When did communism become appealing to cucks?

I'm hate nazism and communism, but I must admit that soviet communism was pretty manly and based.
When did communism become appealing only to cucks in western society? and why?

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>allowing government to take all your shit
>manly
ok

those drones in your pic are NOT real communists.

Because 'real communism' has never been tried.

because the think communism mean everyone is equal no one can be richer than anyone else. and if everyone is the same then they wont have to worry about people making fun of them. they are really insecure and it makes them feel better if everyone is equal.

I've already said that I don't agree with them. You must admit that celebrating soldiers and tanks is far more manlier than a man wearing a hijab or a pussy hat as a sign of protest...

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Any radical political tendency appeals disproportionately to the freaks and mentally ill. It doesn't mean normal people aren't in it, but the freaks are quite noticeable.
In Russia, where communism is mainstream (although not dominating at the moment), it's quite free from such attention.

Its automatically what comes to your mind after you discover the first inadequacies of capitalism. When only form of rebellion against the system you know is to be a communist, you will be communist after seeing enough Monsanto documentaries.

>but I must admit that soviet communism was pretty manly and based.
what a stupid opinon

these ones can be used on the psychological warfare front kek

You can't be a communist without literally being a cuck to your government.

Soviet communism was significantly more stoic, austere and traditionalist than any western capitalist society.

>Hate the man who is better off than you are

r vs K

Communism is inherently fake and massively homo

Some unironically belive "communism is about equality, everyone is equal and noone should have property."

Anarchists and liberals aren't Communists, that's only American Christian bullshit they pretend to deflect from their capitalistic problems that caused liberalism consumerism and legalized everything to enable more consumerism. USA doesn't wants illegal things you can't sell, because then they have less profit. They enabled gays by selling gay stuff, they enabled fatties by selling every shit, they enabled hormone changes by using chemicals in every food, because production costs less money.

2002, 2008, 2011, 2014, each a new plateau.

You can't be a capitalist without literally being a cuck to someone higher than you. There is no escaping being a cuck, user. No...escape.

>You can't be a communist without literally being a cuck to your government.

I know, that's why I don't like communism and nazism.
But in the cuckoldry spectrum old communists were at a lower level than modern communists

>implying peasants in a feudal society owned anything in the first place

Communism succeeded (at least in political terms) in places like the Russian Empire and China because it was actually a viable alternative for people who felt as though they would be fucked either way and had no prospects anyway.

Also, communism in the 20th century was almost always deeply tied to nationalism in the 3rd world, although Sup Forumstards generally won't accept that truth.

Socialists have always been granola eating sandal wearing with beards and sweaters knitted by their mum

this
western communism is a psyop for NWO

Stoic, austere, sure.

Traditionalist? Stalin was socially very conservative, but even under Stalin the old Orthodox Christian tradition was mercilessly attacked.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928–1941)#Sergii_and_the_Church

Because they back it with purely selfish intention here. I know that sounds paradoxical, but their heart is in a different place, softer.

Religious ideology is irrelevant. I'm talking about tangible things like family values, gender roles and social virtues.

Stalin was more antireligious than Lenin or Kruschev, but the things I've mentioned were pretty much the same.

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>tradition was mercilessly attacked.
orthodox tradition was.

you cant in all honesty imply that the orthodox church is the only tradition russia has.

religion was attacked only because the state had to be the only "god". Traditional values were kept.

Be a true Communist. Crush identity politicsof all kinds. And fight for yourself and the workers of the world
>muh gender muh bleeding heart liberals, muh give free wealthfare cause their black,fuck whitey.

youtube.com/watch?v=1j8ZE4p9WmA
#Bring back red terror

>state had to be the only "god"
yes, a political cult is still a cult and will therefore attack everything that might undermine its authority regardless.

>I'm talking about tangible things like family values, gender roles and social virtues
What they did with fags in that time? Killed them all?

Religion was attacked for one reason: the Church was Imperial, deeply repressive and reactionary institution, that positioned itself in opposition of the Bolshevik government. You shoot at a comrade, you better not miss.

There was a sensible middle-of-the-road policy. Stalin introduced light punishment for homosex, but noone really cared as long as they kept it under the rags.

>crush idpol
>coincidentally, always try to do it in white countries, and start with racial/national identity (^:

The state has cucked them, nothing based about that.

The old Soviet depictions of military strength were people forced to fight against their will, yet displayed as patriotic defenders. You don't want to fight? Prepare to have the NKVD/Red Army come and kidnap, torture, and brutalize your loved ones.

Communism has always appealed to cucks, any depiction otherwise is pure propaganda. These people were slaves.

>The state has cucked them, nothing based about that.
all european countries are cucked, even when we don't have an authoritarian regime. We are all becoming nanny states, the most pathetic thing on earth

Eventually you find out pic related

One cannot truly begin to understand communism and capitalism until they take their first redpill on the Jews

>Nazism
The pseudo science that everything bad is caused by Jews and Jews have some genetic gene that makes them crave the white mans blood.

