I know why the west is dying

Nobody makes art here anymore.

Real art.

Art that isn't a postmodernist blended-up everything means anything nightmare.

Why aren't you making art, Sup Forums?

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Some music too

Parodies

because i dont have any talents and doing anything takes effort

I made an homage to pollock on your moms face last night

Our cities will be rebuilt.

You can't sell it. The jews wont let you.

Instead, they pay for people shitting on a wall and call it art.

I should know, I tried.

You get nothing.
It's time to gas the fleas out of society.

There are actually people who still make art - real art - including marble statues of the quality posted in your OP. They just don't get much attention.

Part of that is the media's fault, promoting degeneracy, etc.

However, part of that is ironically the right-wing's fault. Us, yes, us, we are part of the problem. Rather than finding these true artists,and promoting their work, we spend all our time and energy bitching about the degeneracy.

Sup Forums and the right-wing in general needs some more positivity.

We need to take iver the american automotive industry

We need to start with car design, get rid of the emasculating cuckmobeles then move onto ndustrial design in general too

m.youtube.com/watch?t=99s&v=bq-C6gSw3lw

There is no hope, millenials on the right are wasting too much time on Sup Forums

>Why aren't you making art, Sup Forums?

Money. It's nearly impossible to make money as an independent artist these days. You either work for a firm like most of the anime nips do or you try to slave it out as a freelancer. The other option is to facilitate money laundering through the "fine" art market but that's a whole different game.

Also photography killed off a lot of it. Video killed the radio star, photography killed the painter.

I switched over to making custom wood furniture years ago. There is still a market for that thanks to the alternative being Ikea grade laminated particle board (cheap shit) dominating the market. Just a side thing for me though, not my main source of income.

Yes, more positivity is key.

Both the left and right right now are all doom and gloom.
We've forgotten that the MAIN reason people were promoting trump is that he was actually offering some POSITIVE western examples and hope.

It needs to continue.

This all day.

T. Art degree fag

Define art.

>Real art.

Art is subjective and i doubt the productivity of sculptures defines the success of half the globe. Kys

Artists now do art for money ,even the good and passionated ones, the love for it has been lost for too long.

>artistic relativization
>that flag

It's not just the sculptures, it's the paintings too, dripping with meaning and purpose.

Your pathetic "art is subjective therefore shit on a canvas is exactly as valuable as the Mona Lisa" comes from the same dark place in the human soul that makes excuses for communism.

it isnt because our art doesnt liik like that
its because WE dont look like that

oh but i am user, i am

Buy me a giant slab of marble and I'll get to work creating a monument to President Trump.

Anything that attempts to explore meaning.

Yes, modern art is still art.

I just think it's stupid/dumb art.
It asks the question "how much can you fracture sense?" and the answer is "infinitely", there, done, there's nothing more to it.
Nothing else for the genre to explore...

It's over.

>However, part of that is ironically the right-wing's fault. Us, yes, us, we are part of the problem. Rather than finding these true artists,and promoting their work, we spend all our time and energy bitching about the degeneracy.
>Sup Forums and the right-wing in general needs some more positivity.
Maybe someone should make a blog or website that aggregates these quality artists work together in one place so we can all keep track of it and support it.

you have it backwards. because the west is dead, nobody produces great art.

The two can help each other.

Damn dude. Those are nice. Well done.

(((Conceptual art))) is the problem. Art should be valued for the skill, invoked emotion, and vision it inspires. Nowadays modern art is for edgelords who want to paint with their cunts or make kkk hoods out of flags. Its all shock value with no substance. Return to the old ways and share a vision of a better future.

>T. Art degree fag

Yeah me too. Fell for follow your dreams meme. Let the good times roll.

>Art is subjective
t. schlomo

A LITTLE THING CALLED MASLOW"S PYRAMID OKAY BUDDY

hi i have my lizerd on you tube and watch video of my lizerd

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE REPTILIAN SCUM

>Why aren't you making art, Sup Forums?
NOBODY fucking pays A LIVING wage to artists except for liberals
we've had this thread before by the way
go find me a conservative or a right wing community of some sort that is willing to support an artist by actually making it feasible to make anything without government support
but you can take the easy route and just assume all artists are libtards or something like that

Wish my parents would've slapped me upside the head when I told them I wanted an art degree. Now I work in education and have to listen to feminist drivle all day. At least I get to help empower the youth in my own way, without imposing my beliefs on them. A revival of the arts is truely needed though. At least we have spent time cultivating our soul instead of selling it to the highest bidder straight out of the gate. That feels good man.

