Manchu/Jurchen nation are the basest nation

They conquered China and Mongolia despite having no immunity to Smallpox and despite the fact was there was only an estimated 250,000 Manchu in total population.

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quick rundown on how they did it?

With excellent diplomacy, military tactic and organisation.

love this stuff but it belongs on /his/

Well I suppose it is political in that politics shaped the dynasty and modern history itself.

Chinese kick ass.
We're lucky that China is a socialist shithole. And even now they're basically #2 of the world, soon to be #1.

Just imagine they would have a better economic system...

Manchu weren't Chinese until they adopted their customs in the late 19th century, they were basically Siberian ice fishermen turned epic warriors in the East.

>conquered China
The Chinese love being dominated

Mongolia also, the nation that officially buttfucked mainland Europe and the Middle East Simutaneously.

True, but that isn't the context of the discussion. Still it's better than the other 90% shill/troll/retard threads drowning out actual discussion on the board.

Mongolia never conquered any of mainland Europe, or got even close, and if they got close they would have gotten destroyed by the terrain and the fact that Europeans actual knew how to deal with horsemen.

China kinda had massive civil wars all the time and the Manchu came in just after a very destructive one.

That is true because I did spontaneously post this shit. But people were doing Sup Forums tier shit setting up threads about their man titties on Sup Forums so I just thought fuck it and just show some awesome to save us from that horseshit and Euro/Canadian retard posting against the second amendment.

They didn't conquer it, they fucked it and went back to the Volga and Crimea region.

Pardon that is true because I did spontaneously post this good stuff. But people were doing Sup Forums tier shit setting up threads about their man titties on Sup Forums so I just thought fuck it and just show some awesome to save us from that horseshit and Euro/Canadian retard posting against the second amendment.

>American education

>be in the general area of China
>be somewhat less fatalistic, materialistic, self-defeatingly venal, cowardly, weak, decadent, opium-addled, greedy, phronetically illiterate, and prone to backstabbing than the Han
>congratulations, you are now the six millionth conqueror of China
>like they say about new boat owners, you are now eager to sell the damn thing

just because other people are doing it isn't a good excuse to join, honestly put this on /his/ and have a discussion.

Well, I think they left most of Europe, then became Muslim, went back and thus created Tartary.

I know more about the Golden Horde than you do.
Slavs aren't European. They stopped at the edge of Slav-dom because they knew they couldn't even fuck with 13th century Lithuania. LOL Mongols confirmed manlet pussies.

It's actually quite relevant because they were a confected ethnicity darkhorsing established political institutions, like the Cossacks, or, for that matter, us.

Slavs are Europeans who slash-and-burned eastward, then bunda'd slants like a Portuguese on weekend liberty.

>Slavs aren't European

t. 56%

Mongols are Buddhist

In what country does this qualify as White?

Mongols are Mongols, the associations with Islam and Tibetan Buddhism were pretty much like LA spirituality.

Lithuanian subjects were being kidnapped and sold into slavery by the descendants of Mongols well until the Russians stopped them in the 18th century.

I'm explaining what happened and why a Czech looks so different from a Russian.

Modern Mongols are, the majority of their leaders still converted to Islam, and before that many Mongols were Nestorian Christians.

Jews kidnapped people, especially Ukrainian girls, and sold them to the Ottomans and the Venetians. This was a major grievance and continues to this day.

Then, out of nowhere, fucking Japan. Bam!

They were literally no where near Lithuania proper, and they were defeated by Lithuania multiple times losing territory. It's how Lithuania blobbed up so much.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blue_Waters

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ching chong armor

European armor :

See:

Pardon I mean the ones in Eastern Europe and most of Central Asia. Yes the Mongol nobility ruling the Golden Horde, Chagatai Khanate and Ilkhanate converted to Islam. Khalka and Oirat Mongols converted to Tibetan Buddhism.

yeah i know many of the rump states became Muslim.
but i thought you meant Mongolian mongols because you said "went back".

oops
didnt mean "you"

Weinstein, several more to defeat.

To this day Israel is the world capital of human trafficking and Ukrainian women go missing after answering "help wanted" or "become a famous star" ads.

European armour was proven to be impractical hence why the French and Europeans longer use it and haven't since the 17th century. Mongol armour which influenced Manchu armour is still in service ceremoniously in the Mongol army.

Protecting their women is top priority from this scum.

European armor is a world-beater depending on what it is facing; "used ceremonially" is not a good contrast to "no longer used." There is a type of pared down plate armor that is still used in ceremonial cavalry parades.

Well after being given irresponsible amounts of armament by a bunch of priests from Portugal, then given armament from merchants from the Netherlands and Britain and realised feudalism was hindering their country.

>European armour was proven to be impractical
Holy shit.
To read this kind of nonsense from a british, even though some of the finest suits of armors were made in your country. Your ancestors are doing 360s in their graves.
Educate yourself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_armour

Feudalism is in very real ways still in effect in Japan: what held them back was pre-national infighting and the enforced limitation of merchants and tradesmen.

