CAN WE PLEASE STOP ASSOCIATING WITH THESE MORONS?
SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM ISN'T BAD. SOCIALIST ECONOMIC POLICIES ARE MOSTLY NOT BAD. UNIVERSSAL HEALTHCARE, HIGHER REDISTRUBITION OF INCOME (PROGRESSIVE TAXES), SUBSIDISED EDUCATION ARE GOOD THINGS. Sup Forums CARES MORE ABOUT CULTURE, RACE, SOCIAL POLICY, AND FOREIGN POLICY.
I HATE THESE BOOMER CONSERVATIVES SO DAMN MUCH
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Wrong, socialist policies are fucking awful most of the time, and in a non-racially-homogeneous society such as ours they are fucking idiotic. Only retard Marxists and shills like yourself would think otherwise.
Tell that to Venezuela
>it's another memeflag making a shit thread episode
can we please get rid of the memeflags?
>SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM
>SOCIALISM ISN'T BAD
you're retarded m8
What about Finland that has fifteen year olds way smarter than our retarded population?
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>implying there’s anything wrong with universal healthcare and extremely high tax rates at the multimillion dollar income bracket
Tell me why that’s wrong?
Nice meme...I bet you legitimately get angry at people with opposing views like Tomi Lauren does.
all of those things are bad
Just kill yourself. I hate PJW but Socialism is by far the worst political system ever created. And of course it's Communism. What else would it be?
Asians are smart. get over it.
I bet you wouldn't be such a faggot about if you had a multi-million dollar income
b-but it's not real socialism!!
People are shit, that’s why society sets laws and practices that we all follow.
The super rich hoarding wealth is something we should be actively trying to prevent.
>everybody who supports drumpf is literally a nazi
>SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM HOW STOOPID RE U???
>current year
>caring about naunces
it's the current year, faggot. If we say you're a marxist, you are fucking a marxist.
lol, I can't believe Twitter actually put that up desu. I was reading it and they used a JK Rowling tweet that got 32k retweets. JK Rowling. Probably the most retarted person I have ever seen talk about Politics. I'm not just saying this cause she is a liberal, but she genuinely has the worst political opinions I have ever seen in my life. Like, everything she says is wrong.
yes people are shit. which is why I don't want to give half my money to shitty people that don't deserve it. I'd honestly rather give it to a billionaire than a crackhead, the end result is better
finland isn't socialism, do you even know what socialism and communism mean ? communism is stateless, it has never existed. What you call "comminism" is actually socialism and what you can socialism is social-democracy.
>The super rich hoarding wealth is something we should be actively trying to prevent.
you can do that by offering them products they would be willing to buy, retard
You’re not a billionaire lol stop larping as one.
Let’s say we have a 10% tax rate for incomes under $300,000 and progressively higher, to say 90% at 10M a year.
You and I would have a much lower tax rate, and be able to benefit from services like universal healthcare
>can't read
>expects me to listen to his opinion on economy
Go back to Canada leaf
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Socialism needs a homogeneous society to have any chance of working. Look around, our leaders have been making our nations as unhomogeneous as possible.
Your argument was “hurrr half my money” and I’m saying you won’t be taxed as highly
I see through that swastika, leaf.
If we pull this shit with capitalism we get called nazis gtfo you red fag
Socialism is the ideology for losers
Socialism is the fucking worst. Get the fuck outta here and
SAGE
not only that, it has to be a productive society. it looks great on paper but never plays out in the real world because of the human factor. either you end up with most of the nation taking gibs, taxing the workers to death (which is the most common result), or you end up with the leader cracking down becoming "fascist" forcing everyone to work, which ends up with a workers revolt or war
Socialism subsidizes single motherhood, it's the source of all of our problems, you fucking brainlet.
Whats the difference between socialism and communism? Socialism feels like communism light to me.
If you try to tax a multi-millionaire too much, he'll evade the tax. If he's not confident he can evade the heavy tax, he'll take his money and his business (and his tax) elsewhere.
If you drive out all the rich and remove incentives to become rich, your economy will shit the bed pretty quick. There will always be rich people in societies of western countries general prosperity and size, and they will be always be essential to a successful economy under these conditions. We need a class of super-talented, extremely hard-working people to make most of the stuff. They are always motivated by financial success. Take that motivation out of your society and you lose so much productivity that the economy goes under.
There is absolutely NO fundamental difference between socialism and communism.
Communism: The state openly owns all the land and machinery and whatever else it fancies.
Socialism: The state pretends the workers own the land and machinery etc.
>If you try to tax a multi-millionaire too much, he'll evade the tax. If he's not confident he can evade the heavy tax, he'll take his money and his business (and his tax) elsewhere.
Explain California, among the highest taxed of states in America yet there are a staggering amount of billionaires.
Also if you close loopholes and raise tax rates everywhere, there’s nowhere for these rich to run to. God forbid they pay their employees more or provide more benefits if their businesses are SO successful they simply can’t stop making money.
This is the best leaf comment I have ever seen. I will never talk shit about your country again.
You speak true words
I paid 38% last year. if we had socialized healthcare then it'd be half my money. why should someone lose 90% of their money just because they made smart choices in life? that's how you create a mediocre society. why work harder if you won't keep what you earned as a reward? I agree there is a problem with the ultra rich not being taxed enough. but it's because they actually avoid paying the taxes they're supposed to. I know people far better off than me who pay barely anything in taxes thanks to their accountants. if it's about being fair then wouldn't a flat tax be more fair? everyone paying the same percentage of what they earn?
Progressives hate poor people
but the definition of socialism is literally community ownership of everything.
Calling public services "socialist" is just propaganda.
