>be Decapitated from Poland on tour in Washington, USA >a groupie circles around your tourbus and wants to have sex with band members >they invite her over but don't want to fuck her >she gets pissed off and accuses them of gang-rape >her female friend obviously confirms her version of the events >they've been in custody for almost 2 months now and their future seems bleak >There is something called “rape shield laws.” They prevent defense attorneys like me from taking the past sexual experiences of a victim and putting them out before a jury.
they won't be able to come back to the US even if they aren't guilty
How important is the physical evidence vs. the testimony of the two girls in helping to prove the prosecution’s case?
>It’s hard to answer that question because it depends on the quality of the testimony. You have two accusers here instead of just one, so it puts less of a burden on the physical evidence. I have no doubt there will be some physical evidence if something did occur because the government will be able to find something and point to it – a scratch here, a mark there, a bruise there — and they’ll be able to say, “that’s where he held her down and that’s where he held her arm.” If the testimony of these two girls corroborates each other, if they are correlated, then certainly the quality of physical evidence that will be required will be less. Any time you have more witnesses, you need less physical evidence. It doesn’t mean that you need none, but the government will need to rely on it less. We don’t know what other witnesses even exist out there. Who knows what else the state has at this point? I’m sure that the government has additional witnesses and they’ve been interviewing every single person that interacted with the girls and the band that night.
Zachary Turner
How will the state of Washington go about making their case?
>The state’s job is a lot easier than the defense attorney’s job. They’re basically going to gather as much forensic evidence as they possibly can to corroborate the story of these two women. First of all, they have to make sure that they are telling the same story, and then they have to get physical evidence to match up with their story. You take the two together, and you have a very powerful case. They’ll use any type of video footage that they can locate, and if in fact there were calls made, they’ll get call records. If there were text messages, they’ll subpoena text message records. I’m sure they have in possession the womens’ phones and that they’ve searched those phones. If there’s any indication on one of those phones anywhere that those women did not want to be there at that time, then the members of the band are going to have a very, very difficult time moving forward.
Ryan Green
What are the chances this case ends in a plea bargain?
>The plea rate for New York is over 90%. For federal criminal cases in the Southern and Eastern Districts of New York it’s as high as 97%. It’s very, very high. Most cases end in a guilty plea of some type, [which would make the trial shorter]. I don’t know what the plea rate is in the state of Washington, but I have no doubt that it is north of 90%.
Michael Hill
>she gets pissed off and accuses them of gang-rape around women never relax!
Gabriel Miller
Damn, I like their music. Hope they get justice and the roastie ends up going to jail for false accusations.
Angel Green
Stay out of my state faggot. The Polish are not welcome here. This is just a conspiracy to get your disgusting race out of our beautiful evergreen state
Lucas Mitchell
>they invite her over but don't want to fuck her >she gets pissed off and accuses them of gang-rape Got ANY proof at all these neckbeard weirdos are innocent?
Owen Nelson
Shut up Jamal
Hunter Rogers
stupid Polish trash i hope they get nigger raped in jail
Andrew Fisher
it happened in Washington, the gayest American state she was seen by witnesses coming out of the bus pissed, not in state of shock she's a groupie so she's automatically a whore
Jason Fisher
>guilty until proven innocent
wew lad
Ayden Gomez
Wanna bet it's a femanon?
William Powell
washington here tech nine got accused of rape a week ago here too by a woman who changed her mind a day after that don't come to washington this place is lost pray the kim hits here my body is ready and I've made my peace
Jose Gomez
>polish metal band couldn't rape a bitch
I understand that women like lying about this shit but it could be either way, judging by how hardcore European metal bands are I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of them getting fucked up and passing around a bunch of bitches.
William Bailey
they are are acused of rape by groupie(read whore) because they didn't want to have sex with her, in the USA where holding door for a woman is rape, in the USA where not holding door for a woman is also rape
Easton Gutierrez
Live a degenerate lifestyle, don't be suprised when you get ducked over by other degenerates.
Elijah Perez
>she was seen by witnesses coming out of the bus pissed
Wouldn't getting raped piss you off, too?
Carson Johnson
there's no such thing as femanon women don't belong to imageboards and on Polish imageboards they are simply banned dare they mention the fact they aren't male
everything's possible but they aren't extreme like Mayhem and other shock metal bands it's just another buttmetal band
Jordan Flores
How could she accuse them of gang rape if she wasn't even touched ? Doesn't US police have medical examinations in case of rape ? What the fuck.
Brayden Powell
good. they look like cuck nu-males
Joseph Cruz
she was pissed as in making up plot in her thick mind to accuse them of rape to retaliate for that dishonour
Aaron Jackson
Winds of creation was literally the only relevant album this piece of shit band had. I'd ask you to prove me wrong, but it's impossible.
Jason Fisher
>>be Decapitated what?
