Catholic Thread

Catholic Thread

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catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/08/09/now-we-have-real-evidence-–-sexual-abuse-is-not-a-‘catholic-problem’/
catholiceducation.org/en/controversy/common-misconceptions/9-myths-about-priestly-pedophilia.html
awkwardmomentsbible.com/shocking-pastors-on-the-prowl/
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shoebat.com/2014/05/06/sexual-abuse-protestant-churches-catholic/
christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse
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>meme thread

POO POO

>memeflagtard

Die Muslims

>still worshipping the desert kike
retards

Catholics don't worship Jesus, they worship Mary and the Pope.

That picture is a myth.

Catholics don't worship the pope.

nope, kikelover

St. plus X seems better & better all the time

I see it was mostly Argentinians that dies in New York. What is the Company of Jesus up to these days?

No more like this

ftfy

Oops!

So what's the story, Sven? Jews are tricking the Gentiles into believing Jesus was a Jew? Why?

Jesus was a Jew. He was the king of the Jews. He came to his own, and his own received him not. Therefore the Jews have been under the wrath of God for almost 2000 years. Jesus is really harsh about the Jews in the Bible... he calls them vipers, calls them the Synagogue of Satan, says their father is the devil, etc. The Jews failed in their mission all the way from Jakob to the Pharisees -- over and over again they fall away from God and worship pots and pans. Take a guess why Jesus had to go directly to the gentiles to fulfill God's promise? The Jews wouldn't listen.

A nigger from Africa is always a nigger whether he went to non-niggers or not.

Okay, sounds good champ

Thanks :)

Thinking about becoming a Catholic but I'm not sure. Here are the pros and cons as I see them:
Pros
>First church founded by Christ
>Bible is already interpreted for me
>no Protestant nonsense like sola scriptura and "by faith alone", teachings make more sense
>Mass looks cool
>Rich history of philosophy, art, architecture
Cons
>commie Pope ruining the church as we speak
>muh refugees
>for the rest of my life i have to have nighttime emissions and the only escape is to ejaculate inside a vagina
>don't want to tithe as the church is corrupt

Catholics are not Christians

>>commie Pope ruining the church as we speak


The bishop has more power on the church level.

>for the rest of my life i have to have nighttime emissions and the only escape is to ejaculate inside a vagina

Get married.

>don't want to tithe as the church is corrupt

Not really anymore.

>>First church founded by Christ

Wrong. Donations of Constantine are forgeries. Romans killed true Christians because they chose asceticism over worldliness therefore free from taxation and were too popular and literate

grinded down what's left through Nicaean council and later purges.
>Bible is already interpreted for me

And ignores the no idol worship commandment

>no Protestant nonsense

you mean no veiled Romanism

>Rich history of philosophy, art, architecture
yea i'll give you that


pope francis is a jesuit antipope

why does a protestant know more about ecumenical systems than catholics of Vatican 1&2

Sincere question, what the fuck is this?
catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077

Atheists, muslims, and jews go to heaven if they're good? What did he mean by this?

>And ignores the no idol worship commandment
I've heard the catholic counter to this, it's pretty good. Basically it's an idol if you worship it. God commanded the Jews to make graven images and statues many times, he only got pissed when people worshiped the actual idol.
youtube.com/watch?v=-K-I8RPHwTY

>you mean no veiled Romanism
How can you defend the rejection of any oral tradition? Also sola scriptura says you ONLY trust the books legitimized by the roman council of nicea, so you're roman either way.

antipope and false profit. look into jesuits and their history as Jewish conversos

That's his opinion.

>God commanded the Jews to make graven images and statues many times

prove this. I can't think of God demanding the creation of any graven image or idol.

defend the rejection of any oral tradition

I'm defending written scriptures that were edited by Babylonian Pagans, which taught deification of man, which is a status Caesar and the cult of the emporer inherited tthrough Attalus I of Pergamon.

>you're roman either way.

no you aren't, there are many sects of christendom. older than the life long pagan Constantine.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

Are you fucking retarded. A crucial part of Christianity is believing in the holy nature of Mary.

>crucial part of Christianity is believing in the holy
no that's a crucial part of catholicism.

name a passage in the bible requiring worship of jesus's mother.

>Donations of Constantine are forgeries
Correct. The donations were about transferring worldly power from the Byzantine emperor to the pope in Rome. How does that invalidate him (the pope) or his see as part of the Church of Christ?

