Am I the only one afraid to even do some searches in google? I've grown up on the internet basically

Am I the only one afraid to even do some searches in google? I've grown up on the internet basically.
its not the same anymore, its boring, everything is a commercial now, google knows who you are where you live and what you search, and it uses this to push products on you.

cant stand this shit anymore.
I dont feel comfortable to search, or today I'l think twice if to leave a certain comment on YouTube lets say.
is this the culture of fear? (best environment for consuming)
we had a window of true real flow of GOOD information and knowledge, people were finally able to connect from other countries, look for weird info on the internet.

now its a just a big commercial in your face all day.

how to solve this?

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dailywire.com/news/19950/google-now-working-liberal-groups-shut-out-joseph-curl
dailywire.com/news/20857/fired-googler-damore-underground-conservative-robert-kraychik
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Don't use jewoogle, don't go to commercial sites, don't use jewtube

normies ruined it, like with everything that is extremely easy to access the general quality will go down fast.
There used to be a shit ton of webpages, but now that the internet giants have established their foothold everyone just visits the same ones which gives those companies massive power.
You can opt out though and will probably find a lot of info on Sup Forums.
Use a non windows/apple OS, don't use google products, use software for anonymous browsing, visit low traffic pages etc.
The mainstream services are the easiest choices, but that doesn't mean that alternatives don't exist.

Try throwing yourself in the oven.

it's not like you mean most of the things you say here, don't be such a fucking newfag

Back in the early 2000's you could search for anything. Now if you think of searching for something, the data is stored for blackmail.

The secret has always been that the sheer number of people googling things they shouldn't was too big to even start bothering. But as fear makes that number go down and down the risk heightens.

I created 2 separate profiles on my laptop so I don't accidentally open porn or something when I'm using it at school.
Google decided to synch my bookmarks, history, form data, etc across those profiles because I use google drive on both my profiles. It didn't tell me or ask me, I just went to go to one of my bookmarks and noticed it was gone.
It's only a matter of time until they connect your entire internet presence to some public profile. It's already there for advertisers and whoever else wants it.
I've had to start using private browsing for everything because I'm too hooked into my browser to bother changing it mid semester. It would be a fucking pain. And firefox runs like shit.
I don't have the patience to go out of my way to avoid all their data collection rape.

Proof?

Use tails + tor

>now its a just a big commercial in your face all day.
So what exactly made it impossible for you to use adblock?

He's talking out of his ass. It's honestly arrogant to think you are so important that someone like Google would fucking blackmail you. They are literally the most powerful company in the world.

t. Sergey Brin

search results are still entirely paid for and adblock does nothing about them.
Used to be you'd get like 5-7 ads and then what you were searching for. Now it's pages and pages of ads and "keyword content."

Just don't put your real I'd anywhere online. If you do that you will be fine, at least for the moment

>Google

Not google, but lefties.

>Says here you said something naughty on Facebook. You're fired and I'm gonna make sure anyone in the area doesn't hire you.

See. I SHOULD be allowed to say FUCK NIGGERS at home.

>Back in the early 2000's you could search for anything.
As you get hundreds of pop ups and viruses

t. fearmongering concern troll kike

I don't use any social media, but my gf, being a typical modern self obsessed female, uses FB on her phone a lot. She recently noticed that FB has been showing ads for shit that we would talk about. I was talking about some machining work I was doing and the next day she got an ad for a fucking lathe. Had to install a permissions manager app and deny the FB permission to use the mic. Creepy shit.

That has not been the experience for me. Google gives me exactly what I'm searching on the first page, and if it's not there, no matter many pages I go further, it's not there. That's how it was for at least 10 years for me.

Search engines are not to be trusted.
I once typed badabing badaboom pepe on bing and it auto corrected to badabing badapipe@#%&.

That's debatable. You're not saying it at home, you're broadcasting it to public with your identity attached.

I don't even know where to find shit anymore. there used to be communities for everything. now is just reddit and Facebook

Google actively filters out the non-left voice and attacks those on the right.

