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We are at a verge of a world war, and no one exactly know why. Seriously, why NATO countries are felling threaten by Russia?

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Why would something sensible ruin your day? There's no reason why the civilian side of society shouldn't be prepared for war and emergency situations, or for bridges to not have pre-drilled holes for rapid demolition.

I simple don't get way.
I have being reading news from different sources for the last 3 yeas (RT, Al Jazeera, BBC, SCMP) and i don't see any reason why start a arms race. Sure, there was Crimea crisis (which i totally side with Russia).

I can't understand why the hate against this country. USSR don't exist anymore.

I'm working as CNC machinist at private-owned metal workshop, and about 50% of what we do now is military related. Parts of missiles, and naval computer frames and some other details the purpose of which we're not even allowed to know. I'm legitimately sure some of the things I milled was used to bomb people in Syria. 4 years ago all we did was centrifugal clutches for fucking Lada cars. We have enough contracts to do shit for years.

>/russia/

>BWPs
>Poland's army tanks
fucking retarded journalists

This thing worries me.

Europeans are already dieing out. Why start a war to reduce even more the numbers?

I bet they have ak-47s and ar-15s in that army tank too

Once you join NATO, you need to replace all ammunition to NATO standard ammo (it's part of the deal).
I don't know if you can modify a AK47 to run on NATO bullets (not a /k/).

>((Stolenberg))
Holy fuck, they really are doing it themselves these days, I thought that was just a twitter joke from zog

>I don't know if you can modify a AK47 to run on NATO bullets (not a /k/).
Galil is basically a copy of the Finnish AK model that shoots 5.56, so there's nothing stopping it from being done in great numbers.

The US is no longer going to pay for the entire military defense of Europe in exchange for absolutely nothing.

ivan you gonna get vanned for that post. careful

They have always done it themselves.

>don't know if you can modify a AK47 to run on NATO bullets (not a /k/).
Although, of course if you mean modify an already built firearm for 5.56, that's not really going to work.

>nationalism is the cause for war
>we must abolish it
>EU means eternal peace
>???
>start a world war anyway

>no one exactly know why
US fleet and muhreens have china threat to milk budget.
Army needs a budget milking boogieman too - thus relentless expansion to the Russian boarders.
Butthurt belt is build on sucking American dick thus military exercises and bases.

Because NATO wants gibs for their budget. There is nothing strange about that, they just want to be relevant.

Something odd happened to me a couple of days ago. I normally do cardio in a abandoned road, it goes to a back exit of a airbase. It hasnt been used in 20 years and normally mobody bothers me, but a couple days ago, a military jeep came to me and said i couldnt park there because its an evacuation exit, first time in 20 years.

Tell this to russians?
Russians ended 70+ years of peace in Europe by starting wars in Georgia and Ukraine?

Within last 6 months Poland experienced 2,5 mil hacker attacks from Russia
They keep influencing internal Politics
They constantly keep violating airspace and seaspace
They are expanding/building up their military way above their real needs

we could keep listing actions for hours

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Something tells me you are either Russian or just stupid

Because Russia constantly threatens European countries.

If America want to burn money with his army, give them infrastructure to build.
I don't want to see Europe carpet bombed again.

Other countries become concerned when you routinely invade neighbors to steal land and lie about it. Other countries become concerned when you sell advanced weapons systems to other countries that openly support terrorism and state their plans to develop and use nuclear weapons. Other countries become concerned when your military publishes strategy papers which explicitly advocate the use of nuclear weapons against them, then conduct military exercises to rehearse such plans.

Russia is the provocateur. Russia is country so insecure they see neighbor's growing economic and security independence and feels threatened.

stoltenberg is not a jew though. Norway had a big influx of normal germans during the hanseatic time and then scattered throughout the centuries. just tradesmen and masters of their contemporary technology, no jewy stuff. Now, he is a zog-puppet, but that is another matter.