Well, you should try swimming in that armour then. Besides Britain has Diane Abbot so my comment is a non-issue for them.

>blobbed
You play any Paradox games?

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They are pretty much afraid of real women and babies along with them.

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Daily Reminder that Turkic and Mongols were /ourguys/ before they converted to Islam.

Nestorian Christianity spread all over asia minor, central asia, mongolia, india, and china.

Have you faggots ever heard about the mythical and legendary Christian King in the far east named Prestor John?
He was this king that was supposed to fight the muslims from the east and help Christians conquer Jerusalem.
Many people think that Prestor John was infact Genghis Khan.
When the Mongols sacked the city of Baghdad and slaughtered all of it's inhabitants, they only spared the Christian population because one of the wife's of Genghis Khan or Kublai Khan was a Nestorian Christian.

There was also going to be a Franco-Mongol Alliance to defeat the Muslims in the Holy Land.
This never came about because the Mongols went back due to civil war in their empire and the Muslims conquered The Holy Land.

The Turco-Mongols after converting to Islam, started to attack Europe.
These were known as the Tatars.
And Russia was under the Tatar Yoke for 300 years until the Tsar Ivan the Terrible rekt them in the Battle of Kazan.

Most of the Tatars got assimilated into the Slavic people and many were high nobility in the Russian Empire.
Mostly all Tatars are 80-90% white now and have assimilated well.

There are even Tatars in Poland and Lithuania because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth hired Tatars as their bodyguards and mercenaries.
They are Muslim but they are based Muslims that hate the sandnigger shitskin muslims that are invading Europe right now.

So any armor too heavy to wim in is bad armor ?

Bad news lad, that's every single suit of armor that actually offer real protection. Including chinese armor.

Of course, but I knew of Lithuania's medieval blobbiness long before EUIII and co.

Good games.

European armor was fucking amazing, the reason they stopped using it was because it could be pierced by gunfire, retard.

Check out "Male Colors." Japan was the most openly, widely, and completely gay country on Earth until Meiji.

My freind there is the Tuvans however and they are not Muslim they are Buddhist just like most of their neighbouring Mongolian nation. Turkish tribes were attacking Europe since Atilla the Hun who was a Turk.

They made it cool though.

Beautiful definitely. Practical that is a different story, you proved yourself it's ineffectiveness ultimately with the Mongol/Turk importation of the Gun.

Prestor John was just a wishful fairytale.

You can swim in Manchu armour albeit with difficulty. With Angevin medieval armour you are fucked.

My grandfather was actually a Nestorian (Assyrian), Aramaic was his native tongue.
Wish he lived long enough for me to learn. I'm also Polish and Lithuanian so this thread seems strangely pertinent to me.
That cross is really cool, wish could find one like that. I've never seen one paired with a Swastika before so that is interesting. Prester John was said to have lived in India and I know there is still a Nestorian descended group there today, I suppose I never considered the influences it may have had upon Nestorianism.

You are incredibly unknowledgeable on this subject. Of course not everyone has to be know all about plate armor, but when you don't know shit about a particular subject, don't go around spewing bullshit about it, like you are doing.
16th century plate armor was able to sustain gunshots to a degree.
The word "bulletproof" comes from a tradition armorers of the time had to shoot a pistol bullet at point blank on a newly forged breastplate. If the bullet did not penetrate, it was the proof that the armor was weel-made, if it didn't, good luck selling that armor.

Eventually firearms did became powerful enough to pierce even the thickest plate, but it's a process that took more than a century.

Also, firearms were not a Mongol or Turkish invention the earliest arquebus come from Burgundy in western europe. The chinese invented gunpowder, but the europeans invented guns.

also Nestorian Christians are the one's who preserved Roman books and thus these people were the one's who were scientists, doctors, etc.
They were the one's who started the Islamic golden age and thus this information traveled back into Europe and got us out of the dark ages.

I would like to remind everyone that nations/states/countries/kingdoms are always ruled by a single ethnic group, a great example of this is the Qing Dynasty which I believe is the most recent one before it was overthrown by the civil war and replaced with the Chinese republic (now banished). The Manchu was it's own ethnic group in China and took over the entire country with a firm grip over the money and government until they eventually started getting extremely incompetent mismanaging money and eventually the poor populace had enough of their shit. Their style can be seen being copied all across China in pictures during the 1800's with the trademark ponytail another example of an ethnic minority imposing its dominance over an entire people through its control. Why don't you see many ponytails today? Because the Manchu rulership was overthrown by the native Han and thus their control lost. Chinese history is rife with power struggles like this. China is an excellent petri dish to debunk the myths that modern progressive liberal society has created.

They however still proved their power and right up until the West harmed Qing Dynasty.

Burgundy. Provide evidence of this supposed finding.