New episode in 18 hours. Looks like we're gonna get some more clues about art club senpai.
Flip Flappers
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Best girl episode incoming.
How much flap can a flip flap flip if a flip flap could flip flaps?
I hope it can compete with the quality of the last episode
Papika is the cutest and she makes me very happy.
My Yayakat greets me when I get home.
Why doesn't Cocona wear glasses anymore?
I only just realized her name isn't Paprika
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Post this version from now on. I forgot to color in all of Papika's hair
So they entered the fat kissu dimension?
Can it even be better than last episode?
It's another genre bender, and this time iyashikei is on the menu.
i know this is very episodic but i feel like there is a 1-2 episode skip between the actual episodes, like at the end of 4 they got sucked into they hole and we got 2-3 slides of them jumping through somewhere and then they where explaining their transformation and sending them off.
i really like the show but this irks me, if there is a future episode where they have to go back and "fill the gaps" that would be awesome but i dont think that will happend
They are keeping these episode for an OAV release, or perhaps a second season. ;__;
It won't happen, there just isn't time to have multiple episodes of them doing the exact same things over and over again in a 13 episode series. If those stories would have just been more examples of Yayaka and the twins stealing the fragments when Cocona/Papika find them then it makes sense to omit those more so than most other things. I mean there is something to be said for repeated exposure building up a sense of attachment to the characters but like I said you really cant afford to try to do that in 13 episodes. In a show like a Precure or whatever where they have 52 episodes they can easily spend weeks doing the same thing and only confront a serious plot nearer the end. I don't really feel like this show is half as episodic as you think though either, the main plot moves slowly sure but the episodes all tell a story that moves forward.
I agree, the time skip seems totally unnecessary to me and I can't figure out what they thought they were gaining by doing it. It doesn't imply any growth between Papika and Cocona because they seemed just as close in episode 5 as in episode 3. If the point was to get Yayaka a certain number of shards then they could have easily just implied that she'd already found a bunch on her own, or something.
I do not see what story purpose the time skip actually served, other than to be kind of jarring and make it seem like we missed out on interesting parts of what happened.
im all for the plot moving along and the story actually concluding i just feel like it could have been handled in another way than it currently is, just have to add that i do enjoy the show
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The purpose was letting them actually tell the story rather than repeating the same things.
I don't really think there is much other way to handle it besides ignoring that part all together, at least this way you get told that the battle has continued.
Is Paprika really a robot?
>they seemed just as close in episode 5 as in episode 3
user, episode 3 didn't have the amount of handholding episode 5 had.
>The purpose was letting them actually tell the story rather than repeating the same things.
Why not make Episode 5 take place directly after Episode 4 instead?
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My bad, I meant the end of Episode 4. I.e. it would have been a seamless transition between "our naked sleepover on yuri island" to their "our creepy sleepover in yuri haunted house."
Establishing the dominance of Yayaka or Cocona/Papika, they made a major break through in episode 5 by defeating her the first time in a Pure Illusion and mastering their henshin.
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>the eyes in the glasses are bigger
Nice touch.
That should say "dominance of Yayaka over"
They'd already lost to her in 3, though, and the rivalry was already effectively established in that single encounter. They didn't have to gild the lily.
They lost to her once, losing once is chance losing repeatedly establishes inferiority.
The flashbacks showed that that team KKK was superior to them, actually winning in episode 5 wouldn't have the same impact.
It gives motivation to the whole development of the method they use to trigger transformations manually too. If they were already able to easily beat Yayaka there would be no reason for them to continue to develop methods to reduce their impedance and transform on will.
I think if they hadn't done that there would have been people complaining about their victory over them seeming so sudden, the fact that an unknown period of time has passed where in you expect them to have been training and gradually improving all the while makes it ultimately more believable that they could actually beat Yayaka only a few episodes later too given their previous incompetence.
Papika, Cocona (a brand of pepper), and Dr. Salt. Perfect team.
Twintails when?
yea but you could have shown them failing or training, anything more than 3 fast stills would do.
3 stills isnt a montage it isnt even a slideshow of events
wrong reference
Reading the lyrics of FLIP FLAP and Over the Rainbow, the following things are evident:
1. Shards of Mimi come from a box. The box is specifically mentioned in both songs. OtR specifically says that shards come from the box.
2. Papika and Cocona are the key to open the door. Well, this is what the story summary had already said, but again, both songs emphasize that.
