An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before...

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class
That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer*
The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on the following plan : All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that communism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

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That shit is true.
I rent out two rooms in my home that share a joint bathroom.

When there is one person in one room, the bathroom gets cleaned. When both rooms are rented and two people share the bathroom, it is always dirty and neither will clean it.

Pretty crazy.

nice

That wasn't real grades socialism.
Real grades socialism has never been tried.

>then some edgy cunt screeched thats not real communism and socialism is totes something different althouth faggots conflate it all the time anyways and comunism has never been tried and works best and everything was awesome in the U.S.S.R. until it collapsed because capitalist black magic

Nice story to red pill normies. Can also make for a good bedtime story for 3 year olds, its that easy to understand. Thanks OP

Say no to the comunist

>that professor's name? Albert Einstein

That's not how socialism works you stupid motherfucker.

Marx refuted such notions pretty effectively in his works also citing ambition and greed as a root cause of societal discord. That teacher's argument is knavishly simplistic.

That's because there's probably a dispute as to when each person should take up the chore and you're not mediating it because you're just a static landowning leech living off their revenue, kys.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you have a problem with at minimum one of your parents, if you even know who your father is, and are probably doing drugs.

You considering anything Marx wrote to be if any value.
You being this stupid.

You're proof that scummy opportunists only care about their own vile existence and should be gulaged for the good of society.

Such an argument.

Sounds like commie Poland who no one gave a shit at the end. People just wanted to steal as much as possible for themselves and no one put any effort into their work because why should they when some garbage man is paid the same as a doctor?

>That's because there's probably a dispute as to when each person should take up the chore and you're not mediating it because you're just a static landowning leech living off their revenue, kys.
That dispute only arises because one person does more and the other one tries to get a free ride. Aka communism.

Well he's intellectually well above to the majority who believe in a invisible hand of the market to fix all their shit for them.
Freedom also means the freedom to limit the freedom of others.

We are basically living off the backs of developing countries.

Right. Socialism applies this shitty ideology to every inch of your life. Not only to grades in one class.

>You're proof that scummy opportunists only care about their own vile existence and should be gulaged for the good of society.
Why should I care about lazy degenerate people I have no connection to? What gives you and your comrades the right to take from me and give it to useless subhumans? Fuck off and try your shit with 3rd worlder subhumans who have a low enough IQ to believe you.

>Freedom also means the freedom to limit the freedom of others.
Shareblue pls go

This is Egalitarianism you nigger.
This ain't the same totalitarian crap even if they often come in pair

So? In nature there is always winners and losers. You say that as if it's a bad thing. Developing countries need to up their game or continue to be used.

that professor's name? albert einstein.

It's probably no coincidence that collectivism is difficult with fickle cathlicucks around. It's easier to jump ship and say "danke Deutschland" then fly over to the states and get hitched with a billionaire magnate future president.

Bunch of nonsense

Society has a right to take from you if the government of unregulated or more accurately skewedly regulated state allows scummy opportunists to appropriate crucial human necessities and squander their gains on their own petty ventures while doing contributing as little to the maintenance of their community as possible.
>Why should I care about lazy degenerate people I have no connection to?
But you care about their rent though.

Nah more like any average conventional society where people are born and kept perpetually rich and poor.

Well m8 this btfod communist theory,but as someone who has lived in a communist country this is not how it worked,or the reason it colapsed....
Communism works alot different in reality than on paper.

>>Marx refuted such notions pretty effectively in his works also citing ambition and greed as a root cause of societal discord. That teacher's argument is knavishly simplistic.

> observable results don't count

Well, true modern socialism doesn't work like that. First you have another profits than money. Social acceptance or prestige for example. Second, you have empathy and you know that there is plenty of people who just can't work - they are handicap, sick and so on. So, if your country is doing well, you want to pay taxes to help the others. Sweden still works that way.

This is a pretty weak argument against communism. Too much "muh feelings" and shit that never happened.

Socialism is bad because it puts to much power on a centralized government, like fascism and your run of the mill authoritarian government. Please don't use "muh feelings" or shitty anecdotes as an argument, makes you look as bad as your typical commie SJW.

Tell me one communist country that is not a shit hole?

Kys commie fag, learn math

Name one lowly regulated economy that isn't a shithole.
Hardmode: No Anglic countries or any places with their involvement.

