A conversation with my liberal friend

We were sharing weird facts about weird animals, and at some point of the conversation, she mentions how animals are so much superior to humans, because humans are "destroying the planet". I reply that we can make pretty much any animal species go extinct and the only species that can kill us is ourselves, so there's no way they're superior.
She tells me that superiority can't be measured. I tell her both of us are superior to a sperm cell because we can do more stuff, we can live longer and survive easier. She tells me it's all subjective and to quit with my bullshit.
Why are leftists so obsessed with ridiculous contrarianism?

Here's a high-level redpill for you: leftists hate being human.

It's why a number of them are obsessed with AI, and generally soyboys will have cats and dogs, not kids. They legitimately prefer animals to human beings.

It's the logical conclusion of dehumanizing one's own tribe. The only companions left are animals.

>tfw you’ll never be a pampered kitty for a rich white wing nazi guy
these are bad feels

She literally said all of those things in the same conversation.

If humans end up exterminating themselves, then no they're not superior. However, such a judgement is beyond our scope because we can only look at the present and past.

>She tells me it's all subjective

Postmodernist. There is no point in conversing with people who do not believe in absolute truths.

I literally compared her reasoning with people who say "4 and a half minutes of silence is still music and as good as any other music because art is subjective" and she told me that she saw nothing wrong with that statement.

>Why are leftists so obsessed with ridiculous contrarianism?
They believe that being intelligent is important and desirable (correct)
They often believe that they are more intelligent than average (most people do) but also that their political opinions are "smart" ones as opposed to "dumb" conservatives who don't want change because they're not smart enough to handle it
They're actually not as smart as they think and they know it, so they take the perpetual contrariwise position because it is a lazy way to appear smart in the first place, because they believe that the mere act of considering the opposite opinion from the prevailing norm makes them smarter than Average Joe

TL:DR They're contrarian because they're painfully average and they know it so they take the opposite position of what they think is average even if they don't believe it to appear to stand out, because standing out is fitting in in the 21st century

Entertaining a fucking dumb cunt like that is your mistake

You should have just given her a look like "wow you are fucking retarded" and then ignored her unless she's basically all over your fucking dick

>She tells me it's all subjective and to quit with my bullshit
These people have convinced themselves that facts don't matter, you can't reason with them, the only way to deal with these people is with violence.

holy shit

true one hundred percent!
It happend many times (no jokes), that when scratching the surface of my left leaning friends, they tell me openly that they wish all human would just die because "human are evil"...
food for the thoughts...

She said animals are superior and then said you can't measure superiority?

You could have put her in her place immediately by saying that human exceptionalism is the cornerstone of religious doctrine and that viewing humans as non-animals or in any way "unnatural" in their actions plays into dogmatic and, ultimately, conservative lines of thought.

>humans are "destroying the planet"
whenever some leftist cuck says that mention that the planet didnt have any oxygen in its atmosphere before algae showed up. and that oxygen is a poisonous byproduct of their photosynthesis (yes, oxygen is poisonous, we are just extremely resistant to it, but it ends up killing you in time)
other organisms have fucked the planet way harder than we have, the rest of the life just adapts to the changes

Humans are the first life form on this planet with the ability to travel through space.

We are also the last life form that will ever evolve on this planet that has the ability to travel through space. The Earth has only 1.8 billion years left before the Sun's progress along the life cycle of a G-class star makes its energy output increase by 10%, an increase that will boil the last drop of liquid water away from our planet's poles. Not even water bears, famous for their ability to survive re-entry from the vacuum of space, will be able to survive that.

It took 3 billion years for a species of carbon based life that can propel itself through space to evolve from invertibrates. If we render ourselves extinct, the cockroaches will not have another 3 billion years to evolve this ability themselves.

Either humanity reaches the stars, or no life form on Earth will.

I knew a broad who used the line "feminists can't be racist" years before "only white people can be racist" was around.
She was remarkably ahead of her time in being a retarded lefty.

