Do you get it yet?

Do you get it yet?

Personally, I think it's the only viable way to go. None of us are Chad.

We have to wake up as many men as possible. With all those false accusations floating around I imagine you don't have to be very smart to question some things.

I think I'm starting to.
I really want a partner but it seems like a woman with with what would have been the average mindset 100 years ago doesn't exist anymore.
Even if I somehow do manage to find a qt loyal virgin wife she's undoubtedly just going to be eventually influenced by all the degeneracy around her.
It seems the only way to win the game is not to play.

MGTOW = CULTURAL MARXISM

yeah dude I'm redpilled

The only woman you're gonna find is an overweight dyke golddigging parasite who will throw rape accusations at the first sign of flirting.

That's obviously not true but I don't doubt a lot of women would do that.

If all women are degenerate then is choosing to abstain really being bluepilled?
The whole point of "preserving the white race" is that you preserve it with children with good morals and values passed on by yourself.
If your wife is just going to divorce you, take your kids and raise them as degenerates then all you've done is waste 10+ years of your life and created more people who oppose your cause.

If there are no viable white women around or available, do you agree it's good to have children with non white women?

the fact that you're asking if any white women at all are worth it shows you are bluepilled limp wristed faggots who sit on the internet brainwashing themselves and waiting for a woman to fall in your laps.

all this divorce shit and "my kids will turn out to be degenerates!" shit is you reading too many headlines and JUSTIFYING effectively STERILIZING yourselves.

there are no answers here on the internet. you ask these questions by looking for yourself in real fucking life you MGTOW human waste

Nordic Libertarian Resistance Movement

>the fact that you're asking if any white women at all are worth it shows you are bluepilled limp wristed faggots

How many women are virgins? Oh close to zero? Hmm.

who sit on the internet brainwashing themselves and waiting for a woman to fall in your laps.

Yeah cause approaching women is very smart when she can just accuse you of rape if she feels insulted that an average looking guy talked to her.

>my kids will turn out to be degenerates

How is that far from reality? A woman is R E W A R D E D for divorcing her husband. Hence why the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. Single mother kids have been associated with all sorts of mental issues.

there you go dude, you have the answer to everything. you know all the girls in your town/school/work without even meeting them and none of them are worth it. women are all evil and predatory and you're SO sure you could go get yourself chemically castrated. what have you got to lose, you dumb fucking goy?

how fucking young are u

women are the same across all age groups and all cultures

go get yourself castrated my dude. or admit MGTOW is a support group for incel nerds who think bitching like women will land them good women

>you ask these questions by looking for yourself in real fucking life
The only traditional women I have ever met in real life were at church, and since I'm not longer a believer and don't feel like turning my whole life into a huge lie those are not longer accessible to me.
My experience with basically every other women is that they're all a bunch of uninteresting degenerates.
Every girl I've met at uni has already had sex with multiple guys, abstaining isn't something women even seem to consider any more.
Women I've been friends with, while kind and funny people, never have any real passion or interests in things that don't fuel their own narcissism.
Maybe there are 1% of women out there that are still pure, but what's the point in trying to enter a relationship when they are undoubtedly going to be swayed by the values of the other 99% sooner or later?

again, you're justifying giving up. I can't tell you if there are pure qt virgins or where they are or if they'll eventually turn to shit but I can tell you you will never find out in a hugbox support group for demoralized men on the internet

if you are really interested in having kids for whatever reason then there is only one course of action, and the chance of getting divorce raped really should not even deter you. how that outweighs your fulfillment in having kids I have no idea

women arent the problem its the fact that they have rights, and the family courts are gynocentric bull shit. you dumpster fuck of a human

mgtow doesn't fit the profile of a jew run psyop

you didn't answer my question

why do you care? if more men go mgtow, doesnt that mean more pussy for you? shouldn't you be praising mgtows for stepping away?

ill grant you that the ones that bitch and moan over women are super fucking annoying and should probably eat a bullet if they dont get over it

>again, you're justifying giving up.
Yeah, I completely agree that that's what MGTOW is.
I don't know if I really fit into that category or not though.
I'm not giving up because I feel like I don't need women and I'm better off on my own, I'm just starting to realise the lack of feasibility of finding a non-degenerate partner and beginning to face reality.
I want nothing more than to find a loyal traditional wife, I just feel that society in it's current state is stacked against that ever happening.

>prevents the birth of white babies
>not a jew run psyop
rly makes u think

This. This so fucking much.