What is with this idea you can't be at the top? People start successful businesses all the time.

>communism in the 20th century was almost always deeply tie to nationalism in the 3rd world
This. A huge part of commie propaganda was throwing off the shackles of American imperialism.

You can be on top in Capitalism, Communism, Feudalism or slaver Empire. I'm not sure what anyone's trying to prove with that line of thought.

Any political formation is about your personal interests being satisfied in the best possible way and justice being served, at least, from Marxist point of view.

So, how did the Working families of Germany and the German nation liked the WWII? Because it's pretty much all a third position amounted to.

Plus, an economic and political crisis and collapse in Chile, Argentina and Brazil.

fascism and feudalism arent really pro private ownership and individualism tho.

>The pseudo science that everything bad is caused by Jews and Jews have some genetic gene that makes them crave the white mans blood.

you must admit that the nazi stuff found on Sup Forums is funnier than aliens conspiracy theories!

Communism is appealing to cucks and losers because they were unable to compete in a capitalist system, which requires intelligence, creativity, talent, work ethic, etc. So they support a system which will supposedly even the playing ground for them.

good response glad I came back to read it

>You can hate whatever you want to
>No one give a fuck
>But when you totally defeat and mass killing the people you hate
>Every start to take you seriously
>That's what happen to them, Nazi lost the war no matter what the excuses are, lost is lost.
>That's why the lefties love commies's cock.
>If German had won, most in Sup Forums would be sucking Nazi's cock as well.

That's human, we never change.

They are pretty funny. Almost as believable as the eternal mick

Every System requires talent, willpower and awareness to rise and maintain your status.

Except in Archaic systems, you will be on top and wield power despite having no talent and effort, and social and economic dynamic of it will lead it to eventual self-destruction, as you may get on top by being detrimental to society as a whole and most of its members, and find yourself there just by being born in the right household.

Capitalism, while offering more social mobility and just reward than previous societal formations, is still far from socialist ideal of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his labour"

OH YES PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE SIR COMMISAR

TAKE ME AWAY AND SHOOT ME LIKE A DOG IN SOME BACK ALLEY STREET YOU HERO

OH YES TAKE AWAY MY HOUSE AND SEND MY CHILDREN TO WORK IN A KOLHOZ

Fuck off you western cuck

After the fall of the Soviet Union, Communism became a losing ideology, and nothing attracts cucks more than a losing ideology.

Is that why there's so many Nazi's and Ancaps on online anime websites.

When they were indoctrinated in our ironically socialism infested school systems, go figure.

How do you achieve all that if your family is dirty poor?

they become socialist because they don't understand how modern economies and society as a whole work, and when their ideas concerning the expansion of socialism are proven to be untenable due to really basic problems they decide that an authoritarian method to implement their ideas is the solution. after this there's no reasoning with them until they decide to see how communism is illogical for anything more than second or third world countries.

Communism, Marxism in general and Neoliberalism contest the modern world. Loosing a battle isn't loosing a war. It was the Nazis who lost the latter.

Work hard and get gud.

Why don't we have an oligarchic Slaver Empire still? After all, is a slave works hard, he may become the Emperor. Social mobility, amirte?

Communism doesn't work and it treats it's people like shit, that's not human nature.

The false hope that they'll have power over people and finally be someone that people take seriously. These people have been fucking rejects and freaks their whole lives. The promise of power is enticing to someone like that. They want to "get back" on all those who wronged them.

It begins from the "useful idiots" I think

If communism doesn't work, why does it has such a major influence in the world and throughout history?

If Ancap got it right with the human nature, than why did it never ever go beyond being a pure meme?

ever wonder why it's mother russia rather than the fatherland?

With that perspective ww1 was just a battle not a war because there were more wars to be fought. In fact every war is just a battle if you conceive it that way. Not using words in their appropriate context never ends with you guys does it? When will you cease arguing semantics?

>Matthew Broderick
>Robert Downey Jr.

Both belong to the (((tribe)))

Stephen Colbert is an honorary Jew

Because it's fatherland literally in the Soviet anthem, and both were used.

Real communist has never been tried!

And real capitalism has never been tried!

Oh waith!

homosex was considered a fascist trait under Stalin

I think it probably started with the rise of cultural Marxism. State enforced censorship, equality of outcome favored over equality of opportunity, shaming and silencing any forms of doubt or dissent; when these principles become accepted and encouraged, it's a much smaller ideological leap to socialism and communism.

I think this is also why you see a wide overlapping demographic between modern commies and SJWs: soyboys, feminists, minorities, fags, trannies, and other degenerates. Also explains why their image is so weak, compared to older Communists like the Soviets (I hate communism, but you have to admit that the Soviets had a tough image/good propaganda. Not nazi-level good, but close).

