/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.

Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking.

THREAD RESOURCES:
>Pastebin: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8
>Discord & Book Club: Kd2WD2X

RECOMMENDED MATERIAL:
>The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!)
>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard)
mises.org/library/anatomy-state
>For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard)
mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto
>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

FURTHER READING:
>Reference - See i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg
>Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books

THREAD TUNES:
>hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA
>Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw
>I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM

>Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads

Other urls found in this thread:

mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property
youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8
mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf
mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document
youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o
chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html
youtu.be/UnqbteyrdeI
youtube.com/watch?v=3vBZ5rPjPJk
mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy of the State_3.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ
youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s
youtube.com/watch?v=9sqMXmQA7XQ
youtube.com/watch?v=P2XMe1hk-xg
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Nice arguement

I'm with you, fuck communist, a good communist is one hanging from a tree.

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bumping the fuck out of this

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>Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell
mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property
>Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell
youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8
>Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard
mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf
>Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe
mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document

/lrg/ doesnt seem to get much traction here which is kinda sad desu.

STOP GLOBALISM.
ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING.
END THE FED.
GAS THE STATE
NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do.

Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system.

>"The Jewish Question" by Life Love and ANARCHY
youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o
>Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement:
chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html
Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places.

You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.

we're gonna have a comeback soon.

Question: how does one get the stench out of a helicopter after throwing out filthy communists?

Anyone else glad to see authoritarian fascists getting rekt?

youtu.be/UnqbteyrdeI

But anarchy is just as bad as communism and direct democracy, I'm right-libertarian but all free-market capitalist constitutional federal republic.

>not using supermale vitality deodorant

>if you believe in your individual freedom greater than my imaginary right to property then i will aggression you
'Libertarians' everyone

government borders are not at all libertarian by the way. you cant use aggression on 'a' to stop 'b' aggressing on 'c'.

globalism is the best way to spread freedom around the globe. the era of nationalism and government control must be ended

I dont want to spread shit around the globe, I want self-determination. thats real freedom.

fuck off globalist neo-liberal kike

Piss off, Bolshevik. I'll rip your jaw off and shit down your throat if you violate the NAP.

Do you not realize the contradiction between being libertarian and supporting violence?
To eliminate groups you don't like, you need an organization to project violence.
Such an organization will inevitably acquire characteristics of a state. You aren't even pretending, you're outright saying your society couldn't exist without a powerful violent state.
So how are you libertarian? Libertarian would be someone who supports something, but doesn't call for violence in order to implement it.
You can hate communists, not associate with communists and so on, but as soon as you call for an organized violence against some group you stop being libertarian.

>libertarian
>right

>libertarian and supporting violence
we dont stand for non-violence, we stand for violence in defense of property rights. we're not pacifists. we never claimed to be.

>literally having negro in the name of your country
BLACKED.com jokes aside, you were better off as Serbia's coastline.

Libertarianism is a right-wing ideology.

youtube.com/watch?v=3vBZ5rPjPJk

It is okay to kill non-libertarians because they reject our rights to life, liberty, and property.

No, here you don't call for mere personal property defense (someone tries to take something for you, so you stop him), you people actually call for organized violence against certain groups, whether it's commies, ''degenerates'', whatever.
Organized violence can't realistically exist without a hierarchical organization.
That hierarchical organization is literally same shit as state.
So you aren't libertarian, you're pseudo-fascists who adopt a token libertarian outlook. Your ideas are self-defeating from the start.

Fucking never, you'll have to kill me first and I got a 50. bmg rifle for popping off those blue helmets.

Death to communist and blue helmets!

So you want to kill overwhelming majority of human population?
You're literally worse than Khmer Rouge in that case. So what the fuck are you rambling about here?

Communists commit violence and vandalization against property. It is the goal of the communists to "seize the means of production" and abolish private property after all. and dont even get me started on those "peaceful communists" they dont exist, and if they do they're sp useless I dont care if they rot.

Nigger.

