Just a reminder that your ""right"" to privacy is communist/leftist/schizo propaganda. It's all based on emotional fallacies. Think about it, you have a right to privacy because you FEEL uncomfortable with people knowing things about you in which you want to be kept hidden. You don't like the FEELING of being spied on, you don't WANT the government/public to have this info on you.
Your internet history should be made public, and their should be cameras in your house in every room. I'm not saying there should be a shadow government, have a system so any person can watch any other person when and where they want. This is basically how our forefathers lived, they all knew every little detail about eachother. Only freaks and criminals with something to hide are against this. Personally I wish everyone could read eachothers minds but that's not possible.
>pic related is probably why you fear this idea, and it was written by a ""democratic"" socialist
>yeah goy privacy is COMMUNIST! >you don't like commies do you? >so let the state know everything you do in your personal life Hello wannabe Stalin
Ryan Gomez
t. Erich Mielke
Parker Foster
I specifically stated how it's different from that. It's not like the government knows everything and no one else does. Everyone will know everything about everyone. If the state started jailing people for that the community would step in since the know exactly why it's happening.
Hunter Hughes
>Erich Mielke I specifically stated how it's different.
Colton Johnson
people who think they have nothing to hide are the kind of people that dont be in charge of hiding things.
Owen Barnes
how many layers of irony are you on? to me it looks about 8
Eli Powell
youre off your chops mate
you should be forced to put up cameras all round your house and body and live stream for the rest of your life for saying something so spastic
Daniel Taylor
I'm being fully unironic
I literally have nothing to hide because I'm not a pervert, sexual deviant, criminal, or any other type of freak. In the military you live a lifestyle EXACTLY like how I'm proposing.
>everyone lives together, showers together, etc >not a single moment you are alone privately >everyone knows everything about each other
I'd be 100% fine with that.
Jordan Carter
Alright then Follow your own ideals & post your selfie, address, social security #,email,passwords, bank account, personal information,fetishs,first & last name,family member Info,etc Like you say " everyone will everything about everyone " because fuck privacy, right?
Jayden Roberts
Damn, you government faggots are really stepping up your propaganda efforts here. Shame your still fucking retarded.
Carter Garcia
OP has spent no time with other people and wants to talk to other people
Jason Carter
Take off that meme flag you fucking faggot
Xavier Ortiz
>Just a reminder that your ""right"" to privacy is communist/leftist/schizo propaganda. Obviously not, and I fully agree and acknowledge that in communist society, everyone will have access to every detail of everyone else's life, history and character.
Yes my dude, having private property of anything (and as you pointed, information) is communist propaganda.
We should all share everything even our toughts to make a better society free of degeneracy
Brandon Scott
First off I have no fetishes. And second there's a difference between my ideology and what you're saying. People could still have private bank numbers, they just couldn't have any secret habits or anything. It's not like im embarassed of my pin number, i just don't want anyone stealing my money. Also I would allow anyone to know where I live proving I knew where they live, this is a matter about safety not privacy
I respect your ideal then
I'm fine with capitalism, just privacy im against.
Christian Reyes
Man his TV is bigger than mine.
Andrew Hill
oh look /leftypol/ is falseflagging and pretending to be retarded again
Michael Rodriguez
You are so offbase there.. are u retarded or on crazy people drugs???
Thomas Diaz
>I'd be 100% fine with that
Okay senpai, we are waiting. Webcams are cheap as hell nowadays, don't make this thread again until you have a live stream to go with it, deal?
Noah Cruz
The founding fathers wanted piracy to protect themselves from government. I'm saying everyone knows everything so the government can't unfairly treat people.
Easton Cook
That's a strawman. It's obviously different in our world where doing so would put me in danger.
Jace Harris
Yeah,That's what I fucking though Just cuz you think you are a living saint & "have nothing to hide" doesn't mean society should hand away there privacy for some delusions of a safer society
I'm done taking your bait, since you won't even argue my points "He who trades freedom for safety deserves none"
Noah Torres
IGNORE ALL SHILL THREADS >in all fields
Anthony Sullivan
What is the general idea behind the Communist society?
It is the return to the natural state of humans without reverting of the technological progress. There is a reason why the Neolithic society is called "primitive communism" by the classics of Marxism.
