How long did it take you to realize the television, media, etc...

How long did it take you to realize the television, media, etc. tells you what to think and how to behave using subtle social cues?

I thought this was just shitty acting instead of these things having seeds in them designed to make people think in a certain way, but I was pretty wrong. I didn't realize until hearing about Jews (I knew there were "elites" beyond what people called elites but never could prove it, didn't know where to begin looking) and such after beginning to browse Sup Forums around a year ago. It all makes sense.

The cues
Pleasure in the brain
Colors
Voice pitch variation
Camera angles and movement,
and so on so forth; basically, things designed to stimulate the brain (I am eastern European by ancestry adopted into an American family) in ways that people here don't even realize they're being influenced.

Ignore the drug degeneracy meme for the sake of this question, but I had recently done LSD with a friend, someone who browses here frequently and we frequently shit talk jews, niggers, etc. all the time. When he was tripping we had come to a misunderstanding in vibes we were leaving off and his reaction, despite being redpilled and hating jews, reacted exactly like he would have in an American drama film. Is it just because that's how he would react genuinely or is it the influence telling him he ought to act in such a manor for whatever reason (I just be myself, ignoring all cultural norms and such)? It really surprised me to know that he acted exactly like it came out of a shitty CBS drama show despite all the other things I know about him. Is it him being of American descent causing this or the influence from the media?

Do yall see these influences in everything? It's everywhere once I saw it. I never knew how prevalent it was, thought it was fringe, etc. (I stopped watching television back in 2011) and went fully online and just did what makes sense. I never got my dose of Jewish influence or social media as I knew it was degenerate early on...

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Good OP, there was a good post a while ago talking about how (((late night comedy))) is just programming for the masses

Used to buy into the meme for actual comedic insight to it instead of just joking and being a relentless fucking nigger about everything

>perception builds reality
>you are the (((System)))
take two

I've always Empathised More & tried to Act like The Villains, especially suave ones like this Motherfucker:
Guess I Know Why now.

What do you mean that I am the (((System)))?

Modern tv commercials depict the “perfect” family as being black like the Huxtables. White men are always depicted as the stupid dolt husbands who can’t find their brain from their ass.

It wasn't too long ago it still made sense to associate unity between blacks and whites as communities of intelligent, civilized people. All we got from that was Detroit, Chicongo, Atlanta, and Baltimore. I feel as if they're attempting to change the perception of reality itself by changing the definitions of everything

I don't know maybe like 4 or 5. Sesame Street and other such things really rubbed me the wrong way in how thick they laid it all on.

Took me till I was 25 to realize the full extent of it and how subtle and expansive it was. By 17 I was already anti-establishment, but I had zero comprehension about the power structure/matrix of control.

I used to run a pirate radio station back from 2012-2015 and learning a lot of the tactics the radio used opened me up a bit. On top of that, one of the producers for a major radio station began using my music selection and such playing them as "specials".

I ended up playing youtube.com/watch?v=cPmfVcwoM2A on full transmission power on his radio station's frequency for 24 hours before switching to foreign music so normies won't listen to it

>(I stopped watching television back in 2011) and went fully online and just did what makes sense.
that's what happened
you deprogrammed the virtual reality archontic kikery
you tuned into Sophia

My girlfriend is constantly trying to plug into their bullshit propaganda. Started with regular TV shows, moved on toward the late night opinion/comedy shows... then it got weird. Now she's trying to convince me that SNL is actually funny, and gets so disappointed when I don't know all the ad jingles and sales pitches they pipe into her Facebook feed.

Sorry for not wanting to pay people to tell me what to think, I guess?

People who watch a lot of dramas on TV or in movies do tend to become theatrical in their responses and gestures and turns of speech. I can't even watch the shit anymore, it's such crap and the mannerisms of the actors are so idiotic.

what are you doing with that biorobot
a sexdoll would give you a more meaningful union experience

Ever since 9/11.

when I was about 9 and asked why does the news only show bad things

I hate talking to people at call desks and having to spell out my name and recite codes and numbers. But doing it with a good helping of radio ad voice makes it tolerable.

The biorobot earns money and produces children.
A sexdoll costs money and does not pass on my genes.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

I was going on xbox gaming forums and complaining that the media was the real problem with politics since I was 13, that almost a decade ago

For me it was the show Modern Family.

Was watching it with my parents and something just snapped in my head. I just realize it was degenerate as fuck and probably on purpose. Like it was blatant propaganda. The sudden realization and understanding of this fact made me feel sick, like I'd been cheated and manipulated all along.

