Developments Nov4 >Houthi missile intercepted by Saudi air defence close to Riyadh(North of King Khaled Airport) >Lebanon:PM Hariri resigns, attacks Iran&Hezbollah. Saudi minister-'confirmed information' on plot to kill Hariri >Report:Sy sec chief meets US official in Damas to discuss missing CIA operatives >DeZ liberated. Reports of 600civis + unknown IS fighters reached deal with SDF to withdraw to SDF area >NE Hama:SAA liberates al-Shakousiyah village from HTS >SW Aleppo:HTS announced that it recaptured al-Rashidiya village and its hill >RU TU-22M3 bombers strike IS arms, munitions depots & command posts in Bukamal for the 4th day in a row >Unconfirmed:Some PMT fighters cross border from Qaim to Syria in order to stop SDF from taking Bukamal >Iraqi troops liberate al-Qaim >Israel strikes Syria 24 times this year(latest Nov 1), faild to change course of war >Golan:Israeli backed HTS offensive in Al-Quneitra gov stopped by SAA who also recaptures lost points >Damascus calls on UNSC to condemn Israeli strikes on Syria >Idlib:30+ armored vehicles enter idlib gov from Turkey >Report:180k displaced by Iraqi-Kurdish conflict >Yemen:29 civis killed in Saudi airstrike on Alaf market in Sahar district >Houthi forces destroy several Saudi Army vehicles in assault near Yemeni border
>kurds hating communists Do you even read your own posts before sending them?
Ryan Hall
This. General Amin was redpilled.
Daniel Hall
sleep well Sayid
Robert Martin
All rise for the national anthem of Tanzania (CU)
James Jackson
>socialist scum
It's hard to manage modern world economy without some kind of protectionarism. If you opened your markets multi nationals would colonise you first economicaly, which may seem fine by the local population as they start earning more, the politicaly with influence in goverment they get by loobying and buying out politicians.
Social services goverment provides is natural state of neo liberalism. I cant see big difference between american social service and welfare system and Arab bathist one. Most countries have it. There are differences in healthcare and that stuff.
Now nationalisation of companies is even more complicated matter, but I will give you quick explanation.
Central planning is commiedysfunctional shit everyone knows it. Natural resources and companies in Bathist countries are either held by the state, state capitalism like china, or are in hands of private individuals, arabs preferably who feel sense of duty toward state and people. This is like Corporatism, but nationalistic, like Fachism.
In the end I am all for economic liberty, but in modern day and age it's impossible. Free markets gets infested by multinationals, banks roll on fiat currencies, we are back to Bipolar/Multipolar world and demografic problems on top of that that need to be adressed first.
Ian Reyes
are you autistic? i clearly said they are socialist scum, and that there is a seperate national socialist party. thank god no one is falling for the any commy propaganda in my country.
fuck those traitorous scum.
fuck off, egyptians are one of the worst shit shows on the planet. I'd be surprised if they ever stop switching allegiances like a schitzo autist
Adam Baker
To be fair, it was a wise move by Trump to vouch for MBS over MBN
Nathan Reed
Do you honestly believe kurds are really communists? Theyll be anything you want them to be if you give them their biji kurdistan.
Robert Lewis
Democratic confederalism/socialism/communism/Marxism/Leninism/democratic socialism/anarchism, whatever they all stem from the same root, and the Kurds will be anything that is left wing in order to get biji biji
Parker Miller
So far, i see that KSA happening more like a rushed way to clean up the country before the connections between them with ISIS/Al-Qaeda start to show up. I read many news about KSA start a modernization of their social structure, fuck, they're allowing women to do things, i just realized how desperate they're for trying to save faces before at certain time, now this, where many people arrested had some interesting connection with Israel and ISIS/Al-Qaeda.
What i fear is maybe Lebanon will face a Syrian Theater shit but i doubt it, many are saying this is actually a bad thing because they're showing how Iran is taking over ME and "Muh Israel" but is more like a massive retreat of KSA from anything related to Syrian War or giving shit to terrorist.
And a Invasion of Israel to Lebanon, isn't that good, and even more when you see Hezbollah with T-90 in Iraq and crossing into Syria.
Aiden Long
Im just pointing out that calling a party "socialist scum" just because it calls itself socialist Is not an argument
Kevin Hill
>when you see Hezbollah with T-90 in Iraq and crossing into Syria.
That's one of the reason why Israel will have eventually to return Golan to their owners.
Robert Gray
demographics alone would enforce that sooner or later
Sebastian Lewis
>cucknada >thank god no one is falling for the any commy propaganda in my country.
