Can we talk about this?

Can we talk about this?

>sex burns calories that could be spent on an activity that improves human standing
>sexuality/fantasies occupy attention that could be spent learning languages, music or math
>sex distracts you from truly assessing a partner for things that matter: financial responsibility, habits, morals, ambition
>birth control is unreliable and causes problems in women's bodies
>condoms are bullshit, can't feel anything

pic related and pair bonding are the only valid reasons. If you can't support a family/children, you should not be having sex. Doing otherwise is disrespecrful to all other humans (the community) that will inevitably bear the weight of your spawn.

Inb4 I'm a virgin/represses/christcuck. I was raised in an atheist household and pursued hedonism all my life. I believed it was wrong to restrain my desires in any way. I fulfilled most of my sexual fantasies/kinks. I've had girlfriends (mine or other people's) who would do anything and everything I want. I've seen how depraved a woman's sexual desires can be. I've lived the media depiction of a lifestyle embracing wanton sexuality.

It quickly became clear that a much greater pleasure is denying my base desires and pursuing greater things like literature and engineering. Sex is beautiful, but is best enjoyed by a couple that has great respect for the creation of new life, as well as for one another.

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It is and always has been. Recreational sex is itself a degenerate activity, and was believed to be as such for most parts of human history. Maybe except in degenerate Rome before it fell and 20th century's (((modern science))).

Bumperino.

Sex should be a sacred act between one man and one woman. But I think that we should wait for the IOTBW thing to blow over before we put up new posters and fragment everything we've worked on.

GSP is the new middleweight champion.

if you want to live a holy life you dont have sex at all

period

if you give in to temptation and have sex you get a baby

then you have to care for the baby

then you remember this the next time you are tempted

not you have dirty sex every day and then get abortions- that is how you become evil

this isnt a fairy tale, its the stone cold truth

nothing worse than killing your own baby just so you can defile yourself

sex is temptation, not a status thing

no status in being damned, ask the damned

Nah, fuck off. Sex feels good, raising shitting machines doesn't.

You're not doing it right

itt: Buttmad wizards

If you think that fucking is evil,you are the biggest moron that ever existed,I'd rather fuck a dude than fuck no one my whole life.Fucking religious faggot!

>ITT permavirgins attempt to justify permavirginity
Can't say I'm surprised
>occupy attention that could be spent learning languages, music, or math
>using calories to improve human standing
Nigga you ain't doing none of this shit

Sex serves a very important function as a form of play and social bonding. There's no better way to solidify your commitment to a group than to surrender your body to it.

>birth control is unreliable and causes problems in women's bodies
i would love a link to the new england journal of medicine paper your sighting ... oh wait you dont have a paper corroborating your faggotry

i doubt you even have a daily mail link that supports your claim. the funny thing is i could agree with you and explain why but i wont because your a idiot

This.

It's a good idea but IOTBW isn't over. We should wait until after Christmas.

Cucks.

This.
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Tbh I'm pretty despondent about this because I can't find anyone irl who understands. Everyone who isn't religious buys into some degree of "sex is natural and healthy, you should do it as much as possible, science says so!". Even the best religious people try to avoid sex due to 'muh god' and shame, but they're still weak and give in to base urges because they don't understand the place of sex. Or, once in a relationship, they allow their shame to pervert it.

I look at my grandmother: she is 100 and lives in a 3 bedroom house by herself. She is lucid and healthy because she lives&eats modestly and one or more of her 8 children visit her every day. It is clear that her family is the source of her happiness & prosperity.

I asked her why she decided to have 8 children. She answered, frankly: your grandfather and I really enjoyed sex! He had a good job, so we had nothing to worry about.

None of the hedonistic sex I've explored (group sex, bdsm, tantra, etc) stands up to the idea of regular unprotected sex in terms of pleasure. And all those others, in excess, lead to some form of ruin.

But unprotected sex with a lover you respect to build a family you can support? You'll live to old age in happiness. No careerism or hedonism can top such an ultimate pleasure.

>who is genghis khan

Sex is phun but if you have a micropenis and everyone can see it you feel like the christian fag sourrounding Trumpf and the orangina itself. You start hating women or become religious. Poor micropenises.

You are correct sir.

>apparently died horribly of mystery causes.
>implying it wasn't STDs.

At least he didn't seem like the type to masturbate. Trump is the same way.

>if you want to live a holy life you dont have sex at all

You're wrong. A holy life is earning a living by contributing meaningfully to your community. Doing this while managing a modest home and collection of necessary possessions, cooking, cleaning, managing your finances, etc will leave you with only an hour or two in the evenings. This time is perfect for sex. Produce offspring as they come, a good job and modest lifestyle will allow you to provide.

Of course your weekend will be free, but higher pursuits than sex, like self-education and volunteering in your community are the way you should spend those days.

Some mongoloid that isn't among the "greatest intellectual geniuses" category.

I am monitoring this thread.

>You're wrong. A holy life is earning a living by contributing meaningfully to your community.


>Who are Buddhist monks
>Who are Brahmacharis
>Why do roots of Hinduism and Buddhism shun sex for higher pursuits in life.

