Was anime a mistake?
Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv
So all this time in this conversation Marai is actually talking to Beato and not Hannibal so whatever Hannibal is saying its actually Beato
and so are his responses. for example when he sighs sadly and so on. and she is even nice to her when she says that she is still beautiful.
she doesn't have to act here since Marai is hallucinating and about to be executed and she is alone with her until that STASI officer enters.
【ハンニバル】「……よく頑張ってくれた。ずっと君のことが心配だったんだ」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「……you did your best. I was worried about you」
【マライ】「少佐…。少……佐………」
【Marai】「Major…Ma…jor…」
【ハンニバル】「……」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「sad sigh………」
【マライ】「私は……任務を果たしました……」
【Marai】「I…fulfilled my mission……」
【マライ】「最後まで……あなたの……あなたを………」
【Marai】「Until the very end……You……You……」
【ハンニバル】「安心しなさい。もうすべて終わった」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「Put your mind at ease. Its over now」
【ハンニバル】「もうここには怖い人はいない。皆、私が追い払ったよ」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「There aren't any scary people around anymre. I drove them away.」
【マライ】「えぇ……」
【Marai】「Yeah.……」
【ハンニバル】「間に合って良かったよ、マライ……」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「It's good that I made it in time, Marai.」
【マライ】「……私の顔、変になっていないでしょうか。いっぱい叩かれて……。あなたに見せたくないのに……」
【Malai】「……My face, is it not wierd? Fully beaten……. I didn't want for you too see……」
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【ハンニバル】「大丈夫だ。君は綺麗だ」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「That's alright. You're still beautiful」
【マライ】「…良かった」
【Marai】「…I'm glad」
【ハンニバル】「…私が君に預けていたものは、それで全部だったね?」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「That which i entrusted with you, was that all?」
【マライ】「…はい、少佐」
【Marai】「…Yes.Major」
【マライ】「それで…全部です……」
【Marai】「So…This is all.」
【ハンニバル】「もう眠りなさい……」
【Marai】「Go to sleep already...」
【マライ】「少佐……。ずっと一緒です……」
【Marai】「Major...Together forever...」
【ハンニバル】「…………」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「sad sigh………」
Other STASI enters.
【STASI Officer】「Have you finished?」
【国家保安省職員】「マライ、マライ、マライ……実に単純な答えでしたね」
【STASI Officer】「Marai, marai, marai……It was a really simple answer」
【国家保安省職員】「私を自分の男だと勘違いして自白するとは、哀れな末路ですな」
【STASI Officer】「She thought she was talking to her man……what a pathetic end」
【ベアトリクス】「…………」
【Beatrix】「grrr…」
【ベアトリクス】「……ご苦労様」
【Beatrix】「……Thank you for your hard work.」
【ベアトリクス】「片付けろ」
【Beatrix】「Deal with it.」
【国家保安省職員】「――は」
【STASI Officer】「yes」
【ベアトリクス】「――シュミット長官、マライ・ハイゼンベルグ中尉が死亡しました」
【Beatrix】「Director General Schmitt, lieutenant Marai passed away」
【シュミット長官】「ご苦労だった、少佐」
【Beatrix】「Must have been hard for you, major」
【ベアトリクス】「我らは党の盾と剣……。反逆者には死の鉄槌を――」
【Beatrix】「We are shield and sword of the party, hammer of death to traitors.」
Have you understood this correctly? And there are hint that she is not really that bad?
Who /NVA/ here?
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It seems slightly better then the anime, at least, but that smirk she gives is still bone-chilling.
The way it was done for the most part was full of mistakes. But that Lise was still cute
she is back to stasi mode after that STASI officer joins them so that smirk is probably fake and look at the scene after that she doesn't look very satisfied what she had to do.
but she still got triggered by that line and lets out an angry moan:
【国家保安省職員】「私を自分の男だと勘違いして自白するとは、哀れな末路ですな」
【STASI Officer】「She thought she was talking to her man……what a pathetic end」
Well at least that's in character. It's implied that she's pretty disgusted by torture in the LN.
What the? Well, makes sense. But still.
That opening scene was fucking fantastic. And sad. The music choice. Also Marai had a good VA.
