A diplomatic spat has developed between Berlin and Warsaw after the German Defense Minister said that her country should support the “democratic resistance of the young generation” in Poland.
>This scandalous remark from Germany’s top military official immediately led to a strong rebuke from all levels of the Polish government, which rightly interpreted her statement as an implied threat to aid the Soros-linked Color Revolutionaries in their quest to carry out a regime change in the Central European country.
>As an overly simplified backgrounder, the ruling Law & Justice conservative party has been working to cleanse Poland’s permanent bureaucracy, or “deep state”, of the holdovers that their Civil Platform liberal predecessors had hurriedly stacked into government in a last-ditch attempt to derail their opponents’ legislative agenda until the next election. This is very similar to what the Democrats have been doing against Trump, but it’s just that PiS, which is the Polish abbreviation that the Law & Justice party is popularly known by, has been comparatively more successful than their allied American counterpart, hence why there’s been a proportionate increase in foreign support to the Color Revolution movement in response.
>Germany hates PiS because party leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski’s ideology of “EuroRealism” contrasts with Merkel’s “EuroLiberalism” in every way, from dealing with the migrant crisis to the future organization of the EU as a whole.
>PiS is even being sued by Brussels because of its refusal to accept the forcible relocation of even a single Muslim migrant, and its ambitious “Three Seas Initiative” aims to consolidate a new power bloc in Central and Eastern Europe in order to oppose Germany’s post-Brexit centralization initiative for the EU in favor of a more hands-off and reformed approach that respects the national sovereignty of the bloc’s members.
>It’s long been suspected that Berlin was backing the anti-government movement in Poland, and the country’s media has reported on this for nearly two years already, but the German Defense Minister’s sloppy statement on TV seemed to present the strongest confirmation yet that this is indeed truly the case.
>This diplomatic spat will probably soon die down, but the damage that it wrought to bilateral relations won’t likely go away so long as PiS continues to govern Poland, which might be for the foreseeable future seeing as how they secured the country’s largest-ever post-communist electoral victory in 2015. Warsaw is now more motivated than ever before to continue strengthening its relations with its “Three Seas” partners, particularly Hungary but potentially even Austria under the coming premiership of Sebastian Kurz. In addition, PiS stands validated in the eyes of the Polish people for having apparently been right all along about German interference in their country’s domestic political affairs, which will embolden its supporters and might even convince some of its less-radical detractors to reconsider their positions.
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Christopher Morgan
>This controversial episode is also very curious because it came at the same time that Poland ended its precautionary Flexible Credit Line with the IMF and Reuters launched an infowar attack against the country by provocatively suggesting that Poland’s job boom was inadvertently stoking inflation, which makes one wonder whether the Defense Minister’s veiled threat was timed as a “dog whistle” to coincide with a new asymmetrical regime change offensive against Warsaw.
>Meanwhile, 60,000 fascists and white supremacists marched in a demonstration in Warsaw Saturday, as Poles celebrated their country's Independence Day. Protesters marched under far-right banners, with one reading "White Europe of brotherly nations." Many carried the national white-and-red flag as others set off flares and firecrackers, filling the air with red smoke.
>State broadcaster TVP, which reflects the conservative government's line, called the demonstration a "great march of patriots," and in its broadcasts described the event as one that drew mostly regular Poles expressing their love of Poland, not extremists. "It was a beautiful sight," Interior Minister Mariusz Blaszczak said. "We are proud that so many Poles have decided to take part in a celebration connected to the Independence Day holiday."
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Carson Long
I need to know: How reliable are zerohedge? Because I've so far heard nothing of this.
Ian Jackson
if you watch cnn you'll be very impressed, zerohedge actually names sources because their sources exist
Jason Morris
Oh, come on. This has been going for some time now. Germon/soros sponsored opposition (KOD), "democracy is under attack in Poland" narrative, recent news that germon antifa is going to chimp out in a few days in Poland, threats of sanctions/expulsion from eu... Germony and kikes are afraid of independent Poland.
Christian Robinson
Germoney cant let this go. They just cant. They always despised poles and always will.
Mason Martinez
The germans don't have guns this time, and the germans turned into a bunch of pussies. NOthing to worry about
Joseph Flores
If the US gets a non-white majority, won't that mean that they'll just start bombing countries like Hungary and Poland for being "racist"?
Ryder Stewart
>germoney is afraid of poorland hahaha. no.
Jaxon Baker
Understood. It's just so mind-boggling to see this stuff play out like this and be completely helpless to do shit about it. Part of me wants to just pretend I've gone crazy and am hallucinating.