James Bell
>not having a voice recorder running 24/7 on your body at all times It's like you're asking for it.
Benjamin Ortiz
see here apparently they need just a few bruises (which she could've made before the incident or shortly after) to be held accountable
Cameron Cruz
Vitek would be rolling in his grave. these guys were child prodigies in metal.
Robert Moore
Fuck off Tyrone.
Landon Stewart
Slav-subhuman weirdos... they look like they would have to be rapists just to get sex at all, Anyone with dreadlocks needs jailed anyway.
Ethan Cox
after the past few weeks i will get the dave chappelle love contract i think. fuck this shit.
Ayden Martinez
Winds of creation is not buttmetal, they became buttmetal more recently.
Xavier Turner
What do you look like then, nigger
Luis Edwards
It's the band.
Alexander Collins
Decapitated were (are) all conservatorium of music students. they are metal nerds, not scene nutcases. i bet this shit is total bullshit. I was obsessed with Vitek, their old drummer who died in a car crash. I met them once in Australia and they were fucking nice as hell man. not weirdos.
Dylan Campbell
LISTEN AND BELIEVE. It's all just getting worse and worse here since Harvey Weinstein. The feminists are having a field day. One more nail in our coffin.
Jace Russell
>apparently they need just a few bruises I meant DNA traces in her vagina or mouth, semen if you prefer. Also a doctor can see if he woman was forced by the look of her genitals. This is not fair if just the fact there are 2 girls to testify doesn't require physical evidence. Any 2 women could accuse men and have them jailed. Also what the fuck "rape shield". This is just insane.
Julian Morris
fuck ausanon. you are so wrong. I think this is arguably the best death metal track of all time after winds: youtube.com/watch?v=3G1S-YBtbx4
Christopher Kelly
i bet the woman that Ted Bundy killed would say he was a nice guy too
Nathan Nguyen
sounds like she was asking for it, like all rape victims.
Jose Lopez
Welcome to 2017, brother.
Sebastian Rogers
Why would you force poor girl that has been raped to get her vagina checked and DNA traces taken, such victim shaming and blaming! USA really have rape culture but it's rape culture against men. Not women as those femicunts always shout
Joseph Rivera
What other kinds of forensic evidence could be used?
>DNA can be used. Pictures of injuries as well. Bruising can be very powerful evidence; bruising on the wrists, on the arms, in the vaginal area – anything indicative of resistance. I’m sure a rape kit has been done – the results of that could be telling and powerful. >It’s he said vs. she said except you’ve got a lot more shes than you usually do in this situation. You have two women and you have a jury who is going to be predisposed to questioning the integrity of a group of metalheads (the band members). They’re at, I would say, a significantly worse position than a normal defendant would be. The fact that they’re Polish, I don’t know if that really plays one way or the other, but I don’t think it mitigates the situation here.
Wyatt Fisher
he was a sociopath. psych and sociopaths know they have to seem nice to coerce people. being seemingly nice or evil isn't an indicator of whether or not somebody will rape you.
Cameron Taylor
It's 2017 logic and reason are long dead
Brandon Rodriguez
>go to america >talk to cute girl >be accused of rape >woman flirts with you >ask for her number >be accused of rape >woman invites you to her bedroom to fuck her >say yes >have sex >one hour she changes her mind >be accused of rape >pay prostitute for sex >be accused of rape
Owen Brown
There's literally no proof you dumb spastic.
Connor Rogers
>witness didn't call the police while she watched the gang rape in outrage Case closed.
Brandon Martin
hahahaha they are not so edgy now are they?
Liam Parker
>innocent until proven guilty
why the fuck are they cuffed in prison jumpsuits?
Chase Sullivan
Geez I wonder why white birthrates are so low
Ian Hall
In France there is a vaginal examination to see if the girl is forced because rape leaves marks on the vagina. I don't know, in this case it doesn't seem like it's an important matter, the justice is obviously biased. I don't know what they could do about that, maybe try to argue the trial isn't fair.
Jacob White
Just don't stick your dick in crazy and you're good
Christopher Adams
those smart spastics are just trying to keep me down (genius... your age and/or stupidity shows)
Carter Ramirez
Save the good old Britain! Start deporting poles, pajeets and pakis.
Alexander Torres
>be polish >visit usa >go to prison for not wanting to fuck a whale
>be american >get shot >die
>be mexican >migrate to usa >die in a drug war
>be black >be black >die
FREEDOM
Kevin Allen
They are playing the devils music. Suits them well.
James Hernandez
Because the court room is actually a public place, and they're technically still in prison but need to go into the public, so prisoners get cuffed and oftentimes they have the leg shackles too.
Isaiah Morris
If more than one woman says it then it most be true. I'm mean it not like woman have ever ganged up on men for various reason right?