How did TE even manage to pull it off much better and even get more episodes when age had less money than they do now?
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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yeah she took over and did the information collection the nice way.
you can see that here
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「Put your mind at ease. Its over now」
【ハンニバル】「もうここには怖い人はいない。皆、私が追い払ったよ」
【Hannibal/Beatrix】「There aren't any scary people around anymore. I drove them away.」
which implies that she was tortured by other STASI and then Beatrix took over the interrogation and sent them away.
What's the backstop of Farka. I read about the members of the Werewolf Battalion having "dirty pasts".
>私を自分の男だと勘違いして
Marai was mistaking stasi officer for hannibal, not Beatrix
We don't know since Beato forbid them to talk about it.
She is the "token good" werewolf
So Marai was gang raped...
Seriously. AGE needs to released an uncensored version.
>I needed some healing, and there was no healanon handy, alright
>Inspired by last thread's discussion.
“It’s a bit chilly out, isn’t it Iris?”
Her friend shivered beside her, and Iris briefly wondered if it wasn’t from more than just the cold.
“Do you need a blanket then?”
Her friend shook her head.
“No, that won’t be necessary. It won’t be long before the sun’s up…” she gestured over the horizon at the creeping light. There was a suppressed energy in the air. The promise of Spring was palpable, and with it, rebirth. From the green shoots of early thaw, it promised to be a beautiful one at that. Iris breathed in deep, enjoying the crossroads between seasons, before turning her attentions once more to her friend.
Jürgen had once said that she was the night to her day, that they were like the Sun and the Moon. She’d laughed at Jürgen then, saying that they were more like sisters then opposites. But as she grew older, she came to find it bitterly ironic. Now, there was a different sort of irony.
Beatrix Brehme was a woman of contradictions. Despite everything else, she was still the most beautiful woman that Iris had ever seen. She had once exuded confidence, power, and sensuality; yet men ran from her. She was terrifying, bloodthirsty, and sadistic; the perfect rabid dog of the stasi. Iris had once hung her head in shame at how she could have ever called such a monster “sister.” Now, it shamed her that she had not seen through the mask, seen through to the lonely, hurt woman who cried out until it was nearly too late. And it pained her to see her friend like this, looking so feeble and pale, like the melting snow in the trees around them.
She had Beatrix to thank for why she was not in a similar if not worse state. Whether on purpose or by accident, Beatrix’s Alligatori had shielded Irisdina from most of the damage.
“Ah, Iris, why are you looking at me like that?”
Irisdina, snapped back to reality.
“Whatever do you mean?”
“You were getting all pensive on me.” Iris stared at Beatrix’s red eyes, and had to remember that there were still some thorns on her friend.
“I was just thinking.”
“All intense like.”
“Like I said, just thinking about things. You know, in general?”
“Thinking about me?”
“No.” Iris huffed.
“This whole time I thought you were into Eberbach’s type.” Beatrix said, flashing a grin and somehow striking a flirtatious pose despite being chair bound.
“If you’re implying what I think you’re implying Beatrix…”
“Can’t I have a little bit of fun. I don’t get out very much anyways.” Beatrix relaxed.
“Yeah, neither do I. State this and state that, then there’s the BETA to worry about.”
“Hehe. You broke it, you buy it Iris.”
Beatrix looked as if she wanted to say more, but stopped at that.
“Well, anyways, hopefully you won’t be so cooped up over in the West.” Iris nodded, happy that the topic would not be pursued any further.
Beatrix had gone quiet however, and was staring at her leg stumps.
“Look, I know why you were looking at me. Looking at these.” She wiggled them. “And you shouldn’t feel guilty about it, Iris.”
“Is it not my right to feel concern for my friend’s wellbeing?”
“Heh, you’re so prickly today Iris. What, Eberbach been neglecting you again?”
She glanced up at Iris. Her mischievous grin shown to be a lie by her eyes. Iris met them with a neutral expression.
“But you know, I’ve been happier this past month or so then I’ve been in five years. I’m not going to lie about how everything is just fine. I’m not Saint Ursula Waldheim: God’s Chosen to lead East Germany to victory or whatever they’re calling her nowadays.” Beatrix was getting slightly too animated for Irisdina’s tastes.
