Does american part of the Sup Forums realize, that all that hatred and denial of communism is just a result of long-term exposure to some agressive anti-communism propaganda? And that communism is in fact the best and fastest (and may be the only) way for mankind to go interstellar. It has this urge to control and exploit the nature on a grand scale. And it doesn't have all that things that is wrong with democracy, like nigger-problems, morbid gender issues, war-corporatism, fake economy, monsanta's floral genocide and etc.
Just dont give me that jew-Lenin bullshit, let's talk about late-Stalin type of communism, and a future, where gulag is not needed and starvation is no longer a problem due to the progress of cybernetics, robotics and pedagogics.
Communism is good
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>Marxist-Leninism
>choosing to be the most cuck branch of Communism
Tarkovsky made the best films ever made but they still killed him for being a Christian. That sucks OP. I'm no Christian, nor am I am a Nazi, but if you support poisoning Tarkovsky and his family you can kindly go kill yourself.
It was unfortunate, but each and every country out there has such sad stories.
I wish true communism would get a chance, so all those capitalist pigdogs would learn
Гoтoв пocпopить, вы нe pyccкий.
Königsberg used to be one of the most developed cities in Europe, then it was "liberated" by British bombers and handed over to the Soviets. Fast forward through the communist era, the only thing in the place where Königsberg used to be is a dilapidated military base and a few ting villages of slavsquatters
How about you go die of AIDS.
You went to space while everyone was starbing to death..
eat shit commie faggot fuck
>durr i know our ideology has detroyed every single nation its touched but dirrrr lets try it on the best one durrrre
They just didnt care for that city, had other issues you see, after 1000000000000000 dead and most of the country destroyed. Also the city was nearly destroyed during the war.
Why you think so? Surely i am.
How about you go overweight for life, or go have a random gender swap kuz you are an undereducated and stupid kid. Or maybe all your life is just an endless pursue for the dollar that is not even a real thing? If you dont want to get AIDS, dont do stupid things - its easy.
If you are well fed, your couch is comfy, the color of your TV is satisfying and you got all the clothing colors you can imagine - you are probablly already finished as a true human being, as one doesn't think about such things. The natural power and supremacy comes through suffering and struggle. Maybe it was a bit rough though, but then again - its either slaves from gulag or robots who will bring us the fruits of knowledge and abundance.
We brought education and electricity to most of the countries we touched. If USSR wouldn't collapse - those countries would've prosper. And yea i realize the history knows no 'if'.
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If you can pull it off, that'll be pretty cool. I think you're going to get beat to the interstellar threshold. A society of high central savings must do terrible things to attain the power of a society of high individual savings.
Now if only we could have one of those, you'd really get beat to the interstellar threshold...
You are so used of having a shitty life that you think it is normal
As long as I can keep my property
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SpaceX is going to mars.
Russia was only great while it practiced slave labor.
If i got you right, the power of society of high individual savings is useless, as no good ideology could be planted to the animal-man, bred to consume and possess. And we can witness all of that right now, as noone in the modern "civilized" world nether can nor are willing to do shit about basic things that perverts men and generally degrades humanity.
Yes yes, comrade!
Marxist Communism is not viable for a globalized free trade world, in modern days the most and sometimes only acceptable way of communism is the revisited concept of socialism, which for most pure commies is a right wing ideology, but for most far right wingers is just another flavour of communism.
FULL SPACE COMMUNISM NOW
There is nothing normal in or about human life. All life is in constant tremor and being in search of food, pleasure and constantly avoiding death in search for homeostasis. And this is how everything works. If you don't feel how hard the world actually pushes at you - you are either dead or asleep.
That's my point. Change the slaves to robotic and cybernetic appliances - and then suddenly communism becomes paradise populated with titans.
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For fucks sake mods, do you just sit around eating cheetos?
But I don't want to lose my individuality, which is why I think NatSoc is the better choice overall. The Kike dominated corporatism we have today or any form of communism are both unappealing to me.
Money is an infantile sickness of the society. Communism is not supposed to be viable fo the free globalized market, as this market is an abomination. Why sell and buy if resorces are limiteless and are found everywhere across the universe?
Marxism exists only to tear apart the fabric of society so a Leninist styled dictatorship can sweep in. You're a useful idiot and that's all you'll ever be.
Proxyposters out, sage, etc etc
So if communism didn't turn russia into a shithole, what did?
Lol wassup nigger? In communism you will still live where you live and do shit like you do, cuz there isn't a thing that can be done to make you want anything beyond fulfilling your instincts.
>cuz
I don't buy into nigger speakers
To be individual is easier than to be first in space. Actually you don't have to be anything to be an individual, you don't even have to be, it's just about what you prefer over what you don't. And communism is about making miracles and impossible achivements, for the sake of human spirit. Cuz basically there is nothing more to do out here, except being the pretty mouse who just cleans it's skin all the time.