Proof:
dailywire.com/news/19950/google-now-working-liberal-groups-shut-out-joseph-curl
dailywire.com/news/20857/fired-googler-damore-underground-conservative-robert-kraychik

I work in tech in the bay area, these big companies all openly attack the right. If you're a righty, high tech is trying to kill you.

You are allowed to say fuck niggers at home. You just aren't allowed to say fuck niggers, then go out and shoot at some. That sets you up for a premeditated hate crime. Not saying I agree with it, but it makes sense and it should be common sense not to do it.

you must never search for anything deemed nsfw by the google overlords. Or non-lefty news.
Fucking shill fuck off. You're shitting up the whole thread. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain who goes to websites other than youtube, facebook, and gmail.

Still, you need to set up a profile of sorts, even if you're using an ISP. You have your name, address, etc. along with it. Anything you search, they store.

>This guy sure loves guns and teen poon. Hmmmmm... Must be one of those creepy nazis. Jeff. Call the Seattle office. He's not breaking any laws, but he's questionable.

Also, information is linked. For example, smart phones automatically have Facebook integrated. You can't avoid it. See that captcha at the top? Even if you don't use Google Chrome, you're still using a Google service.

Please, user. I don't even have a facebook account, or for any of our national facebook alternatives.

Instead of those empty accusation, how about you elaborate instead on what google is unable to find for you because of advertising?

>Still, you need to set up a profile of sorts, even if you're using an ISP.
For Facebook, yes. Using facebook is your mistake. Plenty of places online where you don't have to provide your identity.

>Also, information is linked. For example, smart phones automatically have Facebook integrated. You can't avoid it.
I can. I am avoiding it. I don't have facebook on my phone.

>See that captcha at the top? Even if you don't use Google Chrome, you're still using a Google service.
You are now arguing something completely different. Yes, they can link your posts on Sup Forums to your searches on google. They still can't link it to your identity, and even if they could, it's too weak of a link to serve as a justification for firing.

>I don't have facebook on my phone.
What phone is that?

Nexus 5.

Here are top results for "it's okay to be white". For you, I colored right leaning results green, left leaning red, and neutral or discussions yellow. Does this picture look like a total censorship of everything right?

They can link google searches and Sup Forums posts to your IP, and they can link your IP to your person. Assuming no proxy.

you do realize the captcha on here is literally running of google.com right?

Assuming ISP cooperates. I guess you have it much worse in USA with ISP cooperating, but I bet even there the charge has to be something more than "he said mean words" for them to cooperate.

Another point, if you don't change your DNS settings, you use those provided by your ISP.
Probably, along the way to the root DNS servers, are DNSs owned by Google Inc., or some child company. They then just scrape all DNS requests and link it with IP.
Give the absurdity of Google's breadth, it is foolish to assume they're not either covertly or subvertly tracking all of your actions.

When my ISP's DNS server is accessing one of higher hierarchy DNS servers, it does not send any of my information, not even IP address.

>I dont feel comfortable to search
Yeah, so much that my reflex to search whatever I'm interested is gone.

Prove it. You can't.
Also, prove that there is still no way to follow the DNS chain back to you.

You never know how Google is exploiting vulnerabilities, what new holes they've found and exploited but failed to mention.

Born '95, I really believe the constant inundation of media has been harmful in a way. I really just want to get out of the entire human sphere of activity.

The way I see it, proof is on you, due to the outlandish nature of your claim. You made a statement that google does do it, not that there is a potential that google broke a well known DNS implementation to spy on users.

Claims are in no way outlandish, this is the current very real situation.

If there is a plausible way to compromise your privacy, and you care about your privacy, shouldn't you defend yourself against the possible compromise?

Google won't ever tell you they've been tracking you. You won't know until it is too late. If you care, it is your responsibility to protect yourself.

