Hey Sup Forums college fag here

Hey Sup Forums college fag here

I've been given an assignment to write a 10 page essay about political movements in the US. I've decide I wanted to write about the modern Nationalist/Alt Right movements. I've been on here for years and I see pol as the birthplace of the Alt Right movement.

I have a few question for you, the first being: How did you come to hold Alt Right/White Nationalist/Rationalist etc views?

I wanted to hear it straight from the horses mouth so to speak. And could you point me towards some resources you think would help me in writing my assignment?

Thanks

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do your own homework

Why are you asking about individual anectotes, instead of explaining the core of the movements and ideologies themself?

The fuck is the alt-right? Not interested in applying a label to myself that Hillary Clinton made up so you can discredit by association with some "leader" nobody ever heard of like Richard Spencer.

i understand the basic beliefs of the movement, i just wanted to talk to the people within the movement

also if (you) think you can write 10 pages on a non movement then enjoy your F
do it on the southern democrats or free soilers so you can have an actually sourced paper and not sperg out in written form

>I see pol as the birthplace of the Alt Right movement

You're a fool.

So you don't like the label? Why don't you like Richard Spencer?

Where then?

Sounds boring

"people in the movement"
Nigger, nobody that is here is in the movement. If you want that sort of story, look up openly alt-right sites and movements. Hell, everyone over there loves to talk about "muh redpilling story".

I beg to differ. There are National Socialist general threads on here everyday

There is no alt-right, dumbass.

The people who voted for Trump are just regular run of the mill conservatives.

I never said anything about Trump.

And they are generals about ideology, not about individuals. There is no revelation to tell about reading up on simple knowledge.

>Oh wow, i was bored one day, and i read a nazi thread on a whim. Agreed with some of the points, so i posted. Now i am a thought criminal.

All actions here are done without individuality, so asking about individuals themselves will earn you nothing but spouted bullshit. Once more, ask real street activists if you want alt right, because here you will just find echoes.

Sup Forums isn't my only source m8 calm down im trying to be thorough

The problem is that i gather this will end up like majority of articles about alt-right. No discussion on the contents, only about individuals. Its so easy to never discuss the contents of the message when instead you fixate on some anecdotes.

In my case, it's not that I left the left, the left left me. A couple of things came together. Like most men of our generation, I was raised with a certain amount of male guilt - second-wave feminists who had sons tended to tell us we were second-class human beings. That's a hell of a mind game to play on a little kid, so when I got out on my own and started watching anti-feminist videos (mostly girlwriteswhat) I was ready to change my mind.

Around the same time, Obama was really disappointing me and others who believed in the constitution - not closing gitmo, extending the patriot act, bailing out wall street... And I noticed that nobody was calling him out on it, and when I did they'd say something about the president not controlling everything. Fair enough, up to then I was all on board with the progressive train.

This is where it gets fuzzy, but I would say that what to me was an open disappointment about Obama the president not living up to Obama the candidate's promises, to a lot of other people was a source of cognitive dissonance. I used to think that the left had cornered the market on sanity, because you'd see people like Bill O'reilly making asses of themselves and it was easy to just say, "well, if that's what the right is like, I guess I'm a leftist". Around the second half of Obama's second term, I noticed that a lot of people on the left seemed to be losing their collective shit. Again, my theory is that it was cognitive dissonance of supporting Obama after he had spit in the face of every progressive value his voters held dear, but I'm just guessing - all I know for sure is, what seemed like an irrational nastiness unique to the right became even more pronounced on the left. So I looked for alternative sources of information, and ended up here.

As for resources - Karen Straughn I've already mentioned, Lauren Southern is fun, and I'd even recommend Yuval Harari on evolutionary humanism.

You have to understand, the 'alt-right' is a coalition of anarchist libertarians and fascist totalitarians, both of whom saw a tactical advantage in getting Trump elected but don't much like each other. Spencer is more totalitarian while /Pol leans more libertarian.

Are most "Alt Righters" former leftists? (I could use a more appropriate term if there is one)

>I could use a more appropriate term

Don't worry about that, we know what you mean even if we pretend you don't.

As for your question - I have no idea, I haven't ever tried to ask people their stories. I'd guess it's not most, but maybe 'many'. The 'berniebros' who wanted to send a message to the democratic party would certainly fit the kind of demographic I represent, and there must have been a fair number of them staying home on election night at least.

Did you vote in the 2017 election?

Another way to think about the former leftist question - there are all these stories of people having fallings-out with their facebook friends over supporting the wrong candidate - we don't really hear of a lot of people who kept an open mind and changed their opinions. But liberals on average tend to keep a much more open mind - one of my coworkers was telling me today that his moment of clarity came when he saw the unedited video of Trump feeding Koi. He'd been worried about his friends until then also, but to his credit he didn't unfriend them and came to change his mind.

I'm Canadian, so no. If I could vote I'd have voted for Jill, Then Gary, Then Donald.

What are the core beliefs of the Alt Right? What are their end goals?

I'm not sure the movement is homogeneous enough for there to be a meaningful answer - "Save Western Civilisation" may fit the bill, but what that means would differ depending on which particular deplorable you ask.

I went with Gary to try and give third party a chance at that sweet 5% public funding limit. But secretly wanted Trump just to see the world burn for a little bit. Now realizing he’s putting out the fires

What is Western Civilization exactly? Is it a people or a set of beliefs?

