>be hungarian >settle in the Carpathian Basin >it's comfy as fuck, nice big land to live on >then suddenly the mongol horde arrives >devastates most of the country and slays almost the majority of the population >now the economy is in ruins as there is barely anyone to work the fields >our smart leaders say: "we need immigrants!" >allow german and romanian settlers to start and settle in the unoccupied lands >these people never integrate as they live in their own communities so they have no need to >fast forward >ottomans threaten the country and conquer the balkans, we defend christianity >serbian refugees want to enter the country as their lands have been destroyed by the turks >allow them to, why not >they never integrate and keep being orthodox >ottomans conquer half the country, most of it becomes a constant warzone >depopulation >later, when the country is mostly liberated, the country's leaders once again realize there are a lot of depopulated areas and say "we need more immigrants!" >allow even more romanians, germans and various slavs to settle in >the hungarians never really intend to destroy the culture of these people to begin with, except for a small period of "hungarization" later which fails in a stellar manner >fast forward >1918 >the war has been lost >turns out the hungarian population of the country did not even reach 50% >all the ethnicities within our borders demand independence or reunification with their mother countries because nationalism and hurr durr the evil magyar keepin' us down >Treaty of Trianon >2/3rds of the country is taken from us, along with more than half of its population, including millions of hungarians who are now forced to live in countries that hate them >almost 100 years later, some of our leaders start to say that we need immigrants again
Just... no. Have we learned nothing from our own history? That allowing alien cultures to live and breed on our lands inevitably leads to a national catastrophe?
The best (or worst, depending on how you look at it) part of it is that Orbán and his buddies have sold settlement bonds in a really shady manner to many wealthy arab businessmen... including Saudis, who are known to be the prime financers of terrorism... AND allow hundreds of thousands of migrants through the country in 2015 because he knew Hungary is just a transit country and they wanted to go to Western Europe for fat gibs.
You can bet if the EU suddenly offered a ton of cash for each migrant taken in, he'd also suddenly find an excuse which with he could take in them poor refugees. As if gypsies weren't enough already.
Ryan Sanchez
You don’t get it? Hungarians are mongrelized scum just like Romanians, Slovaks, Serbs and whatever trash lives next to them
Ayden Lewis
And you can know not even most of the opposition believes truly in immigration... they just feel compelled to say the opposite of what Orbán says to appear as if they had a brain or
Anthony Lopez
That's real funny coming from a tartar.
Robert King
>>allow german and romanian settlers to start and settle in the unoccupied lands >romanian
hahaha
Sebastian Collins
no mongol shit in any European gene pool. It’s a meme by the Poles and their Jews from Napoleonic Wars.
mongols and tatrars carry Y-DNA markers like C3* and R1a-Z293. These markers don't show up in native Europeans.
The genghis cuckhan paternal lineage is non-existent in Eastern Europe, but common all over Asia where the Mongols were present for a long time. digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol/vol84/iss1/4
Why did the Poles spread that defamation? Inferiority complex driven by jealousy towards homogenous (and then Apartheid) Rus-Russia
Poles cant claim that Poland didn’t : A - gave refuge to subhuman gypsies killed by Germans B - bring armenians to Europe C - give a homeland to the jews D - import lipka tatars
And speaking of expansion, should I remind you how many time Poland aided tatars and mongols to fuck up Rus that was struggling against them? Or how many times Poles marched eastward?
Russians and Germans must exterminate like a half of Central Europe and then go full total annihliation on Southeastern once. Europe for Europeans
Blake Clark
>muh christcucktianity >muh ebil turks
you're turks yourself magyar. stop deluding yourself with semite religions and embracing fake identities. yes we do the same with ar*b shit
Blake Stewart
>ottomans threaten the country and conquer the balkans, we defend christianity
LMAOOOOOO
niggers, you were the ones to attack Balkans along with Ottomans
David Mitchell
Hungarians are unrelated to Pannonians
Samuel Hernandez
Read a history book that isn't fabricated by your government so support the romanian narrative of "we wuz always here".
>Ioan de Huniade
lmao sure
Sebastian Parker
You're literally retarted. Every Russian, no matter how white he may look, has some East Asian admixture in him.
Jace Diaz
It's a bit hard to shake off 1000 years of christian traditions and return to our own brand of tengriism overnight, turkfriend. And no, we're not turks, we're finno-ugoric, but turkic cultures have heavily influenced us.
