What do you think of Crimea annexion?

What do you think of Crimea annexion?
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I like it. It's good for Russian and bad for the Ukraine, which is bad for the EU, which is bad for globalism, which is good for everyone.

I’m taking a graduate class on Russian foreign policy and the professor brought up a good point. Apparently something like 90% of Crimeans wanted to join Russia. I had no idea. Who gives a shit then. Fuck Ukraine.

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I tell you what. Most Crimeans are ethnic Russians and they supported it and they never associated with Ukraine. Crimea tried to split from Ukraine all the way in the 90s, but they couldn't do it on their own and Russia was weak.
Everything else is irrelevant, "legal" or "illegal". USA constantly shits on international law and never bears the consequences. Then why should others comply?

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I think the end of Spheres of Influence (officially at least) has been bad for the world in general. Want lasting peace on earth (at least for 2-3 generations) Divide the world in 3 between the US, Russia, and China. Dont fuck with my sphere and I wont care what you do in yours.

80% of New Mexicans and Californians want to join Mexico. Does that mean Mexico should send unmarked troops and annex the states using a bogus referendum with no international supervision? You realise it was a 90% leave vote since most pro Ukrainians abstained out of fear of violence from Russian secret service.

>ethnic Russians
no such thing

Russia owned Crimea for like 150-200 years until Ukraine got independence in the 90's. Same thing as Hitler retaking German clay.

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I would love to see beanerville try that.

>russia is anti globalism
how stupid can you be?

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When I went to Ukraine with my dad about a year ago to visit family and see my dying grandma, I met and asked strangers about the current state and would they prefer to be with Russia or not. Most gave me a nervous look cause I'm from the US, and I didn't blend in too well, and told me that they would prefer to be with Russia, and all of these Ukraine with EU was a meme... I guess they were wrong.

T. Communist

We have been talking about it for the past 3-4 years, you should know how we feel about it.

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They probably have the numbers to do it legally. And a lot of Americans wouldn't mind seeing California gone.

The point I'm making is Russians move in, breed like cockroaches, drive native population out and scream "muh oppression".

Crimean annexation means Russias not afraid to grab land as long as it has a vatnik population on it. Very likely to see this in 40% Russian Latvia.

I would feel pity for the Ukrainians if they actually put up a fight for it and lost.
My logic is, if they didn't fight for it, they must not have really wanted that piece of land. They can whine and bitch all they want, they ultimately didn't do jack shit when Putin took their chocolate milk.
Not even a Ukrainian funded insurgency in Crimea.
Let the Russians keep it I guess.

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Crimea was given to Ukraine illegally in the 50's
before that it had been Russian since the 1700's

The EU shouldn't meddle with somone's else his backyard. And put nuclear missile launchers on the borders of Russia making the situation even worse then the Cuba crisis. Almost forcing men to join a possible fight at the eastfront.

Unfortunately, that was a bad idea. We are not ready to face consequencies, i.e sanctions.

I bet half of non-russian flags here are actually Prigozhin's Putin-bots

Dissapointed since I wanted and still want that they annex Lugansk & Donetsk Oblasts.

Serb = Russians. Crimea = Croatia. Same orthodox landgrabbing methods.

What's your point?

Yes, that picture is very sad, I feel sad for them, but I can't feel too bad about it because they didn't fight back.
It's pathetic.

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They had the excuse that Crimea was added to Ukraine in 1954. But they have absolutely no excuse for their terrorism in East Ukraine.

Totally illegal. Eventually it will cost Putin's oligarchs $billions of dollars. Putin's successor will cave to global pressure and the sham election nullified. The Ukrainian territory will finally be rescued from the slav-niggers.

Russia cannot take anything from the Baltics. Reason Russians flocked to vote for Russia is the second they joined Russia their paychecks almost tripled while the prices were the same.
You honestly have no idea what a shithole Ukraine is.
Baltics have an average wage that is almost double of that is in Russia. Russians will never abandon their money.
T. Russian born in Estonia

>T. Russian born in Estonia

>shithole Ukraine

Isn't that why they wanted to join the EU in the first place?

>Anyone wanting to join Mexico
You realize there’s a reason people illegally come to the US and not Mexico, correct?

Besides we have the ability to stop annexation through military might. Ukraine has no such ability.

you have to go back to Russia nigger. nobody wants you in Estonia.

The most of the Russian-flaggers here is a Moscow liberal cocksuckers. Maybe even jewish. They are trying to speak for all ethnic Russians, as always. Don't let them fool you.

>MUH MAIDAN FULL OF FASCISTS ! UKRAINIANS MUST BE FREED FROM NAZI OPPRESSION !

Oh wait, that was all Russian-paid propaganda. Too bad, teehee !

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>Slavshit makes fun of slavshit
cry me a river, Mikhailoshka

I was never in Russia, fuckhead. I speak fluent Estonian, served in the army and I don't take any gibs.
I'm more Estonian than the Jukus that left to clean toilets in Germany. You gypsies know that better than anyone

You're a terrorist.

