Neon Genesis Evangelion

Just finished this supposed 'Masterpiece'. Can anyone eloquently explain the ending?

Yes

Weird, I just finished it today and wrote the ending off as 14 year-olds being angsty and the Angels being defeated.

"Get out into the Big Blue Room, you disgusting hikki otaku!"

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Yes?

Yes.

Watched the season for the first time ever today, Asuka is the only way.

Welp, that was the quickest reply I've seen

I feel that that's literally the whole plot; Angsty teens finding meaning or in the least trying to.

EoE movie aside, if you can't even attempt to construct an interpretation for the events of episodes 25 and 26 of NGE, then you've legitimized the usage of the "(n)deep(n+2)u" meme unironically.

Anno run out of budget, for slightly more adequate ending watch End of Evangelion, it's so beautifully pretentious it would be a shame if you missed it
Also posting the only true best girl in Eva

Must I watch EoE in order to attain a fully comprehensive conclusion? I feel as if I am missing something extremely important, especially in Ep.25

Yes. The last two episodes take place in Shinji's mind, EoE shows what's actually happening event wise.

Congratulations!

Asuka is the embodiment of the psychopathic german bitch and it's a shame that she survived

Check Gendo's lines in episode 25. He's telling you what's going on.

I cant recall Gendo saying much in Ep. 25. What did I miss? I don't remember that picture either.

thank you Father!

TV series ending is what's going on in Shinji's mind.
EoE is what is ACTUALLY happening.

I haven't watched EoE yet but does the end of the TV series signify the completion of the Human Instrumentality Project?

That screen shot was taken in episode 25 at 10m 38s in (ADV DVDs)

Gendo's lines
No, It's not that everything returns to nothingness.
It's nothing but returning everything to the beginning.
Nothing but returning things to the mother which
has long since been lost.
All the minds become one mind, obtaining peace forever.
Nothing but that.

O thanks for the clarification. So I'm assuming that 25 outlines the Instrumentality project, whilst 26 shows the completion in perspective of Shinji's mind?

To put it simple:
Shinji went through shit. If you think about it, your father uses you for his selfish plans, the only girl (rei) who develop a strong bond with you is not human (well, she's a clon), your friend (or maybe something more, we don't know) turn to be an angel and you destroy it with your hands. And think in Toji who lost a leg and a hand. So you are traumatized for life but in the end, the BIG lesson of NGE is that although reality can be a bitch you can find happiness if you want it. It's not what happens in life is the way you react that defines you as a person. If you ask me, is a good ending with a great perspective of life. Now watch EOE and tell me what you can learn.

Pretty much, yes.

Yes I figured. Perspective shapes reality and reality changes your perspective, vice versa.
Would you consider the project to be a good thing?

There's a lot to interpretation between the conflicting accounts in the series and in EoE.

If you take the TV ending as Gendo's Good End (and EoE as a separate Shinji Bad End), then the TV version is a good thing, the the movie version, no.

Weird. How would it be a good end for Gendo (tv) and a bad one for Shinji(EoE)? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

The TV series ends up with Gendo re-united with Yui in some astral paradise. The movie ends with Shinji and Asuka abandoned on some devastated beach.

Yes and no. You can understand eps 25 and 26 on their own just fine. They really are that simple. "Live your life and don't be afraid of getting hurt sometimes, you are allowed to try to be happy."

The director was a pretentious fuck who wanted to push the point that the plot and supporting characters were meaningless in the face of Shinji's character development from introverted beta faggot to socially awkward faggot. Read Sadamoto's manga if you want a more coherent experience.

>and then they cried like little bitches when she smiled
True

Every human has their souls taken and turned into a vast ocean of LCL. It's hard to say exactly what this is, but it's kind of implied that everyone is content in this state and one can interact with the spirits of people they knew, ie old man Ikari wants his waifu back. But then Seele is going to be a sort of upper class/uber being within the LCL? Or at least they think so.

