Why do you support censorship?

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Republican lawmakers in four states—Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana—have authored legislation to banning books with LGBT characters and themes from school libraries in the past. None have been successful.

in 2016, half of the titles on the American Library Association’s list of Top Ten Most Challenged Books included LGBT characters, including Jazz Jennings’ memoir I Am Jazz, and David Levithan’s novel Two Boys Kissing. In 2015, Alison Bechdel’s Fun Home, later turned into a hit Broadway musical, also made the list.

“We worry about what it means to define certain content, such as LGBTQ content, as being inappropriate for young readers,” Mariko Tamaki, author of the frequently challenged This One Summer, told the New York Times, “which implicitly defines readers who do relate to this content, who share these experiences, as not normal. When really they are part of the diversity of young people’s lives.”

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literally just setting things back to how it was.

Why do they need to learn it?

i don't support censorship, i do support killing faggots though

>INVADES CHILD EDUCATION

>CALLS IT CENCORSHIP WHEN YOU SAY NO

Alright, if you truly are against Censorship, lets let them learn Mein Kampf in school, without "annotations".

I mean reading passages from it in the context of a European History class? Sure.

>children required to attend state schools

why do you support internment camps? if you denounce mandatory schooling, you can have your
fag sit-downs.

No faggot, just have it available in the school library for any kid to take home and read.

Why Not? Do you support censorship?

So you have no problem with them learning about the interwar periord, the spartacan revolt and the names of the communist leaders?

>debating what's wholesome to stock in a school library
>oy vey its anudda shoah
and you wonder why people hate you

crickets from op.

When you try to use a moral straw man and get BTFO

Because libs rely on their emotions they never think about what their saying

or op is a weak khazarian who can't really fight. at the first sign of possible defeat, he cries out in
pain and runs away.

I don't think the audience of that book was for kids, but I would have no problems with it being available for high school students.

I don't have a problem with kids learning about history. I'm pretty sure Men Kampf is available in full online if someone were so interested to read it. I don't think it is meant for kids, whereas some of these gay books are meant for gay kids or kids with gay parents explicitly. I mean I don't think it would cause PROBLEMS if in an elementary school library, I also don't think very many 11 years old give a shit enough to read it.

y u no answer my question about not forcing children to go to school?

Kids can be homeschooled, they just have to follow a curriculum.

>censorship
There's a difference in not letting children watch a horror movie and censorship.
Let them be kids god damnit, if they want to study mental illness they can do that in college

>curriculum

What about simple base subject testing? STEM, history, geography.

>can be homeschooled

So you condemn states that don't allow this?

there should not be any sexual material available in school libraries
none, nada
why not? because kids can't consent to sex (by law) and polluting young minds with sexual reading material should be a crime on the same level as giving them alcohol

I wasn't aware any states did forbid homeschooling. There are just rules to make sure people aren't lazy and barely teach anything to their kids.

>There are just rules

Right, core testing. No need for a mandatory curriculum.

If a state did forbid homeschooling, would you condemn it?

Also: on the original topic, there's always censorship. There's no gore porn in the library;
what you're asking is whether we support a censorship of homosexual material. Otherwise,
you're stating that you're OK with gore porn in children's libraries - since if you don't, you're pro-
censorship.

Yes. I don't think kids need to be in public schools as long as they get a good education.

That said, no state forbids homeschooling so your argument is moot.

I am not suggesting we place violent or sexual content in libraries. If you believe that sex = sexual orientation then you understand our argument that the Civil Rights Act has us covered.

So, platonic sex?
Are you from /fit/ or something?

So you agree that sex and sexual orientation are invariably the same?

Banning literal propaganda designed to push children to ruin their bodies for the rest of their lives is not the same as the left's censorship of normal opinions under the guise of combating hatespeech.

If you wanna tell me "Two Boys Kissing" is an entirely platonic work then feel free to. You'd be lying, so I hope you don't.

You have to concede that at least some of those classifications are valid. Hypotheticals hardly matters when they're talking of specific books.

Do you agree that sex and sexual orientation are inextricably linked?

