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PUIGDEMONT AND HIS 4 GOONS ARE IN BELGIUM POLICE CUSTODY
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now they have to testify, and the Belgium jury needs to put his ass into a plane to Madrid in less than 24h, if everything goes as planned
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Why are so against Catalonia independence? You are anti-democratic, being agaisnt the will of your citizen is the worst crime.
cut the memes, leaf
you know that referendum was against the law and the constitution
the independentists only represent 40% of the catalonian population (that even care to vote)
Independentists are literally stealing Spain's soil
independentists != catalonians
>Declare memependence
>Take free weekend
>Flee to Belgium
>Give up to authorities
Too pathetic to exist as independent country
Rajoy confirmed best politician of the century
I would have some bit of respect for the seperatists if they at least tried to actually fight for their freedom. Instead they're just bending over like little bitches and whining about how unfair the world is. What the fuck were they expecting in the first place? Break the law, deal with the consequences.
It was only a matter of time after the Belgian Prime minister deemed them "normal Spanish citizens" and refused to grant them any privileges.
Belgian authorities probably ordered them to surrender so they could avoid the humiliation of being arrested in public.
But that constitution is agaisnt the people, it laws should not be followed.
Do a real referendum and accept their choice. You forced them into a lawless society.
They seems to have tried to rebel agaisnt the Spain goyverment but it didn't come any good. Violence don't work anymore in the west.
>But that constitution is agaisnt the people, it laws should not be followed.
It is not against the people, because the referendum was ilegal
it is not that hard to understand
Catalonia wants independence is a fallacy
The catalonian independentists want independence, and that is not a novelty at all
the difference is using public funds for their antics, going agains the constitution and the law, going against the king, rebellion against authority
they are crlminals
this is not a problem of ideas; this is a criminal prosecution
the is a brief the judge has published, but is not in english, were she details all these activites, and why she is jailing them to avoid another escape
Tell me how they can achieve independence then. You blocked every legal ways, just like anglo did to Québec.
Here are the 10 bullet points the Judge has published, explaining the reasons behind jailing Puigdemont and his team
here is the real pdf, for anyone interested in knowing the truth behind this conflict, and not twitter memes: rtve.es
another fallacy
nobody blocked nothing
the laws are the same as 50 years ago
you can't vote yourself out of your country, because basically you are stealing that land from the country
at the bare minimum, to vote yourself out you need the support of the whole country (SPAIN)
daily reminder that Catalonia IS NOT A COUNTRY, CATALONIA IS SPAIN
kekalonia. And I support them. If they have popular support they should break free.
They cant
The will of the germanic gods and the EU is supreme.
Hail globalism.
It's going to be quite curious to see what Beglium is going to do.
If they keep them in Belgium they are going to get their asses whooped in the European Parlement and if they are going to extradite them they are going to get fucked over by Flamish seperatists.
You are the fallacy, imbecile.
Your constitution is illegal, you are just jealous that people don't want to live with you.
>You can't left your home without dad permission even if your are 18.
Fucking globalist cuck
>you know that referendum was against the law
That means that it would be invalid and and could be ignored by Madrid, not that conducting it is a criminal action.
And if even conducting a fucking POLL *is* a criminal act, then lex iniusta non est lex.
Your memeflag in your post is a burden now. Ask Hiromoot to remove it
So you admit there is no legal way for them to leave? Illegal referendum is not an argument.
>You are the fallacy, imbecile.
>Your constitution is illegal, you are just jealous that people don't want to live with you.
>admit their is no legal way
>hurrr durrrr their are illegals criminals sucks and should be in prison
>you are just jealous that people don't want to live with you
>t. Quebecois
I think every single person on this good Earth would rather live with a Spaniard than with you.
Your constitution pretty much gives your government the power to fuck shit up when they feel like it.
Seems like an accident waiting to happen.
Spain fucked itself sideways with every step they've taken so far with the Catalonian referendum.
yeah, lets ignore a referendum that costed 300mill e to Spain
yeah, I do. it is against the constitution. If they want to leave, the constitution needs to be reformed to begin with. And second of all, you still think Catalonia wants to leave. Catalonia != independentists memers
do you want to know the reality of the situation, and stop talking from media?
read the real legal papers, published by the judge, because you don't know what you are talking about
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You can leave if you go to the congress and present the plan to all the parties and they vote it there.
Ibarretxe did that with his Basque plan to vote and obviously got btfo by the congress. Secession plans will only be approve if commies get into the power (Or socialists which now are a bunch of cucks)
once again, read the papers
300 million euros for the illegal referendum to begin with
going against authority
declaring an illegal republic
do you need anything else? no, you just stay on the same muh violence argument
last time: you don't know what you are talking about
I don't read taco, sorry.
Better for us than every Moorish that want to live in France.
>I don't read taco, sorry.
not surprised, fallacy boy
Fuck you, Fuck your shitty country, you deserve every shitty terrorist wildfire and all the debt Greece has to spare.
