NBU

New British Union
Potential?
Yay or nay?

nope.
They are full blown neo-nazi larpers. They have destroyed Mosley's image

Then which party should I join that closely aligns with my Fascist beliefs?

make your own?

This.

British Stormfag Party
BSP
100% votes

Where would we start?
The problem with this is that there's a large abundance of "literally who" parties, and with the typical Mosely ideals they'll end up getting shit on or just attached to the slightly bigger parties as branches or "copycats"
Would a more ideal method be just slowly changing an ideal party (Such as Hitler did with the NSDAP" slightly to gain success?

If Mosley was still around he would be furious about this party who have destroyed his image.
They know nothing about British Fascism and just follow Hitler and his cult of personality.

If you can rise up through UKIP, a more anti-immigration party, you could twist it to become more fascist

>Would a more ideal method be just slowly changing an ideal party (Such as Hitler did with the NSDAP) slightly to gain success?
Possibly. Although I wouldn't turn the party into a fascist organisation, as people will eventually realise and remember 'DA EBIL NAZIS'. A populist party that is similar to UKIP or the BNP may be accepted eventually if things get worse in Britain.

You dont have to call it fascist to be fascist. Come up with a new name, should work.

UKIP isn't National Socialist.

They're essentially authoritarian Conservatives. Surely for a 'national community', you would need something akin to the Labour party where the people serve the state and the state serves the people- true Nationalist Socialism where both parties benefit.

UKIP and the BNP are simply more Eton boys out to make money off common people. Not worth your time.

What does that matter now?

We need to resecure our boarders, we need a coherent fascist approach, we need to get rid of Jews. Once liberalism is defeated we can get back to work.

I think Britain would have to face a huge crisis for a fascist party to gain power. But the problem is the general populace may be expecting a fascist or communist party to step up and attempt to gain power.

Just stopping by to burger your thread.

Piss off Yank

Pissing off.

Cheers

I think a lot of NBUs problem lies in image, not policies.
The policies seem pretty alright, and even the rank and party structure was modeled from Mosely party.

Hitlerism isn't proper Fascism though. Italian Fascism and British fascism are godtier where as Hitlerism is self destructive and would not work these days.

What made Hitlerism self destructive? It seems to me that it worked in Germany until WW2.

Ah, and you have answered your own question. Hitler was horrible at realpolitik and many times chose war over diplomacy.
Also, the fact Hitler was a control freak led to him losing many battles as he didn't let his generals do as they wished.

We need more movement and organization to create movements that aren't just Germanaboos. Each country needs its own symbols, flags and ideals. A lot of time and effort is needed but with most people larping and joking (Discord servers, chatrooms, news sites etc all mostly just having a laugh) it seems times will be tough.

Anyway dumping some Mosley stuff.

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Guard that sacred flame, my brother Blackshirts, until it illuminates Britain and lights again the paths of mankind.

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But if Nazism stayed in Germany and didn't try to expand the Reich, would it have worked?

This country is degenerate AF. The only thing saving is is going full Fascist/Traditionalist mode since the current millenial generation are worse than our GenXers. Millennials are in no way fit enough to raise a decent (at least) household while we live under ''liberal democracy''. We also need to start reducing the women in our workforce, and pretty much remove all of them from any political position.

That, or we just let East London Shari'ah law take over.

You can stop flooding now

This "NBU" sounds almost as cringy as Lib Dem supporters.

Most likely but Nazism, more specifically their economic policies needed a war to survive.

How do you know that? Why can't a national socialist nation sustain itself?

Pic related considered ''right wing'' here.

Meanwhile, the only people where who are genuinely right wing, socially, are just Thatcherites like Mogg and Farage. There's no right wing unity here. Just a few 1970s tier tories, and a few degenerates who post on Britain First facebook page

Because the entire ideology is based upon having an enemy to fight. The economic boom may have been great at first but had there not been a war, the German economy would have stagnated.

I think we just need to sustain protectionist capitalism while we have a form of 'moral' authoritarianism. Otherwise this country is just going to continue to spiral down the toilet at this point.

you will not succeed without a leader with god tier oratory skills

It's a common myth that Germanies economy only worked due to rearmament. Rearmament was a tool all nations used to help get out of depression but the economy was improving before the militarization of the Rhine through social programs and so on.

Some claim that National socialists merely got these gains because of Wiemar republic economic policies but thats like saying X president failed/succeeded due to past president type thought.

Fascism does not need a constant war. Look at nationalist Spain as an example.

>tfw you will never live in a timeline where mosley became PM and helped germany

even that doesnt cut it. You need a truly destined set of circumstances to acheive the sort of radical and violent change that this country desperately needs. You need a charismatic leader, as well as a strong nad numerous rank and file to enforce the leader's beliefs.
then you need the right economic circumstances, the right cultural frustration, the right news cycle, the right random chance patterns occuring from people's lives randomly leading them to be more sympathetic to your cause.......

it's a monolithic task but all we can do is try

I suppose we can find comfort in the fact that history repeats.

I wasn't talking about Fascism in general, I was talking about Nazism.