Equality Between Men & Women

Give me 1 legitimate reason why you're still not a feminist, user.

What's wrong with fighting for equality?

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Women suck at everything.

Women are worthless whores, who collectively have only value on being capable or reproduction or looking pretty.

Women are a negative asset, we would do better with advanced waifu drones.

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>neo-feminism
>having anything to do with "equality"

pick 1

women and men aren't equal. guys are better at some shit, girls at other. we're not equal nor should we be.

this

>neo-feminism
what the hell?

Equality is a lie. Men and women are not the same. What you see now is the west trying to treat women the same as men, and what you're seeing is that when you do that women continuously vote in favor of larger govt in order to forcefully take the earnings and property of the hard working men in order to fuck whomever they please, abort their bastard children, and live relatively without consequences whilst men are forced to labor more and more for less and less. Pic related.

Sup Forums is a feminist board of peace. Most of us believe in equality.

The problem is the politization of everything, the retarded idea that women and men are not different and the demonization of the housewife.

Misoginists herebin the true sense of the word are just virgins.

Feminism has legal equality, once you have that it isn't up to you what you do with it. There are still sexists out there but creating a legal mechanism to benefit them is just state sanctioned gender discrimination and creating a protected class of all women.

Women have legal equality, trying to legally enforce social change is thought crime. The US government is not designed or intended to enforce beliefs onto its people. It was mean to protect their right to believe what they wanted.

>What's wrong with fighting for equality?

Nothing. That's why I'm not part of that cringy zeitgeist.

Are you equal to a women? I know I am not.
Equality is not a real concept, it's the biggest myth of our time.

Unequal things should not be treated equally. There's no point, you're just playing pretend.

Say it with me fag: Egalitarian.

>Egalitarian
What's the difference?

Equality is a lie a mthy to appease the masses. Simply look around you and you'll see the world for what it is.

women are children and not equal to men, in any capacity
women don't want equality, they want men to become the lower class of human
every stage of feminism has wreaked havoc on civilized societies
women have always been a protected class, feminism removes those protections and forces women to live as men
this drops the birthrate down (as women seek a man's life of work, instead of a woman's life as mother), currently it is below replacement rate in all first world countries, which means civilization is a few generations from no longer existing....thanks to feminism
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feminism is not equality. women are the ones that have the upper ground. but i give this post 80% of bait

No bait whatsoever, good sir.
I just haven't seen any reasonable arguments yet.

>Men and women aren't equal by nature
Yeah, good luck shoving that red pill down a normie's throat.

because no matter how hard you deny it, people aren't equal.

Only a man has the stamina to satisfy another man.

I know this is a radical idea, but men and women are different.

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Dude.
I'm not a shill.
I merely ask for a convincing argument.

So far, I haven't seen any solid reason why you shouldn't be a feminist.

I'D LIKE TO BE RED PILLED HERE FFS.

Woman is treacherous and filthy creature.
Not to mention that nothing in the nature is equal.

>last line from the screencap
it always baffles me how people can disregard wisdom that was refined throughout centuries of human history via trial and error.
those laws weren't put in place because they didn't want people to have fun but because they tried something, figured out it had severe consequences and then tried to prevent it.
some of those rules are outdated, but all the ones that are based on human behavior are still very much accurate because basic human behavior changed very little.

yet retards keep disregarding everything that's older than them because
>haha, it's CURRENT YEAR

>Yeah, good luck shoving that red pill down a normie's throat.

>normalfags are retarded so I have to be retarded, too
Normalfags also gamble their money away to the point where they have to live paycheck to paycheck and get married to sluts. Why the fuck should I strive to emulate someone who is simply denying reality?

>Yeah, good luck shoving that red pill down a normie's throat.

So you're saying that if something poses a certain difficulty of introduction to the society then it shouldn't be pursued? That's retarded, Leafman.

Remember, equality was once a completely alien concept as well but it got accepted over time. You just have to educate and indoctrinate over multiple decades.