>So you want to kill overwhelming majority of human population?
Yes, as it turns out, most people are freedom-hating psychopaths. I see no other recourse but to kill them in self-defense.

>You're literally worse than Khmer Rouge in that case.
The Khmer Rouge weren't defending themselves from an onslaught of deranged statists; on the contrary, they are they are the pinnacle of the mindless statism that plagues so many people today.

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So much for ''libertarians have high IQ". How can you not understand my point?
To do things you want to do from the outset, you need a strong state.
Strong state means it's not a libertarian society.

You're just throwing around buzzwords like they did. You just said you want to kill most of humans, so you're just a rabid lunatic, worse than any communists who ever lived.

you should want freedom for everyone, otherwise you don't really care about freedom in itself, you're just a hedonist.

We stuck to our principles AND we adapted a better strategy.

I'm right libertarian and very patriotic and strongly believe in government as my American founders intended, not all libertarians are anarchist.

GET OUT FAGGOT

Buddy, if your ideology is centered around stealing from me and hurting me if I resist, you're the lunatic.

Buzzwords.

>truth is that women are inferior to men in many respects
oh, fuck off. of course there are some areas where men do better but there are just as many where women are better and overall women are actually better suited to a post-industrial age.

Ancaps like goverment you retard. It sounds like you need a rundown on what we mean by "The State"

>The Anatomy of the State - Murray Rothbard
mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy of the State_3.pdf

its not long, just read it and stop being such a moron.

he wants to kill them all but at least he doesn't want to take pennies from their pockets unless he can fool them into parting with them

Rothbard himself was not a red-baiter like the people in these threads. It was the anti-Communists who drove Rothbard and other libertarians out of the post-war Right.

We don't give a shit about "freedumb" we care about property rights, global central planning is at odds with with that goal. remove yourself kike.

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Also, reminder that David Friedman visited one of these threads and BTFO the Hoppeans.

Whatever, I thought you were actually somewhat rational humans instead of schizophrenics who live in a meme world.

Natsoc's are your friends. With you on the day of the rope kamaraden!

That is true. So you're saying because people who were anti-communist treated Rothbard like shit that we should be.. pro-communist?

we can have open borders or a welfare state
and people are not ready to get rid of the welfare state
physically remove all open borders advocates until welfare state is abolished

Oh no someone posted a David Friedman book! how will we ever recover?

Read the book faggot. it's only 60 pages. stop being a retard on purpose.

>global central planning is at odds with with that goal.
1. that's not exactly a definition of globalism. very dishonest.
2. planning by individual nation states is much more problematic. they rule over their people with an iron fist, punish others with trade barriers, confiscate property of investors and nothing is done.

holy shit. that's in his real writing style too.

we're not worthy...

1. What is your gay definition of globalism?

2. I want planning by proprietors, thats even more decentralized than nation-states. I support nationalism as a way to undermine super-states like the EU that are taking us into a global statist future. when thats done I'll be a states and regional rights guy.

>nationalist
>libertarian

So you are just a edgy teenager adding as much buzzwords as possible in a attempt to form a special snowflake ideology?

Nationalism is a antithesis to libertarianism

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Fits my bill except for
>creation theory in schools
You could teach that as a footnote maybe, but Evolution makes far more sense and is more important for a White child to understand so they know the dangers of miscegenation.

>Distaste for Universalism & Secularism
Church and State should be separated.

>Right to Work
Not entirely sure what this means, but as far as I remember that's about the women's right to work, which I don't think should be in place as it creates more problems than it solves.

a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory is an anti-libertarian concept? Please enlighten me as to how you came to that conclusion.

They're thinking of ant-government anarchist scum.

>1. What is your gay definition of globalism?
Wanting power and sovereignty to reside with international bodies (mostly as opposed to national bodies)

I could define nationalism as 'central planning by nation states' but that would be dishonest as well. It's just a matter of power, not power usage

>2. I want planning by proprietors, thats even more decentralized than nation-states. I support nationalism as a way to undermine super-states like the EU that are taking us into a global statist future. when thats done I'll be a states and regional rights guy.
I don't think there's an 'individual proprietor' future ahead.
Here's how I look at it. A monopoly on violence is the first step to reducing violence among individuals. So a monopoly on law will reduce violence among nations.