>Better for us than every Moorish that want to live in France.
>t. leaf
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>Your constitution gives your government extraordinary powers when one region rebels.
Just like in every country in the world, nigger lover.
Rate.
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>HUR DUR CATALONIA WANTS OUT OF SPAIN
>HUR DUR YOU FASCISTS
>HUR DUR SAW IT ON TV
>HUR DUR ASSANGE KNOWS THE TRUTH
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>1,1 million catalonians march in favor of SPAIN, THEIR COUNTRY
>BUT CATALONIA WANT OUT, I SAW IT ON THE JEWYORKTIMES user, YOU TACO!!!
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you need junqueras in there
>Complains about fallacies
>First argument is that I am a nigger lover
Try not to be this stupid your whole life ok.
And when a region rebels by holding a mock vote most countries don't send the police to kick civilians teeth in.
Other countries are still held back by laws when a region rebels fucktard.
Your constitution says they can do anything they want once article 155 is triggered.
>when a region rebels by holding a mock vote most countries don't send the police to kick civilians teeth in
They do if the mock vote cost millions in public money.
This whole Catalonia incident is being pushed by commies and Soros.
Even the Catalonia flag didn't have a fucking commie star now they do.
Barcelona is just full of commie shit. And this time they didn't ever need a fascist dictator to solve the troubles.
No they don't.
They start an investigation and using the 3 branches of government make sure it stays independent.
Well... In the civilized world we do that anyway.
Add to that that they are punishing civilians for a crime committed by local government authorities.
Spain fights for the EU and ANTINATIONLISM.
We'll genocide catacuck nazis.
Punchin nazis is ok.
This isn't a one-time deal, they've been hokding these elections for decades, each one costing tax payer money, to get the result that they wanted.
You're on Sup Forums too you fucking Swede, if you can't handle being called a nigger lover just leave.
Barcelona is proud UNIONIST not sepaRATA. PRAISE EU. PRAISE GLOBALISM. KILL ALL NAZIS!!!
Els manolos win
>you fucking Swede
Not Swedish though but nice try.
That still does not justify kicking the teeth of civilians in.
You are meming now right?
>They start an investigation and using the 3 branches of government make sure it stays independent
>implying it isn't exactly what they did
Do you think the Belgian police is arresting these guys for shits and giggles ? They're accused (among other things) of mismanagement of public money for this exact reason.
And well, given that the central government stated, numerous times, before this mockery of a referendum, that it was an illegal initiative and that everyone participating would technically be breaking the law, I'd say Catalans had been thoroughly warned.
Mmmh no swetie~
See Ines speech, spain isthe macbine that kills nazis. Catacucks are Nazis.
They turned themselves in.
I am not saying the referendum was legal or seperation is even a good idea.
Spain just really fucked themselves over by acting like they did every step of the way.
My argument is that a government shouldn't use violence against it's populace.
They turned themselves in because a European warrant was transmitted to Belgium and they were inevitably going to get arrested anyway.
Also, if you call a handful of broken limbs "violence against the populace", then France has had a fascist government for its whole existence as a nation. Everytime a riot about literally anything from taxes to gays marrying gets a little rough here, the police don't hesitate to crack some skulls.
But the constitution won't be changed as the central government won't allow it. So there is no legal way for them to vote. And the Spanish government has no interest in discussing it. If you don't give them the vote and there is popular support you can't be surprised if they turn to violence. It all comes back to popular support. If you are so sure the majority would vote remain then why are you so opposed to them holding such a vote to put the matter to rest?
Well France is heading towards a fascist state quite fast.
The whole martial law (or whatever it's called in France) right now gets grossly abused by the government.
Better a fascist state than a caliphate, Sven.
They could have waited for a more lefty government to come and let them reform the constitution, but they decided to declare the independence in 2017 as fast as they could, care to know why?
The only thing we did wrong was be as nice to tell them not to kill people.
Kill and punch nazis they are not people.
I am still not a Swede but one country's problem don't cancel out another country's problems.
And who is the moral arbiter who decides whether you are a nazi or not?
You?
Violence should only be used in self-defence.
>be warned by the Constitutional Court that what you are doing is against both the spanish constitution and the catalonian regional statute
>be warned by your own legal advisers that what you are doing is clearly not legal
>literally upload photos on twitter laughing at the letters sent by the Constitutional Court
>repeat nth times in the latest year
>pass a law that literally consists in proclaiming that the Constitution is not valid in Catalonia
>be warned
>laugh at the warnings on TV
>"spanish law has no power here", "new legality"
>start spending secretly government money in "State structures"
>be warned that spending government money in things will get you accused of prevarication
>laugh at the warnings
>try to declare independence
>be warned by your own legal advisers that what you are going to do is not legal
>do it anyway but retreat 8 seconds after, which makes the legal situation hard to understand
>be given an opportunity by the government to back down and warn that if he does not, the 155 article will be applied
>publicly laugh at the government
>be given another opportunity by the government
>ignore it, and knowing that the 155 article is going to be applied, declare independence to make followers happy even if you know it's going to be completely pointless and its illegality will only cause you troubles
Holy shit nobody in the history of this country deserves being in jail more than these morons. They have been warned a thousand times even by the legal advisers of the catalonian parliament, but chose to ignore it.