>conspiracy theories

But, she's right. Someone is allowed to think that those 4 minutes of silence are music, maybe music produced by natural sounds and static, but if the shoe fits...

But believing that the 9th symphony is not any better than John Cage's 4'33'' is a clear sign of mental illness.

Animals like primates and dolphins have more than enough time to evolve to our level(assuming they do)

Humans are shit though, if you don't support transhumanism you're a Luddite brainlet

>She tells me that superiority can't be measured
So she admitted she was wrong to begin with

>It took 3 billion years for a species of carbon based life that can propel itself through space to evolve from invertibrates
it took 3 billion years to evolve from the first cell, you fucking faggot, the cambrian explosion was 541 million years ago

This has nothing to do with political views, it is plain and simple a woman.

This has much more to do with how the left and right view humans. The left thinks humans are intrinsically good, and is always let down. (i.e. socialism/communism can work, corporations aren't """sharing""" the wealth, people are good so their degenerate actions can't be bad). The right sees humans for what they are, flawed. We acknowledge that people are often bad when given the opportunity. The right also doesn't see looking out for one's own as bad (i.e. I made this money don't tax the shit out of me, stop regulating everything).

These are generalizations of course. The hard right doesn't always believe in the free market, but a similar world view is shared.

Can't wait to have my brain hacked by some advertisors so they can spam my dreams with targeted advertisement.
I also want all of my internet history to be stocked in some CIA based AI that will predict every of my moves with a 99.99% accuracy.

Sure, can't wait to be able to connect to the web with my brainz.

What you are actually trying to say is that the 9th symphony took more technical knowledge to craft and needed to be performed, composed, memorized, etc. There is no such thing as "better" in the general sense, if you take all opinions and perspectives into account.

I don't form bonds with people but I do with animals. I am right wing as fuck

Go back to plebbit with your weak generalizations

>I don't form bonds with people but I do with animals. I am right wing as fuck
Says the delusional chucklefuck that will never have kids and will let adversary ideology win out.

I'm sorry Argentina, I couldn't save her.

A lot of the far-left are misanthropic idiots. They hate themselves and, all memes aside, they project this feeling onto everyone else.

It is pretty much the end result of trying to make everyone demoralized debt slaves. Some people rage against it. Most people just try to survive. And these people? Well they just break.

Now they are dangerous, like a rabid animal. Randomly attacking itself and its community and no master to curb its destructive behaviour.

Things will get much worse before they get better.

You argued with a woman and women are mentally the same as children. You will never win. You can only make them angry at you.

I know this, and yet I still make the same mistake. Arguing with women all the time all the while knowing perfectly well I can't achievery anything through it.

But to be fair, their outrage can be quite enjoyable at times.

I dunno dude, im pretty right wing, and i wanna be a cyborg and just have dogs.

Most liberals I know are scared of AI, muh terminator

Its the also the reason why so many of them support Communism.
A person who hates being human wants a system that takes all responsibility away from them, in their minds a system in which they can do whatever the fuck they want without having to work for it.
They have no ideals, they have no goals, nothing their heart burns for, nothing that makes their eyes light up, no sense for culture, romance, love, passion or anything of the sorts. Most of them literally only have mind-numbing hedonism and drugs, and the thought that if they did nothing else they would be happy.
They practically aren't even human, so its not exactly a surprise they hate it so much.

I think you have it backwards. it's the left that believes that humans are evil and must be ruled. they have to be told what is right and what is wrong. that's why they're so obsessed with calling the right evil.
meanwhile, the right wants fewer regulations on people, because they believe humans to be, generally, good. we don't need a nanny telling us how naughty we are, we can be trusted to do the right thing.

>liberal friend
You should choose you friends more carefully.

An asteroid (not the dinosaur one) destroyed 90% of all species at one point. Get a new woman if she wants to talk about destroying the planet.