>Romans killed true Christians because they chose asceticism
Are you referring to the heretical gnostic sect that held that the world (that God Himself created!) was inherently corrupt and evil? And for that reason they were ascetics, because they hated Gods creation?

>And ignores the no idol worship commandment
Yep, Catholics believe Mary is equal to God. Saints are Gods too, even their statues. And prayer does just that, equating dead people to God. Centuries of scholars just skipped over that until Luther came along and pointed it out.

>why does a protestant know more about ecumenical systems than catholics of Vatican 1&2
It is not surprising and I rather expect it since they need to rationalize their 'non serviam' attitude.

Lies. Catholics don't worship Mary or the Pope or the saints. Those are lies made up by Protestants who are threatened by the Catholic Church.

Lies by a Protestant. Catholics are Christians and were Christians many many years before protestantism even existed. Catholics believe in God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit and that Jesus is the only son of God who died on the cross for the sins of the world. We are Christian, and we are "saved".

k
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0

Do you not believe that Mary is the mother of Jesus? If you don't then maybe you aren't a Christian. Believing in the Virgin Birth as it is described in the Bible is not worshipping Mary. I am Catholic and I don't worship Mary.

Fucking retard. At least think just once about the stuff he tries to explain to you. Because shills=>thoughtlessness=>degeneracy

someone's hiding here, who could it be

If the pope and or Catholic Church will forge the decree of a Roman Emperor for worldly power what else do you think they'll lie about. Like being Saint Peters successors..

>heretical gnostic sect
great way to kill your philosophical competitors in the name of Christ. By painting them in the worst view possible and writing the history in a time of limited literacy.

>Catholics believe Mary is equal to God.

this is why they are idol worshipers. Nowhere in the bible is Mary a subject of worship, she is mentioned maybe 30 times. not once proclaimed Queen of Heaven, these are pagan practices.

>I rather expect it since they need to rationalize their 'non serviam' attitude.

no it's so they understand the bullshit that comes out of the vatican like big bang theory.

Catholics did not believe Pagans were idiots that were completely in the dark about divine things. They knew the pagans had some sense of the Truth, but only in a corrupt way and incomplete. The full revelation and perfection came with Christ. Therefor it is not surprising to find these statues. Christianity was to be the perfection of paganism. But the Varg fanboys claim it was about the removal of paganism and protestants claim it was about polluting pure Christianity with dirty paganism. Truth is that we removed the bad and incorporated and baptized the good, e.g. Plato's philosophy. It is no accident that Christ was born into that age and chose His disciples who did that, do not lightly think He made a mistake.

The other user called Mary holy, and he is right, see luke 1:42. Holiness or sanctity is the outcome of sanctification, that Divine act by which God freely justifies us. But you talk about worshiping trying to equate it with holiness.

Now I have a challenge: name a passage in the bible where Christ orders his followers to write a book, or where He wrote something himself. Or where He admired those who were learned in the holy books of that time and exhorted his followers to become bookish followers of rules. But you know He chose illiterate fishermen..

Nobody worships Mary. We honor her and pray/meditate on the life of Jesus through her eyes. I speak of the holy nature of Mary being crucial in Christianity, as a pure women was needed to birth the son of God.

>God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit and that Jesus is the only son of God who died on the cross for the sins of the world. We are Christian, and we are "saved".

so why are they worshiping mary and leave offerings to her image?

Jeremiah 7:18

>Nobody worships Mary

>Catholics don't worship Mary

>Catholics believe Mary is equal to God.


yikes

prove your claim faggot.

My catholic university had transgender day with a clothing swap.

>If the pope and or Catholic Church will forge the decree of a Roman Emperor for worldly power what else do you think they'll lie about
It was a Catholic priest who revealed the truth, what else do you think he'll talk truthfully about? Christianity starts out, literally, showing how man in this condition here is a fallen creature capable of sin and lying. No one Catholic is claiming they are free from sin, not even the best of saints.

Perhaps the forgery was necessary to provide a stable point of reference of worldly authority in the West, which was going through the Dark Ages. The Byzantines couldn't help here, so it was expedient to do so in order to bring stability and peace, same with Charlemange. So he might have lied in order to bring peace and be a peacemaker.