Why would you "want to see the world burn"

Freedom. Anti-corruption. Anti-kiddie-diddlers. Anti-“social” justice. Pro-justice. Strong country with like minds inhabiting. Way less of a welfare state. Strong borders to keep all the above.

I was a SJW way back in the late 1990s when I was in HS and didn't know any better. Hell, I sat for the anthem before it was cool. For the same douche bag reasons todays folks do it, but I was just a dumb kid. I don't know anyone who called themselves alt-right before the left started calling everyone alt-right. Sorta like racist... until everyone gets called on, no one knew they were one... because they never felt they were better because of their race,but who knew!?!

For me it was a slow process. I learned that I wanted to be self sufficient, and rather than the evil capitalist in my way, it was the government time and time again. I realized all the laws to protect people really just controlled who got ahead and maintained their version of a happy status quo. I started studying history and philosophy and gained an understanding of natural rights.

Then Trump. It's really pretty funny. Trump is probably the most moderate of all the candidates of any party from the last election, and he's labeled far right. Sorry, nope. He's more like a T Roosevelt, but much more pro business (different times, same people). So early on I realized that Trump really doesn't represent my philosophy, but he does represent me. He's brash and doesn't give a damn about the stupid stuff but wants to do good. You can't just flip the libertarian switch on the country... we've spent over 200 years screwing up the constitution, she's a big ship and it takes awhile to make that arc and turn around. Trump isn't my right man, but I realized he was the right man for right now.

If you take time to study the intentions of the constitution I think you'll get a good understanding of the core principle. The challenge is when you get a bunch of people who mostly just want to be left alone, you don't get these big visible protest of us all working together. Though seeing what happens as a collective in an anarchy is quite amusing.

Is it a Nationalist movement?

I was sick of the career politicians. I traveled across the country to see Obama inaugurated. Then some of the first words out of his mouth, “we will not look to the crimes of the past, but forward to a better future” or some bullshit...it made me realize that he wasn’t going to jail Cheney, Rove, or Bush or even slap their wrist. It was then that my eyes opened to the uniparty and I was a duped. Not 5 fucking minutes in. The rest of the red pills came later, but that was my first seed of it. And “watch it burn” is not literally, but I was sick of the rinse and repeat. I wanted actual change. And I knew an outsider could provide that.

What about Trump makes him the anti establishment candidate?

I would say that’s close, but the current connotations for saying “Nationalist” isn’t correct. I would deter towards a saying, coincidentally, that’s big in the current hippie movement, “support local”. If everyone made only neighbor smile, then it would spread to nations. But resources are thing, so are ideologies, and so are evil people. Gotta protect you and yours before the world. For instance, why would any country give another country money when there are homeless and distraught people needing at home?

Both political parties hate him and he doesn't care.

He has never been in politics and didn’t make his money off of politics. He may have failed in a few businesses but he kept trying, and he knew what they were up to. And when the entire machine (Mainstream media, Clinton cabal, paid talking heads, and Alphabet agencies) are against someone like that...it makes you wonder...is the enemy of my enemy a friend? And I say, for now.

Not speaking for anyone but myself here obviously...

But I'd say it's a set of beliefs that, when they're accepted, make it easier for smart, hardworking people to care for their friends and loved ones.

That said, 'save western civilization' is a rallying cry for those of us who are already doing okay. A lot of people in both Trump elections and Brexit were most concerned with throttling the supply of labour in hopes that the price would increase. Or, as says, because the system is rife with deadwood and needs a controlled burn.

Another source you may want to look at is Dan Carlin's podcast "revenge of the gangreneous finger" dancarlin.com/product/common-sense-307-revenge-gangrenous-finger/

For one, Wikileaks backed him.

I would say they didn’t “back” him as much as they didn’t find or didn’t get anything on him. He’s squeaky clean compared to everyone else in DC. And that scares the shit out of them.

I was referring to the fact that they didn't release everything they had on Hillary at once but kept releasing pieces of it so it would stay in the public debate for as long as possible. Granted, that might have been more for Julian's protection than a desire to see one or another candidate win, but not releasing everything at once definitely made it look like they had picked a side.

I figure Julian Assange knows all the powerful people's dirty laundry. If he has a preference, it's probably because he knows something relevant.

>Alt Right/White Nationalist/Rationalist
One of those is not like the others, you fucking faggot.

Richard Spencer is a dirty media whore who enjoys LARPing as a brownshirt. He did more than anyone else to make "alt-right" synonymous with "neo-Nazi".

The fact that nobody in politics, the media, or academia wants him. He exposes the keystone of modern democracy as a lie: it's not about what the people want, but about what the people can be convinced to want by those who hold soft power.

He serves in this role even better if Russia placed him in power, because all objections to his election are objections to Russian propaganda gaining supremacy over American propaganda.

Ahhh gotcha. Also note, the public doesn’t can’t pay attention for more than 5 days on anything it seems. Julian wanted it to stick. The powers wouldn’t be able “slide his thread” as well

I agree, and the fact that Julian wanted it to stick seemed pretty significant to me.

well, i was a communist for 5 years, then i grew up out of my childish beliefs

Remember kiddo,
Alt right is nothing but a blanket strawman to misrepresent anyone not fitting a left wing agendas. This is something you must take note. Write it down!
Those who are claiming to be alt right are just pulling the same move we did to brits during the revolutionary war. Google "yankee doodle dandy" and you will see what i mean.