Poland army uses 5.56 rechamber ak made by Radom. Why would you not be able to rechamber a weapon? Why can Brazil monkey not google before post and sound like ignorant fool?

It's the war of Great Peace that aims to annex the evil Russia into the bastion of eternal glory known as the EU. Only by becoming one can the Russians ever hope to be intellectually liberated and become part of something greater.

Russia should feel threatened now that the establishment is trying to blame all their problems on said country. It started with Hillary trying to make excuses for why she lost and that sentiment has spread to Europe. The (((bankers))) are going to try to bring Russia under their control.

you forgot about jugoslavia and northern ireland shill

>Georgians attack Russian peacekeepers
>Russians respond
Literally Nazi Germany.

>I can't understand why the hate against this country. USSR don't exist anymore.
They told the globalists to suck it and then they started to buy gold so that they could eventually challange the petrodollar system.

Why would war come as a surprise? They started a war in Iraq for the exact same reason, they bombed Libya for the exact same reason and they started the war in Syria for the exact same reason.

Challenge the petrodollar and you get the bomb.

>brazil monkey thread

>immediately hides it

>>>"""(((Russians)))"""

because Russia attacking western countries with propaganda and also fucking around in the middle east against our interests.

>tfw China is challenging the petrodollar
>US can't do shit to stop it
Shame they're unlikely to go all the way, what with the economical repercussions.

Dafuq. I always thought that "civilian" was a term for non combatants in countries that are at war. You're not supposed to have a "civilian population" in peace time.

Yeah, Jihadists (ooops, sorry, Schrödinger's ''moderate opposition'') seizing power in Syria is surely in German best interests.

Civil = lice koje nije uniformisano.

>You're not supposed to have a "civilian population" in peace time.
You still have a police force during peace time, don't you?

>70+ years of peace in Europe
Sure, When Turkey invade Cyprus it was nothing because Turkey was a NATO member.
>Within last 6 months Poland experienced 2,5 mil hacker attacks from Russia
BOTs, also, the major source of "cyber attacks" comes from USA and China (i work in a network provider).
>They keep influencing internal Politics
This is true, but every super power country do this.
>They constantly keep violating airspace and seaspace
Probably is true too.
>They are expanding/building up their military way above their real needs
This is how a military race works.

>Something tells me you are either Russian or just stupid
Not Russian, i just don't want another world war.

>sell advanced weapons systems to other countries that openly support terrorism
This is why i quit American news.
Was not Russia who started the Arab spring. Those Toyota pickups that ISIS drives around where not fabricated in Russia nor exported by them.
I look up his family history. Pretty jew if you ask me.

I am talking about Iran and North Korea. Real countries, real threats. Advanced weapons. Anti aircraft missiles, radars, aircraft, ballistic missiles, and more.

This. Only the UK pulls its weight in NATO, I say cut the rest of them loose. Even Turkey is in NATO like wtf, I'm not sending our boys to die for fucking Erdogan.

I did not grow up in a gun culture. Sure anyone can reachable, but will it work just fine?
I told you guys that i was not specialist...
Why Iran can't have nuclear power? Look at their geography. It's shit to produce energy.
Also, Brazil has nuclear power and no one ever bitch about it.

>I'm not sending our boys to die for fucking Erdogan.
Uh sweetie, you do what the government tells you to.

More place for retarded subhuman niggers or do you seriously belive people of the elite will die in a new world war ?

>I'm not sending our boys to die for fucking Erdogan.
I was talking with some turks few days back on Sup Forums. In their opinion Erdoğan is actually a liberal "pacifist". This was one of the reason why the military tried to take him down last year.

>do you seriously belive people of the elite will die in a new world war ?
You don't know what hungry and mad people are capable in tough times.

>Russians ended 70+ years of peace in Europe
What is Yugoslavia
>starting wars in Georgia
Saakashvili attacked peacekeepers first, it's a fact. As for Ukraine, it was the red line and West knew it perfectly. You have to be stupid to cross it by financing a coup, and then cry >BUT MUH RUSKIES ATTACKED FIRST.

