Can someone help explain to me how Black Goku came about...

Can someone help explain to me how Black Goku came about? Does Zamusa from the present also plan on switching bodies with Goku? And does black Goku want to permanently stay Goku. I got confused watching the events unfold.

Does Zamusa permanently stay as Goku or do they switch back?

Why does everyone want Goku's body from Ginyu to Zamusa?

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>Zamusa

Fuck off and use the catalog next time, newfag.

There are no Zamusa/ Goku Black threads in the catalog.

As far as I know Zamusa in the alternate timeline is permanently Goku as he kill;ed goku in his body.

Zamusa/ Black Goku are without a doubt my favorite character/villain.

You are without a doubt 13.

Why on earth would you say that? I'm thirty.

Zamusa is from the regular time line, Black from the Future Trunks timeline where Goku died of a heart virus and stayed dead

How did he get Goku's body if Goku is dead? And was Zamusa from the regular timeline also planning on switching bodies with Goku?

>Zamusa.

What about him?

Member Dragon Ball made sense?

It was such a cool idea to have Zamusa in Goku's body fuse with Zemusa in his own body.

Zamasu originally killed Gowasu before Whis turned back time. However, the Zamasu of that timeline was able to get to wearing the time ring before Beerus killed the Zamasu of the rewinded timeline. The time ring prevented the first Zamasu from being erased in his timeline. He then went on to use the time ring and the super dragon balls to swap bodies with Goku and to find an alternate timeline where Beerus wasn't around, which led to him finding Future Trunks timeline. In the Future Trunks timeline, Supreme Kai was killed during their version of the Buu saga, and killing Supreme Kai would've also killed Beerus and put Whis into stasis.

And Zamasu wanted Goku's body partly as revenge and partly because he wanted the saiyan's strength and ability to get even stronger.

Did he wish to remain permanently fused with his former body and self?

Is that even possible in the Dragonball Z universe for two people to remain forever fused?

Did Zamasu in Goku's absorb any of his characteristics of personality traits besides just his body and powers? And how is it that Zamasu mastered Goku's body but Ginyu couldn't?

>I got confused watching the events unfold.

How does it feel to be too stupid to understand a children's cartoon?

Zamasu had more time with Goku's body, while Ginyu only for a while.

>Zamusa is from the regular time line
Which one is the regular timeline? Beerus killed the main perspective timeline Zamasu

Ginyu isnt a prodigy like Zamasu and Ginyu had only like 5 seconds.

>Zamusa
>Zamusa
>ZamUSA
>ZAMUSA

Z-A-M-A-S-U. For fuck's sakes.

Goku Black is a causal loop time paradox caused by the Time Rings and the Time Machines contradicting forms of time travel fucking with everything

its Samus you dumb bitch

this got me thinking.

Toriyamna loves making thematic names or names related to objects, so what are Zamasu's and Gowasu's names based off?

I want to tie up Zamasu and torture his dick

leave zamusa to me

Step 1: Black attacks Trunk's in the future, Trump goes back in time

Step 2: Goku in the present goes and meets Zamasu while investigating Black, setting the creation of Black in motion

Step 3: Zamasu kills Gowasu and takes the time ring. In the "main" timeline that is already up to Zamasu's antics, Whis witnesses this happens and stops it. Beerus kills Zamasu.

Step 4: Zamasu uses the super dragon balls to switch bodies with goku, kills Chichi/Goten.

Step 5: Uses the time Ring to get an alternate timeline version of Zamasu who is corrupted but had yet to kill Gowasu or get killed by Beerus. They team up and wish for his immortality using the super dragon balls

Can someone explain to me how the Kai system works?


Is Shin the new grand supreme kai of universe seven? Arent there 5 supreme kai's, 1 grand, 4 cardinal directional? I think Shin used to be east.

Is Gowasu the grand supreme kai of universe 10 or directional? Were Kibito and Zamasu born from golden fruit?

What do the regular kais do and are they considered gods? Can they be fucked with to kill the gods of destruction? King Kai is dead to no ill effect. How come when he died, his soul didnt just get reborn as a fruit on kai world?

So somewhere in the Dragonball universe in one timeline is Zamasu living ad Goku permanently?

In Goku's body or his own original body?

So was he stopped? And how could he switch bodies with Goku if Goku was dead?

Why wish for Goku's body? Couldn't he have just kept his body for merely wishing for Goku's powers?

I imagine that since King Kai already lived in the Other World and died of unnatural causes, he could stay due to the nature of his death.

He can get Zenkai boosts and go Super Saiyan, while also having a disguise of sorts.

it's the opposite.

Did Future Zamasu also want Goku's body, was he planning on switching bodies with the goku from that timeline as well?

goku is dead in tern didn't meet foku and went with the option of immortally.

If Goku is dead, then how the fuck is he fighting?

ZAMASS (black) is from a timeline identical to the main timeline except for Zamass being killed by Beerus
ZAMASS (immortal) is from Future Trunks" timeline.

Which timeline is goku dead in?

no

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but it doesn't explain the time loop paradox how Trunks instigated Zamasu and Goku meeting.

>Is that even possible in the Dragonball Z universe for two people to remain forever fused?
Yes, look at the Elder Kaioshin who fused with a witch.

Timeloop are fine. Look at the first Terminator:
>Skynet is beaten by John Connor
>Skynet send a Terminator to kill John Connor's mom
>John Connor sned Kyle Reese to save his mom
>Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor conceive John Connor.

You can even go deeper, since SKYNET was created by CyberDyne thanks to the remain of the Terminator sent to the past to destroy John Connor.

Basically black is a zamasu from a different timeline a lot like the main timeline, only whis and beerus do not stop them. Theoretically Whis reversing time so beerus could kill Zamasu created an alternate timeline where they didn't stop zamasu probably. Then he became black and ended up finding a zamasu in future trunk's alternate universe and teamed up with him.

It's not a paradox. Trunks instigated Goku and Black meeting, and because of that they went to investigate the similar ki of zamasu in their timeline which ultimately led to black's creation.

Just like how Bulma didn't actually invent a time machine, she just figured out how to via being gifted one from her future self along with notes that I'm sure she was previously given by herself.

and that is why only the first 2 movies were good
3 is still my guilty pleasure

Black is present Zamasu except due to timeloop caused by Trunks going back in time in the Cell sage he became Black before any event happened in the present timeline. It was explained that it was all Trunks fault.

nope everyone on the internet agrees it's a type of Loop Paradox.
If you want to bypass the fact that Trunks instigated Black's existence (thus looping back to Trunks needing to travel back in time) you have to create an external reasoning as to why Zamasu hates Goku (besides the initial duel)
This was corrected in the manga thanks to Kibito and Kai informing him.