Colton Johnson
Today’s the day m80s
Christopher Diaz
Kurds = gypsies Just look at Birzani, is he left wing to you? They dont care about politics, its all gypsy tactics to them.
Dominic Kelly
thank you for that proper reply.
socialism isn't the only system advocating for such services. i definitely see the fruits of some of of those policies, but in the end, what i'm mostly against is the policies they socialist policies they've applied that have helped in somewhat fracturing the country. Not only that, the baathist party allowed a tumor to grow but providing it with all that it needs to grow without any disturbance, and i'm talking about the religious infestation of the sunni population and the bolstering of the egoes of the big characters around them.
Infact, i am against economic liberty because when haafez took over, that was one of the things that made syria grow fast and promisingly, which then his son wanted to loosen the holds that hafez had erected which ended up in ruining Syria both economically, and military.
After all i still remeber the day when syrians bragged about how 75% of the income has gone towards building our military and in that very same breath have the gal to even mention how russians were surprised by how our military was holding out when they had such a shitshow of weapons.
>inacts socialist policies >oh look they say they are pro arab nationalism no, being a different tint of socialism is not excusable. Since when was it okay to defend cancerous ideologies? I'm syrian you twat.
Jonathan Fisher
Aren't Israelis with a plan to deport/genocide their arab population ?
Also, anyone in Israel to understand that demography skyrocket when you're oppressing a population.
Michael Reyes
Nice meme
Ethan Barnes
>no, being a different tint of socialism is not excusable. What socialist policies? Nationalization?
Joshua Flores
>I'm syrian you twat. syrian=/=larping diaspora that doesn't have the balls to live in syria
Lincoln Evans
Even if you ignore the Arab issue they have a demographic problem of not enough people being born, the only group that has a positive birth rate are the insane orthodox jews
Colton Campbell
Btw, it seems that Israeli "jew" women are now on the verge to surpass Arab women fecondity (3.16 against 3.11)
Isaiah Collins
are you brain dead? look up what they've done. the current syria after Bashar took over isn't socialist. The socialist party lost their grasp and turned to a shit show.
100%, stayed there until sunnis started infesting my area then i said fuck it, i'm not going to waste my life being someones ticket to an eternity with 72 virgin mermaids. Fuck the army, there was one branch that was worth fighting for, and once i checked which one i end up with, turns out i wouldve ended up under some sunni twat who later got all his men killed because he "didn't want to kill his brothers" .
fuck that cancer, fuck arab nationalism, and fuck the shitty excuse of an arab identity.
Dylan Jackson
Is that including orthodox birth rates as well? Because thats a whole new can of political worms and they're not willing to actually fight for the idea of Israel
Liam Scott
>Aren't Israelis with a plan to deport/genocide their arab population ? nope, the plan is to take over more and more west bank territory (under the excuse of anti terrorism for colonist living in the area) and not give the palestinians the israeli nationality so israeli can't be technically accused of apartheid and wont have to pay gibsmedats/provide services. Next take over is most likely going to be zone C of west bank, but for now it's the colonization phase that is happening
Elijah Nguyen
just for the record (2016 data) :
Israel birth rate 3.11 Usa birth rate 1.82
Charles Bailey
>the current syria after Bashar took over isn't socialist. Then what the fuck is there to complain about if the Baath isnt even socialist at this point?
Brandon Moore
secular jews have birth rates similar to european women it's the ultra religious jews that have the high birthrate. Funny enough these people are against serving in the army. Israel is in a bit of a pickle
Benjamin Jones
the most important is the overall figure.
8 millions Israeli, out of which a fraction would really fight for their phony country.
In a real war Israel cannot afford a single defeat, because if they do, it's over with their imperialistic project.
If Israel want to attack Iran with SA, it'll be the end for them, even if they try to vitrify the country.
Camden Morris
It fucking is you twat. Look what the fuck they are up. After Bashar took over, they shat all over what the party stood for. The only thing the baathist party kept after haafez's death was that no one was allowed to mention them in any negative light. That is the only baathist thing about syria after bashar ruined the country with his shitty policies. After all, all syrians know that all bashar was good for was going from restaurant to restaurant. He's trying to live up to the presidency now, but fuck him he was the cause of all of this shit. I still like the cunt though.