Because he started the whole thing/was friends with Rei/whatever, Shinji was able to turn down the 'offer' to become a part of instrumentality. This caused Unit 01 to stop powering the anti-AT field and then all the spirits go back to their bodies, and then everything is okay again? I think?

As to why he chokes out Asuka, it's up 2 U. I personally think it's because she said she'd rather die than be with him, and he didn't want none of that bitch's nonsense. It's the first affirmative action he takes in the entire damn series. Also he's probably been alone for years because LCL keeps you alive and ageless forever or something.

What you don't understand is Tv ending is what shinji is imagining during third impact as isrumentality is happening. EoE is shinji breaking out of instrumentality and deciding to restart it all as rebuild

NGE is shit.

Those are shinji's projections and ideas of people, not their actual selves/souls. They tell you this in the episode.

They're both good ends for shinji. EoE is more subtle, but it's still a good end.

Which bit of "All the minds become one mind" don't you get?

It may have all been in Shinji's head, but everybody else was holding a party there, and sharing their conceptions of each other.

I always took the movie ending along the lines that Shinji and Asuka were the first people to come out of the primordial ooze because they were the first to want to retain their individuality. This makes sense since they're easily the two most damaged characters in the series and are likely to not mesh as well with the other souls. I believe something was said in EoE along the lines of people being able to choose whether or not they should leave the ooze, and the fact that two people already left seems to hint that more were going to follow (since without EVERYBODY, there is no point in being apart of the goop).

shinji is fucked up.

I always took it as Asuka feeling both sympathy and disgust towards Shinji due to their brief time with a shared conscience. She also would have found out that Shinji sexually abused her while she was comatose, so even though she feels sorry for him and may even love him to some degree, she can't get over the fact that he jerked it while she wasn't awake.

I always thought he chokes her to confirm he's not in instrumentality. Since instrumentality is void of rejection, if he choked Asuka IRL then in his mind she'd reject him (like she does in his mind before he initiated instrumentality). But then instead of rejecting him, she caresses him because she finally understood him and why he didn't hold her due to the merging of souls. This shocks Shinji, and causes him to break down, both because he wasn't expecting it and because it was the first time in a long ass time (outside instrumentality) that someone showed genuine affection for him.

One could also see this as Asuka trying to confirm Shinji is real, or believing she's in instrumentality, and acting opposite to her usual nature towards him to gauge his reaction or to show him how she truly feels. When he breaks down, she realizes it is him and reverts to her typical attitude, and upon realizing this is grossed out that the real Shinji jacked off to her the way he did.

That's what I got from it at least. There may be a few logical leaps here or there, but that's my headcanon.

Are the people Shinji sees during the TV ending actually the souls' of those people, or are they just Shinji's projection of those people? Or is it a little bit of both?

If still after all of what happened in EoE you still call it a Shinji bad-end because he ends up on a devestated beach, then you missed the point of EoE.

Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live. Which is exactly what Shinji gains during instrumentality.

Because instrumentality is every soul as one, I see it as a little bit of both.

Yeah, Yui mouths some platitudes then fucks off to explore the galaxy, leaving her son behind on a screwed up planet.

Yui was the true villain the whole time.

Nice get btw

are gendo and yui the worst parents in all of anime?

There's some competition for the position.

wowow

lol Ive been an user here for a few years, and today, I barely learned that the yotsuba image can be zoomed in for another one. I didn't even know that.

I was like; "user, you trolling? How is yotsuba his best?" And then clicked on it and it was asuka.

Wow... Totally has me fooled. Makes me wonder how many true images I passed up all these years on here... I'll never know...

Oh well... Time to kill myself lol #headdesk

it's the option to upload the image as a spoiler. Every board has their own custom spoiler icon. Sup Forums has yotsuba and /vg/ has a question block and so on. You're cute, don't kill yourself

jeez user you need to experiment more

that said I only just learned the ctrl-s shortcut for spoilering a few weeks ago

serious autism

Yes, but specifically from Shinji's perspective. Instrumentality is supposed to be a different event for each person.

yw

it's been 21 years yet you guys never seem to be able to find an explanation on your own

Just imagine if people that can't figure out Evangelion on their own weren't allowed on this site

It always makes me wonder just how utterly fucked up you have to be to come up with shit like that

Omedetou

Some call it art.