I miss real art.

how do u think you get a talent hungarybro

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Ha! My main job now is private security.

Could we pool shekels and commission some real art? Like pay an artist to make white honoring art. It might be money well spent.

I missed these threads

Sounds comfy desu. Good for you.

Egg tempera paintings give me life.

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions.

1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3)It determines what is held sacred in that society.

For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.

1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.

2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.

3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.

The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.

Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.

Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.

Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.

Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
> Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.

this one reminds me of an ex gf

Real art: Naked women, muscular men and war paintings

Not real art: Everything else.

Am I part of the club now?

Are these threads made by ignorant cousin fucking amerimutts who are totally ignorant about art? I can't really see any other explanation

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You can't have classical art without a culture to support it.

You forgot landscapes untainted by urban sprawl and degenerate filth. If you're so knowledgable in the arts, why dont you share some of your glorious intellect with us.

>Trump offering hope.

Your trolling needs more work. We elected him to make liberals mad. We didn't do it because we thought he was a good leader, lol.

How do you sell it? I thought this niche occupied by "Amish" brand. I bet their stuff is mostly made in China.

Could you be any less of a cuck or is it just in your nature to spread your anus to cultural marxism?

This is real art. We need more of this.

All art must inspire motivation and beauty, modern art only spits degenerancy and nihilism.

Its all about who you know
Nepotism

Also advertising

Oversized tits are ugly and being attracted to them is as degenerate as furryfetish

Oversized tits and hips are a signal of fertility to build a society. They want you to believe that the female figure is slim and weak so you have mediocre offspring.

I do make art. I just prefer making money. Art is a hobby.

All those things spawn wonder and emotions simply by existence. IF art has to be explained and does not move or inspire on its own IT IS NOT ART. IT IS PROPAGANDA!

I do not need to explain youtube.com/watch?v=sGr6B6Rp4PU to anyone and it not be considered a thing of wonder and awe.

pic related does not need to be broken down into fine points to be thought provoking or moving.
"Jewish" art and postmodernism HAS to be explained due to it being fundamentally with form or function. It does not inspire the average person unless they have been "educated" on WHY they must appreciate such works. Art is supposed to move the soul and gladden or burden the heart and mind on its own. The great sculptures and works of the ancients are so admired due to our connection tot hem as our forbears. Such that a European can admire Japanese architecture hundreds of years old, some even thousands for its beauty and form but when I first entered the Compostella de Santiago in Spain I felt humbled.

My ties to my family history coming from Galicia originally, mean I felt a peace and calm beholding the works venerating the God of my ancestors. Art is very much a physical and verbal representation of your people and culture. This is why it was attacked so early on. Before I visited Spain as a teenager when I was a child and beheld St Marys Cathedral in Sydney, the first I had ever seen, I felt excitement, joy, wonder that this is my culture - my people. NOt the post modernist grey box building shit surrounding it.

I never had to be told any of this. It was never imposed on me to feel or think anything about such places, music, and artwork. All my friends who did art in Uni abhor the "classics" and think art literally means putting your own shit in a can. They roll their eyes when I showed them photos of Artigas tomb in Montevideo, Uruguay and called it imperialistic. I was proud such a man is still celebrated in a country much of my family fought and died for.

exactly, as a hobby.

They still do. You just have to know someone in that scene.

>colombian flag

Ill forgive you

the dissident right does need better music. I find "fashwave" cringey and uninspiring.

I like Burzum though, and a lot of music MDE uses/promotes is good.

Perhps we should start with language and prose, and poetry, and try to cut out wordiness

No, the West is dying because mudslimes and Slavic subhumans like you are flooding it.

The problem is that only homosexuals and socialist-filled institutions purchase art, and that directs the art market. There are people making traditional art, the skills are not dead.

But are YOU willing to drop $500 on a painting?

Do you even look at what paintings are for sale in your area?

Absolutely plebeian.
You're a nigger, it's the other way around. Art is the reflection of society, humanity. There is a lot to read on this matter, perhaps start with Ezra Pound.

Would making sculptures even be worth doing as a profession or even just a hobby?

You're an idiot if you think it's a one-way mirror, son.

