This is for all the white people here that find it difficult to believe in Christianity.
I too was an atheist at one point. Would spend hours watching Dawkins and Hitchens destroy people in debates and I felt like logic and reason was on my side.
I mean the bible is ridiculous right? Just a bunch if Jewish nonsense to keep the goy in line. A fairy tale for children right? I had read the bible and found it ludicrous.
I then stumbled upon something that changed my perspective forever, and when I read the bible again my eyes were opened in a way that no redpill could ever open them.
Pol's next project should be answering the question of whether or not white peoples are the chosen and beloved race of God.
It's an coconut razors type situation. If we answer this question we win.
We will either name Christianity as apart of the Aryan religious tradition or as something that is foreign, but we need to ask this question. It's time.
We can deal a huge blow to (((them)))
Luis Wood
Bump
Xavier Cook
Christianity is the true religion and what is written in the New Testament is real.
youtube.com/watch?v=IQmodO2quW0 youtube.com/watch?v=DiYQzOypD9o The videos are long, but they basically come down to this: 1. The chain of custody is sound, the story doesn't change over time. 2. There was stuff in the Bible that was later confirmed by archeology(places, people, chariots on the sea floor of the Red Sea (Moses parting the red sea), snakes used to have legs, etc.) 3. There are even non-believers' accounts of some stuff Jesus did, just from them you can know a lot about Jesus if you piece it all together. 4. The differences between gospels aren't a bad sign, because witnesses rarely agree on stuff. If every eyewitness would say the same thing, it would be very fishy and would mean they probably talked to each other at one point. 5. The apostles died without getting rich, getting a girlfriend or getting power, they all died horribly. There was no point in spreading Christianity if they didn't believe in it. Why would they risk their life if it wasn't true? Why would they risk their life if it was all forged? Why would Paul try to join this new small church? Also the only accounts of Romans getting Christians to change their faith was after the 1st century. No account of eyewitnesses ever changing their story.
>start reading this >Adam in hebrew is Awdawm which means "White Man"
No verification for this anywhere. Take your kikery elsewhere. Christianity must be abandoned if the white race is to wake up.
Jack Morgan
Christians literally believe the world is 6000 years old and evolution is a lie
And what's funny is, you can't debate them. Because it's all based on belief. There is no rational thought process to confront. Evidence doesn't matter, logic doesn't matter, their feels matter.
Most of them were indoctrinated into it as children. If they were born in India they'd be Hindus, if they were born in China they'd be Buddhists.
And the more radical ones are psychotic as fuck. I don't know if you've ever actually talked to a hardcore Christian, but they usually have something very wrong going on in their lives. Their wife divorced them, they lost their job, they're old as fuck and about to die, they have cancer....etc. Broken people clinging to some mystical hope. If you hear them talk about religion, it's fucking psychotic, you almost want to escape the room before they snap. They give off this incredible aura of danger and insanity
Kevin Sanders
read bible's younger brother too
Jacob Cook
I wonder who could be behind this post?
Angel Carter
that is literally answered in the OP's recommended reading if you cared to actually learn something.
Camden Gutierrez
Religion is the opium of the masses.
Caleb Nguyen
I'm willing to bet that's a lie. What's the professors name?
Anthony Baker
>Says the totally unbiased atheist
Connor Hill
>can't back up his claim
Logan Peterson
Lol
Alexander Gomez
Ok mate, you're right, it's all a lie. But if something like that happened, wouldn't it make you think?
I'm not kidding, if you've ever talked to a crazy religious person you feel very unsafe. There is no rational thought behind that glazed stare. There is no convincing them, there is almost no soul inside them (very ironic). All that matters is that book clutched to their chest
Christian White
I'm so tired of fucking christians trying to hijack far-right movements. Yeah, I'm a jewish shill right?
We don't need to marry religion to nationalism; that's what got us in the mess we're in today in the first place.
Luke Gomez
l) The Proof from Motion. We observe motion all around us. Whatever is in motion now was at rest until moved by something else, and that by something else, and so on. But if there were an infinite series of movers, all waiting to be moved by something else, then actual motion could never have got started, and there would be no motion now. But there is motion now. So there must be a First Mover which is itself unmoved. This First Mover we call God.
2) The Proof from Efficient Cause. Everything in the world has its efficient cause--its maker--and that maker has its maker, and so on. The coffee table was made by the carpenter, the carpenter by his or her parents, and on and on. But if there were just an infinite series of such makers, the series could never have got started, and therefore be nothing now. But there is something everything there is! So there must have been a First Maker, that was not itself made, and that First Maker we call God.
Robert Hill
3) The Proof from Necessary vs. Possible Being. Possible, or contingent, beings are those, such as cars and trees and you and I, whose existence is not necessary. For all such beings there is a time before they come to be when they are not yet, and a time after they cease to be when they are no more. If everything were merely possible, there would have been a time, long ago, when nothing had yet come to be. Nothing comes from nothing, so in that case there would be nothing now! But there is something now-the world and everything in it-so there must be at least one necessary being. This Necessary Being we call God.
