French wants to give 1000 euros free minimal pay per month for doing nothing.
Are they retarded? Maybe.
Should we go there and get free shit from them? Definitely.
How can they be so stupid Sup Forums?
Is this how you destroy your own nation with inflation?
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This is the beginning of universal basic income. Just like socialism and debt it will make it here in the next few decades.
It will result in a fucking war and poverty. How can fucking frogs not see this? Every single fucking African and Arab will move to France.
Frogs can't see this because they are especially retarded. That's why they'll be the first Euro country to join the Caliphate.
>I'll be innawoods with my wind up radio, guns and MREs.
>It will result in a fucking war and poverty. How can fucking frogs not see this?
Impoverishing the middle class is the goal, to make the national self-determination impossible, there won't be war in a classical sense as all powers are monopolized in few hands, the economy will freeze but not collapse, as the supply of basic needs, food and consume goods will continue (as opposed to the USSR)
>Every single fucking African and Arab will move to France.
this happens anyway. The more interesting question is, will they also come to Poland. My Polish colleage tells me some disencouraging stories about the alliance of clergy and urban bourgeoisie to import more wogs to Poland.
>no welfare
>shitty infrastructure
>shitty public transportation
>no universal healthcare
>shitty education
>high crime
>sprawl
why is america good again?
>lots of welfare
>interstate highway system, airports and port the envy of the world
>we just drive, niggers like to ride in busses
>We buy our own healthcare and don't subsidise nigger outside of existing welfare programs
>Look at the national discoveries of various elements and tell me how terrible our education is
>If you go to nigger neighborhoods
>we have lots of land, why not use it?
Show me your american flad UN nigger.
I am all for this coming to the states as well.
think of it this way
the "federal reserve" or whatever other jew bank you might have in your country, does not back the money with anything. It's imaginary, it's monopoly money.
the government must request a LOAN from the jews, so the bank prints out $20 billion and requires a payback of $20 billion plus interest (the interest cannot be paid back, it's impossible as it was never made in the first place)
This imaginary money can be printed at will, and is, to benefit the elitists in the government.
so tell me, why would it be wrong if everyone were allowed currency for basic needs, food, shelter, electricity, water?
we sure aren't upset or trying to abolish the jew banks, why would it be wrong to use them the way the elite use it?
nah itll destroy europe before it comes here
brb moving to france
The number of fags here talking about an article they did not read.
A meme party is just lauching a crowdfund thing to experiment their meme policy.
In the future the EU will be regarded as one of the most corrupt organizations in modern history. How it nearly destroyed Europe to just get the leaders of EU rich. At the expense of European lives.
This is good for my country. Swarms of gypsies will leave ro and overrun france when they hear of this
Fake news, listening to national radio every morning there was no mention of such a thing, pls investigate more before posting
The reason money is valuable is because some people have it and some don’t. If we gave everyone money it’s like no one has money. People are fucking retarded.
I'm half french half german with a german passport only. How can I get free gibs?
>some faggot irrelevant party wants to start a meme that will never pass into legislation
>FRANCE GIVES FREE MONEY
I keep hearing that we need third world immigrants to keep the economy afloat but at the same time hear global populations need to go down and first world jobs are becoming scarce due to automation.
I wish I lived in the 60s and 70s when a man's time actually had value and the gibmedats were minimal.
>Is this how you destroy your own nation with inflation?
Welfare here scales with inflation so I rather stay here.
>This is the beginning of universal basic income.
This can only be done in a racial pure white/Asian society. You need like minded people to form community so they cooperate and create stuff to contribute to the economy. Third world "people" will only drain the system and never give anything in return.
Lots of welfare? Do you actually think that's what your country has? Why don't you look up what you'd be eligible for? You'd get at most a small amount of food stamps, and most likely nothing at all.
Its crowdfunded not by the government, retarded plumbercuck
Gib milkers
That's not how money works, amerilard.
It's better than selling bonds out of thin air. At least real people will benefit
This.
The ECB wants to artificially raise the inflation rate by giving people free money AKA basic income.