I knew it was all lies when I read 1984 at age 14/15 (17 years ago).

I realized in my late 20s. It really fucked me up as a teen. I thought movies and TV and magazines portrayed real life - especially movies.

Is that a real thing that people do? You must be either retarded or a woman.

The real problem is the trap you tend to fall into when you realize the official narrative is a lie. You think you're a rebel smoking weed and throwing rocks at cops but you're just taking the bait and falling into line...

Realized it when I was in junior high (2004-2005 or so) and confirmed it during the WGA strike in 2007.

THEY LIVE , anons can see it ! You have a DUTY to spread the word. Do not get bogged down , just try to Red Pill people , some will wake up , some wont , keep moving and calling out bullshit. Read the non-fiction by HUXLEY.

When I took biology class in 9th grade in like 1992

My mom said it was back in 2008 when Obama got elected that media turned incredibly fake and liberal. Can anyone confirm?

I was raised very poorly and isolated, had to figure out social skills on my own, was hard with my parents and (((media))) . I'm a guy and not retarded.

Yeah I'd agree with this. Suddenly pointless things like tranny rights, illegals and gun control became everyday issues. Previous to that time no one really gave a fuck. Also fb was coming into its own which unfortunately just pushed things along. Suddenly people started putting their useless opinions out there and thinking they were relevant and important little cupcakes.

I always knew they did that. I didn't think it was anything other than making it optimal for entertainment until the past few years.

Crazy but amazing to think such a small, meaningless decision to save money on cable bills would eventually lead to me taking the redpill

I guess that's the most obvious one there is, for some reason I hadn't thought of that besides "things changed"

Fear sells and generates money for the economy. As long as they can keep people manipulated to a great degree then they can keep the sham running since that sham is the only think establishing many people's supposed positions of "legitimacy"

What's crazy is i didn't expect my friend to act in such a way, he's a good guy. Perhaps it was just the drug experience and had a more dramatic response than normal? When the situation happened, I fully kept a calm head (and so did he for the most part) but he did eventually say abruptly that he needed to take a shower and retreated to his room for about 45 minutes leaving me bewildered...

Those fucking degenerate jews trying to show two gay white men adopting children (oh of course she's a Chinese female what a sob story!) as normal although they don't realize what a great amount of actually mentally diluted men are actually doing in the privacy of their own home with children around.

Sorry to hear that, hopefully everything has worked itself out.
Better late than never, we all have our own stories and start somewhere

Once you instantly rebel against everything because of subconscious rage at (((them))) it gives (((them))) more reason to cry the victim card. I admit openly to smoking weed daily on here all the time. As long as I remain true to myself and remain otherwise a sane person and not as a negative stereotype (niggers) and people see the actual benefits it provides me mentally, I see no problem with doing it

If you can give me a link to the book (preferably audiobooks help me most) I'll strongly consider it!

Similar situation here just w internet

when i was 16 in 2010 started smoking weed then at 18 i had an out of body experience on ketamine. which really rocked my world don't worry im not degenerate anymore i just knew something was wrong and i had to break free but that led me down the rabbit hole

Hollywood was doing it long before that, but people's eyes weren't really opened en masse until the internet became commonplace.

What the fuck is a comma, and how does it work?

By media I meant news media

I thought you meant Ms. Cleo.

Have you dated before? In highschool I had to deal with all these bullshit expectations about what dating/love is like that people around me got from movies.
As people got older, dating became more of just a "go do stuff that we both genuinely think might be fun" instead of the girl getting all fussy about trying to stick to a script they got from the media.
Even after all that, my gf still had these weird expectations about what marriage was like, and would excitedly poke me if any movie/show had a marriage scene. I kept telling her "you know this is just a movie, right? Real people don't have weddings like that unless they have $50,000 lying around to burn, and we don't even own both our cars yet. My parents have a big backyard and the public park has bathrooms and grills for like $1000 if you want to do either of those though."
Actually going out and looking at quotes for venues and food, not even getting to dresses and other bullshit sobered her up on the "formal wedding with processional and recessional and practice dinner and etc etc" real fucking quick.

Also, I've been told I'm basically borderline autistic for pretty much my entire life and ended up on Sup Forums... so I have pretty fucked up social skills too. I'm probably thinking of an entirely different set of bullshit that people get from movies/tv/magazines than you were.

If all of that shit I said about women/dating/marriage sounds completely unfamiliar... you have something fun to look forward to.

