makes you think about anything and everything about life.

Im still redpilled after 100+ uses of psychedelics and the only thing that's changed about me is i have a more goofy outlook on life.

I dont dress like a hippy, i wear polos,good decent pants,my timberland work boots or my adias running shoes etc

The only people you hear about are the hippy dippy freaks who make their whole life revolve around psychedelics including the clothes they wear.

Btw Mushrooms is like taking a trip to an alien planet everytime. It feels 100% alien in nature in a cool way

Care to share any stories user?

MDMA has been on the rise because:
1. it's fun
2. relatively easy to manufacture (as long as you get a hold of the ingredients, there was a shortage like a year back when prices rose but now they're down again)
3. relatively safe unless you're a hippie freak that do it more than, like, twice a month.

Molly isnt as bad as people make it out to be. At first people sold ecstasy with little to no molly in the pill, and sometimes even very harmful fakes. The only actual harmful effect of molly is a seratonin dump. Back when I did it we had tricks to help, im sure theres even more now. Theres a good chance Molly has a very real scientific use for depression/addiction/trauma.

you're an idiot. molly is extremely hard on your brain.

Ive taken it at home a few times to test batches.

Not a major fan of mdma because it feels "fake" but ive taken it 3 times.

I'd rather take mdma at home alone to test it, than to flip the fuck out in public and get my self arrested; never know what's in your batch or how potent it is

Its not even MDMA, or MDA, or MDE, or even MDME. Its bullshit "research chemicals" from China.

>it's another "Sup Forums is full of degenerate druggies" thread
What is wrong with you vermin?

Why would they? The DEA classifies them all the same. We've taught kids all drugs are the devil without having honest conversations.

I dunno, if you have enough connections to get it pure you might as well get something better instead unless you're just going for the cool factor.

>Theres a good chance Molly has a very real scientific use for depression/addiction/trauma.
It's being used in clinical trials for PTSD but I suspect that a proper psychedelic (probably something relatively easy going like 2C-E) would be more effective.

>It's another shitposter pretends he is a perfect human being with no flaws whatsoever post.
What is wrong with you gayboi?

>most street MDMA has meth in it
Unless people are adding it in, theres no reason for meth to show up in MDMA. Where did you get that information from?

>flaws
That's an explanation, not an excuse.

>Unless people are adding it in, theres no reason for meth to show up in MDMA.
Thank you, Sherlock.

im gonna go outside 2bh

If you have the social connections needed to get hard drugs, you're dogshit that lives among dogshit, plain and simple.

wrong.
there are RCs, but they are not like MDMA, or MDA.
the people i knew getting it would test for purity, every, single, time and it was always top tier, and I don't even live any where near a coast.
you have no clue what you're talking about.

>watching porn on MDMA
Do you wank or just... watch it? I can't even boner on the shit.

>going through the trouble of getting/making meth when mdma is already addictive enough to get people coming back
Do people really add meth to mdma? Is there a source on that?

Ecstasy has and never will be dangerous. The only reason it's a problem is because it is illegal and could contain rat poison for all the purchaser knows.

>Oh noe guyz, it's safe and harmless, good fun
Fucktards,
Although reasearch is scant, it seems to fuck up the brain, causes long term fuckery like clinical depression, and is probably the cause of W.Europe's absolutely cucking.. The y2k clubbing/rave binge probably fried god knows how many brains

This chart is absolute bullshit and everyone knows it. I can guarantee you that fucking solvents are far, far worse on your body than heroin, cocaine, methadone and barbiturates.
The amount of sudden deaths caused by solvents should make them the highest "physical harm" drugs on the chart.

Loads of anecdotal sources around the internet. And no, while you wouldn't find only MDMA and meth together marketed as MDMA (it would be against the dealer's best interests) I've heard of ecstasy being a small part MDMA, a small part meth, and the rest inert or something like caffeine. The meth masks the fact that the MDMA has been cut, and it gets users more hooked.

>ecstasy less habit forming and less harmful than LSD
Who the fuck made this chart?

>Tfw leaf things all drugs are bad and alcohol

>Tfw leaf is into Cheese pizza and animal torture

Everyone has one bad grey-area illegal outlet, whether speeding,drugs,theft,sodomy,pizza, over-eating,animal abuse etc

But this leaf strikes me as a kiddy diddler

Though I wouldn't say that most street MDMA has meth in it. It's more likely for street MDMA to be cut with speed or DXM.

DUDE IT'S LITERALLY LOVE.