And it's not just my idea. What is, for example, the social credit score system developed by China? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System It is an attempt to create a system that would allow any citizen to get the track record of anyone he encounters.
Aaron Johnson
Funny, you come on this thread, whine about my idea, but offer no arguments. I've decided you are a troll, not worthy of my time.
Isaiah Lewis
So you complain about a strawman when you have one yourself >Only freaks and criminals with something to hide are against this.
Grayson Parker
I take back what I said, communism in this sense is good. But isn't China now capitalist?
yeah and im 100% for it.
Mason Nguyen
>yeah and im 100% for it. in what world did this make sense
Tyler Howard
>1984 >literally a far left dominated world >leftist/commie propaganda
Alexander Phillips
fpbp OP ETERNALLY BTFO >being the OP of this bread >not sudoku
Blake Harris
This world idiot. I'm 100% for my idea since im not a freak/criminal. How is this hard to understand
You're a fucking retard, the book is to demonize the right-wing by showing what a far-right world would look like, it's plot origionally was if the Nazis won the war.
Nathan Martinez
>That's a strawman >it's literally what you said
Wow, I hoped you would follow through with it a little more, no fun. You aren't a very convincing false flag.
Kayden Gray
You're trolling.
Adam Richardson
im pointing out the fact youre complaining about a strawman when you have one yourself by instantly devaluing any argument against having cameras up your arse as the opinion of a criminal or schizo maybe you should practice reading comprehension before you reply retard
Justin Perez
>ingsoc >english socialism
have you fucking picked up the book?
Anthony Bailey
>far right >FAR RIGHT >Eurasia. Estasia and Oceania are all based on the soviet union
Jace Powell
That's not mutually contradictive. Communism has two meanings: an ideal society as described by Marx; and a political system, as established by Lenin. China's political system is Communism, but its' societal and economic system is capitalism. (And they never themselves considered it to be anything else but capitalism, even at Mao's times)
David Ross
>Far-right world
How exactly is it far right? What is your understanding of what far-right means? Because this doesn't meet my definition of far-right, not at all. Convince me.
Henry Davis
>thats a strawman Holy fuck youre retarded
Jordan Wood
>like the military sounds fucking gay man.
Nicholas Williams
You're wrong. Our ancestors had a tight-knitted community, they didn't know what everyone else was doing 24/7 behind closed doors.
Dylan Brooks
>English socialism
Directly taken from
>National Socialism
I've read the book twice retard.
Parker Price
They are all based on Nazi Germany except East-Asia which is based on imperial Japan. You are a literal RETARD
Jacob Hernandez
I don't understand that. I thought that for it to be communism it has to be ECONOMICALLY communist. If the state/workers don't own the means of production its not communist
>supportive of heirarchies >fascist ideology (O'Brians speech literally taken out of Fascist Philosophical quotes of "life is a constant struggle for greatness and triumph" >militarism and authoritarianism >large groups demonized as subhuman
this is the FAR right im tlaking of
Nicholas Barnes
There are couple of small things in 1984 based off Soviet Union: the story between Stalin and Trotsky to the Emmanuel Goldstein and Big Brother. Literally everything else, down to the smallest details and including Ministry of Truth, room 101, thoughtcrime and newspeak is based off his personal experience, and work at the BBC.
Alexander Nguyen
well, i remember that they were forbiden sex, so you psycos have your sexual purity right there Also, the inner party, almost eugenics Male male, female female etc...
Jaxson Lee
You're such a faggot-ish retard that you can't even fucking distinguish from an irish flag and an italian flag. 1984's nations are based on the soviet union, period.
Grayson Thomas
In tight knitted community it's quite easy to tell what everyone else is doing. Especially when everyone slept in one giant room.
And Nazi Germany. He wrote "Thought-Crime" into the book because he was told by someone that the Nazis were using that word.
Robert Carter
This dude has multiple threads up right now that all revolve around "is x communist?" and all with the same meme flag. These are slide threads, ignore and sage.
Caleb Morris
Came back to see how anons are ripping you ass argument to pieces, not disappointed Mind giving me you first & last name? You don't like privacy & you have nothing to hide so what do you have to lose,commie?
Thomas Gutierrez
>You don't like the FEELING of being spied on, you don't WANT the government/public to have this info on you.