3. The visible world is an illusion/dream. OtR lyrics pretty much literally say that.
>3. The visible world is an illusion/dream
Two stills, and they achieved their purpose teamed with the voice over this show has never spent very long on lengthy exposition and off screen events do not seem to be an exception to that. It has always been very lean in the way it tells the story, it is often quite efficient and deliberate even if slow paced. I think all that is really bothering you is that they showed you that more interesting works existed and you wont get to see them explore them? I can understand that, they look pretty cool and it probably would have been fun to see them explored, there are probably countless more ideas that wont make it into the show either too, but ultimately I think it is quite understandable why they would do that the way they did with the length of time they have.
interesting worlds not works
you are probably right, in the end i just want to see more
Also there's a long TO-MAS interview where they discuss Flip Flappers and writing BGM for it. I haven't read it myself yet, but there could be something interesting.
It was the result of bad directing. I mean, they could just play it comically in episode 5. For example, they continue the handholding scene from episode 4. Then, suddenly the scene changes back into the Flip Flap base, with them beaten with lumps. Hidaka nagged them that they should have made more preparation, even though they have stabilized the impedance. If it's like that, at least it's more forgivable, as at least it gives off the message that reality is still cruel for these two, but in a comical way.
Would you have actually just preferred that they show Papika and Cocona walking down that corridor to the Thomasson and had her say "we already lost 3 fragments to them" and then never show any images? Can you imagine the speculation and confusion that would cause here if you have no idea why they lost 3 fragments? People would be arguing over all sorts of small details to try and discern if more than one had been taken prior to now, if they were all taken in pure illusions and so on. It adds quick clarity too. They lost 3 fragments in the same way we have seen on screen. It was essential that they showed them otherwise people would be complaining even more about "nonsensical" time skips.
That's just another way of establishing off screen action. I'm not sure what you think is inherently superior about that method. There is nothing inherently bad about skipping time in order to get to parts of the story that are actually important.
i like the idea the user above you had, also i would have preferred if they did acknowledge that with the last 3 fragments they are at a 0-3+ loss, a few seconds would be enough.
and i do agree on that last part of your post, i just feel like it was to "hard" of a jump if that makes sense.
at the moment it seems like they are in a strange land between episodic and arcing story but leaning towards story arc, im sorry if im bad at explaining what i mean, on a busy buss atm
the more I watch this show the more I love the soundtrack. each episode seems to have its own kind of thing going on, like the bitchin' electric guitar in episode 3 and the spooky music in 5.
Goddamn this is like Valvrave all over again. The fanbase totally don't accept any criticisms whatsoever because of continuous trolling.
Yes, it is. It's a matter of technical mastery regarding storytelling. They chose to do timeskip, but they did so in terrible manner. the terrible method is unintentional, because they lacked the necessary skills to pull it off. I don't know why you defend the timeskip fanatically. Why don't you ask the director then, if you really want to prove to anyone else that it's a deliberate and decent way to skip scenes? This isn't the same as all those people complaining not getting the storyline, back in episode 1 and 2. This is a legit criticism.
It should be apparent if you read the work history of the staff behind it. Small typical sweatshop studio, Good freelance animators, newbie director, untalented scriptwriter (she made a lot of flops), etc. It's like you've only been watching anime for 2 years or something.
This work should be seen as an interesting groundwork for their next project. Even Yuniko isn't shit in this show, so she might just be terrible at career choices, not necessarily artistically. Though the question of consistency in composition is obvious, since this show is all over the place with their homages. From it, we get the question of originality too. Also, about self-completion, namely if we can understand the plot without knowing umwelt, the work they're referencing, etc. Serious work obviously need serious assessment.
>Finally 10k subscribers on Twitter
>Amazon ranking has been stable all week
>6th episode looks like a tearjerker 神回, nips love that shit
Maybe it won't sell so bad after all...
>fan art with tits
Blasphemy.
Hey does anyone have the image with Cocona as a rapper? I can't find it anywhere.
Their bodies grow in henshin-mode, the height increases and the boobs also become larger.
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thanks senpai
the ED on youtube also has 100k views, although that probably means nothing
I don't see that idea as being any better. It loses the element of giving the impression time has passed during which they would have been improving their skills.
What are you even talking about? Defend fanatically? Accept any critcism? You can't hold one person defending one thing accountable for everybody defending anything. I can make plenty of criticisms of the show I just don't think there was anything particularly wrong with this or the way it was done. The whole thing about "you haven't watched anime long enough if you defend this" is just ridiculous and irrelevant too.
