Should the US adopt mandatory military service?

Would you support mandatory military service for all Americans?

There are some complications and we would need to change things, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense to me. We could solve a lot of this nation's immediate problems by enlisting all of our able-bodied men and women around the time of their final year of high school. Maybe give all young people the option to do military, Peace Corps, or enter another form of civil service? 2 years, max. The only ways out would be having children or being disabled, but it would be an attractive enough option that most people would not turn it down. We could even spin the GI Bill so that it now offers free public college education directly following those 2 years of service, but limit what else it could provide to be fair.

Think about it. It would discipline our populace, solve some of our health issues, and we could put these young adults to work fixing our infrastructure, cleaning up our parks, going into cities and working on community planning...

Sucks that most of the country would be whole heartedly against it

somebody has to go into the private sector to prop up the government non producers

No. We need fewer social programs, not more. Conscript militaries are universally garbage, and America has a large enough population that it doesn't require it.

I don't think it would be a good idea, simply because I don't think we as Americans would allow it. On top of that, our military is already bloated as it is, and adding more fluff to it won't do us any good.

Then what about forced civil service? No military service, but you need to spend time going into cities to work with urban youth, going to a national park to build benches, working on power grids out in Arizona, etc.

>Forcing 300,000,000 people to fight for Israel

No thanks

You can't force me to work. What is the punishment for not doing so? Jail time? Then we over crowd our already over crowded prison systems. Are you going to impose a fine? If I don't pay that fine, then what? More fines? Incarceration? That's what I mean, it's not feasible to force us into something like that, because we wouldn't allow it.

What kind of fairy tale world are you living in? We need private sector jobs, not taxpayer funded scams

Fuck off, we're full. You idiots are already pushing too many poofters and minorities into our ranks as it is.

We did in nam and all the men conscripted turned into smack heads who were homeless when they went home.
Save military for men who WANT to join.
Forcing someone to suck dick doesnt make them want to do a good job.

That might be due to the fact that any idiot with a G.E.D can join the military.

Don't bother, mate.
I think conscription is great but you're better of without it.
It would also creat a lot of "I WUZ SOLDIER N SHIEET!" people who just spent 6 months in the infirmary.

They can’t make officer though

It’s called the draft retard. We don’t need that many soldiers when the cost of supplying the troops will waste our military budget and make it impossible to build any new weapons or vehicles.

>We could solve a lot of this nation's immediate problems by enlisting all of our able-bodied men and women around the time of their final year of high school.
Lets give horny emotional teenager with zero life experiences who were getting drunk/high at school and fucking around machine guns and military training nothing could go wrong.
Name the military that forced young kids in combat and tell me how that works.

For whites only yes

I don't know friend, I've seen some officers who might have actually been dumb enough to fail their G.E.D.

America did in both world wars. That worked out pretty well imo.

We're not as open as we used to be. Alot of the branches are forcing out the rejects because our ranks are decreasing.

Don’t they have to graduate academy or have a degree though

Many nations both need and should have it. It would teach discipline, and provide a nation which is fitter, more productive and overall better.

>It would also creat a lot of "I WUZ SOLDIER N SHIEET!" people who just spent 6 months in the infirmary.
Not to mention that russian army dudes who willingly joined fucking bullied all the fags who were conscripted.
Male on male rape is kinda common in the military and you want more literal whos to join and have access to guns and the training to use them?
No, I think the military should be reserved for people in a physically and mentally well state.

>Would you support mandatory military service for all Americans?

NO!

There's nothing worse than working with shitters who don't want to be there.

Yes. That user is just a bitter grunt.

No. I refuse to die for 56% memes. I am planning on emigrating anyways to escape you fucking degenerates. Why would I die in a globalist jew war?

Inb4 YOU'RE JUST GONNA RUN TO ANOTHER BROWN COUNTRY

Lol this

Conscription is what made the American military lose all discipline and chain of command during Vietnam. Vietnam pretth mich singlehandedly led to the formation of our all volunteer military. No, we should not force military service on our citizens. We do well enough without it.

No
Just cuz thats like what leftists do and small shit countries like Switzerland an Israel do cuz they have to.

I do see the positives of it but ultimately it goes againt people's freedom that western society values so much.

I think, for the sake of equality, there needs to be affirmative action, ensuring that 50% of military intakes are female, and that 50% of frontline soldiers are female.

The best generation. What was their secret?

My grandfather said different.
Many places used to be all white and now are crack dealing trap town.
Tell me how fighting a world war helped us at all?
Just gave jews and jew bankers more reach.
We did we made rapist, murders and junkies.
No, leave the military for people who want to serve their country.
Imagine all that dead weight forcing someone to be in the military.
Thats the guy you need to rely on in a life or death situation and he was FORCED to be there.
Sounds like a lot of men are going be leaving when S hits the F.

Any retard with a high school diploma actually, in the case of the marines and maybe the air force?

I got PDQ'd by Navy for psoriasis though.

this and again this

nah guns are dangerous

>op is such a fucking faggot if he had any brains he could have answered his own question using a war not even a 100 years old.

Kill yourself first

>shitskins with guns
bad
>shitskin infrastructure
worse

Traitor

I wouldn't mind if kids could sign up for it, like ROTC. Use senior year to prep for military service. Not manditory. Do we really want to train the crips and bloods? Imagine how many they would kill if they knew how to use the guns they have.

Lol I’m sure that would work out great

Only viable in times of major wars, when you have to put in place politics of a general economic war effort.
Because conscripts are allways poorly trained and not much use besides being cannon fodder.
And: Where should these warm bodies come from in modern day single child families?
Are you going to send your only child to die for some shitskins?