The spoils of Babylon.
Communism does not work. Its all jewish bullshit
Socialism works to a degree, but only with capitalist undertones.
I don't like communism because I don't like being considered equal to everyone just because we are all humans. I'm better than brain dead retards, I try harder than high school stoner drop outs, and my country is certainly better than all others. Communism is a pipe dream
>It has this urge to control and exploit the nature on a grand scale.
I thought exploitation was bad according to communism?
>let's talk about late-Stalin type of communism
So the kind that collapses in on itself and has already been shown to fail?
Darn, trying to blen in - and failed. You got me niggo, you know better.
you're living in a formerly communist country. Are you enjoying living in your apartment block?
If you will be the first to Alpha Centauri, noone will take you as an equal. But until you do - you are the same shit as everyone else around.
How did it turn Russia into a shithole? What do you think Russia was before?
That's communism for you. Trying to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Sorry fuc boi, but I'm better then you
>Just dont give me that jew-Lenin bullshit, let's talk about late-Stalin type of communism, and a future, where gulag is not needed and starvation is no longer a problem due to the progress of cybernetics, robotics and pedagogics.
Let's better talk about magical realm, filled with feisty catgirls, juicy ara~ara~ and forever pure lolis, all of whom are in love with you, but never irritatingly demanding. As probable and realistic as your cyberrobocommunism, but much nicer.
I remember reading a book about the fall of the Soviet Union.
A child asked his grandmother what it was like before the revolution and she said it was wonderful because you could buy bread and butter whenever you wanted
all fucking commies must fucking hang
>filled with feisty catgirls, juicy ara~ara~ and forever pure lolis, all of whom are in love with you, but never irritatingly demanding
Funny thing is capitalism is actually about to provide those things.
I just enjoy living in general. And i live as i please with noone opressing me or forcing me to any kind of inhumane behaviour. The nature here is outstanding, the society is same old postmodern bullshit as everywhere else, escept for the tolerance - and this is cool, as i am pretty intolerant myself. So i honestly believe that Russia is the best country on earth and that a golden age of communism is nigh.
so you do live in a tower block
>muh breadlines meme
That literally only happened during and after wars and at the last years of USSR as the economy went to shit. For the most years it wasn't nearly like that.
And it's not like average wage in Russian Empire would be enough to buy you butter every day anyway.
total bullshit
>pic related
There was this guy - HRUCHEV. He was real motherfucker, so, just like after Ceasar and August, but much faster, an empire collapsed. The one can call it the human factor. Communism works only with the right kind of management. It can't exist on it's own - it must be taylored with precise. So when Stalin went down - so does the whole of USSR.
So who is going to build the robots?
That long-term exposure to some aggressive anti-communism propaganda, you mean exposure to pro-commie propaganda and all the commie states? No anti-commie propaganda will work against communism more efficient than actual commie states.
implying that communism didn't make your country worse than it already was is beyond retarded
The total exploitation of nature is the main goal of communism. We exploit nature - we get resources - we exploit more nature - we get more resources, yeah, that is living!
So it's literally unsustainable, because the second you get a less than perfect leader it all falls apart, which means that according to basic chance the whole system can't last for longer than a few decades at most.
And this is the true horror, annon. Capitalism will force you into matrix - as it is cheaper than interstellar travel.
>Russians were starving in 1957
Sure sure, go eat a burger and pay your mortrage, slave.
Great argument.
>Russia before communism
>mostly agrarian
>undeveloped
>90% illiterate
>ruled by Germans
>lost war to fucking Japan
>Russia after communism
>rapidly industrialized
>new railways connecting remote parts built in record times
>full 100% literacy and rapid R&D
>ruled mostly by Slavs
>beat the eternal kraut and became a superpower rivaling not just one or two Western countries which was pretty impossible for an empire before (see Crimean War) but the WHOLE more developed West united against it
Sure seems like communism ruined it.
>Tarkovsky
>killed
Uhm, no. He died of terminal lung cancer in France in 1986.
Good slave, work for free
here is a coupon for some bread
I live in a Stalinist tower, and i love it. Its huge and the architecture is fantastic.
Locke explained in depth how exploit nature while keeping your liberty and not exploiting others.
According to you, communism, as an ideology, is just a failed attempt at Lockean liberalism.
Average american after communism.
The robots.
>implying a failing dynasty had nothing to do with it
>implying more Russians weren't killed by the government after the revolution
>implying FULL 100% LITERACY
>implying losing a war to Afghans
>implying collectivized farms
at least they had food
While you're not totally wrong, user, you're too early.