Oliver Carter
and don't tell that US will support them, because US will not send troops. They'll ask a coalition to send troops instead, yet this time they will have hard time to find battle-hardened troops ready to fight for an apartheid state ruled by jews
Camden Myers
reminder that daylight savings ends tonight, fellow burgers not from arizona
Christian Evans
>US will not send troops Wouldn't be so sure, recently a US military base was implanted in israel
Kevin Lee
Does /pol fear the Black warrior?
Jack Fisher
Stop sounding like an edgy teenager. Syria will remain an arab country ruled by the arab baathist party, its the only thing keeping the country together. Without President Assad and Baathism, people will turn to religion and tribalism, and no one wants that.
Jayden Mitchell
Was Mugabe based because he was black?
Mason Rivera
>the baathist party allowed a tumor to grow but providing it with all that it needs to grow without any disturbance, and i'm talking about the religious infestation of the sunni population and the bolstering of the egoes of the big characters around them.
That is completly different issue. Partly religious, partly demographic, partly political but not an economic. Neither of those parts can be touched because of secularism of state and International meme courts that support "human" rights.
But let me tell you. Commie party in Yugoslavia was promoting "brotherly unity" of yugoslavians completly disregarding differences in religion and culture, even through we are almost ethnicaly same. The moment country started to crack, nobody was yugoslavian except retarded old people who lived all their life not being able to imagine different world. Then shit happened, war, genocides all over the place, exiling... you could say it was pointless, but it was not. Ethnic borders we drawn with sturdy line, no longer was it so blury like before. People cleaned themselves and the mess that was created.
Now what I want to say is not that Syria need to be fractured, but instead that Goverment should and must ackowelge religious, cultural adn ethic differences.
Every extremist can play nice hiding his view but only because he would be punished for acting on them. Sometimes extremist get angry because goverment does not want to ackowelge the problem that he finds. But the moment state cracks, he gets chance to act upon his beliefs.
It's really hard when ethnic composition of people is mixed up but maybe ackowelging difference and acting to help different communities based on them would be first step. Pretending that we humans are higher being that do not need indentity and metaphysical answers to meaning to life is what civilisation tries to do right now.
So to conclude. It was ineveteable... almost inveteable. I don't know the solution, but mayybe you as an Arab do.
Joseph Mitchell
you are right about one thing. If it wasn't for bashar, there would've been much more bloodshed, and people would've turned to religion and tribalism. No wants that. that is correct. but you are HEAVILY mistaken if you think people care about the baathists anymore. I will be frank with you and say his popularity is dropping. people might not show it to the western world EXACTLY because he's the last line that would get crossed for everything to go to shit. You think bashar pulling stunts and going around and seeing the people is just because he likes his own people? he knows his popularity has dropped and wants to try and reinvigorate the people to stay up for longer. he knows everyone around him is corrupt to the bone and has started reformations. and the latest shit surrounding the educational books turning into sunni propaganda did not help him at all.
Cameron Anderson
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Henry Turner
again thank you. And i definitely see where you are coming from here. and i guess i am kind of over reacting in some areas. it is definitely inevitable as you've said. however, part of the discussion is realizing our problems, doesn't need to end with a solution.
As for the arab identity, i see no solution other than dissolving it. The whole shit was made up at some point not that back in time. No one even identifies with it anymore unless they speak the language. Arab unification and other shitty beliefs related to that have been so tirelessly shat on that they mean nothing now. especially since every arab country backstabbed the syrians when this war started. not even the palestinians who the baathists helped themselves stayed true and grateful and infact joined the sides of ISIS against the country that helped them in their time of need and officially anounced thta they were syrians and should be treated no differently.
Noah Parker
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Alexander Mitchell
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John Young
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Alexander Fisher
bump
Eli Rogers
>I don't know the solution genocide for minority religions and cultural assimilation for minority ethnicities. That's how it was done here and it worked pretty well in the places it was implemented
Daniel Clark
bump
why is american time so slow? Is it because they are fat?
Camden Allen
>In pictures: Taliban forms elite assault unit in eastern Afghanistan
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (12:35 P.M.) – In a rare photo op, the Taliban released a string of images on November 2 boasting a newly established assault group that is based around Laghman Province.
The seasoned jihadist fighters, dubbed the ‘Special Forces of Laghman’ by the Taliban, were shown wielding AK-47’s and different types of insignia before the camera: Although mere speculation, these Taliban fighters will likely be deployed to retake lost turf in the neighboring Nangarhar Governorate which has gradually been transformed into a regional Islamic State stronghold over the past year.
In somewhat related news, at least 65 people were killed on Saturday by a massive Afghani air raid on Qatle Aam village near the city of Kunduz in northern Afghanistan.