I don't know what you're trying to say with that clunky language, nor do I really care. It's a list of specific books, hypotheticals are irrelevant.

ban from school... you know where they are suppose to be objective and only teach necessary skills to develop you as a human being. they dint day ban it altogether.

Kind of like how they never said 2 people of the same sex couldnt be together, just that it wasnt marriage and shouldnt be paying homos to have butt sex bc of their lifestyle. 2 dudes doesnt contribute to society simply by being together. a man and a woman will always be the building block of any society as they raise the next generation and that a healthy family and staying together should be promoted and paramount (tax breaks, etc).

now your LGBT community is calling everyone a bigot and getting peoples lives ruined or fired from their jobs if they dont agree with you.

typical leftys. give an inch and they will eventually ruin your community.

Is sex related to sexual orientation? I'm pretty clear.

It helps no one to be reductive.
If you're wondering whether "no homo" is a valid defense, no. It isn't.

That's not what I am wondering. If someone is hated for their sexual orientation, are you hating them in part because of how they fit into sex stereotypes?

>sex stereotypes
What?

Is this the "what's wrong with a pedophile if he doesn't act on it?" argument? Really, we're not gonna get anywhere if you continue to be so ambiguous.

That men should behave in certain ways is a stereotype no?

No, that's a value. That men do is a stereotype.

I am not talking about pedophilia. Men are expected to be interested in say hunting and guns. If they are interested in knitting, that defies sex stereotypes, no?

Men do?

you want to promote gay sex to minors and that's not pedo?
how mentally ill are you?

That's not what I said.

>I am not talking about pedophilia
It's an analogy.
Should is a value judgement. Does, an observation. Yes, knitting is an atypical hobby.

I don't see what this has to do with "Two Boys Kissing" supposedly being a platonic work.

Gay kids should have a right to see positive role models in media. These books don't really exist for straight kids. You have plenty of books featuring men and women who fall in love. Kids know how that is supposed to work. There are plenty of sexual education books designed for kids that teach about straight sex.

Ok so a man who is flamboyant fails to conform to male sex stereotypes you agree?

No. Stereotypes are typical behaviors, not values. You don't fail, it's not a value judgement. You simply don't adhere to it.

A fop doesn't adhere to typical male behavior. Not fails to.

im personally 100% against censorship and i support freedom of speech for both sides. im not a hypocrite.

>I don't think it is meant for kids, whereas some of these gay books are meant for gay kids or kids with gay parents explicitly.
That's even worse faggot. Kids are pumped with holohoax and faggot propaganda but being taught anything of substance is so evil and racist

yes, and I have already stated that any material that promotes sex to minors should be banned from schools
I would happily include Romeo and Juliet in that ban
You are the one who is pushing for more deviant sexual material to be made available to minors....are you a pedo?

Flamboyancy isn't atypical behavior?

Oh we're gonna have to get full on fascist I think.
Book burning and all.
You know when Hitler and the Nazi's burned all those books it was just Commie school propaganda they were trying to get rid of?
No shit.

No. I wish that I had more positive gay characters that I could have learned about as a kid. Why is merely including gay characters in a story sexual but straight characters are not?

muh chilluns

ban all books containing sexuality* **

*in American tax funded schools
**especially from faggots

Lesbian, gay, or bisexual?

discord gg/Y5YSPWR

It is, but typical behavior(stereotypes) are not ideals. It's neutral, good or bad, it's mere observation and contains no value judgments. Look at niggers, the stereotype of being violent, stupid, illiterate, unable to speak properly and lack of self-control. Stereotypes are not value judgments. They are not ideals. They're observations.

People are too stupid for their own good.

Homosexuality is a mental illness and should be treated as such.

Ok, so if someone is fired from a job because they are too flamboyant and male, you would agree they were fired because of their sexual characteristics?

psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html

You'll have to clarify what you mean, I don't see how that's a sexual characteristic.

because identifying a person as "gay" literally inserts their sexual behavior into the story, no matter how benign the story may seem
identifying a child as gay, even in a work of fiction, is sexualizing children....something only a pedo would do
so, again, are you a pedo?