I meant specifically this newest story, being that I'd have expected major diplomatic rub-ups to at least make some sort of headline here. Sorry if that part of it was unclear.
Henry Cook
where are the jews in the german government? for reference the early soviet government was 85% jewish. are you just saying things?
Parker Lopez
Wow, this is so surprising, it's not like western leftists and liberals think the same in secret and behind closed doors
Jaxson Scott
I hate those people, but I like the fact that they are going after Poland.
Ayden Davis
>completely helpless
this a good sign... soon your genetic proclivities will kick in.
You're the kraut, the most violent and destructive beast ever unleashed upon the earth.
Isaac Allen
so Germany is just one big female-ruled c uck shed at this point
Brandon Green
>Supporting Revolutionary groups in a neighbouring country looking to overthrow the government in favor of a puppet regime taking orders from the country that supported the group whilst openly admitting to this This is an act of war, is it not? May I reminder Poland and Germany never signed an official cease fire after WW2.
Oliver Gonzalez
The funny thing is, Germany is ruled by the "conservative" party.
Carson Ross
>his country has a female defence minister
Austin Sanders
Let's be honest: You can cry as much as you want but tikki-larping neonazi autismo reenactment and happily handing executive, legislative and judicial powers to one party in a moment of wodka-induced vaginal spergings is very unpolish and well..undemocratic.
Evan Foster
Germoney is afraid of Germany.
Christopher Walker
It's really more of a free market liberal / christcuck party. Similar to the republicans before Trump, but even more cucked.
Zachary Cook
Calm down augustyn, you don't want us to put you in place. Be happy about your ungrateful leeching of the EU and look forward to become congo-tier before getting steamrolled by russia with nobody of us shedding a tear. You fell for their divide / conquer, you pay the price, Augustyn.
Ryder Perez
Top nigger
Nathan Cruz
Cucks and niggers cant fly fighter jets or navigate carriers.
Jackson Scott
Merkel is really not content with just fucking over her own people. She wants all of Europe fucked. Is she the biggest political villain of the 21st century so far?
Leo Sullivan
>Wow, is Merkel's new NATO Forces ready yet?
Ryan Carter
poland should attack this nigger nation and kill these kikes
Jordan Myers
>his country has a shitskin defence minister
Kayden Baker
Did germany officially existafter the war? In most ceasefires neither side got 100% warscore. The allies scored 100% war score on germany
Carter Mitchell
Sage kys im so ashamed of you
Logan Barnes
As retarded as she is, the real villains are weak-minded, spineless faggots like you who lose their shit and allow terrorist to trigger them into that exact state of paranoia you are in. People like you never changed anything, all they do is burn stuff down to the ground and wonder why nothing great magically emerges out of the ashes. You will be roped when it's about time.
Liam Reed
You're just a desperate shill. Germans don't have free speech.
Jacob Scott
>no. germ-any is only afraid of facts
Charles Watson
Crawl back to your shithole, you know nothing about who plays you and how you get played that easily.
Ryan Evans
Sihks are a warrior caste and he has an incredibly impressive list of military service.
Compare this to a fucking German feminist in charge of your defence lmao
Luis Moore
That HAS to be fake. I refuse to believe they are that clueless.
Isaac Perry
We're going to have to kill Germans again aren't we
Nathaniel Perez
They're generally wrong all the time on economic stuff, but disaffected retards find them edgy.
Post 2008 has not been kind to doom and gloomer bears.
Jaxson Powell
>rationality / efficiency You know nothing about real germany, young spineless kevin.
Leo Parker
Good thing the german defense minister is a meme
Blake Ramirez
Tell us the facts then. I won't ever allow terrorists to make me a fearful, paranoid homo like you.
Ryan Cook
it exists but all the government positions are empty
that said its been made accountable for reparations to people harmed by the nazis actions so you could claim it should be considered the same
Hunter Collins
>germon antifa is going to chimp out in a few days in Poland Now THAT would be fucking great
Henry Turner
>how to speak without saying anything thanks for this lesson
Justin Johnson
>zero hedge Kek >German govt DOUBLE KEK We are going for new elections because the ((((((((((((((((((((((((GREENBERGs))))))))))))))))))))))) don't want cap on peacebol refugeez
Alexander Bell
The BRiD is not real germany.
Carter Gray
Always a nazi
what's wrong with german people?
Matthew Gray
Learn to read between the lines, child.
Dominic Scott
Correct, spineless cowards like you aren' either.