Higher Inflation rate = Euro loses value
Less valuable Euro = Exports become more lucrative
More exports = Higher GDP
This is why China is constantly manipulating the value of Yen. They want to keep it less valuable than it actually is in order to make their exports more competitive.
This is why India and China started "distributing" money in the 90's, that's why you see so many rich Indians and Chinese in Britain, Australia, Canada and USA. But only the elite and well connected Indians and Chinese received all that money.
The difference with the EU is, that distribute the money to ordinary people because the birth rate is too low.
Can I have 1000 euros then?
Because the welfare state causes people to drop out of the consumer economy
it's a experimentation, the money is collect bty donator who agree to see what happened next, the state has nothing to do in it
it's a scam from a green / ecological party. They want 24 k€, that's only one year, 2 persons or 2 years one person, what are they going to do with that, it's not an experiment.
It's basically intended to create traction and """"evidence""""" for Universal Basic Income, i.e. communist fraud.
They won't include any quadriplegics who drop out of all medical care to survive on only 1000 Euro a month and hence die, as UBI would mean. Basically gather a lot of people who really want something, give it to them, then use their comments about how happy they are with what they got to imply that we should reorder society to make this the norm.
>My Polish colleage tells me some disencouraging stories about the alliance of clergy and urban bourgeoisie to import more wogs to Poland.
It's true, unless we get an actual Catholic on the Throne of Peter and establish a strong monarchy in Poland in the next 10-30 years, shit's really gonna hit the fan.
The clergy in here is not as cucked as in the west because they try to stay faithful to the JPII's teaching, but they are still quite cucked and most bishops give the Traditional Latin Mass a big no-no. Also, the Primate of Poland is a heretic lover who celebrates protestant deformation, so that explains why he also wants to import a ton of mudslimes.
All of this wouldn't have been a thing if not for Vatican II and the kike and protestant infiltration of catholic seminaries.
Get free money invest it in uk stock market for a year.
Then spend next few years buying
British goods to collapse the European union.
And make profit
The only way to give poor people more money is by giving rich people less money. basic income won't work without tax reform, otherwise it's the middle class that will pay for it.
nuke this continent
There is no such thing as “money for nothing”. If you’re getting money that you didn’t earn, someone else is earning money that they didn’t get. It’s completely unsustainable and is one of the reasons why redistribution always fails
Seriously i don't fucking know why but a lot of young greeks go to poland.
Hell im 18 and everyone, family included says i should go to poland.
>free 1000 euros to everyone
>increasing migration from subhumans who won't work
Oh boy, this is going to end WELL!
What the actual fuck?
Euros country export to other euros countries.
EU wants basic income for everyone? Bullshiet
How much. 300 € per citizen? They surelly will become rich citicens..
Farmers with a lot of lands are receiving free gibs from the EU in the south, small farmers dont
Yes!
Perfect! I'll triple my shipments. God bless France!
the robots are coming majority of people will become obsolete millions of fast food workers out of a job. Many shit tier job industries will vanish. the lower class will be forced to take a massive paycut
Hahaha that image.
Where is your statistical data mate? Half of Europe is socialist, especially scandinavia, and they have a much higher standard of living than most people in the US.
Would you mind if send them ours(and the turks) too?
stay calm and hodl
>implying rich people do anything
>implying politicians do anything
Rich people get billions by sitting on their ass doing nothing. Whole stock exchange does nothing, they produce nothing, they turn around most money.
Denmark pm does not agree
It's literally a lottery for one person under the excuse of "trying universal income". I'm pretty sure it's a scam.
I'm French and living in the UK (in the process of getting citizenship), like 1 million other Frenchmen.
The UK is actually a semi-sane place compared to France. To be fair eelv are a special brand of cucks.
Every citizen already owes 34.000 euros.
National debt is at 98%/GDP.
From 2008 it gained 30% debt/GDP and rising.
Minimal pay is SUICIDAL.
ITT:peoples that can't read the fucking linked article.
>like 1 million other Frenchmen
>"Frenchmen"
There is a legit argument for government granted "allowances", but doing so in the midst of a migrant/foreigner crisis is just fucking disastrous.