He was saying leftists generally don't want more humans.
Why do you feel the need to defend yourself as if you were a leftist?

>humans are "destroying the planet"

And? Even simple bacteria have "destroyed" this planet before. Algae have too by producing oxygen when life still was not accustomed to this highly reactive chemical. So what? Life is not nice and it does not have a purpose ... it is runaway chemistry somehow working and evolving to survive in an adverse environment.

>telling me the same shit Ive just said

She's correct in one sense. That superiority is subjective. But clearly her subjective framework is fucking retarded.

Well to be fair 4’33 has musical notation, so they’re not wrong in saying that it’s music.

I’m not kidding by the way

Yeah, but that's just buying into the "ACSHUALLY" and "TECCNICALLY" memes. Real music is supposed to have sound at the very least, this is just experimental garbage composed by a pretentious old man looking to make a quick buck out of literally no effort.

Next you're gonna tell me that "Reasons to vote for Democrats" is a real book.

Well he explained that the point of the piece is for people to listen to the silence and realize how non-silent the silence acshually is and how many things you can actually hear.

Isn’t that guy Ben Shapiro’s butt buddy?

I too can give someone a blank peace of paper and say it's a poem about emptiness of human existence.

Wouldn't make it a poem though, it would still be a blank page.

You're coming at this way wrong. She got insecure when you showed her how retarded her framework where animals are superior to humans is so she changed tack and went full "god is dead". You can't respond to that by saying "nuh uh". You have to ridicule existentialists and provide a wholesome undeniably sensible framework. Where you can say "sure 4'33" is music but it's fucking valueless garbage".

Well, that's just dumb, because you would not really be listening to the music itself. Ironically, not even deaf people would enjoy that, because they wouldn't even be able to listen to the background noise.

I get what you mean, but even then she would just go "well that's just your opinion" with a dumb smug grin on her face. The problem is that the argument is so obviously ridiculous and her points so purposely stupid that they somehow enter a "sub-zero" realm where you have to change your debate style completely because they would just negate it with "nothing is real"

Can't agree - left thinking humans are good is a meme, and bullshit they tell themselves to justify their destructive policies.

Really, only Objectivists and some libertarians truly believe that humans are good in so far as they fulfill their potential.

You know what's funny? In order to be a leftist you must embrace mental gymnastics, slippery slope and self-delusion.

The average leftist will call you a science-denying relgious gun nut corporate-worshipper who hates the Earth but at the same time they'll cry to heaven, mutter the name Lord under their breath or pray to Mother Nature to punish evil right-wingers and spare them of the wraith of hurricanes, then demand that you comply with their ideals via threat of violence by proxy (government) and run to Apple and Amazon to buy all their products while decrying GMOs all the while living it up in the dirtiest and least eco-friendly places on Earth.

The way to argue with nihilists and relativists is not to concede their point, but to keep arguing for concret values and meanings. It's the "your enemies win if you disagree with them" nonsense.

Well, can't stress it enough if other people do still not get it.

>tells something is superior
>says superiority can't be measured
Fucking leftists.

She probably wants your cock user. Some women think arguing makes them "more of a challenge;" basically, she thinks she's crafting a shit-test.

She has no idea how evil what she's saying is. Even if she did, she'd probably expect you to be ",man enough" to fix her.

Might explain why a lot of them are LGBT furries.

Jordan Peterson fills in the blanks if you don't mind a religious explanation.

The left is Cain. They hate goodness and life because of what they can't have/achieve.

Too much media consumption of Disney and Hayao Miyazaki films.

It is literally shameful how in general women/girls have literally no idea what in the world they are talking about.
I am not even joking by saying they literally get their "news" and "food for thought" from vloggers, who at the same time discuss make-up.

A girl who I've been dating for two years now has repeatedly admitted that both she and her girlfriends do nothing else then repeat what other like-minded friends say and simply go with the vlogger/fb masses. IMAGINE forming your opinion based on vlogger women!