At any rate lying in this manner does not invalidate the legitimacy of a Church, even one of the apostles was caught lying.

>>Catholics believe Mary is equal to God.
I was being sarcastic, but that slipped under the radar. Because it is obviously false that Catholics believe this. You think that we are mistaking her for God, we really don't.

My apologies, I will omit all sarcasm. So I wil retract and now say plainly "Catholics do NOT believe Mary is equal to God." I hope you can follow, my learned user that knows all about the Vatican 1&2.

That poster is clearly not a Catholic dumbfuck.

only catholics are christian, hernandez

A REAL Catholic from the pre Vatican II church:
youtube.com/watch?v=W8ENmfvtDNk

>It was a Catholic priest who revealed the truth,

after several men and women were burned at the stake and killed for stating the same thing about the catholic church over centuries , that they were lying charlatans who charged indulgences and practiced idol worship amongst other charges.

Catholics don't worship Mary,, they honor Her

>Perhaps the forgery was necessary

one true church has to lie to be given validity. poetic

> "Catholics do NOT believe Mary is equal to God."

as long as you don;t idol worship and believe christ is son of god, I see you uas a brother in faith so that's where my argument ends as a protestant. But you gotta do something about your fag enabling antipope.

People were burned for the claim that the Donations were a forgery, is that true? We're still talking about that as an argument for the legitimacy of the Catholic church, right?

>one true church has to lie to be given validity. poetic
I said:
>Perhaps the forgery was necessary to provide a stable point of reference of worldly authority in the West,
I did not claim it was necessary to validate it to be the one true church.

CATHOLICS

ARE NOT

TRUE CHRISTIANS

>honor thy mother and father, call noone on earth your father.

what did the bible mean by this?

when was this made?

>Catholic is the one true church or else we'll burn you and torture you by the thousands.

hmmm

>lying in this manner does not invalidate the legitimacy of a Church

so i'm to believe murdering liars and thieves lying about temporal authority when they say they didn't lie about spiritual authority.

I have to go sleep soon so I won't be able to run after your next goalpost move. We were talking about the legitimacy of the Catholic church as founded by Christ. I'm well aware of its other crimes.

But I guess no one burned for pointing out the Donations of Constantine were a forgery. Its forgery which doesn't prove or disprove the legitimacy of the church, like you claimed.

All it did was to provide the pope with power to ordain kings who stabilized Europe with peace under Christ during the warring Dark Ages. Truly evil.

The main problem with catholicism I have is that some dude who knows nothing about life, never had a wife, kids or a real job, decides whether or not to forgive your sins. And don't start with some holy spirit bullshit, because I know actual people who weren't forgiven by one priest so they went to another and he didn't have a problem.

as a Catholic, how do I justify wanting to keep all niggers and spics out of my country?

Can I just say “we can be equal under god in our own countries” or something like that?

LOO LOO

>cathholics have a long history of murdering and torturing dissenters and objectors to their "truthiness"
>goalpost move.

>We were talking about the legitimacy of the Catholic church as founded by Christ
>just because they lie and murder and practice idol worship doesn't mean they are illegitimate

>literally forging legal documents doesn't prove illegitimatacy, so believe we were founded by christ.

>All it did was to provide the pope with power to ordain kings.

oh and practice capital punishment and kings would have and did exist independent of the church's existence


so what's your stance on the Orthodox or Coptic church?

>Truly evil.
most definitely

> the warring Dark Ages
which coincided with the rise of the political intriguing papacy.

also the dark ages were a gap brought about due to the Julian Calendar which conflicted with other chronologies.

funny how so many holes in history come from a centuries long campaign of adhering the world to a Roman Sun Calendar and the authority of the Roman Pontifex Maximuss( pope)

>>cathholics have a long history of murdering and torturing dissenters and objectors to their "truthiness"
>>goalpost move.

You are dishonest. You claimed here that the forgery of the Donation was an argument against the fact that the Catholic church was founded by Christ. Which was what we were talking about. Not about the other crimes, I know about them. I didn't read the rest, goodnight.

St Thomas warned against trade with foreigners, as it would upset the order of a nation as people love to imitate new and strange customs brought in with traders.

As for immigration I am not sure. It looks like he's only accepting those who want to join the Catholic worship.

Pleas explain to me why I should devote myself to a church filled with Pedophiles.