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socialism is what makes communism bad you fucking retard. communism is an unrealistic and wrong theory about humans and society and socialism is the fitting economy politics
>and I’m saying you won’t be taxed as highly
this is what they say and then suddenly 60% of your paycheck goes to taxes. I make
In socialsim you work for state under threat of execution. In communism you supposed to work for state voluntary (so it is bollocks.)
(((SUBSIDIZED EDUCATION)))
Fuck off commie. You're literally the left.
This. "Democratic" AKA International, Socialism is destroying Europe right now.
You mean like you are doing right now?
The top 1% of Californians pay nearly half the income tax in California. If these super-progressive tax fantasies were actually implemented, they would leave, taking the entire economy with them. Currently, that state is doing so well because of Silicon Valley etc. that it's still more profitable for the rich to stay than leave. That top 1% are still getting richer there, income inequality is still rising there. Change that, and watch that economy go bankrupt as the rich all walk to the new best place. High taxes in the USA still means pretty low taxes relative to Europe and Canada by the way.
>close loopholes and raise tax rates everywhere
Everywhere in the world? That's a ludicrous fantasy, which even if it were somehow realised, the party members of this new world government would immediately become the new super-rich, which would probably rule, unchallenged, over some kind of highly inefficient, totalitarian, feudal hell.
>God forbid they pay their employees more
And become uncompetitive, go bankrupt, and now pay their employees nothing? Or they lose the incentive to work so hard that they can make the company function. They now work less hard for the same money, and now nobody is running this massive company (as well), it goes down, fewer jobs.
>if their businesses are SO successful they simply can’t stop making money
Businesses and governments don't have unlimited money that they're not sharing just because they're mean. There is greed and corruption and unfairness, in every system, but wanting to have a government with the power to demand everyone be nice and share? That won't end up with everyone being nice, or sharing.
If you're so mad about wealth redistribution that you think it should be applied to everyone by force, then why don't you redistribute your own wealth voluntarily? USA? You're likely in the top 1% on the planet. If you'd happily revert to the mean to help those with less, then do it voluntarily.
Low quality. Improve your Larping, commie.
Under socialism or communism, the means of production are owned, by definition, by the state.
Under communism there exists no free market as the state sets prices.
Without subtracting the input from the output, one cannot do cost accounting. It cannot be determined if production is more efficient under communism than under capitalism, or if production is more efficient than last week, or if it is even profitable at all, as "profits" are illegal.
You use your money to buy flour, yeast, rent an oven for a day, ect. Why do you do this? To bake bread. Why? Because you have determined and bet that there is a market for bread. You invest $50 and bake 50 loaves. So $1/loaf is your input cost. Your research says people will pay $2 or more for good bread every day, but they'll only pay $0.50/loaf for shitty bread. So, if you bake shitty bread you'll only be able to sell it for $25, half of the cost of production, a loss. But, if you are reasonably sure you can bake great bread, you may invest the time and money to bake 50 loaves and sell them for $100. It cost you $50 to make so your profit is $50, you have doubled your money, pretty good.
But under socialistic conditions, there can never be any cost accounting. That's why there is always bread lines and famines in communist countries, even in breadbaskets like Ukraine and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. Communism is genocide. Socialism and democracy must be opposed as a moral imperative.
Everything that is not a representative democracy is bad....
Everything thing else is 50 shades of “lord of the flies”
No fuck you and fuck socialism
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Good. Use your savings to pay all that shit but if you trike to take mine be prepared to take a bullet you commie piece of shit.
See? This is why I fucking hate you nat-socs.
This.
>SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM ISN'T BAD.
kys dirty commie.
Kill yourself you leftist faggot
>t. trumpcuck who gladly lets "libtard" tax dollars subsidize their schools and roads because his community is too destitute to pay for them themselves
you are a subhuman, hypocritical parasite and deserve to be shot like a dog
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Socialism = more power to government, more power to centralized government. More power to government = more corruption, more injustice, more corporate collusion, less incentive to work hard. so........ Socialism is a lesser form of governments morons are fooled into thinking its a fix all. Lets not forget the nazi's were socialist.
Finland is literally a country of autistic alcoholic anime otakus.
>t. libtard that thinks his money is being spent on roads and schools
Lol sure kid
FUCK YOU COMMIE FAGGOT
and nigger =/= criminal
So much for the tolerant left.
the stated goal of socialism is to bring about communism.
>SOCIALISM ISN'T BAD
subversion masquarading as political ideology to bring about something worse
op you should kys immeadiately
First post is also the best post
you expect someone to make 10mil a year to give 9mil to the government? you're a fucking idiot, they would leave faster than you can say banana island
Socialism IS bad. I don't want to give away half of my income just for retards to give it to subhumans and other things I hate. I'd just about be willing to support these practices if my country wasn't being invaded by pitch black rapists, and if the tax moneys weren't being wasted on retarded SJW projects around the globe.
this guy gets it
Enjoy those unlivable wages cucks!!!!
AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH
>SOCIALIST ECONOMIC POLICIES ARE MOSTLY NOT BAD. UNIVERSSAL HEALTHCARE, HIGHER REDISTRUBITION OF INCOME
Get this thru your head once and for all.
WE DON'T WANT TO PAY YOUR FUCKING WAY!!!
GET A JOB AND PAY YOUR OWN WAY.
INVEST IN YOURSELF!!!
like we don't have enough people living on welfare in the west.. we've tried supporting socialism so much that our currencies have lost 30-50% of their value. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about monetary policy and currency manipulation? Tax/Spend is way easier for people to understand than the business cycle
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hurts the left, just like demsrdarealraycis praegerfags. they do real damage. so let em.
you know this. one step at a time.