Humanity needs a lot more time before anything close to real communism will ever work. Come check again in 3000 years or so and see if we're still divided on almost every major topic.
post pics
are you trying to imply you live in that huge hotel in Moscow?
What is the point of interstellar travel under communism? What's the point of expanding without purpose?
There are no communist states. Even the North Korea is not a communist state. The USSR was on the way, but it just didn't make it.
Ruski kurwa what is rong wit u.
Didn't ur parents starve enough?
commies can't even feed their own people, fucking losers.
>I-it’s just Capitalist conditioning that is repressing your real thoughts and actions
>We are the intellectual elite that can see through the conditioning, we know the truth, and it is our duty to usurp this capitalist society to instate communism through young revolutionaries and blatant terrorist organizations
These were actual ideas entertained by Marcuse and Foucault in the 1950-1960’s.
All the while every communist nation was a dumpster fire killing their own people, destroying their own culture, and making everyone suffer equally.
You’re so retarded OP.
Yes, but i think the one can fix that by means of cybernetic management implication.
Fuck off I like being rich driving a Porsche and making peasants jealous. KYS NEET
Stalin era aesthetics, culture and propaganda have nothing to do with (((real communism))) and more fitting to be called left-wing fascism.
See this sculpture? If you transport it in Hitler's Berlin and replace hammer and sickle with something natsoc-related, it will fit perfectly. Under real communism it would have probably depicted strong independent transnigger dyke with abhorrent hairdo and ugly kike with giant snout raising dildo and menorah.
So what stops the necessarily intelligent robots from turning on their masters and starting a war? Do you not realize that making utopian space communism work requires the creation of Skynet?
>> T. Cuck who doesn't realize output was grossly falsified to appease superiors and avoid gulag
>the best and fastest way for us to go interstellar
It's also the best and fastest way for humanity to be enslaved.
And they would have been better off in their industrializing if they'd been pure capitalists rather than commies trying to imitate America without the same policies.
>full 100% literacy
Knowing how to read isn't very helpful if all you have to read is communist approved propaganda
I did laugh at you saying they were our equals though. They were a shell of a country who's threat had been overestimated for decades.
>it wasn’t real communism
Classical Communism will never EVER happen.
Marxist-Leninism is the best you can ever hope for because there will never be a grass roots Proletariat uprising.
Instead it will always be led by a strong leader who proceeds to create a dictatorship that then kills its own people.
Don’t be fucking retarded.
Also
Equality isn’t a virtue.
Communism is bad. I lived under it for 30 years. Fuck you slav scum.
The purpose is to reach for the stars and beyond, because it is interesting and revarding. Pretty much like the "...to boldly go where no one has gone before."
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Nod rael gommunism.
You can run you can hide you get helicopter rides
It was just not the right time. In order for the communism to be, the one should begin with rich and technologically advanced society. As i said before - robotics and cybernetics are the cornerstones of the triumph of communism.
commies are just sad that they get bullied by alpha usa.
>because it is interesting and rewarding
If it is interesting and rewarding then it will happen under capitalism. If it doesn't happen under capitalism then that means that the people don't think it is interesting and rewarding.
>implying implications
>>implying FULL 100% LITERACY
Higher than JewSA that's for sure.
>Afghans
That was a proxy war against US and their pet Islamists that now comprise the international terrorism and we've "lost" it much better than US lost Vietnam while killing millions of durkas.
>>implying collectivized farms
Okay?
>at least they had food
Right.
en.wikipedia.org
>And they would have been better off in their industrializing if they'd been pure capitalists rather than commies trying to imitate America without the same policies.
Tried it but it was going very slowly while the country was being sold off to foreigners. I guess being another Western colony would have been better for image, sure.
>Knowing how to read isn't very helpful if all you have to read is communist approved propaganda
I wouldn't expect an ameritard to know anything about Soviet culture since it's probably banned in the land of the free and it's not like you're capable of learning a foreign language anyway.
>They were a shell of a country who's threat had been overestimated for decades.
>we were only pretending to be retarded, honest
nat soc is not individualistic
>going from feudalism straight to communism was the reason it wasn’t communism
If Russia had reached the industrial revolution and become a powerful capitalist nation, the world would be very different today and it likely would have been Maoist China who led the charge to kill their own people.
If Russia had become capitalist, they would never have been communist.
There won’t be an uprising in any current capitalist state.
You will die in an insignificant time period, so enjoy it, while it lasts. And don't forget to serve whoever you are serving. I'd commit suiside if i were to become like you.
The AI dominance is bullshit. Only in video games and movies.
I believe that, Russians commit suicide 30% more per Capita than people in the US.
The humanity is already enslaved, do you like your master so much, you are unable to imagine a world run differently? Does your life has an actual meaning, and are you smart enough to even ask yourself that question?
You need to read The Genealogy of Morals by Nietzsche.
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