Isaiah Hill
my young cousin let me know this last year after some close calls. but thanks user. the advice still stands as valid
Luis Rodriguez
Get off this board you cuck
Evan Hernandez
they're probably in prison
Parker Nelson
first polański and now this
KTK
Isaiah Watson
Rock is the devils work, it's magical and rad!
Cameron Allen
...
Henry Evans
what if the woman has a big loose mayonnaise jar of a vagina and the rape doesn't leave any marks?
Daniel Butler
Why there're no photos of the bird?
Aiden Rodriguez
FFS I thought it was bad enough that there was some faggot wearing dreadlocks and the Gordon Freeman glasses - but to have 3 members of your band wear those Fred Durst cargo shorts is more proof they would have to rape a woman just to experience what sex was like.
Luis Reed
It's not about being loose, more like microscare, cuts and that sort of thing. Also they take a sample for analysis to look for DNA of the man. I mean, it's the base of rape investigation in France.
Dominic Watson
*not, ffs
Juan Peterson
>I mean, it's the base of rape investigation in France. And any other sane place in this world, but our numbers are thining
Mason Nguyen
>Rock is the devils work, it's not magical and rad!
Jose Bell
What's funny is feminist protest new laws punishing "street harassment" toward women because it will "stigmatize" brown people. Feminist protesting laws supposed to protect women, this is last stage psychosis at this point.
Brayden Reed
...
William Reed
USA is not so sane country.
Charles Howard
>Nihility I honestly don't have an anime image smug enough to convey my opinion of your post.
Joshua Green
"Shortly after leaving the tour bus and driving away, at 12:43 p.m., the friend was pulled over on North Washington Street near West Boone Avenue on suspicion of driving under the influence, according to court documents.
In the back seat of a patrol car, the friend was allowed to use her cellphone to call the other woman, who reported the rape. A state trooper said he couldn’t help without a specific location and proceeded with his DUI investigation."
Here it is... the excuse to get off a DUI! sluts'll do that...
What do you expect them to wear khakis and a polo?
Ryder Morales
>t. Boomer brainlet
James Wood
USA is a place where common sense and logic is twisted in some weird way. Law protects criminals and punishes the victims
Owen Stewart
Case closed.
Kevin Clark
"Metal band" or not - it's 2017, who wears cargo shorts? I can't take these people seriously. Is this what passes for acceptable attire for rock clubs/gigs in Poland?
Elijah Jenkins
>I'm a fan so it's bullshit
There's nothing wrong with enjoying things that people create but it's always a good idea to distance from their personal lives because very often you might learn something that doesn't sit right with you. Just because you like someones work doesn't mean they can't do anything wrong.
Logan Peterson
the song, not the album. the fact you were attempting to discredit my statement with an anime image puts us at a mexican standoff as I respect your opinion as little as you do mine. thankfully music is subjective. thankfully most metalheads are morons without any experience writing or producing music.
Ian Green
Incorrect, I stated there was no anime image powerful enough to convey just how mistaken you are. Why do I get the impression you think arghoslent is a good band?
Samuel Hall
Bundy literally did nothing wrong and all the women he supposedly killed had it coming.
Nathaniel Nelson
im saying its likely to be bullshit. i honestly dont give a fuck about a band mate, just their music. anybody that gets themselves into this position is an absolute moron imo.
Charles Morales
This happened in America dumb ruski.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
They're a metal band and you're complaining that they dress like a metal band.
You're either a woman or a homo.
Henry Brown
>Is this what passes for acceptable attire for rock clubs/gigs in Poland? Nah It has been a long while since I saw someone in cargo pants. Pic rel member of our metal band behemoth
Christopher Adams
never even heard of them. as a drummer, im generally only focused on drums... so Johannes Grossman, decapitated, meshuggah flip my switch most.
Adam Butler
Be a man and be logical about the state of the world and tape all of your encounters with roastie ass bitches. It's as simple as that.
Christopher Young
How does it feel to know your passion is not only easily emulated, but significantly improved by utilising a laptop?
Thomas Morales
Why not both?
Isaiah Murphy
ffs. short shorts or 3/4 lengths perhaps instead? it gets hot on stages, let alone play 200+BPM . what other shorts can a metal musician wear without looking odd? please tell me more fashion faux pas i can avoid...
Jace Allen
Post taste
Brayden Fisher
seems like some bongs care more about their style than what's going on around them
Luke Wood
this decapitated 5/5 dödistä huoria turpaan
Mason Brown
>muh Frooty Loops
Gas youreself, abo
Brandon Martin
Metal fans also used to wear patched flares and hold on to their belt buckles while headbanging. But this was in the 1970s. And that was what the current style was, way back then. Cargo shorts are a fin-de-siecle look, reminiscent of nu-metal's worst excesses, along with those baggy trousers like 2 black postal sacks with zips attached. So my observation that cargo shorts are somewhat dated in 2017 is therefore quite valid.
Joshua Sanchez
>it’s current year guys Just leave and never come back.