Her view has entirely changed because of me. She now thinks for herself, is critical of her environment and can actually discuss stuff on a normal level. It feels like I am training a fucking dog.

Jesus fucking christ.

this is the stupidest fucking shit. They don't hate being human they just hate themselves there race. If you apply that same logic to the Japanese do the Japanese hate themselves like leftist? Fuck no.

Look at the rationalwiki article for "going galt." Especially the part about survivalists.
You can almost taste the contempt leftwingers and "rationalists" have for people who choose to check out of society. They HATE people who want to be left alone and do their own thing, because isolationists "think the wrong thoughts" and aren't interested in global progressiveness and communism and muh government services.
Libertarians eventually evolve into fascists when they realize the hive of city-dwelling bugpeople does not TOLERATE people being left alone minding their own business. If lefties actually knew how many people lived in the middle of "nowhere" they'd be demanding that the government confiscate remote, private land for proletariat farming co-ops and subsidized housing for niggers.
Uncle Ted was exactly right about leftists.

>training a fucking dog
That's where you're wrong kiddo.

A dog would be at least loyal when it grows up.

I have children and a wife retard.

It's not even funny how correct you are

Well, seeing as most right-wingers are responsible people, their cats mostly get "the snip" or neutered, provided that they don't have the facilities to take care of kittens (which is most).

But yeah, a well-cared-for cat, lives the high life. No expectations besides being a fluffy shit which is up for cuddles at times. Free food and housing. A leftifsts dream, really.

>literally
You sound like one of those millenial bimbos you whine about. Work on that user, it makes you look retarded.

Yes, because I use the word literally, that makes me a millennial bimbo. I mean...ffs user. Really? That is your addition to this thread? Shameful

youve read my my mind, most people actually want to live the lives of robots not humans, and they dont ever realise it

go ride a bicycle faggot

it seemed to be an implication that anyone into AI is a soyboi

Nah just telling you not to pick up bad habits by putting the same filler word in 2 short senteces 3 times. As I said people who use these seem scatterbrained and ineloquent, it also gets really annoying if you do it in real life and you have lengthy conversations with somebody.

Abusing "literally" is literally one of the longest standing Sup Forums memes.

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Great comeback, really shows off your intelligence their.

Go ruin an economy migrant.

>with my liberal friend

literally kys

>Good Dogo
>Good Woman

There's LITERALLY nothing else you need.

memes are real

Stfu kike. Jordan Peterson is controlled opposition

>"hey jordan what do you think of jews"
>jordan "actually most of my friends are jews"

Literal fail.

I'm definitely picking up a Czech gal after I get out of professional school though.

Want to sell me your sister?

Alright, fair enough.

Don't know. This is my first day on pol.

>Muh Jews
I don't have time for you losers.

>we can make pretty much any animal species go extinct and the only species that can kill us is ourselves

not so fast, mammal scum

She's currently a dyke and 'finding herself', do you really want her?

Nearly all liberals are absolutely disconnected with reality. The often have no actual arguments, and argue for the sake of arguing, because they believe if they appeal to emotion enough, the other person will cave so they don’t sound like a monster to all the other idiots in the room. They’re a waste of brain cells, they’ll never learn until it backfires on them or the thing/people they’re protecting betrays them

Relax toothpaste, I was backing you up vs. a useless pedant.

Oh boy, Bohemian or Moravian?

Thx bruv. I am relaxed, it's actually my first time on pol though.

Lurk moar is both a meme, insult, and advice; Look into it more

Sorry to hear that Czech bro; I thought you all were more Eastern Europe-tier in being immune to that sort of garbage.

>"Finding herself"
Keep Hammering her. Gay is a bullshit meme. No group in history committed themselves to fucking the same sex EXCLUSIVELY.

I refuse to believe Putin said this

Morava

I AM CONFUSED I DRANK TWO BOTTLES OF WINE!

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