Kek
Underrated

A liberal muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx, a known atheist

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!”

At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States stood up and held up a rock.

”How old is this rock, pinhead?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied “4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian”

”Wrong. It’s been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real… then it should be an animal now”

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. The same tears liberals cry for the “poor” (who today live in such luxury that most own refrigerators) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from the deserving job creators. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, DeShawn Washington, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist liberal professor. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had petitioned against them!

The students applauded and all registered Republican that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named “Small Government” flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and enacted a flat tax rate across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity

Let's try it in America. I really don't give a fuck anymore. Also when it fails many people will starve worldwide.

>should be gulaged for the good of society

And this, kid, is communism

Oh? So if you want to establish communism, but i wont give up my hard earned private property, who will enforce your desire to redistribute my wealth, when there is no almighty gubbermint?
You and your cuck friends?

Pirate flag. The poor thing is retarded.

Nice fairytale, lolbert.

Socialism is precisely people being scored based on their personal perormance. Capitalism, on the other hand, is when a parent or some distant relative manages to score well (due to cheating and personal favoritism), which makes all his children aslo score well and don't actually have to do any tests or assignments. While a person that doesn't have this privilege, gets to do assignments and tests for the whole class, and get their score penalised. Now THAT is a correct analogy.

Is this a forward from grandma's Facebook? What an absolutely retarded understanding of what socialism even is.

The classroom setting can't even be logically compared to a system of resource allocation, since grades are an abstract concept that come from a single arbiter, the professor, who can in effect create or take away value at will.

>Give me an example of successful capitalism without using the best examples for successful capitalism
1. Fuck you
2. The united states of amercia before the jews established the fed.
3. Commies btfo again.

>Implying people don't judge you for your flag instead of your arguments.

>everyone who succeeds is a cheater
the fundamental idea behind socialism, also known as the politics of resentment

Just point out that Real Socialism and Real Communism have been tried, many times... and it always turns out the same way.

Just because it has never been successfully implemented, it doesn't mean it hasn't been tried.

The lesson is that it cannot be successfully implemented and that any attempt will ultimately end in failure.

But the same abstract defines a persons income and job profile?

And what jobs do the people who get low marks get?

Although Marx's conclusions are rubbish (mainly due to overreliance on the labour theory of value) he did devise a new way of looking at things which is of some value to economists.

Hypocrisy thy tool is brainwashing the foolish.

Implying cronies don't scream socialist if any mention of tax or regulation is made like sjw's who yell rape.
Implying most of the crusading against regulatory policies isn't financed by a small cabal of crooks and not your mom and pop business owners.

Why don't you try flying then, maybe you will be the first person to do it successfully.

Forget about the previous failures and theories backing up that you cant

Central planning kills innovation. Communism is a child's dream. Everything is fair and equal and we all lived happily ever after.

>everyone who succeeds is a cheater
>the fundamental idea behind socialism
Bullshit.

>Capitalism is aristocratic:
the powerful and the elite still let their children to inherit their power and status. Socialism is when every child is born to equal opportunities and resources, and may only use his personal efforts and talents to succeed.

>It is insane:
Capitalist system makes it so that accumulation and multiplication of Capital is its' sole goal. It will completely ignore any other goals, concerns and considerations, and it will stop at nothing if that means advancing the latter.

Cancer cells also grow for the sake of it.

>implying the holohoax even happened.

People believe what Marx said like gospel it's insane.. think for yourself a bit you fucking mongrel.

That professor's name? Albert Einstein

Well then show me a single sweatshop worker become a millionaire in china?

I’ll take “Bullshit That Never Happened” for 500 Alex.

>What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society -- after the deductions have been made -- exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. […] He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.
>The right of the producers is PROPORTIONAL to the labor they supply; the equality consists in the fact that measurement is made with an EQUAL STANDARD, labor.

You should read Dr. Mary's monkey.

>due to cheating and personal favoritism),
>anyone who does well cheated

God I wish I could put a face on you retarded commies. Just to fucking know if I'm really dealing with an autist or what.

I think its Nixon

Quite hypothetical. Nevertheless there are schools that get marked in this manner by average on their tests. The higher the marks the higher average.

Now lets do ancap: the students dont do any exams since they get treaded by the education institution. In the ancap system, students select the easiest exam and due to "market" they head towards examless schools. Eventually settling on a binary system of Pass/Fail. Some students get upset that there its not an accurate representation and too simplistic and they would like be challenged.