So be it. The fact that such an idea would probably never even occur to me makes it confusing for me.

Bravo Anno

Rei is shit.

RIP

Heh, nice twist on that overused "voice of an angel" compliment

You shouldn't expect anything else from trash like EVA and japan. Seriously Eva is a garbage clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in waifu faggotry and NEUROSIS. The normal user can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The broken, angsty characters all trying their hardest to hide from their mental issues, the SYMBOLISM, peculiar, complex machinery, the whole Freudian faggotry and everything about the Evangelion world fuels their fantasies of being a patrician, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on guilt tripping, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underage retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Hmm

Chill

Fucking disgusting. I've heard he has also stolen from the likes of Lopushansky and even Troell, but never been able to confirm it.

Bump

what are you bumping for nigger

Nothing

Everything

bump lol

It's pasta. very old pasta.

Is EoE kino?

what does kino even mean

Big guys

the budget ran out

It's a Sup Forums meme just ignore it

Art

it's a greek prefix that means "movement" that Sup Forums thinks means good

That is a very long neck.

German cinema

Just Kaworu being Kaworu

>alolan kaworu

>yui
she protected the kid. Gendo still shitiest dad tho

kek

> Yui
> Protected

Yui:
> Design a master plan for Armageddon along with SEELE
> Take your kid at 4 years as a spectator to an experiment which for all intents and purposes removes you from his life, arguably knowing this is exactly what will happen
> Call it the glorious future you're giving him
> Only wake up from bakelite after your son's teammate has been eaten alive
> Start armageddon and place the burden of responsibility on your mentally crushed son's shoulders
> Bail out to float in space for all eternity because reasons, lol while son is left to fend for himself in a barren wasteland of earth

Don't get me wrong, Gendo isn't getting any Father of the year awards, but you do seem to have a rather interesting definition of "protection" right there...

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No, it's up to you to interpret the ending. Each time you watch it, there is something new to catch, some detail that you never noticed before that makes you rethink the ending altogether. The ending can be literally explained, as in somebody can literally explain each scene, but then you're missing the point. Although it may have been the ramblings of a madman tripping on antidepressants, the fact of the matter is he made something unique and beautiful with complex themes ranging from sexual insecurities to acceptance of death. The themes and ideas cannot be spoon fed to you, you have to watch it multiple times and find something new to think about.

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This has copypasta potential

No it doesn't, fuck you.

This post is something else. Eternal summer is real.

No. Unless you are like a little baby who needs things spoonfed to you, the show ending is fine. But why wouldn't you watch it?

It's good.

lol Ive been an user here for a few years, and today, I barely learned that this post can be used to make fun of another one. I didn't even know that.

I was like; "user, you trolling? How does it not have pasta potential?" And then copied and pasted it.

Wow... Totally has me fooled. Makes me wonder how many true pastas I passed up all these years on here... I'll never know...

Oh well... Time to kill myself lol #headdesk

Can I see only End of Evangelion or I won't understand what's going on?

What should I watch before End of Evangelion to understand what's going on?

End of Eva is an alternate version of the last two episodes. The action is still cool to watch but you won't understand the plot at all without at least watching the more important episodes from the show.

Preferably watch the entire show before EoE, and then never ever watch the rebuilds.

you should watch the 26 episodes of the series before the movie. if you watch the movie you won't know what's going on. some of the later episodes have director's cut versions, try to watch those to make sure you get everything.

Watch the whole original Neon Genesis Evangelion series with the directors cut episodes (20-24). After you've seen that watch EoE. Don't watch EoE now since you won't understand shit and you'll regret it if you watch NGE later anyways. Oh and the rebuilds are aight but watch them after the original work

End of Evangelion is the finale movie to the 26 episode series, Neon Genesis Evangelion.