Since the free market is mathematically the most fair form of trade for all market participants, why is there even an argument for socialism?
Why do I have to involuntarily surrender my resources to an entity just because they have a monopoly on the use of force, theft, extortion, and expropriation? How is this not a racket? Since this entity does not need to compete to produce a good or service in exchange for the funds it receives, what holds it accountable? What prevents it from grossly mismanaging its resources beyond the detrimental effects it may have on the subjugated populace from which it derives its revenue? What incentive does such an organization have to be more productive, be more efficient, improve existing processes, and deliver better services to the sheep who have no option in the deal to begin with? Am I supposed to believe that I can hold this criminal organization accountable by being able to vote on the clown that robs me? How about, I don't know, giving me the option of saying "no" to this transaction and not arresting me?
Why would anyone want MORE of this through socialism? Is there some kind of deep-seated stockholm syndrome here I'm missing?
Never met a self identified socialist who wasn't a total failure at life. Single parent household, on drugs, very poor.
It is just their way of taking money from other people. Even when they talk about free healthcare or free college, the assumption is that someone else will be paying that tab and not them.
They are a genetic powerhouse of garbage and will not be listening to any argument you have to keep them from getting free shit.
Connor Russell
John Rowls btfo you already kek. Behind the veil of ignorance people choose equality, making it the most intrinsically just
Lincoln Morris
should you force smart people to bash their heads against the well until they get brain damage and become as equally dumb as you too?
Xavier Ramirez
this
Thomas James
>Since this entity does not need to compete to produce a good or service in exchange for the funds it receives,
It does compete. With other forms of itself. You're just on the lowest level of capitalism so you don't see this.
Bentley Jones
No, because their smartness can be of benefit to others.
Jonathan Cruz
Anyone who is at least moderately intelligent undestands that we live in a criminal system that extorts the money from people using a threat of violence just like the mafia does, but 80% of people in the population are dumb, plus we have a democracy so that inevitably leads to idiocracy.
Dominic Davis
>why is there even an argument for socialism?
Because Satan is real and loves to fuck shit up. Also people are retarded and weak.
Kayden Johnson
Bravo OP, well said.
Nicholas Diaz
You know Adam Smith recognised faults in the free market right? Nowadays he'd probable be a social democrat.
Lincoln Diaz
Socialism is fully included in free markets ya nigga
Owen Turner
socialism is bad, stabilization of the business cycle is good
>retarded austrian "economists" in 3, 2, 1...
Mason White
babby's first political ideology
2011 is long one boyo, it's now the current year, we are a white nationalist board now.
Benjamin Lee
>Since the free market is mathematically the most fair form of trade for all market participants, why is there even an argument for socialism? Have you actually read any economic books? You can start here and then move to sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_failure
>Why do I have to involuntarily surrender my resources to an entity just because they have a monopoly on the use of force, theft, extortion, and expropriation Because that entity is the only thing that guarantees you have any property at all.
> Since this entity does not need to compete to produce a good or service in exchange for the funds it receives, what holds it accountable The people, that's what's voting is for
> Am I supposed to believe that I can hold this criminal organization accountable by being able to vote on the clown that robs me? There's no general solution to principal-agent problem, so yes.
> How about, I don't know, giving me the option of saying "no" to this transaction and not arresting me? How about let anyone take your property and not arresting them.
Charles Clark
> read an economics book > wikipedia When the next crash happens and proves Austrians right, will you repent heathen?
Caleb Rogers
>When the next crash happens and proves Austrians right i thought you people didn't believe in "proof"
Sebastian Clark
Adam Smith is misunderstood. People cite him to justify selfishness for the supposed sake of the common good, while Smith never supported such behavior. He believed that human nature was benevolent and that the rich would and should gravitate towards helping the rest of society.
Jeremiah James
Pure ideology.
Cameron Evans
lol just prax it out brah
Asher White
>Since the free market is mathematically the most fair form of trade for all market participants Thats a pretty fucking big statement to lead with, you might want to back up your position there now with some form of proof or at least persuasive argument. Especially given the fact that the leading argument of socialism is that a free market is NOT the most fair, hence the need for socialism.
Just playing devil's advocate here, yo. >Capitalism is awesome. >Health care and education still need to be socialized.
David Morales
True socialism is the answer not (((socialism))
free market and socialism are both jewish run.
John Jones
If you think taxation is theft then fight back faggot.Whats that?You cant win!? Welcome to reality cunt were the weak fear the strong,where the majority tramples on the minority.God,i swear some of you guys will keep the mental status of a 15 year old for your whole lifes.
Bentley Turner
>Since sortition is mathematically the most fair form of election for all represented, why is there even an argument for voting?
it's like people get off on a fucked 2 party system
Lincoln White
>t. Robert Nozick BTFO John Rawls
Henry Jenkins
There's no viable alternative to violence monopoly and taxes. Taxes are a necessary evil and should be minimized, but anarchy is way worst than a small gov.
Ian Wilson
why work??????????? LEL THE MONEY COMES IN 4free in germany i get roughly 400 euro and an appartment for farting around. one guy who went studying with me turned into a weed addicted commie who failed his degree and not lives on welfare called Harz4, which means you get money even if you dont do anything.
Ian Garcia
>stabilization of the business cycle is good which is why we need to get rid of central banks.
William Parker
Come on, at least TRY to make an argument.
Daniel Cox
>there's no viable alternative Just because you're unfamiliar with the literature on the topic does not mean there is none.
Angel Sanders
> using Keynesian flawed measure to proves Keynesians wrong Oh but it will feel soo good to disprove them with their own bullshit. You're conflating two different things friend, please dont do it again.
Jaxon Walker
there’s no argument against the free market. people are too low iq and controlled by emotions and gibs to understand it.
Cameron Clark
>Since the free market is mathematically the most fair form of trade for all market participants, why is there even an argument for socialism? Have you read Capital? At least the first chapters? What about The German Ideology? Have you read it? Are you familiar with Marx's materialism?
Levi Mitchell
Liberal agendas, such as socialism and wealth redistribution, are based on emotion and that's why they generrally have a high chance of success in indoctrination. Capitalism and capitalist eficiency are based on reason. The problem is that instead of a mass of free thinkers, we have a mass of free "feelers". Nevertheless, humans are inherently different. Some succeed more than others. Some don't succeed at all. Natural inequalities among people which are inevitable.