Jose Bailey
Mongrel please, you aren't paying us jack shit. Only ever learning to pillage every last valuable scrap of resources from our land. Once we kick down the door of your establishment, the whole house of cards will come crumbling down. You do not have the ability to put anyone in """their""" place, other than yourself. You are (((their))) and America's bitch as long as you reject us. The only purpose of the megalliance is to keep the Russians out and the Germans down. Most of the world won't shed a year once the sad story ends and Germany vanishes out of existence just like Poland did for 123 years. The difference between us and you, is that everyone still hates you. >Augustyn what in God's cock is this supposed to be
Evan Foster
YES! Oh, I'm gonna build me the biggest blood vat, twenty siix feet tall.
Mason Edwards
>russia will help us beat you >we will use the new eu force to attack another eu member
Both options are equally as absurd
Adam Jenkins
>Correct Then what's the problem?
Cameron Adams
>60K fascists and white supremacists marched Polands independence day march they have done every year is now a nuremberg rally?
The media are fucking evil.
Jacob Fisher
The fuck are you on about you retard? How have I even mentioned Terrorism? Everyone here knows the danger of migration is ethnic conflict/displacement, crime rate, Islamization etc. not terrorism. That you are calling others coward faggots based on a few lines reeks like projektion. You really lust after arab cock, is that the problem here?
Jayden Butler
Trump would defend Poland over Germany. Poland is safe. Carry on as you were.
Carter Reyes
We didn't reject you. We let your people in 20 years ago when your country was namibia-tier and nobody had work over there, we handed everything on a silver platter, we allowed you to make money over here and transfer it to your families accumulating wealth beside leeching for EU subventions. You know what your families did? They happily accepted all those Hartz4 gibs but never bothered to learn a single word german. Over in the UK it's the same. You are caricatures, you are the cliché jews of the 21st century without even knowing. Keep getting triggered by the truth.
Aiden Reed
Learn about consecutive logics, you disgustingly retarded fuck.
Lucas Thompson
Trump doesn't give a shit and Poland will never be safe as long as they occupy the eastern part of our country.
William Jones
'zerohedge' is (mostly) a news aggregator, they provide the sauce of their articles, you need to check that direct. Which as in this case its orientnews.org, Russians not exactly sympathetic to Mama Merkel at the best of times, best take the whole piece with a pinch of salt and a bottle of vodka.
zerohedge have a poor historical reputation for running BS, have been improving greatly of late tho, and they run stuff no-one else will touch. Which naturally means (by default) some noise in the signal, and there are valid reasons no-one else would touch this. Basically, file under BS, but maybe good for a discussion point. IF orientnews.org ran something positive over Merkel, however, THEN, you should be worried, very worried indeed.
Luis Collins
I suppose it is better to go out with a bang than with a whimper. And with the level of mass-redpillings that have been going on I have half a feeling that not all too many people would be mad at us for wrecking "Europe" in this circumstance. Or (((Europe))), as it were. But somehow I am still hesitant.
This notion gives me heart though. Beautifully said.
Daniel Davis
We gotcha Senpai
Bentley Butler
>defense minister >her how cucked are you faggots?
Carson Campbell
You are 100 years too late for an ethnic state. Acknowledge real world 2.0 and present viable solutions instead of larping. Because of right-wing parties like CSU we don't even have a working immigration law including a centralized register probably even a genetic database. Why? They didn't want to acknowledge that germany is an 'immigration country' at all, all while uncontrolled immigration happened. You are naive and probably too young to understand.
Sebastian Edwards
I guess this is illegal, breaching european and international law It's time to invade.
Carter Bailey
This is so sad. We all know how it is going to end.
Parker Cook
I'll keep this in mind. Thank you.
Hudson Jackson
Trump and his half-jewish family sure aren't happy about larping mongrels calling for the next holocaust.
Charles Rogers
liberal/conservative is a meaningless distinction, its like you get to discuss only the color of your car and not the make or model
Alexander Green
The solution couldn't be more simple. They all have to go back.
Dylan Collins
It is true that terrorism is overhyped, we need to focus on rising crime rates, and not eve rape which is also overhyped but on violent crime in general.
Landon Howard
Shut up faggot or we'll finish the job next time.
Carson Foster
Of course. Same as their larping. You know how people laughed at me when I said Putin and Erdogan are forming a new strategical axis one year ago? Now watch the news and connect the dots.
Nicholas Myers
AMEN
Adrian Miller
Arguably yes, but keep in mind this is a woman speaking, and a German at that. Some Swedish official said some retarded stuff as well. Just keep the eye on the ball. Neither Sweden nor Germany is a threat to you, and will be third world countries before long.