>But the constitution won't be changed as the central government won't allow it
yes, but you talk about central government like it is something imposed
the central government represents the majority of Spain
and Spain doesn't want independentists
it is that simple
if the central government finally ends up becoming commiecentral, then they will legally split Spain
there is no fascism here: THE CURRENT GOV IS A DEMOCRATICAL GOV, ELECTED BY THE SPANIARDS
>Holy shit nobody in the history of this country deserves being in jail more than these morons. They have been warned a thousand times even by the legal advisers of the catalonian parliament, but chose to ignore it.
and they are doing all this stunt just to use the violence and fascism card, because in reality they know their cause will not succeed because it is illegal
plain and simple
And before someone talks about representation by seats is tilted in favor of PP, it should be known that if all votes counted the same in Catalonia, the independentists would be a minority in the autonomical parlament
It would have been impressive as Hell Puidgemont & Co. not only turned themselves in to Spanish custody, but plead guilty to all charges. Then they would have had a snowball's chance in Hell of inspiring a real separatist movement.
But no, that knock-off Harry Potter kept on pushing independence in the most passive-aggressive manner I've ever seen.
The EU and the constitutionalong the state you fucking retard ancap nazi
Out of my swamp!
at least we got some laughs out of it
the truly unbelievable thing in all of this is that Puigdemont has the guts to larp this hard abroad
it is incredible
lie after lie
people believe him because you won't even think someone could lie this much, to even say 155 is illegal, while it was voted in the parlament
He is scamming independentists by selling them an invented reality
and he is scamming his fellow politicians, by disrespecting the authorities, the voting system, the constitution.... everything
his political career is over
and he should be happy if he gets only 4 years in jail
When will this charade end? There are currently more important topics like the apparent Botin's murder or the CETA's signature.
>they never escaped
>it was just some holidays you know
>right?
...
>implying he'll not make a deal with other parties to not serve jailtime.
I really don't have any faith left for our government. We don't have a party we can trust. Ciudadanos are EU cuckolds, vox is a meme, >ppsoe and last but not least fucking Podemos. I unironically will vote podemos next time so it makes right wing parties to do actually try. Can't make this shit up.
>El presidente de Israel al aterrizar en Madrid: "¡Viva España!"
BIG IF HUGE
>I unironically will vote podemos next time so it makes right wing parties to do actually try. Can't make this shit up.
I am desperate. Don't judge me.
Btw we need more drawfags and more daily threads. How the fuck can /eirepol/ be bigger than fucking /spa/
>Tell me how they can ...
They can't, we will invade Québec instead, best timeline ever
IMO the problem is people create a bunch of threads un-civically, instead of using the /SPA/ tag
quies sentil-la?
quies sentil-la en el pecho?
MAKE /spa/ GREAT SOMEDAY!
drawfags: draw. anons: post.
>Esta mañana hemos aterrizado en Madrid, la capital de España, en mi primera Visita de Estado. Vengo invitado por mi amigo Felipe VI, Rey de España, y por su esposa, la Reina Leticia. He venido a visitar a la floreciente comunidad judía, a reunirme con el Presidente del Gobierno, a hablar en una sesión especial ante el Congreso y el Senado, a ampliar y estrechar la cooperación económica entre los dos países y también, por supuesto, para visitar el Bernabéu, como no podría ser de otra forma.
>Mi esposa Nehama y yo esperamos que sea una visita apasionante.
>¡Viva España!
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>Spain
>Invading Québec
Have fun when Trudeau declare a Jihad on you.
the user/s that did these is reallytalented.
democracy gave you Trudeau. That is enough of a reason for western civilization to drop it.
I support the Waifu Princess.
>implying that's a bad thing
We used to live to remove kebab. That was the glue that made this country.
qt princess hope she grows up to crush the catacucks and rule with an iron fist
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>Making political prisioners.
Another hundred years of problems for something that could have been fixed in two days and under the table.
never let your dreams be memes kids
fight the powah
the new catalonia flag just debuted
I see two noncountries in that pic. Trully fascinating.
that is really nice got more?
>just like Anglo did to Quebec
Your transfer payments, madam
We all want you far left idiots gone anyways
i have this one of the battle of rocroi
i have seen this one quite often
that's known as "the last tercio". Spanish tercios dominated european warfare for the XVII century but then the battle of rocroi happened and they lost their reputation. The funny thing is that the tercios didn't fuck up, the cavalry did and that costed the battle.
Isn't Catalonia to Spain what California is to the US?
el que faltaba pal duro
a pescar unos votos
And this?