Maybe not in native Europeans, but you were raped the hardest by mongols and tatars, so stop deluding yourself you're some kind of pureblood aryan slav and accept you're a shitty mongrel like everyone else in Russia, Ivan.
Hunter Powell
vlachs (romanians) and slavs were in the carpathian basin before hungarians. check your history. many "olah" in your documents.
James Perez
>Read a history book that isn't fabricated by your government so support the romanian narrative of
state education completely ignores turk history before islam you idiot. real state research of turk history stopped with ataturk's death. all claims of turk history that doesn't fit in (((official))) history is ridiculed and disregarded in turkey
you and bulgarians are assimilated and brainwashed into believing that you're (((europeans))). come to your senses and return to yourself turk man
Jack Barnes
No, those were bulgarian slavs who fucked off r got assimilated after the conquest. Vlachs got settled in later to replenish our diminishing population. I know it's hard to accept the truth after 12+ years of brainwashing by the romanian education system, but try, for your own sake, please.
Jacob Nelson
Shut up you god damned assimilated arabised-mongolised neo-greek
Thomas Reed
Take your schizophrenic medication, Mustafa, then calm the fuck down.
Bentley King
I'm partially Hungarian. Its always been one of the countries that defends Europe from invaders and then gets fucked over by Europe. No. Magyars are uralics. The ural-altaic theory is unproven (tho likely), and that wouldn't make us turks. But the biggest problem is that modern turks from turkey are mostly descended from greeks and arabs hittites and kurds. In the same way Hungarians are mostly genetically similar to Slavs and Germans and only distantly related to the Eurasian horsemen that brought the language. I don't have anything against turkey btw, just don't see the connection like that.
Nicholas Gray
>Vlachs got settled in later to replenish our diminishing population
Where is the document?Surely by Middle Ages all migrations were recorded.Even a few hunred years ago the migrations in Transylvania were recorded, for example the szeklers,saxons,jews etc
But the million dollar question is:Why would the Hungarian Kingdom settle an Orthodox population , especially in presumbly majorily Catholic areas?
Christopher Martinez
HAHAHA, it's Russians who were always jealous of Poland. In the XVI and XVII century your whole royal court spoke Polish, because it was thought of as civilized language. The problem is you were always barbarians, the remnants of mongol horde, there is literally nothing european about you. Putin himself said that your heritage is mongoloid, when asked who Stalin reminds him off he said Genghis Chan. Europe ends on Poland, to the east it's Asia, always was like that.
Matthew Moore
This jewish divide and conquer shit needs to stop, Romanians and Hungarians have DNA much closer to what most people think
Julian Ortiz
Hungary allowed the Serbs to settle down in today's Voivodina, as well, purely because medieval Hungary, before and especially after the Reformation, was always notably religiously tolerant.
Settlement of Vlachs started mostly after the plague of 1348-49. Romanians were eager to settle in Hungary even hundreds of years later, because the taxes were lower in Transylvania (that was a free principality even after Mohács) than in Wallachia and Moldova, which were Ottoman vassal states.
Andrew Long
>this is what bozgors actually believe
Logan Wright
no one is turkic according to (((experts))). huns are not turkic, turukkeans are not turkic, most of the central asian peoples are not turkic. hell, even turks in turkey are not turkic. so where the fuck are these people? they ruled and traveled most of the world and they simply vanished?
turks were both a literal race and a way of life which was accepted by many other steppe people. what are the tenants of turkic culture?
>love the one true god >love nature >freedom >men & women equality >respect ancestors
you don't need to drop jesus' teachings but you have to drop the (((church))) and we have to abandon shitty ar*b culture
I don't give a fuck about theories and shit. yes we're all racemixed af as nomadic people. what matters is what lies in your heart. the term "european" is just a trap to cover real history. if you think they're telling the truth about history while you know every single other thing they say are lies, well you're naive at best
Aaron White
Russians are Finn-Balt-Germanics speaking Slavic by accident. Many of Pols are tatarir-judeo-gypsy subhumans that must be exterminated The Poles are literally the most Asiatic and Jewish “Slavic” ethnic group. Given that historic Polish definition of progress is having Tatar cock in one hole and a Jewish one in the other, while some Armenian fucks his wife, I guess even modern Russia and Germany are pretty backwards for your liking.