>I'D LIKE TO BE RED PILLED HERE FFS.
no, not really. you implicitly already said that you'll accept that men and women are simply not equal by nature, but then went on to say that the argument is not valid because you cannot use it to sway your mentally challenged normalfag friends.

what you want isn't the truth, you want some stupid (((semantics))) shit that you can feed to the mentally handicapped.

read this

well.. biology

I believe it is called third wave feminism. It is defined as the first two gave you complete equality but feminism baiting is very profitable so you make stuff up to keep the subsidies and donations flowing in.

I don’t care.

Why am I as a man supposed to support equality between the genders? Personally I like it back like the old days. I’d have no problem keeping my wife at home and supporting and leading her as long as I’m legally the head of the family, control her property, etc.

Feminism was complete cancer; all of it.

Women suck at math and science bc of their genetics.
And math and science build the mri machine that detects your kids cancer, and having a kid thats not dead is more fun than having a nice book to read or artwork to look at while youre mourning your dead kid.
Science bitches. Science.

-Good at math science-

-have vagina-

Pick one cunts

Dont you like how these stupid faggots always say "inb4: like its winning something kys stupid fucking leaf sage

You can't make two unequal things equal

>third wave feminism
Now we're talking.

How does this manifest itself in the modern world?

blue collar jobs men excel at

white collar jobs women are okay at

Because feminism was never about equality, it was always about giving women special privileges. How many feminists are fighting against the courts being biased against men?

And I'm out.
Ban Canadians.

>fighting for equality
Nothing wrong with equality
>fighting
If you can't do it peacefully you shouldn't do it.
>feminist
has nothing to do with equality. equality is egalitarianism's goal.

>Now we're talking.
no, you are just making cheap excuses and intentionally ignoring the actual problem to make ti more palatable to normalfags. all of feminism was fucking cancer, from the very first moment. not just the current peak retardation it spawned.

Couldnt agree more
Shame he think meds are nigs

A FUCKING LEAF
Pic related is why I'll never be a feminist, gtfo with your dumb b8, nigger.

Because sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive

fuck off leaf

Top kek. This.

Feminism=/= equality. They are more concerned about crushing "patriarchy" than complete equality. The also refuse to take the equal responsibilities that come with equal rights. For example they want the right to vote but they want to be excused from conscription calls. It also ignores choices women make on their own as causing any effect on their outcomes. For example feminists whine about the lack of women in tech programs, but ignore that most women willingly sign up for humanities programs instead. When feminists actually start giving a flying fuck about real equality I will join. However they won't do that nor do they want to.

Because I'm not a dumb hypocrite?

Shut the fuck up, nigger.
There was never any equality to be had, they're using our women to destroy our civilization, ffs.

>Because feminism was never about equality, it was always about giving women special privileges. How many feminists are fighting against the courts being biased against men?

>nothing to do with equality. equality is egalitarianism's goal.

Good pic.

I hear ya.

Because they are not for equality, they themselves claim that they fight the systems of oppression. Those systems of oppression are schools, armed forces, law enforcement, court system, constitution, science departments, whole free market system, even the notion of gender, race, nation and nuclear family because they are the systems that are perpetuating white, capitalist, colonialist patriarchy.
Summed up, they openly claim that they are against the western liberal democracies and they want to dismantle everything. That is why they will never criticize any other culture, nation or religion, no matter how gruesome are their practices.
The feminism is exclusively anti-west ideology and that is why I am not feminist.

Good kill. Good kill.
Got more ammo?

Also, to what extend is "The Patriarchy" a conspiracy theory?

Because Feminism is about the enforcement of state sanctioned misandry disguised as gender equality.

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Equal rights means equal responsibilities.
Women had the choice to help their husband in his work in any way that'd help, or to look after the kids, or to sell off the chicken eggs to a local retailer for example.
Today women have no choice but to go to university, get a degree, get a job and then maybe find a husband when they're 30.

Equality has destroyed wages.
Double the labour supply, no equivalent increase in labour demand.
Backwards though it sounds, if women were banned from employment they'd be more free.

How can I read this? *Insert y'all got any more pixels meme*

Cool claim.
Got proof?

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>if women were banned from employment they'd be more free.

Interesting.

FUCK BITCHES, I PREFER TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON ROBOTICS.