For the average man, you are right. He is going to need a family, but the less sex he has the better.

That's neither Catholic nor Orthodox teaching. Non reproductional sex is completely fine in marriage, you just can't use contraception so have sex during the woman's infertile period. The Orthodox allow contraception if you can't financially support kids or you want to space out births, but for Catholics it's a complete no-no.

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You would be going against some Christian philosophers with that interpretation from the orthodoxy. Jesus also said imagining women other than your wife is adultery, one of the seven sins.

In practical terms, how much can you fuck your wife before it gets boring and you start imagining other women.

Good thread:

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That's true, lust is sin. Sex before marriage is a mortal sin. Oral sex, mastrubation are sins even within a marriage. I don't know about imagining other women while having sex with your wife. I'm merely saying what Catholic and Orthodox catechisms say, marriage sanctifies sex. Now as far as the Orthodox are concerned, they don't have a central authority so one patriarch can claim this, the other that, but I'm speaking generally.

Look at all the degenerate shills pushing "Do what thou wilt"

"it feels good!" blah blah blah

God gave you free will. Please use it to choose not to be a complete degenerate with it.

To add: your rate of reproduction will be regulated by spending your evenings too exhausted from caring for an infant to have sex. Once a child is a toddler and sleeps soundly, then you will have sex freely enough again to reproduce. You can expect about 2-3 children a decade, leading to a healthy family between marriage age (23-26) and menopause.

Believe what you must about me. But ask yourselves: am I truly leading my best life? Am I as deeply happy as possible? Will the most likely outcome of my lifestyle sustain this?

What I'm describing is right. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

>group
>what are stds and unworthy partners
Agreed about the functions, but is it not obvious that a committed relationship is their proper place? Would you happily raise another man's child?

I don't, I've just had most partners complain about side-effects. My doctor friend tells me it's good for women, but the women tend to report otherwise. Hell, browse the most genuine feminist blogs and you'll see they're turning on the pill.

Regardless, it (the person responsible for appropriate administration) cannot be relied upon to prevent children, and as such, you should still only be having unprotected sex in a committed relationship where you can afford to raise the children.

I see what you mean. Orthodoxy nor Catholicm bans you from not having recreational sex in clear verses, but I don't think its something that is celebrated or recommended either. Tesla and Newton are both good examples of devout Christians who chose to remain celibate as they were convinced sexual relations would disrupt their life's work.

>i would love a link to the new england journal of medicine paper your sighting ... oh wait you dont have a paper corroborating your faggotry
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23528282
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnins.2014.00256/full
Notice how retards always write poorly like this guy and appeal to authorities without even realizing said authorities contradict him 100%.

Your last paragraph is so fucking cringe. You are clearly a neckbeard incel

Most catholics don't care, I know that for sure. I'm not even sure most young people confess it during confession, if they even go. God knows how many are having premarital sex and cohabitating and receiving holy communion. And the Church is kinda ignoring the problem, the approach for the last 50 years has been ''hey, people are disobeying the teachings, let's just get rid of those teachings''.

>God gave you free will. Please use it to choose not to be a complete degenerate with it.
This is so right and so important. Nothing happens because of God wanting this or that, things happen because men want it or pray for it to happen. The choice is yours to resist temptation, to not sin.
Thinking about women is sinning.
There is almost no writing about marriage in the new testimony, a real Christian should only worship God and not a woman. Jesus Christ was clear about that, you have to love God more than your parents, more than your children, more than your wife.
The easy way for Christians is to not have business with women in the first place and dedicate your life to God only.

YES!
Spread the good word.
No porn>No fap> No skank

Church has been subverted by jewry/satanists. Heck I see the current Pope overruling the 1950s decree to declare masturbation not a sin anymore.

Good thing is Trump knows the Pope is trash and is close friends with good people in the Church who could replace him one day. Lets see.

He can't say mastrubation is not a sin, that's moral teaching, he can't change that. If he says that he becomes a heretic immediately and ceases to be pope. Popes can change disciplinary matters like celibacy, canon law, conclave rules, religious orders, etc. But they can't change teaching that pertains to faith and morals.

As for future popes, Parolin is the leading candidate and he would be Francis 2.0. Sarah is also a strong candidate but he's very old. The third most prominent one is a bishop from the Phillipines would also be Francis 2.0. Sarah is the best we currently have, Burke has no chance.

You're clearly a nigger.

In addition, 1st Corinthians 7th chapter :
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.

marriage is ok, staying a virgin and unmarried is better.

Agreed, there is a place for men who abstain entirely. These men ought to be "priests/philosophers" who help others see the way of self denial. Or as deeply dedicated scientists/engineers/artists/doctors/etc if it suits them. However it requires incredible will and intellectual enlightenment. I recognize such a holy life, but I am not genetically predisposed to the capability for such discipline. The highest goal I, or most other men, within our limitations, can attain, is the familial life I describe.

Sex isn't evil, it just has a place. Find a girl, get a good job, be a good citizen, strive to improve your mind+body, then spend your little remaining free time fucking like rabbits.