What if that was my sexual fetish?
Charles Fisher
>psychos That's the one thing I admired about the Party. Sex is degenerate and should be only permitted for procreation
I'm actually colorblind IRL
Brayden Ortiz
Gimme yer nudes soz i can protect yuz
Logan Miller
Then you're a degenerate and deserve to be humilated
I already easily demolished you in an argument, get the fuck off this thread
Ryan Cook
Sex wasn't considered 'degenerate' by the nazi party, as long as you didn't do perverted shit you were okay. Reproductive sex was encouraged both in the soviet union and nazi germany.
Sebastian King
Here's me with my gf
>demolished you >if you don't agree with me you are a criminal or a psycho or a commie Make me faggot
James Jackson
>I need the government to spy on me so I can stop masturbating to trap porn
wew lad.
Matthew Gonzalez
fpbp
Carter Baker
>Personally I wish everyone could read eachothers minds but that's not possible. As someone with intrusive thoughts FUCK THAT
Hudson Flores
Reproductive sex was also encouraged by INGSOC. However they condemmed casual sex. And i 100% agree with that. I think people who have sex for pleasure are degenerates and that's one reason I think cameras should be in every home. People would be too humilated to have casual sex if others could see it. No one would have sex with their girlfriend/wife if they knew their parents could be watching
i don't masturbate.
Austin Hughes
What do you mean intrusive thoughts? Explain. Because it's probably not big of a deal.
Levi Rivera
if you really believe that what's your full name and address?
Michael White
The fuck, are you sperging out your spying fetish?
Brody Fisher
He didn't even bother to change his name from this other post. many such cases... sad!
Ryder Flores
>I'm saying everyone knows everything so the government can't unfairly treat people. We are in a period of time with the most (((transparency))) thanks to the (((media))) but the government still manages to buttfuck people. Explain that one, kike.
Colton Gonzalez
It "buttfucks" people a LOT less than in the past.
Isaac Cruz
>written after Orwell, whose fought for the socialists in Spain, found out of Trotsky murder and subsequent eraser of his past from soviet archives, including news and photos >Goldstein history is the same as Trotsky >IngSoc stands to english socialism >80% of the book is not about the loss of privacy but about the rewriting history, something soviets were doing by the time Orwell wrote his book >all of the craziness were actually real things happening in the Soviet Union at the time >set in a far-left state which is in conflict with other far-left states >everyone called each other comrades and all means of production are controlled by the state
I get that antifa are low on numbers and with their campaign against pol, they can't spare to send their brightest to bait, but this is kindergarden tier bait, not even low effort, just plain retarded.
Unless...... you are actually baiting anons into believing you are a shill trying to bait anons with retardation, and therefore promote the idea that shills are this dumb. Even then it is still low effort.
Bentley Ortiz
You do realize INGSOC stands for English socialism right? Straight off of NATSOC for National socialism? You do realize they call themselves comrade right? Exactly what Hitler called his friends?
Of course you do though, you know exactly what im saying is true and you're just trolling
Logan Scott
You're also a TERRIBLE troll. I know you're pretending to be like sub-60 IQ but it's shit, we all see through you.
Joseph Gray
You should maybe look into what leftism is because that's what you are, total government control and the obliteration of the individual is the end goal of leftism.
Everybody sage and hide this garbage.
Kevin Jackson
>Think about it, you have a right to privacy because you FEEL uncomfortable with people knowing things about you in which you want to be kept hidden Like skid marks in the undies? I usually hose them down in the shower good before I take them to the laundromat, but you definitely don't want to use the same washer I did.
Now when it comes to Don Jr ditching his Secret Service detail for a clandestine meeting with the Russians out in the woods, that's some shady shit that puts the whole country at risk.
Justin Cooper
>gaslighting: the thread
Kayden Martin
This is one of the most retarded attempts at logic I've ever read, and it's not the first time you've posted this moronic bullshit.
Since meaning and culture are created you could say this about any right.
The worst kind of fucking dopes are the ones who think they are smart.
Brody Gray
>advocates the surveillance state >OP pic is from the 1984 movie Whether you're being honest or just shitposting, you're not selling your brand very well by literally posting the most repressive tyrannical form of a surveillance state in all of fiction. That's advertising 101 you dingus