Hell yeah. Good thing we have all those nortenos and ms13 military training.
You missed the point. I simply said they were dumb, not that they didn't have it.
>implying I was dumb enough to join the military
>implying I don't have a degree
I would have a screen shot, but I can't access my university webpage on my phone (school politics). Best I've got though.
Most of them were white.

Butt hurt and insane double points

Yeah, that's JROTC, it's already a thing

Sounds like bullshit

Nice, what is your degree in? Womens Studies? Associates in Liberal Arts?

That already exists, but isn't very popular.

I'd agree that Vietnam ruined the military in the eyes of most Americans, and I knew that when I postulated by topic. I just wanted to hear what everyone had to say. The reality is most Americans would be very against it.

I was in jrotc. Didn’t go into military but i enjoyed the aerospace training and paintball fights

Correlation and causation, burger. You need a high trust society for this to work, and not the other way around. Just look at Russia as an example: low morale, crime, and dedovschina are common there. You don't want that.

What does?
Criminal Justice with an emphasis in forensic science and a minor in French. I guess it's close since Criminal Justice is technically a social science, but I had to take enough chemistry and physics classes to make it real world applicable.

>The reality is most Americans would be very against it.
Why would they be for it anyway?
Id love to join the military but I dont want to make shit money for 4 years.
Nor do I like people but thats me.

Russia is in a downward spiral. They cannot statistically recover at this point. That’s what mattis says anyway

How would you pay for all of the wages/healthcare and college tuition costs this would create?

This would create Bernie tier financial outlay by stealth.

I guess you could play the FDR card and claim it's a mechanism for solving unemployment.

They don't need it as America is so big.

Everything you say

No way, conscript troops are universally awful.

That's gotta be bait.

Whats the fucking point in foot soilders when a fucking drone can kill people a mile away?
Why even start a war when you could shut down borders and starve them out?
Dark age military tactics.

What about all the guys who join to get out of a criminal charge? It’s pretty big in GA if the crime isn’t too heinous

Again, ignore picture quality. And the fact that it's sideways. I can't be assed to edit these outside of snapchat.

there's mandatory military service in my country.
poor people (not even high school education) get send to a military post for a year and middle and upper classes have military training over the weekends for a year as well on senior year.
i hated it, but it gives you some character.
that might curve your soyboy epidemic.

>letting would-be criminals into the military
What could possibly go wrong?

You forgot to put on your commie flag, little faggot.

Do you want hordes of nigger fully trained to the use of firearms and how to control a city, attack buildings and such?

Mandatory military service is only meant in case when you country has military controlled borders in Socialism to ensure native ownership and prevents migration. Having native military service when you go to wars for private profits of billionaire Zion isn't nationalism. American private army you currently have employs soldiers because soldiers want some of the war profit, not because they want to protect USA from migrants and ensure native ownership. American military are mercenaries who larp as nationalists, but haven't cleaned or secured any soil in USA from migrants or migrant ownership.

A young guy with a dui isn’t exactly a life time criminal though

go tell that to hezbollah or the yemeni rebels.
drones aren't magical.

lmao our currency wouldn't be worth anything without vast military ops you fucking lolberg

No but i would rather black guys be trained in maintenance and operating heavy equipment and respecting the flag than the alternative

Good point. Besides the military though, government workers have a bad rep

>mandatory service in wars for Israel
No.

the problem is that nigger and spics dont concider themselve american they think USA is their enemy cause systemic racist n shieet.

they would just take the warfare teaching and use it against your nation instead of becoming real americans

Who needs magic when you have science?
All im saying is drones are better than foot soldiers if you want less dead men on your side.

>What is the punishment for not doing so?

Death

yes. also send more troops over.

Sorry comrade, take your communism elsewhere.

You’re a little out of touch my dude

This; compulsory military service doesn't raise the standard of discipline for the average citizen so much as it lowers the standard of discipline for the active-duty soldier in order to accommodate the egalitarian ideal that is being forced onto them.

>muh freedom
>forced to join military

Just require voluntary military service for anyone that wants to vote.

Virtually all problems solved.

Why doesn't the US have militias defend the country like the founding fathers wanted?

Define Americans

Those born on American soil/ territories. You know, exactly how it is already defined.

Conscripts make shitty soldiers. Sending people to die against their will does that to people.

Yes, give niggers access to even more guns and have everyone not a nigger live with them day in and day out. I can already envision the daily cat. 5 chimp-out.

It's called taking responsibility faggot, freedom costs a buck o five

Fuck off with the collectivism.

We have mandatory military service, it doesnt work like that.

Service = citizenship or you’re doing it wrong

it's called mind your own god damned business, collectivist faggot.

No. That's how end up with brain-dead faggots that receive military training and then join antifa. US military is conservative precisely because it's voluntary. Patriots join and fight; commie faggots talk shit on twitter and menstruate.

It’s a waste of resources.
The last thing we need is men with a longer delay of living their adult life. I didn’t start working until I was 24. That’s 19 years of school. I don’t want even more

militias can't bomb third world poo burners from thousands of miles away

I don't recognize the children of third world goblins who came here without my permission as citizens. Just like I didn't recognize niggerboi as president.

what if there's another Arab–Israeli war
and US bring back draft lottery to send you to fight for Israel? what will you do?

US has so many people that it isn't needed, plenty of people are willing to sign up.

That's fine, because you're not the authority on who is American. That's already defined, as stated above.

no

It's a dangerous game forcing disjoint groups to fight for something they don't believe in.

yes
it'd solve the nu-male problem