>ban faggot books
good start. banning faggots next

Kids don't need their minds poisoned w that shit. Idgaf what high schoolers read, but eight grade and below is too young for your Marxist horseshit brainwashing

Because they fail to conform to sex stereotypes. They were fired because they don't meet their employer's definition of how men should behave.

*burning

because kids shouldn't read your sick fucking pedophile shit
you and your buttbuddies stay away from kids and other people. gays should be segregated at the very least

I'm not going for another spin. Lurk until you learn English.

If you want to teach "the big gay book of sucking dick" then I should be able to teach Mien Kampf and The Doctrine of Fascism. Don't want me to? CENSORSHIP

>automatic sexuality
If you compulsively visualize anal sex in response to learning that a character in a story is gay, maybe you should try it for yourself.

That was rendered in English.

If someone is fired for being flamboyant, they were fired for failing to meet someone else's expectations of how a sex (male) should behave. No?

Fuck that, I don't want faggot books available anywhere, period. And for you faggots, keep the shit indoors or you should be lynched. It time we take this country back and return to civilized values. Faggots and niggers are ruining this country

If someone is fired for being too flamboyant, that is totally within the purview of a private employer, as they are presumably held by their contract to act in a certain way, which they were not.

If they were fired for failing to conform to sex stereotypes, that violated the Civil Rights Act.

you're retarded
if gay sexuality should not be on display (kissing, holding hands) then neither should any straight

I can't wait till we finally get to ban yucky breeders from holding hands in public once mandatory state-enforced homosexuality is *finally* law.

The civil rights act is an illegal act under human rights, as a private contract should not be overruled by legislation of any kind.

If I want to sell my brain to science, and in the process die, then that is my business and the government intervening and preventing that is an act of tyranny

So I can make private contracts to sell children into sex slavery?

If those children are your property, then sure.

Or if children are not your property (be that because they are their own free person or because they are owned by the state) then you are violating someone elses rights

Do "faggots" refer to gay people here? And does it exclusively? If so, why do you support killing gay people, out of curiosity?

So you can sell your own kids into sex slavery?

Why do you assume they're fine with normal smut?

Yes, until they are of such an age that they can refuse

So I can sell my male children to other males?

and there we have it
you are a pedo fag and you literally think that promoting sex to minors is fine

>maybe you should try it for yourself
that's why you should all be banned from the public square
trying out gay sex? I thought you were born that way, hmm? or did you have some gay anal sex as a minor and wind up so mentally damaged that you actually think that it's a good thing?
gays don't reproduce, they recruit new members
all of you should be kept as far away from children as possible, and all of your degenerate reading material should be burned

That makes no sense; you are conflating sexual attraction with the behaviours of individuals.

What is the "shit" they need to keep indoors? Please be more specific so I can criticise your points.

Keeping faggotry out of schools is what we should do. that not censorship they can just perform faggotry somewhere else

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KILL ALL THE GAYS AND THE FAGGOTS

why do faggots get aids?
>god hates you
>evolution hates you
>i hate you

I hope you die of butt disease homo faggot bitch asswhipe

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>censorship is fine when it legitimizes my bigotry

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>Gay kids

There are no gay kids. There are mentally I'll kids and poser attention whores. Stop sexualizing children into your perverted cult of ideas as some kind of moral justification.

He is straight?

It's a pre-pubertal kid you fucking pervert.

>Some people don't get AIDS as much therefore it's perfectly fine to be gay

Lol stupid faggot

I knew I was not straight when I was 8.

Yes. Man you are fucking dense faggots.

My dad worked for Nintendo when I was 8.

See how easy it is to make shit up?

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I had to change sometimes around other boys and I knew I liked looking at them from around age 6 when someone caught me staring and made a comment and I remember to this day the flushing and feeling of being "caught".

he is the victim of child abuse
he is mentally ill
he has been sexualized by adults
he will most likely die by his own hand or drug overdose at a young age
his fame is proof that all gays/degenerates are accepting of and even promote pedophilia and the sexualization of minors
just as you are doing in this thread

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