Punctuation was never my strong suit

>reacted exactly like he would have in an American drama film.

It always disturbs me when I see this in kids. They repeat lines and basically their first "social interaction memes" are anti-family memes. Even if you cut off television, other kids are learning the same cliches, scripts, and modes of interaction, and your kid will learn everything from them.

I really sound a lot like some whackjob social scientist talking about "harmful cultural norms", but all I'm saying is that there are a lot of bad influences out there, and it's hard to raise a non-degenerate kid.

This video is exactly what I'm talking about.
>youtube.com/watch?v=-GC5rAX0xHg

youtu.be/JHuSENuXU4g

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fuckin brits, kek

wtf is this id

>UCo0cKed
I dunno man you tell me.

That's creepy af.
The "this is a banana" commercial really did it for me- I've never watched much TV and always been interested in subliminal messages, but that commercial was so fucking obvious.

were living in a massive postmodernist social experiment designed to slowly but surely reprogram humans into a more pliable, subservient mindset

There was a reason I told the TV to fuck off during commericals or obvious "You should think this way" doing the show moments.

Ya'll were weak fucking children with weak minds. Good to see some lads coming around though.

OP Here,
Laptop battery died at 20% somehow

It's real interesting seeing everyone's take on this. I've wanted to get into genetic thought patterns and such (understanding why my ancestors approved of Soviet rule but why USA was so against it) in the differences in core values, similar to how we all hate niggers because of what they do, yet we can't imagine why they think this way in the first way but only say that they're stupid. Perhaps if we could understand what they're thinking in their ape brains we could get someplace.

Just searched it up, interesting to say the least...

I was looking into something similar to this the other day. a guy was travelling Africa learning about their languages. he discovered they have significantly less words than other civilisations as its not written down there are a set amount of words that they all know. for example if i were to say the coconut is at the top of the tree. they only have the ability to say coconut up. if you also take into consideration the average IQ and general more instant gratification behaviours you can start to see the issue. it has taken western civilisation hundreds of years to embed civilised behaviour

Elluls thesis on propoganda

that's book is a true tome but incredibly accurate and insightful

Just so you know, most journalists are true-believers. It's kind of shocking. The most damning thing I've seen was when Olivia Nuzzi published an article on how Pepe was linked to white nationalists based on some interviews with a couple of twitter/pol posters. thedailybeast com/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol
Lie makes it all the way to the Clinton Campaign archive.is/ juinO
Daily caller interviewing the two trolls: dailycaller com/2016/09/14/heres-how-two-twitter-pranksters-convinced-the-world-that-pepe-the-frog-meme-is-just-a-front-for-white-nationalism/
Jesse Singal Writes a NYMag article about the revealing of troll sources: nymag com/selectall/2016/09/how-internet-trolls-won-the-2016-presidential-election.html
Gets tweeted out by Nuzzi twitter com/Olivianuzzi/status/776783809551400960 Confirms that she knows the sources are compromised, but does not offer retraction, apology, or additional note.
oneangrygamer net/2016/09/the-daily-beast-alt-right-pepe-article-debunked-no-corrections-made/11938/ reports on this lack of integrity.
Basically, after everyone knew the two troll sources were compromised, the lie was still believed.
Seriously: archive.is/dCdiA


I don't hate people based on their race.
I unironically think discrimination based on class is a way better system.
Also I'm mixed race, so the concept of giving a shit about race is pretty much completely beyond me.

Fuck spam filter.

Interesting thread OP. You're exactly right, powerful people know American media is watched all over the world, they can't just let average joe the goy make his own non propagandized films.

Though be careful being immune since you don't watch TV. There's plenty of shit online that can influence you as well.

nostik fags, you need to go back, you're not wanted here in our material world

You talking about this image? This opened my eyes a lot to how Africans think.

Holy fuck thanks for that recommendation.

Yes user that's the one. I believe its like a bandwidth kind like have autistic people are socially. Black people physically I would say are superior think Usain Bolt,Mo Farrah but lack the same mental capacity to that of say an Asian who physically are the weakest but have the best brain power. Whites seem to be in the sweet spot of decent IQ and decent physicality that is the theory I have in my head to explain things going on at the moment. Can't forget either that from day dot black people have been told they are victims by families and the media making them feel entitled which with low IQ is a recipe for disaster

My bad, when I use the term nigger I'm talking about the dregs of society. I don't single out people based on race but based off of quality of character, there just happens to be a noticeable correlation between the two. Where I live it's 25% black and it's the safest (Safe to take walks in the middle of the woods at 3AM level) place in the county and the area by a decent bit.

