Holocaust Denial Thread

Holocaust Denial Thread
I have to redpill my younger brother today.

I'll start

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The Holocaust happened, it was just greatly (((exagerated)))

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What does this picture being fake actually prove though? I think it's safe to assume that that man was put in later as an illustration.

>This much in denial

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But if you say this, you hate our troops.

>if you don't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them
>REAL MURICAN
>the holocaust happened and everything about it is inexcusable
>I'll break your fucking neck for making me consider that all of the Arab infants I incinerated with white phosphor were innocent

Meme this for Great Justice

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"Maybe ___unbelievable claim___, I don't know"

Hey!!! No plagiarizing Zisblatt!

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"Maybe they try to see if fart can be made to weapon, I don't know"

Where did they go?

>implying actual criminals/sabateurs weren't executed in wartime

Damn mahmood i knew britbongs were rearded but

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"Maybe electricity work different back then, I don't know."

The Greatest Story Never Told Episode #21

Almost all of them died, those that didn't fled to Israel, the US, and other neutral or allied European states.

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"Maybe they were training the bears for super-soldat program, I don't know"

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for what reason?

Maybe acid was less trouble than the firing squad, I don't know"

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>implying they actually held fair trials instead of killing all the viable suspects for said crime in occupied territory

"Maybe he likes to watch, I don't know"

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"Maybe dogs naturally breed the jews, I don't know"

Something odd though is why would Hitler, who made constant references to "international Jewry" and Jews in finance, would be so obsessed with killing a bunch of Eastern European Jewish farmers.

"Maybe they were trying to learn to cure blindness, I don't know"

It's not that I deny the Holocaust, only that I have a few questions:

1) Why does the Holocaust receive disproportionate attention relative to other atrocities committed in the era of 1914-1945 including those in Armenia, Ukraine, and Greece? Could it be because of Jewish influence in the media and academia?
2) Why is it so difficult to get a consensus on the number of dead? Figures range from 2-12 million. That's a hell of a range. Also, how many were "exterminated" and how many died from typhus and other diseases?
3) Why is there no documented evidence of the order being given? Was the rounding up of Jews and other "degenerates" a well orchestrated plot from the top or was it merely an organic phenomenon that got out of hand? Even the Wansee conference notes leave much to be desired.

These questions shouldn't be controversial.

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The answer to all your questions in one image

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They used them as test subjects for the effective of acid and poison gas on humans is the logical conclusion. Not, it's all fake.

"Maybe testing if jews can resist anything free, I don't know"

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Because he wanted to wipe the Jews off the planet?

Because you hold trial for Partisans...

underrated

"Maybe sweet baby marmalade was irresistible, I don't know"

money in the form of reparations

You dont, you hold trials for suspects that are accused of being partisans and not just accused partisans were executed.

I would say that if you believe the holocaust, that means you believe there was a systematic operation to mass murder Jews. The number is irrelevant in this definition. There was probably no gassings being done to the inmates for the purpose of genocide and murder. The gas that was supposedly used, Zyklon B, is a very inefficient gas if you are wanting it to kill people. Most of the inmates probably died towards the end of the war due to causes like starvation and typhus, the former of which was being experienced throughout Europe, and especially in Germany and Eastern Europe. The Jews have been able to focus the entire media and education system on it for the past 70 years because anyone who questioned them was branded an anti-Semite, and after Hitler was apparently one, no one wanted to be like the enemy. No document or evidence of an order to genocide Jews was ever given simply because there was no plan to do such. Before the war Hitler set up an act which allowed Jews to travel to then Palestine so they could live there instead of in Germany. He obviously didn't want to wipe them off the face of the earth as we have been taught he did.

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Let us give some concepts for the newfags
>what we reject happened to the Jewish population during WW2
The Holocaust is the alleged industrial mass murder/genocide of the European Jewish population mainly by the use of gas.
>what most of us believe happened to the Jewish population during WW2
The Jewish ghettos, the Concentration camps and the forced slave labor, disease. starvation and the general inhumane occurrences that took place.
>why does it matter?
If no industrial genocide did not occur, it is, most likely, not the most perverse occurrence that has taken place in history. compared to the other atrocities that happened during the 20th century but it is rather mild and the Nazis deserve an apology.

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lol no it didnt.

Everybody here, just fuckoff. You need these 2 links, and it's over:

holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
Europa: The last battle part 8

"Maybe over-complicating makes it simple, I don't know. Buy my 6million"

Instead of denying it, how about discussing other more recent and more brutal genocides?

My god, these stories are outrageous. I've been suspecting that the CIA was using the Holocaust as propoganda to create sentiment against the nazis. I'm more confident now. But, still not completely certain until I know more data.