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Men and women are not equal. Never were, never will be.

>they're more free as wageslaves than they would be as homemakers

I basically understand this.

But would that fact be a legit reason to deny people equal rights?

>Women are equal to men
Man:
>Higher shoulder-to-waist size ratio
>Penis and testes
>Higher testosterone production
>Higher physical strength
Woman:
>Lower shoulder-to-waist size ratio
>Uterus and ovaries
>Lower testosterone production
>Lower physical strength

No.

Woman are a protected class in society, and they have always been a protected class. Feminism is the attempt to give women more privilege and government gibs-me-dat than they already have, dismantling the role men traditionally had in society of that as a provider and protector.

Are you an idiot or what?
Refer to the toothpaste post here You can't have the same rights and responsabilities because we're different in every way and any attempt to "equalize" us is going to cause more harm, dumbass.

Check this shit:
Part 1:
You don't know why pacifists wear white poppies rather than red during periods of remembrance?
The suffragettes went round pinning white roses on fighting aged men at home during the war, to mark them as cowards.
The suffragettes were an establishment psy-op to get women the vote but, more importantly, to get them into the workforce. There was nothing noble about them.
They were the violent angry progressives of their day, who had no qualms with supporting war or shaming those who didn't support it. Sound familiar?
The right and the left aren't enemies. That whole paradigm is bullshit d&c. It's the middle-class liberals i.e. progressives who set you against one another while they masquerade as the sensible
peacemakers trying to hold everything together i.e. maintain *their* status quo.

Look at the far left in Britain (SWP etc.). They're virulently anti-EU.
And the far right? Virulently anti-EU...

Part 2:
The confusion arises on the margins of the fake centre i.e. centre-left, centre-right, centrist, etc. These are all nonsense terms. These people are the 'progressives' who'll offer each
side crumbs without ever delivering. No matter who gets in, the trajectory remains the same.
>how can you say they protect the status quo when you call them 'progressives' and they enforce radical change on society?
I said "their" status quo. Their position is maintained, while everyone else is forced into a position of constant adaptation to a changing environment - in other words, fight-or-flight.
The plebs are too distracted by the challenges posed to even pay attention, let alone fight back.
An obvious example is immigration. The plebs deal with it. The 'progressives' don't. There are no immigrants where they live. They feel none of the impact.
Take austerity. "We're all in it together". Their salaries have increased year-on-year above inflation.

Part 3:
Keep going through the list...for them, life goes on just as it did before.
The white feathers campaign incited angry mobs to attack young men for not serving. Ironically they often just ended up attacking guys who had already signed up and hand shipped to basic training yet,
or guys home from the front who were just trying to enjoy some downtime.
In one case they actually mobbed a guy who was going to pick up his uniform from the taylors....... so he could be awarded a high level medal by the prime minister in a few hours.
The white feather campaign was so typically female. Done under the name of patriotism and war effort support It destroyed troops morale as they couldnt even get some soreley needed R and R without
being harassed by mobs of shrieking harpies and it caused large and measurable decreases in the work productivity of young men engaged in war critical industrial professions.
Feathers... that's right. Thanks for that.
Those unproductive young men could be replaced by women. When the war ended, the world had changed forever...
Now two-income families struggle to make ends meet, when one income used to be enough. Yet productivity is increased massively since then. If anything, a single income should be greater,
reflecting that higher productivity.
Double the productivity for half the investment. The nuclear family is dead, but those conducting the progressives never lived in nuclear families anyway

Back in the day fighting for equality was called being an egalitarian. Feminism is a shitty name for it and doesn't help the brand.

Because I don't like women.

Interesting.

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Right.
Any interesting sources on that transition/take-over?

Tfw you are a redpilled Canadian and cannot stand how pathetic your country has become.
>> feels bad man.

you equate being a feminist to fighting for equality. this basic premise is wrong. while i acknowledge that a portion of females within the feminist movement do their best to insure the rights of a modern woman, a large portion of females within the feminist movement wish to subjugate men. irritatingly, both of these groups of women operate under the umbrella of having the same name. one cannot attack one portion of this group without attacking the other.