I'm certainly not religious. If there is a god, I'm going straing to hell for the time I sodomized a girl I'd never met while a roomful of strangers looked on. Or for any of the other hedonistic stuff I've done.

Do you feel in control of your attention? Imagine what you could achieve if you were entirely free from the distraction of sex or other base urges, at a fundamental attentional level, for three years. Imagine
all the pussy that would throw itself at you and your success. Your urges are holding back your potential.

tfw i jack off to supplant human interaction

i'm lonely

>marriage is ok, staying a virgin and unmarried is better.

The same teaching as Vedic Hinduism or Buddhism.

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can i say one thing to you my friend i really love to fuck beautiful girls and i am really full of that but i experienced that if i am super horny and don't fuck my performances on everyrhing are exponentialy better

You can be saved too, user.

why should you trade a temporal and ephemeral pleasure for an eternity in Hell ? Why risking so much ? You sound like a reasonable person but yet don't choose the easiest path. This is why Jesus Christ was sent by God for all sins t be washed in His blood. Just by accepting that you are saved from an eternity of suffering.

Click my id and read my posts. I don't really believe in God (more like I think His existence is irrelevant). We have similar beliefs about sexual practice but not the exact same.

It has been obvious all my life that religious teachers have been perverted from pursuing the truth, or at least can find it no better than I could. It seemed to my young, cynical mind that pleasure was the most worthy pursuit in such an awful world. My relentless pursuit of hedonism has led me to philosophy and morality.

When I say 'holy', I'm speaking of the highest practical choices (which, separate from their motivation, I suspect God, if he exists, would respect a man for choosing).

I don't spend all day thinking about sex m8. I'd say I achieved enough for my age and having sex once in a while does no harm.

>>sex burns calories that could be spent on an activity that improves human standing
>>sexuality/fantasies occupy attention that could be spent learning languages, music or math

Yeah because browsing this anime pornography website is such an efficient use of your time, really made me think.

>having sex once in a while does no harm
it does, to you, to whom you have sex with. If it's not that satisfying why not totally stop ?

>anime pornography

Like the thought of women getting knocked-up

I like sex.

And if you don't, fine, I could literally not give even the slightest inkling of a minute fuck if you don't.

But
>implying you could even get sex if you wanted it anyway

Later on tonight I will be fucking my girlfriend, enjoy learning math

>enjoy learning math
you mean praying God and having a place in His Heaven for eternity. Enjoy your life of sin while you can.

>I like heroin.
>And if you don't, fine, I could literally not give even the slightest inkling of a minute fuck if you don't.
>But
>>implying you could even get dope if you wanted it anyway
>Later on tonight I will be shooting up, enjoy learning math

>sex once in a while does no harm.
Agreed, but is it the *best* thing you could do with a partner you're not raising a family with? Would it not be more satisfying in the long run to play music together or read a book? This way you can learn more about her, whether she's worthy of having your children.

If you are in a relationship, and have a good job, then by all means, fuck! Do it without protection! Let the babies arrive.

I am not advocating abstinence. I am advocating lots of sex with a good woman, in order to build a family.


I am not advocating abstinence. I am advocating lots of sex with a good woman, in order to build a family.


I am not advocating abstinence. I am advocating lots of sex with a good woman, in order to build a family.


I am not advocating abstinence. I am advocating lots of sex with a good woman, in order to build a family.

>Yeah because browsing this anime pornography website is such an efficient use of your time, really made me think.

You got me. I'm not perfect, my behavior is a work in progress.

Julius Evola begs to differ and so do I

Jesus died for our sins retard, didn't you get the memo?

What's up with all these "fantasy love land" threads lately? This blue pilled shit is everything that has made my life suck. To be fair, my take is a very personal one and anecdotal in every sense of the word...

But I think it's worth noting that, according to you, you've acted out your kinks/desires. Most of us haven't, especially the ones raised in a betafied, feminist household (guilty). I haven't even done a quarter of every dirty thing I want to do and I'll fuck it out of me until I feel satisfied. Maybe then I'll consider finding a "good" woman but for now... Fucking seems like good recreation.

and you'll be punished on this earth for them if you are a believer. But you don't seem to be this kind.

having daughters is how you continue the human race. Any ideology that does not have the safety and security of the family and the continuation of human life at its core is a cancer and blight upon society that must be eradicated.

Having a daughter is not cuckoldry you dumbass. It is how life is meant to be extended. If having a daughter is in violation of your worldview and political views you need to reexamine yourself, not biological processes millions of years old.

>"fantasy love land" threads
Idk man. I'm not really on about love, I don't think that exists. I'm just saying have lots of sex, make lots of babies, pick a woman who respects the realities of sex and who would make a good wife.

>it's worth noting that, according to you, you've acted out your kinks/desires. Most of us haven't

You're right. In order to find a girl who has the same respect for sex I do, I'll need to find a reformed slut I guess. But finding one who reformed early enough that she hasn't ruined her body with alcohol+drugs+stds? I got really lucky to wake up so soon, I was in a car accident and had to recover from two broken legs. Had it not been for the time off from normal life, mired in reading philosophy, I'd probably have chased hedonism until I ruined myself.