I believe that it happened and that it was lied about, but I believe that we will never know how bad it really was because politics and lack of proper investigation. It could have been worse than what they told for all that I can tell.

Can we make some Nazi/anti-gorillion propaganda? I'm going to hit the streets again on monday to preach and would like some shocking imagery to make people think.

So 14 of my family members just up and disapered and did not go to a concentrations camp

>The Holocaust happened
Any evidence?

How do you know they did go to one?

There are no pictures of Nazi genocide. Yet there are ENDLESS images/films/remains of jewish communists during the holodomor

They were on holiday in Crete, but let's just jump to conclusions. XD

That one never gets old does it

"Maybe they were trying to weaponize gravity, I don't know. Buy my 6million"

>look i posted it again!

So is it possible that the jews were actually responsible for the death and that the plot was twisted by the winning sides to blame the nazis?

youtube.com/watch?v=lnLdAYvmSZE

What death? Where? When? With what?

There are not enough:
remains
missing people
means
motive

It's made up.

"Maybe the picture it need more time to develop, I don't know. Buy my 6million"

One guy on Reddit proved 1,1M Joos in Auschwitz couldn't happen in modern day, let alone 70 years ago.
reddit.com/r/milliondollarextreme/comments/77wn25/mfw_someone_actually_believes_the_holocaust/dopeyxs

I would not trust the images presented of the holocaust. The CIA are experts at creating propaganda to rile up people. Look at what happened in Operation TPAJAX. Look at what happened with the assassination of Congo's Prime Minister Lumumba . You will never hear about these as Americans because they keep this information from you.

The JFK files crearly show in declassified CIA documents that Lumumba was assassinated by the CIA.

Operation TPAJAX declassified can be found online, although heavily redacted( the CIA is required by law to declassify their old poperation files after a certain amount of time has passes, after they are no longer relevant (I think 20 years))

I can't say I get the motives or political value of it either, because the Jews posed no territorial threat to anybody which is the primary motivator for ethnic cleansing. Cleansing and deportations and everything in between was not uncommon before WW2 and even briefly after WW2. It was a good way to permanently solve demographic issues and disputes between countries.

I doubt the holocaust was as fanatical as people portray it, but don't get surprised at how casually states did those kind of things. Even America had camps out of sheer suspicion.

But I guess the logic is the same as killing children, as in, one day, these harmless and innocent people will grow up and become an enemy. They were convinced Jews had something inside of them that naturally made them enemies of the German people and I can totally understand that. I don't think it's genetics, but the Jews are a very insular group of people for historical reasons and that probably breeds a deep resentment and emotional distance towards the host countries and encourages support for things like communism and being able to take advantage of people financially with little remorse and so on and so forth. That innocent little peasant might become a communist revolutionary when he grows up.

/pol help me make more printed propaganda. At some point we can have a campaign similar to IOTBW where we post these truth-bombs-in-a-single-image posters everywhere and get people made one-way or the other.

It doesn't matter what they believe as long as they look into it.

Here's my idea for a campaign:
"Are we sure the good guys won?"

So the poster has an image of some atrocity that Americans don't deny, and the text along these lines
>X amount of wars since WWII
>X amount of dead in foreign campaigns
>X amount of bases in foreign countries
>Winston Churchill quotes showing he lied
>blah blah blah conquest and atrocities
>Are you sure the good guys won?

1. yes, Jews have disproportionate influence in the media and academia. no serious person disputes this. lots of gypsies ("Roma") died in the holocaust too but no one talks about them because no one cares about them
2) Most historians agree on a number between 5-7 million. That's how history is, it's not an exact science. You combine things from many sources - the Nazis, documents, witnesses.
I'm not sure about the exact numbers cause i've never exactly thought about this, but i'd probably say about ~3 million were gassed, ~1 million were shot or killed in other ways, which could leave up to 2 million dead from the things you said, but i might be way off base
3) because either it didn't exist or it was destroyed. the nazis destroyed a lot of shit after the war. the folly of deniers is that they take it as given that the Nazis should have left as much evidence intact, so that people wouldn't argue about this on the internet 70 years later, which is bullshit.
that being said, there's evidence of some reports from the Eastern Front Einzatsgruppen units documenting amount of Jews killed (shot), as well as a few other "code words" etc

Zyklon B's active ingredient is hydronic cyanid. This form of death would turn the bodies RED, CHERRY RED. It would be impossible to miss.

Yet the number of "witnesses" that testify to seeing a red body is 0. Not 1, not a few, 0.