Around a dozen Taliban members were also neutralized in the raid; however, many more civilians – women and children alike – were reported to have suffered the same fate due to the indiscriminate bombing.
Congrats, you made a thread that the Arab Baathist loves.
Bentley Long
Funny but since the thread's dead I'll tell you the real reason.
America and Russia are the opposites of the world.
Therefore the Alaska--Russia border is actually the foundation for the International Date Line, which sets where the world changes the date, and Russia is the first to move into the future.
Luke Perry
Because /sg/ has been dead for awhile now...
Lincoln Brown
>Graphic aftermath video from Idlib: Al-Qaeda militants shot dead in their sleep DAMASCUS, SYRIA (12:00 P.M.) – On Saturday, an unidentified gunman caused panic in the town of Ariha after he entered an Al-Qaeda headquarters overnight and killed four Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) fighters at point-plank range while they were sleeping.
The assassin then escaped from the scene and remains at large despite HTS launching a manhunt upon discovering the gruesome sight. Highly graphic footage depicting the aftermath of the attack can be found below:
According to a local source, one of the deceased HTS members was a leading commander while the others were his personal bodyguards and fought directly under his command.
The targeted HTS crew belonged to a faction that defected from Ahrar Al-Sham a few months ago as the latter Islamist group fell out with HTS, spawning a jihadist civil war across Idlib at the time. Therefore, some HTS activists blamed Ahrar Al-Sham for the assassination.
However, the Syrian Mukhabarat (intelligence apparatus) is also known to be active behind enemy lines, specifically in Ariha as the town remained a government stronghold up until 2015 despite most of Idlib’s countryside falling into jihadist hands back in 2012.
>The assassin then escaped from the scene and remains at large despite HTS launching a manhunt upon discovering the gruesome sight. Fucking based.
Adrian Ortiz
>sO wHaT Just fucking with you, have a last bump Doc. Later
Benjamin Harris
You have a strange Schedule doc
Zachary Ramirez
How so?
Jackson Sullivan
Posting at ridiculous hours,do you ever sleep? Im a Total hypocrite by the way
Jason Butler
Well it's the week end, plus during weeks i have to go to the hospital from 8 to 12 and then go to classes from 14 to 18 so since attending classes isn't compulsory, i sleep the afternoon and stay awake till 2-3 am (or later during week ends) >Im a Total hypocrite by the way Je te retourne la question
Joshua Baker
/sg/ I just found out Ismaili hate Sunnis and don't allow them in their places of worship Any further info on this?
Jason Nguyen
> Ismaili hate Sunnis and don't allow them in their places of worship
How could that be?!?
Ismalilis are bigoted racists afraid of Sunni culture.
backward barbarian Islamophobes.
Lucas Rodriguez
>Ismaili hate Sunnis not really ismaili tend to be very hermetic to non ismailis whether muslim or not.
Justin Hill
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Logan Clark
>sunni culture
Benjamin Robinson
I see he also said the Ismaili allow their women and men to intermingle in the mosque
Caleb Miller
because these threads are anti-american and anti-trump, most americans would be glad to see everyone in these threads banned if not jailed
Justin Moore
idk if 1am is really american time anyway. it's stuck in between things really
Dylan Cook
>he who? also you should take what he's telling you with a big grain of salt. Ismailis seldom (if not never) disclose the particularities of their beliefs, they behave almost like a secret society, so i'm surprised he was open about it. They hang out in their own community and marry other ismailis (at least for the non diaspora ones). they're almost like jews
Nicholas Jenkins
>these threads are anti-american and anti-trump >implying that's a bad thing
Shoo Amerikike
Carter Gonzalez
What happened in saudi? i just woke up because my mind is busy after last night happenings.
Adam Ross
more
Jayden Cook
I wouldn't want them banned. And that does not make me anti-American. I love this country, just not the government and its retarded foreign policy.
Brayden Green
T H I C C
Leo Lee
>Houthis shoot ballistic missile at King Khaled airport in Riyadh >missile defense intercepts it >Out of nowhere, 11 princes, 4 ministers, and more former ministers are arrested in anti-corruption purge, including billionare Alwaleed Talal >supposedly because Bin Salman wants to consolidate his power/clean house before becoming king
Joseph Ortiz
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Nathan Barnes
you're the kind of person im talking about, until people in this thread learn to embrace the trump movement you'll never be accepted here
Blake Allen
>(((trump))) movement
No thanks, I'd rather distance myself from the Israel First movement.