I see you all the time spouting this nonsense, shill. Also, you forgot to post that vile lying kike Friedman.

You mean (((YOUR))) interest.

Remember Polish FM at Maidan, urging the overthrow of legal government?
I member.

I did not grow up with gun. Are you insane? You are Brazil. More people murdered in a day there than a year here. You could have google.

Nuclear power is great responsibility. Iran wants nuclear power only to have nuclear weapon. Iran sponsors terrorism across Middle East. They shoot missiles at neighbors and run shadow governments backed by powerful paramilitary forces in Lebanon and Iraq. Iran proudly claims they wish to destroy America and Israel.

Iran should have nuclear weapon like chimpanzee should have machine gun.

Yes, Russians always liberate, they liberated Poland in 1939 after all. They liberated Poles from Polish elites in Katyń.

How many times does country of idk 3 mil inhabitants attack Nuclear superpower like Russia?

How many times does people with wooden spoons attack f-16 airplanes?

>Iran sponsors terrorism across Middle East.
No. That's KSA and the US.

Agree. russia is agressor here ,can confirm
> constant air space violation
> hackers, spyings, putin trolls in internet space etc.
> Stopped european product supply for no legal reason.

>Russians
Soviets. Led by a Georgian dictator.
>Katyn
Soviets. Led by a Georgian dictator.
How the fuck do you combine ''Russkies are communists'' and ''BAWWW they aren't celebrating October Revolution''?

>North Korea
>Real country
>Most laughably destitute shithole on Earth
>Advanced weapons
>T-72's
>MiG-21's
Stick to anime, bro. We've got this.

>america niggers led by nigger.

>More people murdered in a day there than a year here.
It's a cliché already, but i live in the south. My only experience with guns where with shotguns in my family farm.
I don't live in Rio where kids play with empty shells.
>Iran wants nuclear power only to have nuclear weapon
Sure they want nukes too (lets be honest. Nukes is the only reason why we did not had WWIII, WWIV and WWV so far). No one simple invade a country with capability of erase your capital from the map.

Pretty sure he is a USA army personal deployed in Japan.

>Iran sponsors terrorism across Middle East
dumbass. fuck off from japan you english teacher cuck.

Nope, America is a democracy, at least formally.
Nazis were also elected and allowed into power.
Bolsheviks in Russia seized power by violence.
I'm not saying Russians are totally innocent, far from it, but their level of guilt is far lesser for commie crimes, than the level of guilt of Germans, let alone modern Americans.
Who could totally stop or hinder the actions of their government, if they gave a fuck.
When your options are getting shot, GULAG, and you don't even know what happened, it's hard to oppose the actions of your government.
Katyn and that shit wasn't even widely known, and they claimed Germans did it right until Gorbachev.

To be honest, they actually do (like all other ME countries). They are helping right now the Yemen rebels to overthrown the Saudi puppet state.

>peacekeapers
You mean invaders whose task was to insure the russian occupation and prevent a georgian response.

Russians still hailing in large numbers that georgian and jew in red square.

You start a war to get the big cities nuked and cleansed of shitskins.

This. Russia called them peacekeepers and had no oversight from UN or OSCE. The ruse worked because nobody cared enough to step in and take over responsibility. Like retarded child left to play in sandbox. He is having fun and not hurting anything so it is no problem. Then he eats a cat turd and suddenly it is a problem.

Then he should know that NK is a meme, especially if he has served in SK and seen the ROK Army and the KATUSAs for himself as they are not a joke, they wouldn't even need our help (strictly speaking, obviously our help will mitigate their casualties) if not for Kim's nukes.

Where?
Did you see the celebration for October Revolution? It was pathetic.
Or you're referring to misinterpreted polls, where Russians say Stalin ''did some good'' (objectively true), so you take it that they love Stalin?
Even though like 2% IIRC said that they would wish they lived under his rule.
Sorry, ''Russians are still commie'' is buried.
However, Russians don't want to be guilt tripped by you and Poles into apologizing daily for the actions of communist regimes, which is perfectly reasonable.
Apologies were made, that's the best you'll get. But keep screeching.