>that there can be no favoritism in communism
> all rich chinese started working in sweatshops

There is a reason that theory and practicality are different

HawHaw you're retarded.
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This is what happens when they try swindling their fellow Han.
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Good insight into how commies think when you talk about the free market.

They are a genetic powerhouse of losers who think anyone who was successful must have cheated despite the data and real life experiences people have because they themselves are failures.

I think you answered the wrong post, buddy.

Yeah its students who kill the teacher tell everybody communism/socialism is still the plan but keep the good grades for themselves, while they tell everybody who were given the bad grades to study harder

Socialist, marxists, leftists, communists.
All of you demonstrate your utter failure in understanding the real world. You suckle on Karl's teet because you're bought a lie that this was science. That it was a guarantee. Paradise was around the corner right after a revolution.
There is a reason why socialism, etc. is for idiots. It is fallacy and denial. The amount of ignorance required to buy into and stay in the Marx narrative is murderously apparent. Just glad that Marxist these days are also anti-gun. Otherwise we'd have idiot college students running around killing hard working people.

I spent a week whittling wood to make a few wooden spoons, is my labour there worth as much as my normal labour?

The fact is that value is subjective, and only meaningfully determined by exchange.

The world is brutal and the only way to control greed is to make a system that encourages it. Communism and socialism take from the brightest and say it's everybody's, but the best and brightest are driven and greedy

Not really was implying that though communism sounds very nice in theory, the practicality of it is impossible

This is just unfounded stupidity washed in a sea of bullshit

>I spent a week whittling wood to make a few wooden spoons, is my labour there worth as much as my normal labour?
What you should be entitled to depending on your concrete labour is for the council to decide.

>The fact is that value is subjective
No.

> and only meaningfully determined by exchange.
Yes. It is in fact an aspect of exchange itself. Which is why there won't be any value in communism.

>Communism and socialism
USSR being ahead in science

I can't imagine these spoiled little shits under actual Communism. It would be worth it just to watch.

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How would you know? It's blatant in OP that you don't even have an idea of what the theory is.

Found the free rider who thinks he has a killer angle to play.

Ok sure

>says a person who never lived under a communist regime

and that professors name?
Albert Einstein

You have a problem with people that have better morals than you doing better than you.

Hurr durr (((they))) have more money ,a better car, a bigger house they must have cheated hurr durr

in legacy cases (Rothschild) you're correct, but 99% of the time good hard working people are getting fucked by socialist ideals and programs ran into the ground by greedy law makers that fill their coffers with lead by naive idealistic knows better for everybody like yourself

SAGE

t. proof that lazy SJW opportunists only care about their own worthless existence and should be gassed for the good of society

>the government of unregulated or more accurately skewedly regulated state allows scummy opportunists to appropriate crucial human necessities and squander their gains on their own petty ventures while doing contributing as little to the maintenance of their community as possible.
Define this

The only "communist regime" that lasted more than a few weeks was the USSR in the 1920's. Very few people who lived there and then are still around today – if any.

Anyway, you don't need to have live there and then to know the theory, you retard.

>Ambition and Greed are root causes of societal discord
meanwhile Japan is doing just fine

WTF are you talking about?

It's different when you crash a country into the ground over and over and over again

That is how socialism works you dense motherfucker.
And it's why socialism never works. It kills incentive, drive and innovation.

I'm talking about lazy OP making a stupid post about what he thinks socialism is supposed to be (equal pay for everyone).

>MUH EQUALITY HNNNNG

it fuels me with anger when commies use this as the #1 argument for their retarded agenda.
people are not equal, never were and will never be, get over it and KYS

Then where's the proof that it worked retard?

>a rich degenrate jew said this in 18xx and therefore it's true
sure buddy

No more questions, thank you.

The proof that what worked? Wtf are you talking about?

You could of said this all with one word, incentive. The problem is, creating the right incentive. An incentive to benefit the nation and race as a whole. Thus where Fascism comes into play.

>coomunism without coercion
"real communism"
yeah no what would actually happen is that some students would be forced to work hard by an elite council of other students

why do you think people were purged

Actually a true story.
Good post user.

I thought it was a shitty allegory. The funny thing about Communism is it usually leads to an extremely conservative society.