So Russia puts globalism ahead of Russia? Sorry but you're sounding retarded.

>someone is still using my raven edit
Daw.

Why are they so cute and why aren't their dicks in my mouth

>Replace one corrupt regime for another
Ukraine has never been poorer than it is now. Literally Africa tier quality of life, because their Rada fucks them over more than the Russian one did.
Sure, Euromaidan had good intentions, but ultimately it failed miserable and it would have been more profitable to remain Russia's slave.

to me the whole Crimean annexation is just pure proof for a couple of things:

>the EU is unreliable and cannot be trusted even at any level
>NEVER surrender your nuclear capabilities
>NATO did not and will not protect Ukraine despite their willing compliance in forfeiting their nuclear arms

My heart goes to the Ukrainians, they trusted the kiked West to save them from soviet influence and fell because of it.

>Russia is fighting the (((globalist))) by starting a terrorist rebellion against fellow Europeans. 4th Dimension Chess that Putin is playing I guess.

Does my words offend you? Maybe you're one of them.

Again, being poor has nothing to do with terrorists in East Ukraine.

What school? I have serious questions for his or her department head and then for him. He'd better hope he is a US citizen who is squeaky clean.

might makes right

just admit wrnlost this one, do an internationally observed referendum, fedetalize Ukraine and be done with it

can't win em all, and dragging this into a long conflict will only make the taxpayers who are paying for this nonsense even more pissed off

stop the neverending foreign entanglements which leave us WORSE off 80% of the time

If Donetsk and Lughansk were to join Russia right now, their paychecks would quadruple, their quality of life would increase and their broken economies would be fixed in 2 years tops.
Now give me one reason to not fight for Donbass if I am a pisspoor miner who has never spoken Ukranian, seen a Ukranian or even fucking heard Ukranian because I live in a 90% Russian society

You lie.
We are Europeans.

Google the wolfowitz doctrine. Read about how the globalists want all of Russia under their thumb..

Obama impotence. Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, Syria. Putin mopped the floor with Obama. The guy had absolutely no response. Never expected that from an US president.

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But you are lying as well.

Snow Mongols.

Russia began the war in East Ukraine.

Again, it isn't the 1600s. We don't use violence for political ends anymore. That's what you barbaric slavs don't understand.

That is all what you know about others, le 56% face mongrell. Some cliches and nothing else.

My family came from to Russia to US in 1999. There's an old legend in Crimea that Christ was crucified near Yoros castle in Turkey on a hill called 'Joshua's Hill'. That Nazareth was in Crimea, and Christ 'crossed the sea' to Yoros (Jerusalem) where he was killed. They say the word 'Christ' was a corruption of the name 'Komnenos' of the Byzantine king Alexios I Komnenos. This Komnenos had as a mistress a woman named 'Maria' (Mary). On September 11, 1185, he was killed by a mob and hung from two poles, and two roman soldiers took turns piercing him with a spear. All of this over a three-day period (reminiscent of the three-day resurrection). Here is the account of his death:

on September 11, 1185, during his absence from the capital[1] Stephen Hagiochristophorites, his lieutenant, moved to arrest Isaac Angelos, whose loyalty was suspect.[8] Isaac killed Hagiochristophorites and took refuge in the church of Hagia Sophia. He appealed to the populace, and a tumult arose that spread rapidly over the whole city.[1]
When Andronikos arrived he found that Isaac had been proclaimed Emperor.[1] The deposed Emperor attempted to escape in a boat with his wife Agnes and his mistress, but they were captured (though some claim that Andronikos survived and managed to escape to the then-self-proclaimed Kingdom of Cyprus).[1] Isaac handed him over to the city mob and for three days he was exposed to their fury and resentment,[1] remaining for that period tied to a post and beaten. His right hand was cut off, his teeth and hair were pulled out, one of his eyes was gouged out, and, among many other sufferings, boiling water was thrown in his face, punishment probably associated with his handsomeness and life of licentiousness. At last he was led to the Hippodrome of Constantinople and hung by his feet between two pillars. Two Latin soldiers competed as to whose sword would penetrate his body more deeply, and he was, according to the representation of his death, torn apart.

illegal

>We don't use violence for political ends anymore.
>flag
Oh.

Settle down there

Yes, we don't. We went to Iraq after 9/11. What is your excuse for going to Syria?

We also went to Syria after 9/11.

No, you didn't, see 9/11 was related to Israel-Palestine conflict of second intifada. You didn't go during that time.

Consider
>(Corrupt) Ukraine government seeks closer Russian ties instead or European. Russia has massive naval base in Crimea
>CIA backs coup to correct this
>Russia doesn't want to lose one of it's few non frozen shithole naval bases, annexes Crimea
>Obummer, EU cry muh illegal annexation

>Principle of self determination
>90%of Crimeans ethnic Russians and support. Only ones who don't are Tartars who noone cares about and CIA plants.
>Holds referendum, votes to join Russia. International observers cleared to go and despite the usual Russian trickery results are widely seen as pretty reliable.