>truth is that women are inferior to men in many respects
doesn't exclude
>>truth is that men are inferior to women in many respects
we're not biologically equal, no one is drawing a general "x is better than y", that's pointless

>corporations are attacking nationalism wherever they find it
>but if we let them rule they will suddenly become ultra-nationalist

I am a anarchist. Nations are a natural part of humanity. I have no interest in breaking up nations.

>implying libertarianism is significantly different from ancap

Have you guys heard of Bitbutter? It's a small Libertarian channel that makes great content.

youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ
youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s

I understand your position completely. You should be publicly hanged. You are a threat to liberty. Get the fuck out of here.

Corporations are leftist due to anti-discriminaton laws in first world contries, It is illegal to have an all white corporation. see: civil rights

Again the state is the route of the problem, they prevent corporations from forming that are a threat to the state.

No you dumb fuck. Corporations are leftist because it is more profitable for them to be leftist. It's not profitable for them anymore to restrain themselves to only the white-american market. The end goal of corporations is to destroy as much trade barriers as possible (borders are the largest trade barrier).

Who do you think was behind the progressive niggerification of our societies in the last couple of decades? Some ragtag communist ideologues? lol

niggers only chimp the way they do because jews like Lyor Cohen have corrupted their culture and they do not value or receive any education.

pointing out one but not the other gives the wrong impression. why would you phrase it as 'women are inferior in many respects to men' rather than 'women and men differ in many respects'? the first one gives a one-sided and hurtful impression.

>freedom-loving people who disagree with my methods should be hanged
'libertarians' everyone

A corporations goal is to provide a service, even if that service is keeping niggers out of your gated community.
Are you denying the implications of The Civil Rights And Equal Employment Opportunity act are in effect?
prove me wrong. Open an explicitly whites only company. seee if the law allows that in your shitty superstate.

>niggers only chimp the way they do because
whites let them.

But this wasn't the point

You're a threat to libery, you advocate for global and super-states, you're a statist, not a "freedom loving person" get fucked globalist scum.

>implying hundreds of individual serfdoms is superior

>But anarchy is just as bad as communism and direct democracy
Substantiate this.

>implying having a single slave master monopolist state that rules over the whole planet has anything to do with Individual liberty or property rights

delete your post, Soros.

of course it could have been phrased better, but this isn't a piece of propaganda meant to change minds, just some dude voicing his opinion that got screen capped
"overall women are better suited to a post industrial age" is bullshit by the way, they're still more emotional, too empathetic, and less intelligent overall and this is extremely conspicuous in the tech area, which is unsurprisingly the sector where women are most "concerned" with diversity

"post industrial" is a fucking joke in itself and it's no surprise an EU meme flag faggot would use it unironically

>not being able to understand how much it does

>strongly believe in government as my American founders intended
Good intentions are not enough to prevent the inevitable. Democracy results in decivilization and capital consumption. Government results in more government. The actual history of the United States demonstrates this. What better example do you need to show that the system is inherently unworkable?

left on shitposting flag

>they're still more emotional, too empathetic
Can be useful. A lot of jobs in the future are going to depend on teamwork and the 'human touch'.

>less intelligent overall
That's a fringe opinion. Most common expert opinions says equal overall intelligence, with differing distributions

>this is extremely conspicuous in the tech area
That might be one career where men have the advantage (though I'm not sure how important teamwork is)
I just don't think tech is that important an industry in terms of number of people employed

Democracies have the most capital stock, most civilised people, best human rights and greatest political freedom. You are nothing more to me than just another ideologue

Right to work is about not having to join a union to work, it is 100% libertarian. How do you not know about this? You have a libertarian flag and don't even know about current libertarian issues because you're a larping jackass

>most capital stock
Inherent in the democratic process is the incentive toward short-term thinking. The very fact that "public" property exists, and temporary stewards are elected to control private resources in order to fund it and make decisions about it, means that on the whole, promises of bigger gibs and shorter time frames tends to win elections. This means that the concepts of capital investment and long-term planning are not as competitive. It is only through private ownership that people demonstrate a strong motivation to plan ahead and increase wealth carefully.