Got this queued to read later on, thanks!

Instant gratification, didn't think about that one: The thrill of killing, glorification of shooting and having a gun, spending a shit ton of money versus saving, blasting music, sex with everyone, etc.

Without a doubt. I try my best to get my message out as clearly as possible but am always willing to explain myself when I do mess up. I am very tuned to look for special words in reading. A lot of the new ones seem to be words like "empower" "fighting" "(noun) of (adjective)" "unity" "together" "strong" and so on so forth. Basically, words that you'd hear a woman make up to make themselves feel more relevant because half the time that's what the case is now that they're allowed to mess with things because muh emotions.
The way I look at it now is that if people don't like what I have to say too much, no matter how I put it, some won't like it or refuse to believe so I just don't care about that category.

Read this a while back, very eye-opening. I knew I had heard of that before.

This

Pretty much from the day I started bothering to pay attention to news on TV. It just so happened that almost everything they said was either only half true or nearly completely false, or a gross misrepresentation.

a link for the curious
tavaana.org/sites/default/files/Ellul_Jacques_-_Propaganda.pdf

I got an early head's up on the news when the local TV station aired a report about something that had gone down at my high school. It was barely connected to the truth. That prompted me to ask myself if maybe all of the rest of the TV news was so disconnected.

Things most noticed by me now are things in how the media tries to avoid responsibility. Look at the video in pic related, at the start they say things like from "common to very rare" and if ever given shit, they fallback onto the "well it was X and we didn't mean to imply that sorry goyim"

Same thing happened here. Tried to post the accurate info about an incident at my school years back and it was just deleted right there and then.

When I went to college.

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By that time I was already asking myself what all these young people were doing on the TV and how people could take them seriously. Gone were the days of listening to voices of authority like Tom Brokaw or Paul Harvey who told you how it really was. Got me thinking ahead my dumbass generation was going to be running the world some day, and what a disaster that was going to be (turns out I was right).

On the other hand, that also provided a good look-back when I found out about things like Operation Mockingbird and Edward Bernays and watched Walter Cronkite's acceptance speech for some kind of prize for promoting global socialism. But at least they had a better standard of professionalism in that generation. These days they've jumped the shark.

You are food for the mental machine, pleading out of ignorance and despair.

Study illuminate for 50 years
> It's the Jews

Another issue I see is with liberals. I actually think many of them get to that (being libtards) by actually seeing something is wrong but they seem to lack the wherewithal or intellect to break free from the system or even confidence we are wolfs they are sheep. and they somehow end up in this muddled place worse than when they started completely at the mercy of the propaganda machine. kinda like the theory that the real world in the matrix is another matrix. We have by whatever means gone down the right path and found out the big lie but they are now stuck in the system.

I think it takes a certain level of intellectual motivation. I wandered into some voices with the right mix of entertainment and counter-narrative rhetoric with citations that I could follow up on for claims I found to be interesting enough to poke around on the internet about during lunch breaks and to later spend a few years furiously reading books to try to figure out wtf exactly are all these people thinking about so intensely.

I don't think that's really everybody's cup of tea. And it probably also helped that I'd had a relatively blank slate, having decided early on that everything going on in the world was such a tiresomely complicated wad of bullshit that I might as well just stick to my little autistic corner of it.

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My personal experience was that I was a huge Bernie guy from the get go. Really loved his message, and while I didn't understand or agree with his economic policy, I thought his genuine-sounding (whether real or not, I don't know, but it seems real) message resonated extremely well with the people. I wasn't surrounded by people who had convincing enough arguments and data to convince me otherwise, so I stayed where I was. Eventually the primary rigging happened and I knew right away fuck anything DNC , did research and well what would you know, jews!

It took me far too long, user, far too long.

>programming
Let me flip on the TV and see what program is playing right now...
There is a reason they call it TV programming.

I actually went the opposite way i was smoking lots of weed then and found myself watching loads of Illuminati videos and so forth. The Politics came second for me it just took mind altering substances to really open up my threshold for more abstract thought.

OP on mobile, pic related is the transmitter I still own. Will send you all the necessaey equipment for cryptocurrency if interested

Retard here, forgot pictute

>thread theme

youtube.com/watch?v=AKs_-Burkgo

If I was liberal a week ago, I'd be redpilled today with my experiences on LSD. I just took it 6 days ago haha, was something else. In fact, I'll copy and paste my notes I typed on LSD where I even MENTIONED (((them))) on it

I think LSD and forming effectively minor criminal gangs with my college friends that were successful because we thought it was funny to think way out of bounds of what everybody else was doing really reformed what I thought a "conspiracy" or anything like that was. That made it a lot easier to understand how those games get played, whether they're fully intentional or not.