4) The Proof from Degrees of Perfection. We all evaluate things and people in terms of their being more or less perfectly true, good, noble and so on. We have certain standards of how things and people should be. But we would have no such standards unless there were some being that is perfect in every way, something that is the truest, noblest, and best. That Most Perfect Being we call God.
5) The Proof from Design. As we look at the world around us, and ourselves, we see ample evidence of design--the bird's wing, designed for the purpose of flight; the human ear, designed for the purpose of hearing; the natural environment, designed to support life; and on and on. If there is design, there must be a designer. That Designer we call God
Matthew Wright
>my only argument is a LARP The absolute state of atheism. Btw you have to be 18 for this site.
Angel Gray
Try and stop us faggot. Whine more or whatever.
We see the law of the moral universe written on our hearts, given to us by the creator.
We act on this law and gift.
Nolan Jenkins
is that a response?
You're offering up all these emotional platitudes and feelings-based arguments in support of your illogical religious belief. And yet when I offer my experiences, they are brushed off as unimportant.
I feel like I'm meeting that glazed stare again
Brayden Davis
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Thomas Diaz
You are 100% wrong. The fact that we lost Catholicism in the reformation paved the road for Jews to take over everything. The Catholic Church kept them at bay for 1600+ years.
The Catholic Church was literally the Hollywood of its time, a hypocritical hive of degeneracy. Sure it resisted kikes and sandniggers, but it still destroyed a lot of European culture.
Stop acting like Abrahamic bullshit is the answer.
Landon Martinez
Fuck your experiences user.
This is pol >kicks you into abyss
We don't care about individual experiences.
We care about patterns and Christianity is apart of the European pattern of success and spirituality.
Julian Morris
So in your mind. What unifying force would have been better ? What exactly, specifically did they destroy ?
Anthony Lee
Catholicism conserved European culture. You need to sit down and shut all the way up, boy.
Easton Edwards
what I know, is that there is a great deal of sickness within these religious movements.
The people are not rational. A lot of them are crazy. They reject things which are true and embrace things that are lies, without any thought or debate. There is abuse and indoctrination of children (circumcision, pedophilia), and even a lot of profiteering. Just look at the faces of some of these TV preachers, they are slippery and slimy as hell. Making grandiose pronouncements and doomsday prophecies from he pulpit in a $60 million megachurch.
Joshua Harris
I've been blessed enough to have experienced Christianity, and don't have to rely on faith for certain aspects. If I were to deny that there's a higher being (who is at least greater than time), I would have to hand over my intelligence.
Yeah, I guess that's why most of the cultures Catholics got their hands on survived to this day, right?
Noah Long
This. The Catholic Church had massive corruption from time to time but even as a non-Catholic, I'm still appreciative of the Catholic faith for all that it has done.
You guys just really need to do something about the massive pedophilia.
Blake Stewart
>>start reading this >>Adam in hebrew is Awdawm which means "White Man" > >No verification for this anywhere. Take your kikery elsewhere. Christianity must be abandoned if the white race is to wake up.
אָדַם Strong's Definitions ʼâdam, aw-dam'; to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:—be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).
So you don't have an answer and are talking out of both sides of your mouth. So please, teach me this history of the Catholic Church that you supposedly know about that I don't.
It's hogwash. You know nothing.
Camden Sanchez
And it works to turn people away from the supernatural, and turn millions of others into docile followers, but if you think you "see" or "understand" anything of any real significance, any absolute truths about the universe using your senses, you're being arrogant or naive.
Jackson Phillips
Christianity can't compete with the new space alien mythology. Also, God sexually assaulted Mary. She felt powerless and had to let him impregnate her with Jesus. Typical God abusing his power to get chicks.
Thomas Gonzalez
(you)
Nathan Davis
The Catholics Church doesn't have a pedophile problem, it has a sodomite problem. The kike media won't tell you that of course.
Logan Anderson
The Church has been taken over by freemason and jewish influence. It's down but it's not out.
This video show immediatly how ridiculous it has become.
Caleb Russell
Catholics aren't Christian
John Richardson
>Catholics aren't Christian Yeah right.. Proof ?
Owen Butler
Who created the concept of paganism? Did you know the word "heathen" meant "not of Jews or gentiles"? What about all the rural Eurpoean peoples who were forced to convert, who instead of having their spoken-down culture preserved in text, had it erased?
Kill yourself you larping faggot.
John Torres
You were never an atheist. You were just another poser looking for a group to confide in. I doubt you're even really a Christian at heart. It's just easier to live in a bubble of assurance rather than face the unknown.