Isaiah Brooks
That's what nazis say since the first (now integrated) immigration wave hitting germany in the 60s. Back then it was about 'muh taking jobs', you cannot even come up with that argument anymore. It's won't happen, but keep dreaming instead of finding real-world solutions, little Kevin, your have a life full of disappointment ahead of you.
Isaac Gomez
afd when?
Leo Cox
No that would be silence of the lambs.
William Nguyen
Last thing on Trumps mind is what your liberal/communist fake news thinks or says.
Parker Kelly
>we wuz bomber harris >straya Go to bed, Bruce. You're drunk.
Benjamin Jackson
STFU u blind kraut. Your arrogance is rediculous. Terrorism is a non factor, the problem is demographic warfare and you have sucked to much off merkels saggy tit. German industry would be shit if it didn't have the big home market and a control of EU policy that only seeks to help German industry. If we had more people in sweden, we would stomp you like in 1631.
Brody Gomez
100 years to late for an ethnic state. What a fucking idiot you are. There are many ethnic homogenous nation states that are very successful. Germany was fine before the first wave of Turks came. So was Austria. "Viable solutions" deportations of illegals is not viable? Closing borders is not viable? I guess nothing is "viable" if it would keep Germany german, huh? I wonder how other countries do manage things you don't appearantly there are no viable options to national suicide.
Luke Lewis
I am just helping you to connect the dots. You are naive, little estonian boy. If there was ever a more pro-israel shill in government of the US let me know.
Parker Lewis
>We might not win, so we should just give up Faggots like you are the reason we're in this mess to begin with. You deserve to get raped by a pack of Niggers.
Brayden Long
Germans are mindless sheep with a superiority complex.
Kevin Powell
I know this might surprise you but unlike your pathetic "nation", best known for producing Hitler and scat porn, my people actually have an imperial legacy.
Ethan Moore
Aww did I trigger you, Sören? You are correct to a certain degree: Germany acts hegemonial but doesn't want to openly proclaim that role. The solution: A fiscal union and united states of europe the starship troopers way. You aren't exactly pushing for that in trying to undermine this union instead of changing it for the better. The moment all our countries don't act as a bloc no more is the moment we get splintered, divided and glassed, dumbo.
Adam Thomas
Sure Dustin sure. Tell me about that modern state that deported all of it non-ethnic inhabitants successfully.
Brandon Turner
>my people "Your people" dumped you on a desert island to die because you were criminals, m8.
Eli Turner
I hope those terrorists you ain't afraid off will ram your brave ass with the truck of peace and you will become literally open minded, with your brain splashed on the pavement.
Of course, racism will be to blame. And trucks.
Btw, how does it feel to be a minority in your own country, Jerry?
Also - how does it feel to lose two world wars? And having monuments of those who annihilated your army, and raped the shit out your women, in your capital city Istanbul ... Sorry, Berlinbul.
Ian Robinson
Your people have a legacy of being criminals. You live in a former prison colony.
Isaiah Foster
You know,third time is the charm. Im looking forward for Bomber Harris finishing the job. Germany proves again,that its in every civilizations best interest to erase it from the globe,because they learned nothing since they destroyed the Roman Empire.
Chase Ramirez
well if germany goes ethnic nationalist now it will lose any and all influence on the world. it would have worked with nazis because they would have taken massive colonies in slavic lands and have the rest of europe and the mideast as satelites probably influencing other european colonies heavily as well. germany would just stagnate or get invaded if they did that right now, even if it were politically possible
Camden Wright
If germans hate europe so much, why not move? Why declare war on your neighbors again? AGAIN!!!!
Seriously, wtf?
Leo Cook
Good luck Poland. Can you help uncuck Germany? Together with Austria Hungary we could built a nice middle european future.
Blake Wright
No, the solution is to bolster rule of law instead of undermining it like a fucking reichsbürger. You are all children on a larping safari, but great so see you all getting triggered by simple arguments.
Christian Moore
I'm surprised german media did not report this. It has been a source of a minor scandal here in Poland and even the German ambasador made a statement.
Jacob Russell
Funny enough, Sweden has the best opportunity to go full ethnic nationalist because they can just continue to sell resources.
Aiden Kelly
>that awkward moment the uebermensch crawls into fetal position This is the price we have to pay for A) making us slave to the us lighting up the ME B) living in a free society The very idea of terror is that you cannot be safe, what is so difficult about it? You all act according to these subhumans' plans by bitching out.