Your claim is about google breaking a well known DNS implementation that my ISP uses. If it's not outlandish, it's just silly. DNS servers do not work this way.

you guys are fucking retarded, google doesnt need DNS implementation, most of the world uses google, the ads ran on the websites you browse are ran by google, people around you have voice recognition on their phones, they have your phone number and your names, because your peers accepted sharing their contacts with Facebook and google.

people are giving out free info about themselves and about you if you surround them.

nowadays if I meet someone on the street that i havent seen in a while facebook will show me his post a day later or give me a suggestion to add him to my friends.

and my mic and gps were off.

How many DNSs do you operate?

My point is simply that if you can't rule it out, which you can't as you don't control the DNSs, you can't assume it safe. It is basic security, don't ever trust anything.

>using facebook
>seeing ads
Please. user, please.

Then your point is meaningless as you can say this about anything. Not saying it has the same effect.

You don't understand the debate.

That's the easy case. Of course, if you give Google / Facebook your info, they have it. No doubt. My point is just that even if you don't, no facebook, don't use google, etc. you're still being tracked.

it doesnt matter what they do with this info, what matters is what they can do with it.

if you have potential for something to be abused for personal gain, it will sooner or later be abused.

this is just the beginning.

How so is the point meaningless? My point is just don't trust Google and if you want privacy, protect yourself. ie tor, internet cafe wifi, etc.

not that I want to defend the borg, but sometimes the omniscient skynet actually makes good recommendations. those would be worthwhile connections. we don't know how deep the data analysis goes. it's generally right. whatever, aliens probe my anus.

how so far, has this data collection actually affected anyone who uses adblock? i'm not running for president...

I've taken the opposite approach. I openly post Sup Forums memes on twitter with my full real name. I'm in the Midwest so no one at my company is an sjw that would try to get me fired. Honestly not worth living life in fear might as well post some funny memes and get some laughs out of it.

lol

Of course tor is compromised and internet cafe wifi is literally operated by larry page himself. Nothing is safe, trust no one, did you forget?

well, besides seth rich, that is

haha, now, you're taking my point to the extreme to try to say it is silly and wrong, reductio ad absurdum.

I am not taking your point to extreme. Your point already was extreme. Claiming that google is breaking well-known DNS implementations is on the same level as claiming that tor is broken, and if you want to argue otherwise, please go ahead and show me how.

Honestly curious when it makes good recommendations? I've found that search engines now just sort of give you a popular average result. Most of the good results (and shitty results) are not given.

>You are now arguing something completely different. Yes, they can link your posts on Sup Forums to your searches on google. They still can't link it to your identity, and even if they could, it's too weak of a link to serve as a justification for firing.


My whole point is simply that if you're concerned with your privacy, you shouldn't trust google, and you shouldn't assume you're safe. Think about when google used an exploit in safari to maliciously inject code and track people. They've already done this at least once, and their course has gotten more aggressive, not less.

Point is simply that they can very possibly link your Sup Forums posts to your identity and you should assume they do.

>it is theoretically possible that they can hence you should assume they do
Who's taking things to extreme now? I will assume things based on how likely they are, not on whether they are possible.

Who are you quoting?

I said, they've already exploited vulnerabilities. Their direction since that time was, and continues, to get worse, not better. Therefore, you can assume they're actively either exploiting vulnerabilities now, or seeking to.

In any case, I don't see why you would shill for Google so hard. I mean, if you like privacy, as per question in OP, you should be at a minimum wary about a company whose operating methodology is to break your privacy.

unsearchable walled gardens (linkedin facebook), paid PR/stratcom firms fabricating reviews, marketing comapnies sponsporing content in social media....
the censorship issue is a misdirect, they don't need to censor if they drown out all the real voices through sheer volume

>In any case, I don't see why you would shill for Google so hard.
Their search results are still good, their results are nowhere near as biased as anons claim, as I hope I have shown in . Telling the truth is not shilling.

The biggest abomination in this thread is your comment about DNS, completely inane.

I like privacy, but me liking it does not mean I should pretend that some things are false when I know they are actually now.

embrace the fact that you will never be free, they will always have power over you.