Easton Cruz
man, sometimes you really fuckin twist your shit up, Sup Forums. The confirmation bias is insane.
How can you sit here and talk all this shit about white genocide and the zionist conspiracy, and then say Christianity is somehow the white religion? It's by Jews, about a Jew, who was born in Israel, and sure as fuck wasn't white. But I guess it's okay because he was the least Jewish of all the Jews and got Jew-BTFO'd for 30 pieces of silver, so that's what it takes to be the official religion of the white man? Get fucked over and sold out by Jews? Well shit, when you put it that way, it almost makes sense.
Then you get into all this radical bullshit literal-bible theory with flat Earth and the planet only being 6 thousand years old or some shit, and all this unreasonable Noah's Ark crap that just flies in the face of modern science, and yet you still want modern science to step in and provide nukes, aircraft, and all the industrial tech we'll need to remain world leaders. How are flat earthers gonna fight off the globalist takeover of the West, by pushing them off the edge of the map? You don't get to be the top culture in the world by burning scientists as witches.
Then at last, we come to "our guy" President Trump, who whether you agree with his policies or not, or think he's a cuck or not, has inarguably broken every Commandment in the book short of murder and is deep in the pocket of the Wall Street Jew.
But that's all okay as long as you can still jack off to a picture of White Jesus, right?
Why don't you get your values and moral compass from your own rational thought and work ethic instead of a fan fiction about a snuffed carpenter?
>Not an atheist. >Actually a baptized Catholic.
Wyatt Brooks
from /leftypol/
Gavin Carter
I was once an atheist and now I'm adhering to Judaism :^)
Nathan Morales
None of that is actually "proof" at all though. Proof is evidence that has been tested and verified. Do you not know about basic testing methods that most learn in primary school?
Julian Price
Here's what you Christians don't understand; any non-bloodbound organization that you create, the jew will destroy it.
Catholicism, Hollywood, The U.S. Government.
It's not a matter of "getting soft" on kikes, it's a matter of not giving them an opportunity in the first place. Religion sets the bar too low for who should be allowed to play ball. This is why all western religions became extensions of zionism.
Leo Cruz
BS- Justin Martyr, one of the most important of the Church Fathers was a pagan and a gentile.
"Justin Martyr was born at Flavia Neapolis (today Nablus) in Samaria into a pagan family, and defined himself as a Gentile"
You can blame Rome and overzealous priests for forced conversions. It has always been the rule of the church that conversion NOT be forced.
"It is absolutely necessary that conversion should come about by free choice, since no man can believe unless he be willing. . . . That faith without which it is impossible to please God must be the perfectly free homage of intellect and will." Pope Pius XII
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis For We make the law that no Christian compel them, unwilling or refusing, by violence to come to baptism. But, if any one of them should spontaneously, and for the sake of the faith, fly to the Christians, once his choice has become evident, let him be made a Christian without any calumny. Indeed, he is not considered to possess the true faith of Christianity who is not recognized to have come to Christian baptism, not spontaneously, but unwillingly.
Pope Alexander III (1159-1181)
Caleb Allen
Christian isn't exactly what kikes want, but it is preferable to nationalism. Christianity is cucked. Turn the other cheek. Don't make money cause camel eye of needle bla bla. Forgive them father they know not what they do. 7 times 7 You get the gist.
It's cause christians don't fucking stand up for themselves that we are in this mess in the first place.
Angel Hughes
Lol shill
Benjamin Torres
I know they don't consider themselves Christians. They only see themselves as Catholics and that Christians are wrong in their beliefs. This is what my mom believes.
Tyler Rogers
>my mom hahahhahahah
Blake Wilson
What's funny about that?
Jayden Lopez
I could blame them, but that doesn't get to the root of the problem; the worst parts of human nature aided and abetted by fundamentalist-bred piety.
You claim that Catholicism preserved European culture; can you name these cultures?
Nathaniel Perry
>don't consider themselves Christians
The word you're looking for is protestants. Both Catholics and Protestants are strains of Christianity.
Jonathan Smith
Does your Mom also believe that Israel is chosen by God and it's your duty as heret... I mean Christians to protect and support them?
Jack Scott
That's because every other sect of Christianity came about as a result of a deviation from the Catholic church over the belief of a core principle, or falling out due to corruption in the church.
That's why Martin Luther left, and how Lutheranism came about.
Catholicism is Christ Cola Classic and Christianity are the assorted low calorie or vanilla or lime versions. Doesn't make em wrong, it's just a change of flavor.
Eli Morales
I agree with you. I don't understand it myself, but Catholics that I know see Christians as a separate group. She's Catholic, so she believes whatever they believe in.
Luke Powell
Sorry your mom doesn't make magisterium
Catholics define “Christian” as any person who is baptized and who has faith in Jesus Christ. Insofar as this goes, most Christians from every denomination would agree. This definition of “Christian” is a baseline. It’s the foundation.