>most civilized people
Back in the time of absolute monarchies, the most civilized people still happened to be in the same geographic location as they are now. Since you're on this board, I'll let you figure out why that was.

>best human rights
Hardly. There are infinite regulations now that restrict the right to property, speech, conduct, etc. Far more than a century ago, and more still than two centuries.

>political freedom
That's why you go to prison if you deny the Holocaust in France, or wave Nazi flags in Germany?

yeah i know, just provoking the intuitive discussion on niggers

>implying Lukashenka is bad or a dictator
youtube.com/watch?v=9sqMXmQA7XQ
Babushka knows.

>Can be useful. A lot of jobs in the future are going to depend on teamwork and the 'human touch'.
women already gravitate towards those jobs, the problem is that they're forced into jobs that don't fit their average psych profiles

> Most common expert opinions says equal overall intelligence, with differing distributions
experts who say this are merely trying to get sympathy points, do you know what happens to scientists who dare to be biologically realists ? look up the guy who discovered the DNA double helix.
it's a bell curve, like race, and the female one is simply inferior

>That might be one career where men have the advantage
men have the advantage in most careers

>Democracies have the most capital stock, most civilized people, best human rights and greatest political freedom
Wow, so my country is heaven on earth basically. How I never realize that? Oh I remember why, is because it isn't.

>This means that the concepts of capital investment and long-term planning are not as competitive.
No, having one reason they could be less competitive doesn't mean you can simply assert that democracy is less competitive than anything else.

>Back in the time of absolute monarchies, the most civilized people still happened to be in the same geographic location as they are now. But they were certainly less civilised than they are now. And I would even say it's generally true than in the rest of the world democracy has been associated with more civilisation.

>Hardly. There are infinite regulations now that restrict the right to property, speech, conduct, etc. Far more than a century ago, and more still than two centuries.
Wait until you see the condition in non-democracies.

>That's why you go to prison if you deny the Holocaust in France, or wave Nazi flags in Germany?
Because political freedom is not *absolute* in those countries. It doesn't follow that democracy doesn't have more political freedom than other systems.

Would I be allowed to be a Nazi in Ancapistan? Just not a communist? Seems interesting.

fugg lol :DD

youtube.com/watch?v=P2XMe1hk-xg

>experts who say this are merely trying to get sympathy points
So you just deny science that disagrees with what you think is true, but the problem is the majority of scientists being biased. Okay

if you actually think that [% that goes to college] reflects intelligence i need you to kill yourself right now

Daily reminder that free market capitalism is the only form of nonviolent eugenics

>doesn't mean you can simply assert that democracy is less competitive than anything else.
That absolute monarchy, where all the land is privately owned and therefore subject to the incentive of long term capital investment? Yes, I can, because it's right there in the definition.

>Wait until you see the condition in non-democracies
Like I said, any extant non democracies were shitty before democracy became a thing in the west. The reason for this is not simply their system of government.

>It doesn't follow that democracy doesn't have more political freedom than other systems
Granted. It has inherently less than anarchism, but compared to other statist systems there is no reason it can't have more political freedoms in principle. However, when compared to earlier monarchical Europe, the rise of nationalism and mass democracy in the early 20th century had comparatively fewer political freedoms, particularly in light of two world wars.

>Would I be allowed to be a Nazi in Ancapistan?
You would be allowed to be whatever the fuck you want, as long as you're on your property, or are permitted by the property owner to express those views. Could even be a meme-tier "communist" if you want. However, any ideology that promotes the overthrow of ancap society would not likely be welcome. And any such ideologues who threaten to enact their ideals would likely find themselves McNuked.