LIKE I TAKE THIS METHAMPHETAMINE DERIVATIVE, AND THAT'S WHAT "GOD" IS.

LIKE I AM SO *FUCKING* ENLIGHTENED.

LIKE LITERALLY, MOLLY IS SO WISE AND LIKE, AMAZING.

In all seriousness, kill all drug users. I am so glad all this fentanyl is killing off these disgusting fucking addicts. The more the better. These retarded, degenerate children need to be woken up and snapped out of their "high" to realize what life really is when you're an addict.

I've only done "Molly" once years back when the craze was still big, but MDMA actually aided in me becoming redpilled.

Made me disgusted with degenerates and made me hate those who abuse MDMA (and other substances). I remember talking to a old friend and discussing what the meaning of life was. He firmly stated it's about finding the right girl, getting married and starting a family.
It sounded so beautiful both under the influence of the drug, and as I type it now.

I don't plan on trying "Molly" again. I do however plan on finally trying P.Semilanceata "Liberty Cap" mushrooms in a couple weeks time.

>Loads of anecdotal sources around the internet. And no, while you wouldn't find only MDMA and meth together marketed as MDMA (it would be against the dealer's best interests) I've heard of ecstasy being a small part MDMA, a small part meth, and the rest inert or something like caffeine. The meth masks the fact that the MDMA has been cut, and it gets users more hooked.
There are several companies who exist only to test pills sent in by drug users. They use GC/MS analysis to check the pills which will reveal every active and inactive chemical in the pills.
MDMA by itself is not uncommon at all.

friendly reminder to smoke dmt

Oh I'd wank, sometimes I'd lose the boner for a bit but I managed to bring it back. Would literally masturbate for an entire weekend without sleeping or cumming.

Then when I finally spunked it literally hit the ceiling. So satisfying.

>I do however plan on finally trying P.Semilanceata "Liberty Cap" mushrooms in a couple weeks time.
Well prepare for your "ambition" to simply fulfill your biological imperative to be shattered.

What's your secret? Every fella I've asked almost always gets the tinky winky.

Yeah, I added another reply stating that I disagreed that most MDMA was cut. I just don't think it's too far-fetched to find some ecstasy with meth in it.

Dunno what yer on about m8. I enjoy psychedelics and securing a glorious future for my children

eatt shitttt

I'm not saying you shouldn't do that, I'm saying that it shouldn't be your reason to live.

Ah, I didn't see your other reply.
MDMA by itself is actually not hard to find at all. You can use field test kits to check for the presence of MDMA in a sample and to check for common chemicals that are mixed in with or substitutes for MDMA.
In general, if you want pure MDMA, you need to get it in crystal form and not pill form.

great now i cant blast tyga thanks to the news

>In general, if you want pure MDMA, you need to get it in crystal form and not pill form.
For sure. MDMA is one thing (I still think there are many better alternatives) but pill heads are complete degenerates with no regard for life.

Quite right. Best to keep it as an occasional indulgence.

Ha ha.

What are the alternatives you suggest? Are they RC's, I assume?

Last time i did molly i also drank heavily and then punched a whole in the wall

4-FA would be my main one. See and . DXM and ketamine at low doses also have a rolling kind of effect. Beyond that, phens like 2C-B might work too. This is all based on personal preference of course.

It doesn't mean your IQ isn't 5 points lower. You have no way to tell.

I'm familiar with 4-fa, 2-fa and most other RC's.

Really the only RC I've tried that felt exactly like MDMA was mephedrone, but the high was much shorter lived and the terrible side-effects of mephedrone make it a drug you don't really want to take.

Yeah, you're right, they don't really stack up to the real thing if you are a fan of the empathy and the roll. Unfortunately it seems you can't escape bad side effects to really get there. Personally I don't care much for rolling so a psychedelic or stimulant edge is even better for me.

This is fluoride we're talking about. How the fuck can you call this safe?

The fluorinated amphetamines like 4-fa and 2-fa are reported to also be extremely neurotoxic and have quite a host of other terrible side-effects, so if you're using those you need to be very careful.

The fluoride stays bonded to the amphetamine.

I've seen that. It's pure speculation based on structural similarity to chlorinated and brominated amphetamines. Cl and Br form far weaker bonds than F, which is where the neurotoxicity of 4-CA and 4-BA comes from. 4-FA on the other hand doesn't seem to have the same negative effects.

they switched to a synthetic process as reported by some magazine.

True, but even the confirmed side-effects are pretty terrible. At least the damage it does to kidneys is mostly reversible.