How can I believe somebody that tells me they were taken to the White House if they can't even tell me the color of the wallpaper, the color of the drapes, ANYTHING at all? But hey, if you call this witness a liar, you literally killed 6million.

the question whether it was the most efficient gas to kill people is kind of irrelevant. It had a history of use in executions as early as 1924 in the United States, and more importantly, was readily available in mass quantities since it was used for delousing. All you need to use it on humans is reduce the dose (mammals are more susceptible to it).

further, one funny thing about holocaust denial is that they don't know how to address at least a few mass shootings of Jews in the east (Before they switched to gassing). You can't argue Hitler was taking good care of his jews and they were dying accidentally from typhus if he had special paramilitary units filling mass graves with jewish men/women/children. its either or...

Good point, desu.

Nigger SHUT THE FUCK UP

Witnesses that say they personally emptied gas chambers and took the corpses to the cremation ovens ALL describe the corpses as black and blue.

Here's what those corpses WOULD have looked like.

Columbo can only draw one conclusion. You're under arrest sir.

I personally know a family who's grandfather somehow survived a Nazi firing squad. at the last second someone else was ordered to take his place in the line, that man died, he did not... he was also not jewish

"Maybe they care about muh 6million, I don't know. Buy my 6million"

It was real to me!!

THIS

this is a common tactic. I've read a medical article where only a small minority of MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS could correctly this rather inconsistent sign in documented cyanide exposures... its a motivated argument that attempts to nitpick some fatal flaw in an elaborate hoaxers plot (who apparently forgot to do his research)

plus its pretty disingenuous - since holocaust deniers will hand-wave all witness statements as lies anyway, unless it suits them

This is gonna sound dumb, but wouldn't cyanide be blue... or cyan?

*Correctly identify

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Yeah....you know....all of these stories make NO SENSE.

Let's put it this way. If you study murder cases, you come to the conclusion that all murders are essentially the same. They all have some motive, some purpose.

You can compare one murder to another and so on and so on, literally all the same.

What about mass murder?
China, russia, Islamic crusades, etc. They can all be compared. But this holocaust...it just doesn't. It in no way fits. It makes no sense. You're saying all of these mass murders had the same goal and one of them just kinda dangled off and fucked it all up?

Yeah....no.

I don't give a fuck if the holocaust happened or not you're just fucking stupid

in the court of law, if the stories don't align, they delegitimize one-another.

Three people go into a horror house, all come out with incompatible claims, therefore at MINIMUM, you have two liars.

"You see the problem here, right?"

"Maybe it didn't happen but everybody wishes it would happen, I don't know"

another common holocaust denier meme

the problem with the World Almanac tactic is that they never based their numbers on proper data.. it was "extrapolated" from pre-war numbers
the 1949 edition fixed the number of Jews to 11,266,600

of course holocaust deniers intentionally dont give you the 1949 number because they're pushing propaganda, they're not interested in serious research

even "serious" holocaust revisionists dont use this kind of dumb shit since it makes them look ridiculous ... same goes with about 95% of common holocaust denial memes people spam

Right but they always say the bodies had such little fat they burned up quicker than big fat americans

No. Nothing about cyanide is blue. Whenever it reacts with IRON, the newly formed chemical "Prussian blue" is formed.

Cyanide blocks oxygen from cells. When your body senses oxygen deprivation, it breaths harder and pumps blood faster and dilates blood vessels to flush the whole body in an attempt to deliver oxygen. You turn red, suffocate and die.

Wait, hold on. So you're telling me that in 1948 they intentionally projected population growth into their numbers WITHOUT accounting for their claims of so many killed?!

then perhaps you should read that thread to check out if there's any counter arguments or explanations, if you really gave a shit about this topic and weren't using it as a political axe to grind

my simplest way to shut down this argument is to point to the Furnace manufacturers own cremation capacity

imgur.com/d09KvVO

~4700 a day straight from the horses mouth

Coke is an extremely efficient form of coal. It burns white.
Bodies burn white and release little smoke at all.
Yet the countless claims of the sky "blacked out" by the crematorium....hm....

No aerial photos exist with black smoke.

"You see the problem here, sir?"

yes

now here's Occam's razor - there was a mistake in a book (or not really a mistake, they were just lazy and basing it on pre-war population growth projections, its not like people were doing phone polls back then)
OR
they're part of literally the biggest conspiracy/plot in history (but they didn't get the memo in time)

would you apply this logic to any other historical event? would you apply this logic to the stats on how many people Bolsheviks killed?

Modern coke ovens.

but that means only 4 million died.
This is a good point though. You would imagine that 3 years after the world ended there would be at least a footnote mentioning the difficulty of estimating the numbers or something

A mistake in a book? That's how you shrug off the lack of evidence and the SCIENTIFIC IMPOSSIBILITY of witness testimonies?

Deepthroating that jew pill

heres your answer

nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/crematoria/crematoria-smoke.html

but fuck actually educating yourself right