Russia had the posibility to put down the comie insurection with the help of other countries. They prefered to let the comies take over and even genocide them. They are fully responsible for comunism.

It's because the cabal that controls these nations fucked up because they're careless satanic pedophiles. So they're pulling out all they've got to distract from their exposure. It's all coming out.

>Apologies were made
Why are you lying tavarisci?

And what about Kosovo?
Yes, this is whataboutism, but when you talk from a position of moral superiority, then whataboutism is perfectly legit.
USA and it's allies are intruding on Russian interest zone. Russians are reacting.
I don't see Russians sponsoring coups in Mexico or sending aid to anti-American paramilitaries.

If you look at our and poland history you will see that russia is always been an enemy. And we have a right to not like you , why should we?

>I did not grow up with gun. Are you insane? You are Brazil. More people murdered in a day there than a year here

Are all Japs so passive aggressive?

3 million Russians died in Civil War, you retarded fuck.
Yes, they failed, but they tried.
>help of other countries
What help? Help that was so small, only thing it did was give Bolsheviks ammo for ''foreigners are invading Russia'', but with zero material gain.
Finns refused to strike when Bolsheviks were weak, Poles were only interested about seizing Ukraine.
No one offered real help.
How many Germans died trying to stop Nazis?
Commies staged a strike in one town. That's it.
nytimes.com/2010/04/08/world/europe/08putin.html

You have a right to not like anyone, and I'm not Russian, but you just look laughable when you try to assume a position of moral superiority.
Conflict between Poles/Lithuanians and Russians started when Poles and Lithuanians moved in after waning of Mongol power, and started seizing Russian principalities.
Russians recovered and tore you another asshole. You played, you lost. No need to cry about cosmic injustice.

Russia started first the hostilities in transnistria. They weren`t reacting, they were the agressors.
It`s different when factions split inside a country to when a foreign country annexex a part of your country. Kosovo doesn`t declares itself an american state, like Transnistria, Donbas and Osetia declare themselves russian states part of greater russia. Thats 19th century teritorial annexation.

>Finns refused to strike when Bolsheviks were weak
Uh, sweetie?
No.
I know the Soviet performance in WW2 against Finns was an embarassment, but our people aren't magic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat

I agree with you. NK is a meme.
If Kin decides to use the nukes, 3 of his 5 most loyal generals would shot him right in the spot.
What do you expect from Russians? They can't resurrect the people who died, they can't repair the damage that years of isolation caused.
We too have a ghost in our wardrobe from the Paraguay war, and the best thing we could do was play cool and be a good neighbor expecting the hate to go away.

Besides, if you hate Stalin so fucking much, return land he gave you to Poles, and Poles should return land they were given in west.
They can deal with Ukrainians (who also loathe evil Russian commies) as for the return of their land in the east.
I mean, it's really time to erase all legacy of that brutal monster.

>t.30% russian
jej if you want to harm russians you should kill yourself since you're one of them

we got so many lands becous people of that lands needed protection from ruskis and mongols the lands were taken "without bullet shot" .And nowdays russia doesent seem to be friendly partner so what are you talking about if they were of course we could talk differently

Brazil is know for horrible shitposting on Sup Forums and Sup Forums. I understand his motives to criticizes me. To be honest, i don't come to Sup Forums at night, because i know that will be filled with mentally handicapped people from my country ruining any serious discussion.

WW3 when?

I just want die gloriously in battle taking back vibourg and karelia

>We are at a verge of a world war, and no one exactly know why.
Money and USA struggle to remain the only superpower. Retards actually think that they can win.