Why do Baptists, Pentecostals, United, Methodist, or even nondenominational communities use those words and not simply say Christian?
Juan Bennett
>So where did our universe come from? >Well user there was something called the big bang. >But what was before the big bang? >Well user most theories point to our universe being part of a larger multiverse made up of many universes. >But who created the multiverse? >Well user it's always been there in one stage or another. >But how can something exist if it wasn't created? >Ok user, who created God then? >No one, God is eternal and always existed.
>Catholics define “Christian” as any person who is baptized and who has faith in Jesus Christ. Maybe it has to do with Mexican Catholic beliefs which have traditions that are not true to the church.
Camden Hughes
Christians aren't white.
Jacob Foster
I'd like to add that you could probably make the argument that time didn't always exist and thus causal relationships aren't always required. They say it about god, it's just as possible for one of these other universes or whatever the multiverse might be contained in.
Ryan Stewart
what is not you cant argue with my mom told me what kind of human in currentyear stops his knowledge at mymom and has the courage to parade it around
Robert Nguyen
>b-b-but its j-just a m-metaphor!
Please fuck off already with your dead jew on a stick religion of self-hate and guilt.
Adam Rivera
>Catholics define..... let me stop you right there
catholics rape children
Juan Davis
Those are the refugees Europe needs to be saving if it were saving refugees. Why is no one standing up for the Christian refugees that are relentlessly persecuted by their Muslim neighbours?
Jayden Rivera
>I have no understanding of context: the post
Leo Allen
It's just a specific example I have. Maybe all Catholics don't separate themselves from Christians, but she was taught to believe Christians are a separate group. Again this might have to do with Mexican Catholicism which has some of its own beliefs. This makes sense why.
Aaron Reed
I followed your link.
>started as a jewish sect >established a welfare state >its champions went around conquering people and then dictating their laws and beliefs
You just btfo yourself.
Cameron Nguyen
>Christians literally believe the world is 6000 years old Some Christians do, some don't. The Bible allows for both possibilities (for those interested, see the etymology of day = yom in Genesis). Nice blanket statement *tip*
>evolution is a lie Believe in micro-evolution, but not macro-evolution (i.e. species changes over time). There is not enough concrete proof for it, such as inter-species evolving humans. It's still very much a theory at this point.
>but m-muh big bang I'm anticipating that this question will be brought up by someone. The Big Bang Theory was first developed by a Christian, and is not deemed an impossibility by Genesis.
Charles Bennett
>Dawkins Still runs and hides and refuses to debate Dr.Kent Hovind. Because Hovind slaughters everyone he debates.
Brody Clark
>Imperial method is only means of proof. >Ignores rationale or logic. Science is limited, it can only explain natural cases. It cannot explain the supernatural or that existing outside of our universe. Science should not be used as the primary means of proving God, it is simply put, incapable.
Adam Rivera
God Exists and he loves you
Jaxon Morales
Not everything needs a cause to happen or exist anyway. William Craig, who most consider the most prominent christian apologist starts all of his premises with "Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existence" which anyone who has taken basic physics or chemistry knows is not true. Things like particle decay don't have a cause, they just happen and exist.
Samuel Wood
Thomas Aquinas also has an argument on this point...
Jonathan Johnson
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Isaac Sanders
>things like particle decay don't have a cause, they just happen and exist. That's ridiculous. Just because we don't no what causes the decay doesn't mean there isn't a yet unknown catalyst.
Also where did the particle come from, before it existed? Something made it exist right ?
Jason Murphy
I have no evidence that you statement is true thus it is dismissed.
Gavin Walker
Oh back when I was a Christian I loved Kent. But naw, Kent is a good debater and that's it. By a good debater, I mean he can make the audience laugh. He is wrong about millions of things he sais. He also cleverly avoids answering questions the other side poses to him that he doesn't have answers for.
Jacob Smith
Which statement?
Kayden Cook
By that logic particle decay is omnipotent
Ethan Jackson
>They give off this incredible aura of danger and insanity Haven't noticed that. Are you easily frightened?
Lucas Thomas
lol, that is actually a clever retort. Well done Templar.
He's saying if this statement: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" is a snake that eats its own tail if you apply it's logic to itself.
Leo Jenkins
>Most of them were indoctrinated into it as children We're all indoctrinated as children.
Jose Martin
Catholicism jibes well with science but ole Francis has a fetish for kissing feet of color.
limiting christianity to just the white race helps (((them)))
Jackson Garcia
Islam is the only way.
Camden Green
>Religion is the opium of the masses. Opiates are the opium of the masses now. Not the best trade-off actually.
Ryder Thomas
There is no cause for particle decay. It just "is". And where do particles come from? They've always existed in one form or another (matter/energy). Isn't that what you say about your God?