I can claim that the general share of Ashkenazi Jewish, Lipka Tatar or Armenian ancestry among the general population in Poland lays between 30-40% That means Poland is 60-70% white, as white as mongrel United States was 30 years ago
Let that sink in lmao, even Germany with 10mln nonwhites and massive influx of "refugees", gypsy infested Slovenia and gook-ape overrun Russia are all more European than Poland
Noah Lee
Everyone should take notice how the modern romanian's views eerily resemble those of an afro-american who believes in the "we wuz kangz" theory.
Their narrative dictates Transylvania was always romanian, always settled by romanians,which is a blatant lie.
There wouldn't even be any hostility between the two peoples nowadays if not for our retarded politicians and the brainwashing done in romanian schools.
David Nelson
hmm no?
The Great Migrations of the Serbs (Serbian: Velike seobe Srba/Beликe ceoбe Cpбa), also known as the Great Exodus of the Serbs, refers mainly to two large migrations of ethnic Serbs from the Ottoman Empire to the Habsburg Monarchy.
Hungarians had no word in it as back then you were de facto under Habsburgs and moreso Vojvodina waas still largely serbian even before.
>In 1690, Emperor Leopold I allowed the refugees gathered on the banks of the Sava and Danube in Belgrade to cross the rivers and settle in the Habsburg Monarchy.
Nicholas Gray
>Settlement of Vlachs started mostly after the plague of 1348-49.
Where are the chronicles?Writtings?Surely there must be atleast one.
>Romanians were eager to settle in Hungary even hundreds of years later, because the taxes were lower in Transylvania (that was a free principality even after Mohács) than in Wallachia and Moldova, which were Ottoman vassal states.
Hahaha, the hungarians were worse than the Ottomans, and the situation in Transylvania was worse for romanians than in W or M.Forgot Unio Trium Nationum? Here's another question.How many revolutions romanians had in Transylvania because of the cruel hungarian regime and how many revolutions romanians had in Wallachia or Moldavia because of the "cruel" romanian/ottoman/phanariot regime?
After Transylvania fell under Hungarian rulers, massive emigration occurred of Transylvanian Romanians who had to renounce their fatherland and their possessions and flee from the unparalleled cruelty of the Hungarian rulers. Documents attest to the massive flight of Romanians from Transylvania. Declaration of Joseph II, Austria's Emperor, made at Arad on April 21, 1768: "It seems incredible", said the Emperor, "that at a single court of justice 69-70 defendants should be tried every three months.This number is too high...... The Romanians are iltreated. They are frequently constrained to abandon their houses and ground to others and to move out. Many of them emigrate for this very reason." (In Arad v;rmegye es Arad Szabad Kiraly v;ros Monographi;bo, Jancso Benedek II k_tet, Arad 1895).
Julian Moore
In 1773 a memorandum was submitted to the Imperial Court of Vienna by the Romanians of Transylvania. In it they said that: "Thousands of Romanians are passing to the other side of the Carpathians into the Romanian Principality and into Moldavia, so that the inhabitants of these countries, stupefied by the invasion, exclaimed: All Transylvanians are coming among us!" (Stupefactia vociferari auditi sunt: Tota Transylvania ad nos venit) (Romulus Seisanu, "Romania", Bucharest, Imprimeria Nationala, 1939, p. 30). In 1878, Sulzer likewise mentioned this social phenomenon: "Many family from Transylvania abandoned their country and their farms and settled here in Romania.... 8.000 Transylvanian Romanian refugees have settled here in mine time under the name of 'Ungureni'", (Romulus Seisanu, ibidem). And Bernard Auerbach, in "Les races et les nationalitIs" (apud Romulus Seisanu, op. cit. p. 30) says: "Thus, while the Magyar nobility, the Szekels and the Saxons formed the trinity of Transylvanian nations, the Wallachian nation was excluded from all political rights; its condition was so hard that many emigrated in the 18th century to Moldavia and Turkey, preferring the regime of the boyars and pashas".
Tyler Parker
what the fuck does this gypsy want? toss a bunch of coins and send him away. I'm trying to tell you something here
Jacob Perry
Kéne posztolni.
Benjamin Turner
What is the point of this? >have Transilvania for 1000+ years >yet the majority of people speak Romanian and hate hun*arians,even the germans you brought there
If you post this 10 times a day,the treaty of Trianon will be canceled and Hungary will have the old borders wowowoww!GO HUNGARY!!!
Ian Nelson
>He thinks the magyar horde Just peacefully settled in the carpathian basin. Come on.