I sense a strawman? He wears my clothes and speaks some of my words, yet he is quite clearly made of straw.

The philosophy in contention here is not social mobility, it is individual freedom. Now you see the fight is not for freedom of will, all men are free to will. If we only desired freedom of will then anarchy would be the ideal system. No we desire individual freedoms, to be free from the oppression of other men.

>State enforced censorship, equality of outcome favored over equality of opportunity
Socialism is literally the equality of opportunity and little else, in practical terms. Capitalism is legitimized inequality by birth.

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when idiots heard about free shit, not knowing that they will be FORCED to produce this shit in the factory.

I'm libertarian not ancap, communism greatly increases production of a country at the expense of it's people and their liberty, plus my country was founded on opposing views and is not compatible, communism would be our natural enemy.

millenials are the lost generation, they don't want consequences for their decisions, they don't wanna work, just live in the matrix, and they want others to pay for it

I joined the military, it's pay for what you do, but they don't wanna work at all, they all wanna work pizza jobs and expect free shit.

they are weak minded, all wanna be ecelebs and rockstars, without putting in any work to make it happen

It's because the lefty Antifatard cucks still live in Mom's basement and work at McDonald's (if they have a job at all). From this vantage they think they will get free stuff, get to have their own apartment, and their former highschool classmates that are now making money with real jobs will be brought down to their level.

Please elaborate how you define Socialism. Be specific about policy.

What was odd is that when I was 15 in 2008, I was a hardline communist but it was near impossible to find fellow communists online or in real life. Only revleft really existed as a site and it was mostly dead.

Now that I'm a conservative, I at least have lots of fellow conservatives in real life but social media and the internet is full of fucking marxists.

Occupy Wall Street and the idea of a robin-hood economy. They wanted the fantasy of taking from the rich and giving to the poor to be a reality. The goal during OWS was forced wealth redistribution and people were told that if all funds were distributed equally that would be about a quarter of a million per person per year.

OWS died, but the idiots lived on.

Socialism is literally forcing those with more to give to those with less at gunpoint. Ps nature assigns us inequality at birth, not capitalism.

I guarantee most communists don't even know what a hammer or a sickle is used for, it's for hard work.

So you're saying that Capitalism is Evolution, so communist must be degenerates.

Why should one person not work at all for what he gets, and the other person work relentlessly for the tiniest chance to get what the other person has and a huge chance to fail miserably halfway?

Capitalist inequality of possession of capital is no different than Aristocratic inequality of a feudal monarchy or despotic kingdom in its essence. Only socialism is a concept that strives to achieve the true and final meritocracy.

>No we desire individual freedoms, to be free from the oppression of other men.
This is just some ideological bullshit that noone believes at present day and age. A homeless person is less free than a slave. You are always oppressed by those who exploit you.

I bet donald trump does more in 10 minutes than you've done your whole 16 year old life.

You really just sound like poorfag beggars at this point, with cardboard signs, not wanting to work.

There's nothing "based" about helping to force millions of innocent people to starve to death all because you're afraid of your comrades who are afraid of you who are afraid of your comrades etc. It's a group think-based atrocity.

What I work out and my land belongs to no one but myself and yes I'll kill to defend what is mine from communist scum who would dare to take it from me.

Why don't you go after jewish bankers and hollywood billionaires fag?

oh shit, that would require work, so let's attack the working class, good fucking plan fucktard

I always thought commies looked like the cheap B rate ripoff of Nazis/fascist.

>What I work out and my land belongs to no one but myself and yes I'll kill to defend what is mine from communist scum who would dare to take it from me.
Did you kill many US government officials and tax collectors, who enforce the Sovereign right of American state over all its' lands, little LARPer?

youtube.com/watch?v=d68vVVpoeaI

did you kill an official? I'd like to hear more

also tell me how the USA is opressing you, I'd like to know more how you can freely say shit, and no consequences, unlike marxist tyrannical governments

Actually, yes. They died in a rat infested prison.

I hope it's you Kim or you're just an underage larper faggot.

I imagine Kim solving captchas on forchan to shitpost retort in my sleep

it's the ultimate cuckoldry

cucked out of a nation

>did you kill an official?
No, I didn't kill a human.
>also tell me how the USA is opressing you
I'm not American, so not much. Billionaires control the government and the economy and culture. Everyone else enriches and empowers them through their labour.

>Be a true Communist. Crush identity politicsof all kinds. And fight for yourself and the workers of the world

i think you mean, become a commie and fight muh poor niggers and muh poor trans and muh poor others and muh poor disablites and muh pooooooor jews.
>also be privileged city dwelling cuck who doesn't understand that communism leads to poverty

>"That's not real socialism!"
>Never defines real socialism in specifics
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this is looking an awful lot like a no true Scotsman argument.