So in that sense for me politics also came second. It's just that I'm big on being able to cross-verify information, not just seeing the likely patterns.

For sure, it's a great and satisfying feeling once you can have verified connections (or if it's so obviously linked you just know it is, I consider that too as long as I know I'm not confirmation-biased)

youtube.com/watch?v=XPZz0235eIA took me all but 5 seconds to know this song was redpilled

What if i told you xbox live was designed to create the type of people needed to save the west in the times we are now in?
Xbox was the worst of the worst to many but in an evil world good men are seen as bad.

Yeah, MJK is a redpilled lyricist most of the time, even if he doesn't realise it.

First time I took LSD i was in Israel (not Jewish i was sent there ironically to get away from drugs) at the sea of galilee in a psytrance festival in a water park. Double dropped the liquid stuff and as i was coming up a guy i was tripping with said 'Welcome to the level' it fucking blew my mind and is the coolest thing anyone has ever said to me. The experience was something else. And it has taken me a long time to piece together the bigger picture but i'm getting there.

Had you microdosed LSD or carried out plans formed on LSD while sober? I'm considering trying microdosing LSD after such a profound experience I had.

For sure, it's an experience one would have to make new words in order to describe. Profound, for sure. Don't let time bother you, that's what the truth will do.

Meant to post my notes from the LSD trip, give me one moment

To everyone talking about LSD, I would recommend trying shrooms. They are naturally occuring and don't have to be synthesized in a lab.

The real stuff is DMT but i stay away from it all now.

Dont apologize, it even admitted to being mixed race ie a fucking nigger
Epigenetics user epigenetics

DMT is way too intense. I thought my mind was imploding on itself. The 'high' felt like it lasted hours but in reality it only lasted about 10 minutes.

I tired using very small doses for a while just to see what it would be like to use as a stimulant to stay up and do homework or how it would change what a lecture were like, but I found it to be a waste of potential. Those were probably above what microdoses are considered to be.

I carried out my plans sober in between regular more substantial trips. It was basically a process of reinventing who I was and what my life was going to be. People I knew (who didn't know I was dropping acid regularly) started to wonder what had happened that I wasn't such an autistic, moody shut-in anymore.

I hear some people get on with them better. But LSD is where it's at for my already half-manic half-psychotic mind.

That's funny. I'm interviewing with them tomorrow.

i'd probably call you a fucking idiot

LSD makes you spinal collum bleed. As the blood drops on your optic nerve, you see splotches of light/ tracers.
Shrooms cause the halucinations in the brain, not a result of bleeding in the brainstem.

Currently MDing shrooms, feels a lot more natural than LSD without a shadow of a doubt.

Notes:
"the jews are manifesting a new world in which they want everyone to be observable but still 'allowed to do their thing' as long as we remain observed and kept within their restriction"

"the stress of staring at that flashing blue line (on my phone, meaning I need to type to get "the message" passed to others) to pass this information, the time. the third eye is truth. "governments" legitimacy is established by how much we are told to fear it. truth shall find its way"

"yes it's worth it
in more meanings than one
the meme is real
we joke
we don't realize

how blind we are
to the distractions of other things
of seeing the one
true
thing
unity between all (LSD makes me a hippy lol but still)

so what it's a meme
we joke about the simplicity of something so easy yet things people never find within themselves

the
literal
redpill
is truth

finding true values within eachother
pure bliss
is what we miss"

Thoughts?


DMT was my first drug I ever did besides weed. It was crazy... did it twice in one night, first one I forget everything besides the enlightenment, 2nd one had a funny memory of my (same one mentioned in my first post, we're still good friends) friend putting the vape in my mouth so I could inhale and I thought I had gotten Weinstein'd.

Please try not to sound like a stereotypical shroomhead.

I'm not. I just want people to be aware that LSD causes bleeding of the brainstem. That's why the only way to drug test for LSD is to do a spinal fluid test.

It's water soluble. You'd do a hair test.

Yeah I think it would be to much for me. I know who I am now (we are). And i know whats on the other side so I am content in whatever may happen in the future. Once you get to the realisation of who we truly are you have nothing left to do but enjoy it and enjoy life to the fullest its medicine for the soul. Albeit with a chemistry cheat code.