>私を自分の男だと勘違いして
than this line means somethin like "She mistook me for her man."
More like the "token werewolf who actually has a face". She's humanized through her bond with Lise but aside from that there just isn't much to go off of.
“Beatrix…” Iris said warningly.
“I’m not allowed to think what I want to think, Iris? Isn’t that one of the principles this new East Germany will be based upon? And as Jürgen said, a friendship should be honest, right?” she seemed to deflate slightly afterwards, breaking eye contact.
“Look, I know we still have some differences here and there, but what I really wanted to say was… please don’t feel bad for me. Please don’t look at me with that pity and guilt. It’s not your fault, and well, I mean it when I say that I haven’t been happier in half a decade then I have now, and I owe you for all that happiness.” Beatrix relaxed back in her chair, as if a weight had been shifted off of her.
“Beatrix…” Iris murmured, feeling that weight now add to her own. “if I had been there for you. If I hadn’t been so determined to demonize you, to push everything onto you, if I had been the sister that I should have, then…”
“Iris, I wouldn’t have exactly been receptive, you know that. And anyways, that’s the past. We’re here for one another now, and that’s what matters, so stop beating yourself up over it.”
Beatrix looked back up into Iris’s eyes. This time, her grin was genuine.
“Ah, I’ve made you all pensive again.”
>Well, should I continue with the rest?
>Y
>N
>>Well, should I continue with the rest?
not on Sup Forums
As far as i can tell.
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
Post more.
It really fucking hurts if you conflate the end of Bea in Lise's with Iris's route. It's even worse when you realize she was essentially trusting Theo right off the bat. It takes a little more analysis of Bea's lines and mannerisms in Lise's route, but she seemed happy to have Theo around. And then he ends her.
>pained despair and then resignation when she remarks Eberbach switched in Lise route
>remarks all her friends and people abandoned her, time to face the darkness alone in Iris route
When will this girl get something resembling happiness dammit?
Now that i looked at the video again it seems to be the case that the Officer is doing the interrogation and she stands in the corner. What confused me were the NOThannibal sighs and they don't make sense now.
she still got triggered by that line
>私を自分の男だと勘違いして
probably because because of Jürgen. she must be sucker for love which is evident when she lets Martin live and promises Lise to reunite her with Theo unless that is retconed now.
Might be a little while then. Gotta type up the rest, then self edit, but you know, once you get on a roll, you can't stop
>mfw I probably just jinxed myself into a writer's block
put it in a google doc or something. it doesn't really have a place on Sup Forums
>When will this girl get something resembling happiness dammit?
probably never. Age for some reason abandoned her even tough she was gaining on popularity and was 2nd or 3rd most popular. but she took a major hit on popularity now with anime and VN.
was nice till this line
>Beatrix had gone quiet however, and was staring at her leg stumps.
aaaand dropped. since her long legs are one of her nice features.
>Beatrix Brehme was a woman of contradictions. Despite everything else, she was still the most beautiful woman that Iris had ever seen.
It'll get better. It's Muv-Luv. She'll eventually get the Haruka treatment.
>Beatrix had gone quiet however, and was staring at her leg stumps.
but prosthetic aren't soft and would probably chafe when leg locking during missionary position.
Sorry. They don't elaborate on the injuries in the VN, just that it killed her, so I assumed the worse.
If she was your waifu, you'd love her anyways.
And what are you talking about? Haruka looks very soft.
she probably had internal injuries that's why she was coughing up blood.
Make like age and retcon it.
What's the word on the route endings? Last I checked, Iris may have survived her route in a coma and there might have been a true end route that everyone missed somehow?
Irisdina is in a coma in her route wakes up briefly smiles and falls back into coma. True route is just a short scene which hints the next VN will be duty lost arcadia.
I am going to treasure that smile.
If you are all that deadset against it, I'll consider replacing it with broken legs (she'd still need braces to move about), but won't it lessen the impact of her "I'm happy, despite" lines? And I was aiming for a theme of contradictions with Beatrix anyways.
No dude write what you want. I'm just shitposting against you as a legman. Removing her legs is just a crime against Humanity.