Joshua Walker
>1773 Are you retarded or something? You're quoting minor frictions between the majority population and minorities. Erdély didn't have Romanian rulership for 800 years to that point, and you're even quoting that Vlachs lost their university under Louis I., so they had absolutely no legal representation or anything. If Hungarians would've been really that cruel or anti-Romanian in their sentiments we could've gotten rid of you under your imaginary 900 year holocaust.
Nolan Moore
>You're quoting minor frictions between the majority population and minorities
Minor?Says who?You. They represent very well the reality of that time.
>he Romanian could not appeal for justice against Hungarians and Saxons, but the latter could turn in the Romanian (1552); the Hungarian (Hungarus) accused of robbery could be defended by the oath of the village judge and three honest men, while the Romanian (Valachus) needed the oath of the village knez, four Romanians and three Hungarians (1542); the Hungarian peasant could be punished after being accused by seven trustworthy people, while the Romanian was punished after accusations by only three (1554).
> and you're even quoting that Vlachs lost their university under Louis I., so they had absolutely no legal representation or anything
what University are you talking about?Officialy, romanians had no rights since 1437 untill 19th century.
>If Hungarians would've been really that cruel or anti-Romanian in their sentiments we could've gotten rid of you under your imaginary 900 year holocaust.
But if they got rid of the majority of the working class, then who would be left to work?
Sebastian Taylor
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Josiah Hill
Just leaving this here.
Jace Morales
The Habsburgs made that up ffs. When will the finno-ugoric meme ends?
Ayden Long
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Nathaniel Nguyen
>On August 3rd 1919 4 squadrons (400 soldiers) of 6th cavalry regiment of the 4th brigade led by colonel Rusescu arrive on the outskirts of Budapest (at the time a 1 million people city). Colonel Rusescu's detachment was on an advanced scouting mission, 1 day ahead of the Romanian army. Worried the retreating Hungarian units might decide to defend Budapest Rusescu decides to bluff the city into surrendering. >He presents the authorities in Budapest with a stern ultimatum: the Romanian artillery batteries are aimed at the city and unless he returns with the immediate unconditional surrender the bombardment would start in 60 minutes. What he doesn't tell is the "Romanian artillery batteries" are actually two light artillery pieces, completely outnumbered, outranged and outguned by what the city has in its barracks. Budapest surrenders.
John Cook
>>the hungarians never really intend to destroy the culture of these people to begin with, except for a small period of "hungarization" later which fails in a stellar manner That's because up until then it was Austria not Austria-Hungary Taking Slovak children for "reeducation" is definition of genocide according to UN
Sneaky Laszlo covering crimes against humanity. Those lands were never yours to begin with.
Henry Perez
This is how retarded Russians actually are, everybody. Spewing nonsensical bullshit and at the same time posting an image directly contradicting their bullshit and not even noticing. How does that happen, you ask? Well, it's because Russians are literally too fucking dumb to understand the data on the image. Literally nigger tier intelligence.
Henry Nelson
>allow german and romanian settlers to start and settle in the unoccupied lands
Bozgors are a deadly combination of idiocy AND arrogance if they think it's up to them to "Allow the settling of unoccupied lands". On the other hand, the country is not called HUNgary for nothing. Fucking remnants of chinks.
Jace Thompson
You are a newfag.
He is not Russian.
He is a notorious /pol poster.
A Shqiptar under Russian proxy.
Eli Moore
Calls others newfags when : uses plebbit spacing and refers to Sup Forums as /pol. Lurk moar or gtfo
Kayden Butler
>whining about immigration >has Orban in charge
Trust me, you're in a far better position that literally every other yuro country
Orban is literally the only leader making sense atm
Kevin Cruz
Hungary has amazing history.
Angel Sanchez
>this level of projecting
Hudson Turner
huns/turks were archenemies of chinks and they were founding great empires while you were fucking each other in your little island an*lo
politicians do not care about the consequences , they only care about getting money and power
when will humanity wake up from the government and authority scam , i wonder...it seems that the majority loves being enslaved and staying dumber than a 5 year old
Christopher Johnson
NO CHRISTKEKS are allowed in holy Turan Empire. so fcuk off magyars.
Gavin Moore
The Great Migrations of the Serbs went to Croatia.Serbs settled Vojvodina during Medieval times.Panoian Slavs have nothing to do with Serbs