Then comes sanctions and counter sanctions and whatnot, and threats of Russian natural gas price hikes for Europe in winter etc. Conveniently a month or two after OPEC crashed the oil price and Russia's economy tanked because one trick pony. Ever since Putin has been screaming anti US rhetoric and buying gold to keep the economy afloat and shitting on the US in Syria/UN etc to fuck with them.

So basically the latest chapter of the US/Russia pissing match with collossal miscalculations on both sides, but probably a strategic victory for Russia so far (kept Crimea)

I was pretty happy about it. It was certainly a far more "legitimate" action than the US engineered coup that toppled the legally elected pro soviet guy.

>No, you didn't,
Chronologically, we did.

And it had about as much to do with 9/11 as your invasion of Iraq.

Totally ignore the East Ukrainian Insurgency that began a month later.

It's a bit more complicated than that, mate. Russia is for Westphalian globalism where each sovereign nation acts in it's own self interest cooperating or competing with others as it strikes it's fancy.

Russia is against corporate globalism where sovereignty of the nation state is destroyed and replaced with transnational megacorporate rule as it's happening in the west.

Basically moddern America is as obsessed with capitalism and gives as much fucks about human lives as USSR was with communism.

Putin is actually both anti-capitalist and anti-communist, he is a traditionalist with a focus on patriotism, Think Mussolini minus outright dictatorship with fascism replaced by the Byzantine Symphony for an ideology.

No, you invaded after Bin Laden was killed, Taliban defeated in 2002, etc.

We invaded because (1) 9/11 was done in the name of Palestine and the biggest supporter of Palestine was Saddam. (2) When you get punched, you hit back twice as hard, so we didn't just go for Afghanistan. (3) al-Qaeda was full of Egyptians, but Egypt was our ally.

Russia is a terror state.

No u.

>Putin is actually both anti-capitalist
Well I wouldn't say that. Privatization of Rosneft is hardly an anti-capitalist move.

That's a completely bullshit statistic you retarded mic

Calm down, jewboi

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Not really. Even the Color Revolutions we are accused of creating aren't really terrorism, just reform movements.

The Slav truly is a blockhead.

You can say that you're whiter than me, but it is not true. We're both mixed.
So my asian part tells me to go back to play WoW, and my russian part says that you're faggot.

>you invaded
But we didn't.

>ywn get to watch retarded kids bringing sticks to a gun fight getting pwned plox3d again

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Russia is definitely an Asian country, no regards for individual rights, free speech, mutually peaceful international relations, violence for political ends, theocracy.

>greece
>posting things in russian

God damn ivans are retarded, we know you're using a proxy

The United States is currently bombing multiple countries, I bet you can't even name them Tyrone. But I'll help you out. They're called Syria (a country you have as big of a right to bomb as Russia does aka no right at all), Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Yemen , Somalia and Pakistan.
> Muh ebil Russkies are violent. The coal miners should just submit to Ukraine and be done with it, more peaceful to live in comblocks and earn 100$ a month.
> WE HAD TO BOMB THESE COUNTRIES BECAUSE OF OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS REEE

Ooh dun goofed. Meant to say observers invited but didn't go, so no outside supervision

And yup. 'Cause irrelevant. Part of Russian shenanigans to keep tendrils in Ukraine and keep destabilised, sure, but unrelated to Crimea

You left your more immediate borders for the first time in centuries.

Russia is an expansionist theocracy, much more dangerous than the USSR, the most aggressive thing it did was an invasion of a neighboring country called Afghanistan.

>Dangerous invasion of Afganistan
> What is literally every Soviet invasion before WW2
> American education

We only bombed ISIS in Syria, we never touched the Syrian State. Russia on the other hand is bombing the Syrian revolutionaries, not ISIS.

Libya? That was mostly NATO after Qaddafi began massacring his people with African Mercenaries.

You mention workers rebelling, but the Bolsheviks had the excuse of World War 1.

You guys are uncouth thugs, and for trying to take East Ukraine, you will lose Georgia.

Capitalism is an idology, same as Communism or Fascism.

Putin simply doesn't follow it and the amount of assets Russian state holds is an all out rejection of it.

Also, Rosneft is 50% owned by the sate, 19.5 by brits and 19.5 by hell knows who (Probably arabs) the rest is more or less free float. So the state is still the majority share holder, the "privatisation" was just a bunch of diplomatic bribes that ensured that there was someone to lobby our interests in britain for us, with a similar package going to yet another nation, again probably arabs, tho I have no Idea which ones.

All your "rights" is just a demagogical constructions to hide your jewish interests, nothing in common with the ideas of founders of the country you live. We don't buy it.

I never said it was related to Crimea. Russia used the excuse of Crimea being added to Ukraine in 1954.