More like Beatrix's entire, tragedy filled short life is.
don't listen to me. i just wanted to see her whole since she was always missing a piece and now that she regained something she lost something again which pissed me off.
We want her delicious legs
I just want to suck on Irisdina and Beatrix's toes.
Different background.
Oruta ha mada?
>oktoberfest party in the tsf hangar
Well when life gives you lemons I suppose.
scans where
So in the VN Lise is Axmanns double agent it the werewolves he himself placed her there. Is it another retcon that Beatrix saved Lise?
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English, Y U No speak?
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If you're talking about this, that was brainwash. He even makes her shoot Theo and she doesn't even register what she's doing. And when Theo snaps her out if and she sees that she's hurt him she tries to kill herself.
Keep up the good work and link us a google doc once you get it going.
No. I am talking about the beginning of Lise route when they are in the forest talking and she says her superior is axmann and that he placed her in the werewolves.
Wasn't there another thread earlier today? Did that one die early?
what
Is someone going to upload a stream? On twitch maybe. That would be great.
OP got deleted because it isn't blueboard friendly.
No its not a retcon, in the LN Axmann agreed with Beatrix to let Lise go but planned on using Lise as a double agent to inform on Beatrix, which ultimately backfired on him. So you could say Axmann "placed" her there when he was still her "superior", as well as its true that Beatrix gave Lise the opportunity to get away from him in the first place with the promises of better treatment and a chance to save Onii-chan and get revenge on Axmann.
Why not delete the image instead of the thread?
oh thank you for clearing that up. was starting to think that they retconed everything decent she ever did.
Don't want it posted here?
OK, I can do it.
I wanna suck on Irisdina's belly.
just post google doc when you add new stuff.
Ok, I think I'll be done soon.
That navel is owned by me, dude.
Stay away from Iris!
I told Katia the same thing too, but for some reason she keeps popping up.
>sendvid.com
Who is that standing behind Schmidt? Is that Theodor? Kinda looks like his hair. Or is that one of Axmann's men?
no just axman and some unidentified stasi.
Because Iris has doggy treats.
Seems to be a real lack of Pham so far.
>Seems to be a real lack of Pham so far.
Of course, half of her is gone.
Were you?
Not done yet, but nearly there. Next bit is the goodbye:
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I'm going to be taking a short break before I type it up though.
And I changed her stumps to legs, since this guy makes a really good argument as to why
Removing ribbons was not a mistake.
Good anime, shitty aliens.
I wish the god damned illustrator put more work into them. They look like the shit that any 3 year old with a crayon can draw.
I wanna dry hump Pham.
so how many pages do you expect to write?
Even Lise thinks Martyrs was disappointing too.
About two or three more at most. Depends as dialogue scenes can take a mind of their own as I play the characters off against one another.
Definitely not as long as my Jurgen fic however (already got the first little bit of Irisdina and Theo in Berlin, plans for drunk Lise/Theo/Jurgen, accidents, and what not in the next chapter).
Depends on routes. Irisdina is really, really good, mostly because BETA crunching is so much better then TSF fighting, Farka diving in front of Lise to save her, and Iris and Beatrix interplay.
What are the chances we will get some requiem side stories in other VNs like the side stories in Chronicles?
looking forward to Jurgen fic
Gotta love a girl in uniform.
Nice, keep up the good work. Everyone should need some healing.
I'm in love with this defenseless hauptmann
I think Balke is the character you write best.
>“But it is better to have your pants up and on if you’re caught, right?
Is just golden.
So is Lise's rape scene described in detail?
No, but it's enough to nuke threads.
The only way Lise would't be disappointed in the VN would be if her route was nothing but non-stop hot sweaty fucking with Onii-chan with or without the lights on, preferably somewhere west of the border.
what?
Mods 404'd us for Lise posting both here and on /m/.
They'll only tolerate so much from our threads. Remember, we're in a grey area as is.
I just realized my own fic's installments with ML content alone are now double the size of healanon's combined works. And it's nowhere near done, not by any stretch of the imagination. Of course, since it's my private, internal use only fiction project, it's not and probably never will be publicly available, but I'm slowly adding to it, page by page.
Would you like to know more?
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>Lise 2lewd for mods