Stoltenberg isn't jewish, berg just means mountain and we have lots of nonjewish people with last names including berg somewhere within them in scandiavia

Kosovo has American base and troops. It is practically occupied. Same shit.
So no, don't try to assume moral superiority. Russians do same stuff Americans do.
But you pretend Americans are doing it for some noble goals. They aren't.
When Yudenich moved on SPb in 1919. Your civil war was over quickly.
Mannerheim pressed for joint attack, but your government refused.

>american educanshun
Its 4.8% russians
Hail to our patriotic partisans

7,62x39 already is one of the many NATO standard calibers

Ah yes, you were spreading peace and prosperity.
It's pointless to talk to you or Poles.
You are far more brainwashed than Russians, into believing your historical innocence and sainthood.

> why NATO countries are felling threaten by Russia?

they dont, NATO does

>balkan nigger telling me about my history

Most of the 3 millions died for communism and for the kike Lenin.
>Poles were only interested about seizing Ukraine
You said it yourself that the russian were more interested to keep their imperialist expansion in eastern europe than to fight together the comies.
If the white army agreed to accept the romanian and polish request the hell could have been avoided at minimal costs.
But as usually russians prefered to live in shit and be hostile to others rather than living in peace together. Thats why russia will always be a shithole, slave to their overlords.

He probably lookup the number of Lithuanians hat speak Russian.
I did not know that.

What about Kosovo and Balkans? NATO went in with authority from UN. Where was UN resolution for Ukraine or Georgia? Or in Moldova? Did US make Kosovo a state? Situations are completely different.

What is "interest zone"? Is cuba and Venezuela in US "interest zone"? Would you defend US if they invaded and created client states or ran a plebiscite with no external monitors to make them US territories? It is all absurd. Georgia and Ukraine wanted to be closer to US/EU/NATO because of great benefits of being a modern country cooperating economically with other modern country. Russia responded like an abusive ex husband.

Most are more reserved. I spend too much time here. Usually I use meme flags.

I can because I know it, unlike you.
>Most of the 3 millions died for communism and for the kike Lenin.
Why are you lying? Pic related.
Bolsheviks didn't really enjoy widespread support.
>You said it yourself that the russian were more interested to keep their imperialist expansion in eastern europe than to fight together the comies.
Ukraine is Russia.
>If the white army agreed to accept the romanian and polish request the hell could have been avoided at minimal costs.
What request?
No request came. Poles just waited until they could strike.
>But as usually russians prefered to live in shit and be hostile to others rather than living in peace together. Thats why russia will always be a shithole, slave to their overlords.
Blah blah blah. We'll see how your dick sucking of West pays out when your owners further decline socially, culturally and economically.

Nobody expects apologies from russians, we hope that russians will someday learn to not chimp out. And if they really want to, to do it outside of europe. I expect the russians to gtfo of Moldova.

No he assumed im estonia or latvia

>Your civil war was over quickly.
What do you mean over quickly? The war ended in 1918.
>Mannerheim pressed for joint attack, but your government refused.
Because of an unstable political situation, dependence on Germany and political turmoil. Less refusal and more incapability and being a German puppet state, for that short period of time.

Yeah im in the same boat, im a welder fabricator, my company use to build fire trucks but about 3 years ago we got a military contract to build armoured vehicles, not tanks but troop carriers and random components. Think its a 10 year contract, but thats not for sure

>NATO went in with authority from UN.
False. There was no SC approval for military action. According to international law, it was an aggression.
>Did US make Kosovo a state?
Yes, in 2008.
>Is cuba and Venezuela in US "interest zone"?
Yes. According to your own politicians.
See Wolfowitz doctrine for a more extensive interpretation of your ''interest zone''.
>Would you defend US if they invaded and created client states or ran a plebiscite with no external monitors to make them US territories?
You aren't doing it that way, you use more insidious ways.
>Georgia and Ukraine wanted to be closer to US/EU/NATO because of great benefits of being a modern country cooperating economically with other modern country.
Nope, their leadership, paid and directed by your government, wanted it.
Population, like here, was merely forced into some direction, or brainwashed by propaganda.