Of course it's a reflection of society, but it too can inspire that society to be like the art itself; those are the sorts of positive feedback loops that create golden-ages.

>But are YOU willing to drop $500 on a painting?

Fuck yeah i would, if it really spoke to me.

It's not like a phone that will be outdated in a year and a half, i can keep it forever.

Plenty of people can make that kind of art. The problem is nobody pays them to do it. The people with money fall into one or two camps.
1. Crazy leftists who would rather spend thousands on literal feces glued to a wall
2. Mammon worshiping (((protestants))) who think spending money on anything thats not (((productive))) is a sin.

You want more respectable classical art? Fund art.

How old are you and water part of the us are you from?

Conservatives and normal corporations do buy art, as do the wives and daughters of them

We should all focus on indistrial design, specifically cars

Maybe pol should move to detroit

>what is advertising and sponsorship and front end webdesign and clothing/textiles

>It's not like a phone that will be outdated in a year and a half, i can keep it forever.

Good art can also appreciate in value. So not only is it decoration that "speaks" to you, but it may also increase your wealth as well.

i live in vermont, so it's basically only socialists from New York and other liberal shitholes who have money here.

Exactly.

I buy good classical recordings. Does that count?

You're an idiot if you think I implied that.
You're an idiot.
>I would spend $500 on a happymeal if it really spoke to me.

Art fag checking in.

oh people do make art.

now there is a modern degenerate fashion that takes a dump on the classics , but the heart of the matter isn't the art. It is one of the symptoms.

What are you even on about buddy?

>Swecuck

Gosh, i'm...
... i'm really sorry for you.

Art education is shit almost every where. For any polacks trying g to improve there skill if you are a painting. I recommend going to drawmixpaint.com. You can youtube the shit as well. Mark Carder is awesome and has a bad ass technique. Glenn vilppu is very good for learning how to draw the human form.

Your mom.
Show flag.

>For any polacks trying g to improve there skill if you are a painting
just learn yourself honestly
you love painting, go ahead. Don't go through tutorials and shit just do what you think

There's literally no country on earth more cucked than Sweden, so it's useless to try and turn this over, buddy.

Even Germany and France have more of a backbone than you poor, frail souls.

No fuck that having good instruction can save you a ton of time and wasted energy, painting is not rocket science, learn technique from someone that has mastered it then grow from that.

You should absolutely learn technical painting, but maybe 1 in 3 things you do should be you going off the rails and doing what you want.

If you go full blown "muh style" then you'll just be shit forever.

I tried drawing before, but I'm just not good enough. I'll stick with practicing my writing for now. Literature is art, after all.

Show flag.

Hey guys how is this for a business idea: I want to start a business that's like Ebay, but exclusively for art. Artists can set their own prices, work on their own time, and I plan to have local art shows where people can set up shop and sell their own products. I essentially want to replace this bullshit art industry where a collection of rocks is sold for $500,000.

My slogan will be "fuck fine art"

Because nowaday, you can't live off the kind of art in your pic.

Sure one could spent 5 years making a single marble sculpture in the same style as the ancient Greeks but there wouldn't be anyone able to afford it or interested in buying it.

I am utterly convinced that there is a conspiracy to create the most bland and boring
architecture possible as a means to demoralize the populace in america as another variable in
the equation to cause its downfall. Todays america has the most bland and broken down
architecture with all of the same copy and paste cookie cutter homes and buildings, that
causes depression without people even realizing it as they go to work every day and come home from the 9-5 grind.

>There are actually people who still make art - real art - including marble statues of the quality posted in your OP. ...Us, yes, us, we are part of the problem. Rather than finding these true artists,and promoting their work, we spend all our time and energy bitching about the degeneracy.

WE'RE ALL FUCKING WAITING SWEETHEART.

WHO!!!???

So kind of like Etsy?

Dude, nobody is good at drawing when they first try.

My first 100 drawings were nothing short of visual abortions. Especially if they involved human beings.

The act of getting better at art is itself like crafting a block of marble; you chisel your skill and refine it.

It is a learned skill.

We need a space elevator thread for art.

>a bunch of old naked white dudes made into stone
>art
lmao

Nigger detected

Even fucking 3d artists and professional videogame character designers started by drawing disgusting stick figures.

Alright, I'll try it again. Soon as I fix my stylus and improve more of my life, that is.