Saying the results are good is completely vapid. Good implies you compare it with other things and it is better than the average. Maybe you're happy enough with the results, happy enough to validate the intrusion of privacy, etc. But, that is just your feelings. Perhaps the other user was unhappy with the results. No truth is being told.

Said DNS subversion is completely possible. Google definitely has the motive and very arguably the means as well. I hope you see that. So, it rests on your trust of Google. My point is that, given their track record, you shouldn't trust them.

So, from my perspective, it sounds like you like Google and over look negative aspects, sounds like shilling.

>Said DNS subversion is completely possible.
It's less possible than breaking TOR. DNS is not designed to send information about clients. I'm not saying it is impossible, I'm saying it is inane to claim that it's happening. The same reaction that you had to me saying tor is compromised.

>But, that is just your feelings. Perhaps the other user was unhappy with the results.
Yeah, okay, get this, when I evaluate how good google is for me, I use my feelings, I do not use some other unhappy user's feelings.

I don't like google. You are incorrect about that. I actively dislike it, especially considering recent information about its complete SJW internal structure. But me not liking it should not stop me from telling the truth in discussions about google's search functionality - the truth that for me it still is great and does all I expect from it.

I never intended to disagree about tor. FBI has successfully de-anonymized people on TOR, eg silk road or harvard bomb threat, let alone timing attacks, controlling multiple nodes, etc. Inane, but very much a reality. Not directly breaking tor itself.
I hope you'd see how the same might apply for Google and DNS. Maybe they don't directly subvert DNS, but something else happens, ie some deal with ISPs, some government deal, some (publicly unknown) exploit in DNS itself.

In any case, The DNS point was just to illustrate that it isn't perfectly safe. Knowing that, and given Google's policy, if you're concerned about privacy (as per OP), you should consider if you really want to use Google.

I haven't personally found the Google results to be much better than, say duckduckgo, or any of the other sites which, at least claim, to be more privacy friendly.

If you're not actively testing the quality of Google's results compared with other search engines, you shouldn't advocate for them. If you don't have something to show that users of Google find their results quicker than, say duckduckgo or whatever, than you can't claim their results are better. If you can't claim they're better, and they provide a known negative (policy, result filtering, etc.), they're not a good choice.

>jew worries about joogle
so it’s come to this aye

>In any case, The DNS point was just to illustrate that it isn't perfectly safe. Knowing that, and given Google's policy, if you're concerned about privacy (as per OP), you should consider if you really want to use Google.
You honestly can't be blind to stupidity of what you're suggesting. The DNS attack vector that you outlined in your post will work regardless of whether you use google search or not.

>If you're not actively testing the quality of Google's results compared with other search engines, you shouldn't advocate for them.
I am making the truthful statement that google's results are good for me. The statement is relevant to discussion. I don't see why I wouldn't be allowed to do that.

>they're not a good choice.
Find me saying in this thread that Google is a good choice. Go ahead.

Yeah, duckduckgo. It goes without saying Google bumps sites, images and videos they promote. I would say use firefox, but it really does succ for performance.

Whats the best way to get rid of the digital footprint, lads?

I swear my phone must be taking pictures and sending them when I don't know it.
I've had some EXTREMELY creepy product ads pop up. Way beyond coincidence. I think my phone took a pic and sent it to a data base. It's happened a couple times now, just way beyond coincidentally possible.

Started when I installed the Bing app, which does some pretty cool things. Hate to uninstall it, but it has me wondering now.

This stupid. When England was in the rise we accommodated foreigners. You could kill Scots and Welsh under certain conditions. We need to make a law that says it's ok to kill niggers on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This would solve a lot of problems.

It's not about individual, up to the minute blackmail being dished out seconds after you search or say something objectionable.
It's about keeping a record of every person's actions online on file in the event that they do something of particular note at a later stage.
But it's not like that's something that can only be achieved by govt/corporate systems.
Digital footprints aren't that hard to track.
Even a layman can Google someone, trawl their social media etc.
I found out where a debt dodging former flatmate was living from one picture on their Facebook account.
Siphoning information is nothing without investigation.