>You are dishonest.
says the acolyte to a church that forges documents and murders people

>the forgery of the Donation was an argument against the fact that the Catholic church was founded by Christ.

because if your one true church will lie for temporal power why wouldn't they lie about spiritual power. You gullible tard


> I know about all the crimes my one true church commited, let's not talk about them , they don't matter, jesus founded our church end of story.


>I didn't read the rest

kek ,stay sleep faggot

Your country is run by paedophiles

I realize that, doesn't change the fact the Catholic Church is ran by them too.

that crime doesn't matter either long with all the purging, lying, stealing, idol worship, document forging, they're still the legitimate one true church to these people. And mentioning any of it is moving the goalpost.

no shit, but my politicians don't claim to be the one true spiritual authority on earth.

they claim they are the moral authority, nigger, i can't see hows that different.

but you do support a country that was founded by paedophiles

See, this is a big problem for Catholics, because spics are catholic but are have an overwhelmingly deleterious effect on the U.S.

When people talk about church leaders affecting how they view Catholicism I find St. Augustine very helpful. He was in a debate with a man who thought only the morally excellent could be priests. Augustine's response, quickly paraphrased, is that it is the the grace administered during the sacraments and the authority of the doctrinal teaching does not come from the moral excellence of man, but from God.
You have mixed up priorities to deny a 2000 year old institution and its worldview because of its current leaders.

Further, sexual abuse corruption occurs at a far smaller rate in Catholicism than in surrounding groups or even the common rate in that society. It gets shit as it's a large and centralized organization.

prospect.org/article/next-christian-sex-abuse-scandal

themediareport.com/2013/10/02/evangelical-sex-abuse-worse-than-catholic-church/

catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/08/09/now-we-have-real-evidence-–-sexual-abuse-is-not-a-‘catholic-problem’/

catholiceducation.org/en/controversy/common-misconceptions/9-myths-about-priestly-pedophilia.html

awkwardmomentsbible.com/shocking-pastors-on-the-prowl/

themediareport.com/fast-facts/

shoebat.com/2014/05/06/sexual-abuse-protestant-churches-catholic/

christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse

cbsnews.com/news/has-media-ignored-sex-abuse-in-school/

lifesitenews.com/news/forgotten-study-abuse-in-school-100-times-worse-than-by-priests

Further, they have done much to respond:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_response_to_Catholic_sexual_abuse_cases

Wtf i love Catholicism now

Good. First step to reach New Jerusalem.

I actually hate many aspects of this country.

Forgive them because they know no better

>they claim they are the moral authority

they're wrong, like the Catholic church

...

Because it was founded by "judeo-christian" values from the masons.

As you can see, your country now has no salvation. God does not wander by your country.

The Catholic Church is always right. It's Sup Forums IRL, ese

End of the world is coming Papacy id the beast of Revelations

drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EBG5H-a6qKV2dHZDFfeHlTQ0k/view?usp=drivesdk

C*tholic subhumans will defend pedophillia because the C*tholic church revolves around pedophilia because they think that's what gets them into heaven, they also love niggers because they think darkie kids are exotic. Choose Aryan Lutheranism instead and stop the C*tholic subhumans from raping you're children.

Thank you user for a real response, I'll give Catholicism more consideration and research from now on, I'm still undecided on a denomination.

Why would you want to be a C*tholic? Do you want to rape children?

Nice try JIDF

L O L the C*tholic Church literally believes that If you pay the Pope ENOUGH money then you will get to heaven.

I hope you went to mass today for All Saints' Day. Interesting first reading considering the times we are in.

How am I a Jew? You are the Jew! Kikes hijacked Jesus Christs (a German) teachings and created the C*tholic Church. It wasn't until Luther that REAL christianity came back

Lol did you go so you could rape kids?

>worshipping a shitskin kike on a stick

Jesus was a white German

Explain to me how the Catholic church keeps going on and on about how they're the One True Church of St. Peter™, but how can they say that when they're the ones who split off from the rest of the Christian world around the Mediterranean and invented the idea of papacy?

This is now a Lutheranism thread.

She is Maria Auxiliadora de los cristianos ... that statue is from my school in Bolivia :_;

In fact, the Catholics are the real jews. the real God's chosen people. That's why judaists always try to bring us down.

>Jesus Christs (a German)
...

They aren't the true church they hijacked Jesus's teachings and corrupted it for their YIDDISH ways