>Give me 1 legitimate reason why you're still not a feminist, user.
I am surrounded by strong women. my aunt used to work repossession in Compton. She currently tends to horses on a ranch while earning a degree. this is hard work. My mother currently owns her own business in a male dominated industry and has earned a grudging respect. Since i am male, and it is impossible for me to develop an unbiased perspective of feminism, i rely on the perspectives of the powerful females in my life. they think feminism is garbage.

additionally feminists currently only have goals based on misconceptions.

>What's wrong with fighting for equality?
equality is a social construct. as a goal it is vague, impossible to quantify, and impossible to solve without taking responsibility for the inequities of life. This is why we have established equal rights and promote individual responsibility to self; in this at least, we can be equal.

They can't take your struggle, your pain, your fury, it's yours, make them regret this.

Triggered

lol because smart/wife-able women aren't literal retards that think they're equal to men. if my gf told me we're equal, I'd say "yea, when you can pick me up and thunder fuck me against the wall, I'll say we're equal. Till then I'll stick to the manual labor while you stick to having a god damn beautiful smile." to which she would probably grab my dick and suck it for being a true alpha.

Here's my reason

one day, burgerbro, one day

i really dislike the meme that first and second wave feminism were a-ok.

Equality doesn't exist in the family court for men. Why should I brcome a femenist faggot?

>What's wrong with fighting for equality?
nothing, but third wave feminism is NOT fighting for equality.

Are you a feminist or an equalist? You can’t be both.

Solid answer.

Equality is a lie

That one is wrong
The right one has sources

Proceed...

Sources on what it's actually fighting for?

What's an equalist?
Is it different from an egalitarian?

>claim
The unequal treatment of men during divorce proceedings on the baseless assumption that women cannot work like men in rebuilding their lives and careers and as such deserve a larger portion of the family property and an automatic assumption of custodianship of children to mothers.

The inability of the male partner of a pregnant woman to determine whether the pregnancy should be terminated and even if it is terminated against the wishes of the male the male is then legally required to support the woman.

The myth of the gender pay gap that is a deliberate deception of factors such as work hours, work life balance, and leave entitlements.

The lenient sentencing of female child molestors and in general other criminal acts.The double standards of feminist groups in fostering a culture that automatically assumes men are pedophiles.

The enduring silence of feminist groups against women perpetrating domestic violence.

The double dealing of feminist groups in promoting violence against men as strong independence whilst at the same time decrying violence against women as oppression and Patriarchy.

The thing women don't understand about equality is that with equal rights comes equal treatment. Women always want the same as men, but don't want to do the same as men. They want the male happiness, but cannot handle the male suffering.

TL;DR- Equal rights=Equal treatment=equal pain

Man and women are different, so they shall be treated in a different way. Men are expected to go to war, while women are not.
Men are expected to work, women not so much and the husbands of those that work will not be held in such an high regard as otherwise, because they can't sustain their families.
Men are supposed to defend their families and are deemed weak if they can't.
Inequality is a revolt against nature. Men and Women are biological and psychologically different.

Legal equality is already enforcement of social change though.

And it's killing us slowly as a civilization

Third Reich Feminazism is cancer just like NatCucks.

*Inequality is natural and Egalitarianism is a revolt against nature

I've been on the receiving end of domestic violence as a man at the hands of my fiance. There is a stigma to it, and most people don't seem to believe it or simply put as "man up and don't let her hit you." But what most don't understand is, merely defending against it will get you threats from the abusive bitch that she'll throw you in jail if you fight back or just defend yourself without swinging at her.

I suffered that shit for 8 months. Longest 8 months of my life. But when I finally did leave, she threatened to kill herself and blah blah. At that point I no longer cared, and told her if she was going to off herself, then to just go on and do it, because I wasn't coming back.

Some women are truly vicious creatures. I'm glad to be done with her and all her psychotic behavior.

Actually Women have more rights than men and abuse that usually in child custody cases , VAWA, Affirmative action and the workplace. Until women offer men equality in child custody, they deserve none in the workplace.

I experienced the same shit from my mother when I was a kid, then from my step mother, later from my ex gf. We are truly living amidst madness.