A lot of countries in the world are deep fuckt in debt like never before, this has to blow the fuck up sooner or later
Maybe we should increase tax for rich people to 90% like it was before we had financial crisis and debt.
Salaries have massively decreased in last 20 years, but they have increased in numbers, you just can't buy anything. Minimal pay should be set to 20000 euros per month, then it would be slightly fair. A house costs half million or more, 20000 is literally nothing, even less nothing is 1000.
They already did in 1988, and it still works.
Tax the people who profited from the depression.
>it still works
>works
Uhm no sweetie x
Did you see the selections for the French NT?
It doesn't even count non registered debt to pay pension of public workers. In reality, it's not 99% GDP but rather 200% GDP (at least 1/3rd of French people work directly or indirectly for the state).
>" French "
> The green party that didn't even have a candidate during the last election
Um no sweetie
What?
Why would you want to go to this fucking shithole
Team up with me, let's go to Germany
Why dont we have a economy board to discuss this kind of topics?
>>/econ/
Somebody has to talk to the chink moot about this
I'm sure the project will be backed by Merluchon and his goons.
>Giving people money for doing nothing
>Literally 1000 euros per moth, more than the mean salary in many EU countries
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What could go wrong?
No, remove all bosses, since they aren't needed. If worker works and on top of that takes preposition brainstorming advice to boss and on top of that drives around like a maid, then what do bosses do these days besides stealing money? Nothing at all.
Steve Jobs example:
Some worker: "here Steve Jobs we should have this idea of iPhone"
Mr. Steve Jobs: "sounds nice. Create a prototype"
Some worker: "here Steve Jobs, a prototype."
Mr. Steve Jobs:"looks good, please invent internet and other multimedia stuff"
Some worker: "here Steve Jobs, i added the stuff."
Mr. Steve Jobs:"very nice, this phone is so smart..hmmm...lets call it smart phone."
Mr. Steve Jobs: "i am the inventor of iPhone"
Stock exchange and banks of world: "*deposits billions on Steve Job's accounts*"
Note: Steve Jobs didn't invent, neither distribute iPhones and will forever be remembered as genius.
That's cause they don't deposit pension contributions into accounts.
>bosses
You mean managers?!
Also you sound like a clueless moron.
Not exactly, I think the money is loaned already but not officially declared so GDP/debt ratio doesn't go over 100% and banks keep loaning more money.
>Is this how you destroy your own nation with inflation?
Its 1 sure way that the pro EU destroys national identity.
> implying welfare is good
Fucking niggers
>crowdfunding
It's literally nothing, get your fact straight!
the establishment left (who were in power) run on this platform on last presidential elections and they hit an all time low (7%).
Don't depict french ppl more cucked than they already are ffs
Managers? No such thing. Another fake title that steals money, since money doesn't needs managing. Money should be stripped from managing and become static, everything dynamic about money value being different by regions around the world when we all use same dollar is nothing else than theft.
Those managers/bosses of economy like to claim they know how market behaves, which is a lie, since now that we have financial crisis they don't know shit how to fix it. They only claim to know when somebody else, namely the workers are creating profit for them, they do nothing but take credit, they know absolutely nothing and will know nothing ever. Boss should be the lowest paying job or eliminated, unless boss works too, like really work, where he's monitored by country to produce stuff and that stuff not being imaginary number, but actual physical stuff.
I was referring to the fact that pension contributions aren't deposited into individual accounts and they are spent right away meaning that previous contributions are gone.
>French wants to give 1000 euros free minimal pay per month for doing nothing.
>Are they retarded?
thre are just following neoliberal dogma to the core
neoliberal jew Milton Friedman argued for government handouts
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the only economic theory free of Jewish influence is Modern money theory, MMT
>EU destroys national identity by importing other nationalities
>no longer deal with nationalism balkanizing the EU
Genius.
>neoliberal jew Milton Friedman argued for government handouts
lmao fucking retarded shill
gtfo commie
>france gives 1k free of charge every month
>lithuania has 360 minimum wage that you have earn by working 12 hours shifts
Lithuania has also lower prices. And they aren't giving away money to everybody, they will have a lottery who gets money as an experiment, but that experiment is dumb since 1000 euro is worth wiping your ass with it when it comes improving life, since you can't buy anything but food with it.