As I said previously the way it was done in my opinion served a purpose and served it well, its disappointing that we didn't get to see those worlds explored but understandable why we can't and the way they did it served to clear up any confusion that might of been there if we hadn't been shown how the 3 fragments were won by Yayaka.
With the rest of your points, I don't think it is really fair to judge a writer based on work on adaptation in the same way as work on an original. They are totally different processes which should be obvious. An adaptation is a process of slicing up chunks of pre-existing material and ideas and parcelling them into episodes. An original gives you the opportunity to express your own ideas.
With regards to the rest of it, I don't think the majority of references in this show are all that significant to the plot at all and if they are it usually in a tangential way thematically supporting character development or the part of the story they are trying to tell in a loose fashion rather than expressing anything concrete you need to know.
Can't wait for the doujinshi.
You've been a naughty girl, Cocona.
Left or right?
>18 hours
I cant wait that long
20 hours for me because stupid appointments
YAYAKA A SHIT!
Watch episode 5 again.
This is the most rewatchable episode of the season.
Tell them you've got your period, genius.
I want to but I dont want nightmare fuel, the episode is comfy overall but the unsettling atmosphere and creepy vibe of the girls, their distorted voices, and the way they move is 2 spooky
I've already rewatched episode 3 and parts of 1 and 2
>their distorted voices
That was the directors voice.
18 hours until sub or raw?
Raw, which means sub will be next day maybe
Fuck
Right.
I'm going ta give Yayaka a kiss on the forehead.
6am PST crunchyroll upload
HS whenever
Huh it legitimately is doing much better than past weeks in preorder rankings, not that the ranking is amazing but its better than dropping thousands of places weekly like usual. Maybe trending in a good direction.
What? It airs in 12 hours. Subs don't take much more than an hour after that I believe.
The clock moves 10 minutes during the last scene with Yayaka in episode 5. Their conversation actually took 10 minutes, but in the show it was condensed to less than a minute.
YAYAKA IS HURTING INSIDE AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS!
Or it is just a continuity error and so small they didn't think anyone would notice or care.
>taking anime time with more than a grain of salt
Shouldn't it be 8:50 and 9:00?
Why would they redraw the clock hands?
Yayaka pleases old men for creamboxes.
>Time is going backwards
Time to panic.
The screenshots are already reflected.
Nevermind, didn't see that you already mirrored them.
one for the flappers
two for hard flips
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? 3rd ep is still the best
>trusting the clock tower
Yayaka's gonna be my bride.
Oh lawd, you can't be THIS deluded. All the loose themes are loose, not because it forms a loose metaphors or themes. It's because it's episodic, but a poorly-directed one. That's why they "can't" come up with anything concrete at all, because it's all inside your own head. You're too conditioned by Sup Forums's bullshit speculah and see the show more than what it shows itself. There is not enough repetition, no recurring metaphors, anything like Tatami Galaxy. It's not a show like that. Flip Flappers is a magical girl show with some shonen action elements in it. That's it. The plot tries to unravel in a standard conventional way, but is simply too jarring in execution and resulted in a loose mess, where they have to cover it up in later episodes with flashbacks, as if they forgot about to add it earlier.
Just mark my word. If you really think this as anything more than a cute magical girl adventure with some bit of shonen action elements, then you'll bound to be disappointed. Let's see how it goes then.
Who knows. It's odd that a cloud would remain in the same position for ten minutes too.
Maybe she should have opened up to Cocona more. Now her only friend is replacing her with a dog.
dem pits jesus
I am not sure who you think you are arguing with but it isn't me. My point was that they aren't significant to the plot, as in they are things that have been put in a specific episode because the creators think they are cool and they can work them around the part of the story they are trying to tell that week and work well with that part of the story and by loosely thematically related I mean things like including references to illusions, theres no bearing on the overall show they are just things that are cool to spot and somewhat related and interesting.
I think there is a legitimate argument to be made that they should have told a different story rather than trying to fit too much in 13 episodes which shows poor planning and thus forcing all the timeskips but I don't think that given the story they are trying to tell there is much wrong with the way they have gone about trying to fit it into 13 episodes so far.
More like cock tower.
How come Cocona don't want me, cat?
what the fuck is the purpose of making subtitles that look like how muffled voices sound?
yes, that one character said daijobu with something in her mouth making it sound funny, it doesn't mean you have to make the subtitle "joo ogey?"
give it a regular translation you fucks. we already can see that the character isn't speaking clearly on the screen.
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