> FREE money
> FREE healthcare
> FREE transport
> FREE school
I still don't get it, why polands and muslims try to go London ?
jeez.....min. salary here in greece is like 320 euros....medium pay is like 600 euros...for 12h work per day..... give me one reason not to go to france just to get 1000 euros for scratching my balls all day playing vidiah games!!
i've always figured that the infrastructure and bureaucracy necessary to determine who is eligible for what kind of welfare and for how long has to cost more with all the people that you have to pay to deal with approvals, processing forms, managing the offices where this happens, etc. etc. so if you just had one federal office with an online form you use to request a check and then everyone who requests is paid based on cost of living in their state it would either be cheaper. the people that abuse the system abuse it now.
on the other hand, the bureaucracy itself is a form of welfare, providing useless do-nothing office jobs to hundreds of thousands of people across the country at taxpayer expense.
Here in finland you get 1200€ /mo and it causes people to skip doing any kind of work while some jobs pay you less than that.
AAmerica (even California o think) has/planned similar but running under education bullshit
Because France is more expensive you dumb nigger, you will have even less money and roll like a bum on streets of Paris.
I'm on welfare for chronic illness (autoimmune that flares with activity)
I agree 100% that all welfare should be killed and left to charities to do.
If people are upset that there is such injustice to the ill, they will happily pay that money in to supporting ill people like millions of people do today.
Even I do it with the little money I can make each month online.
Welfare is too easy to abuse. Even more so when the Honor System is involved. The Honor system does not fucking work because people are naturally scummy when it benefits them most. That even applies to charity. (karmabucks, feelgoodbucks, whatever)
The fact that drug tests aren't even done is a worse issue. So many cunts would be put off it if they were tested Let's face it, even the ones that do non-standard addictive drugs are addicted to doing them, habits are addictive even if they aren't directly addictive. Yes, that even applies to you dumb weed kiddies.
The Nordic Model could be done, but in places like America and the UK, there is no chance of it working because of the way the economy works in those countries. The entire economy would need to change at the foundations to support such a model.
That would be extremely costly, so, in other words, already pre-cancelled before it is discussed. (literally, already shot down several times by pencil-pushing cunts)
>give me one reason not to go to france
its full of niggers
Anything free is usually shit. London offers opportunities.
Better toilet system
A few days ago, an user from your country strongly defended statism..
i tried to find something in english because none of you have understand the article neither french poster
>Because France is more expensive you dumb nigger
not really
Opportunities to wash dishes, no ofence whit people that do that job
In economics, a negative income tax (NIT) is a progressive income tax system where people earning below a certain amount receive supplemental pay from the government instead of paying taxes to the government...
- by United States free-market economist Milton Friedman.
Negative income taxes can implement a basic income or supplement a guaranteed minimum income system.
en.wikipedia.org
neoliberal IMF arguing for basic income
only economic theory in existence that is free of jewish nonsense is MMT (modern money theory) made by white Europeans for running sovereign nationalistic states
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No. Not inflation. This is how you make sure all the jihadist Muzzies they've imported,and STILL import, have money to support their jihad terrorism habit. The French are DOING to wipe France off the map and turn it into an Islamic hellhole as fast as possible.
London has banned carrying knives and acid, such opportunities. Living in city surrounded by niggers and crime, but hey Philip, look at that corporate building there, lets pretend i own that and benefit from it, muh big rich city. Maybe i will work for new Sheik inc. to sell property to Muslims in London, very good profit.
Where did you get that from retard? France's prices are the same, except for rental prices for a place because they are running low on houses. The rest are more or less the same prices. I know because i've been there. Next time do a research or get in touch with the real world cunt.
They did the same in Navarra with 900€
It's very expensive to live there so 900€ so it'd be safe to assume that people would rather still work unless they're irredeemable NEETs.
Now, what did people do? They payed 100-200€ to people that lived there for the "right" to rent a house or a room while they were living somewhere else where the cost of life was lower.
Result: Hard working people ended up paying NEETs lifestyles from other regions.