Remember these are allegedly the men that everyone says are scummy and will never get laid anyways so why the fuck would anyone care if they do their own thing?
Both chads and women should be grateful these man are choosing to check out of the game (which you guys just lost).

>inb4 some fag reposts the same counter-meme that was obviously created by a butthurt faggot or kike who doesn't want to do any work in his life

MGTOW is going to move into the workforce, it has already started.
If a man does not have a family to support, there is no reason to sacrifice his time in a meaningless job.
Divorced men are still required to sacrifice themselves, because not paying child support results in jail time.
You can skip the bullshit by not having kids, and working part time to support your hobbies.

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for those who say mgtow is a jewish trick, wouldnt the real jewish trick look something like this:

date girl- pay for everythign
marry her - huge wedding cost, cost of rings, cost of dress, any other expenses
buy house- its expensive
have kids- pay thousands for each one to grow up
get divorced- lawyers take all your shit, and you owe alimony AND child support as your wife lies about you in the family courts
you eventually work yourself to death for kids who hate you and an ex wife who keeps taking your money
or you kill yourself

aw man, i just cant see why men arent getting married anymore. i guess their just a bunch of cucks who need to man up, right guys?

I'm in a similar boat. I ONLY care about sex for procreation. And since I'm going that way I also want a virgin so I don't get any STDs. Any other intimacy contract does not interest me. Before the 60s my preferences were the norm. Now it's realistically impossible to find a woman that fits this criteria.

I really don't know if that's the proper alternative to MGTOW either. I kind of think it's less about marriage and procreation and more about men not being able to find a good female companion. still, either way, nothing short of curtailing their rights or completely overhauling our culture will ever change the general dating scene.

I don't know man, maybe I want to help and I view MGTOW as a palliative rather than a cure. and if you want to fix women you have to fix the men.

>people post the same exact meme in every single MGTOW thread
>upset people respond to it with the exact same meme every time

>men will go their own way
>they'll stop contributing to the economy or helping empower their nation

Is that supposed to be a good thing, you dense fuck?

no, there is nothing wrong with men or women. this is just how women are, mgtow have accepted this and walked away. the problem is the courts, have you noticed that is the thing almost all mgtow talk about?

if men had authority over their families like they used to, there would be no mgtow; or at least an unnoticeable amount.

its admirable that you wish to help, but shaming men doesn't do that we aren't women

I meant like the way it's propagated not the end goal. You don't see movies glamorouzing the lifestyle

Exactly, and all of that drains you of resources while introducing a couple more degenerates into the world with your genes.
Unless you can find a virgin traditional wife getting married is completely futile, anyone who's had a taste of the cock carousel will surely want to later return once she starts getting bored of you.

SHUT IT...........

The way I view anti-MGTOW men is like I'm sitting on a rocking chair across from a river, enjoying the scenery, when suddenly, a group of angry men appear on the opposite banks of the river and begin holding up little pieces of trash they picked off the ground. They shout to me, "you fucking loser! Look at these diamonds we found! If you weren't a loser and tried hard, you could find a diamond like we did!" When I gawk and inform them that they picked up trash not diamonds, they laugh maniacally and hurl more insults my way. I just keep rocking and waiting for them to carry off the trash. The river looks better once they leave.

No one ever said it's a good thing. It's just a thing that could happen.

well yeah they all talk about divorce rape but also how women are all coalburning nonvirginal liberals and roasties and whatnot. they clearly take issue with the quality of women because otherwise women wouldn't be initiating divorces. I'm not saying I know how to fix men/women either, it will probably take natural collective efforts and not some meme idea I could just create and spread from Sup Forums.

I'm not saying its good or bad, I'm just saying that is the projection of the future. The decline in birth rates and marriage is happening for a reason. There is no point to play russian roulette and get married. Without having a family to support, there is no reason to bust your ass off for the man and collect shekels.

You can't "fix" men and women - unless you use some SciFi gene editing shit. You can only fix the system.

women wouldn't be initiating divorces if they a) had no rights, or b) were shamed for it like they were in the past

>you're asking if any white women at all are worth it
I didn't ask that. I asked what I am supposed to do with my 130+ IQ white genes when there are no viable white women there. So, what do you suppose I should do? The reasons are irrelevant, I could live in a place with few women such as Alaska for example or I could be socially inept.

Is it not better for me to breed with a suitable woman of another racial background instead of not breeding at all?

so get an Asian waifu

I'm actually talking to a cute poo right now. But I don't care about race mixing. My question is theoretical in nature and aimed at the posters that argue against MGTOW from a standpoint of racial purity.

Considering men with an IQ of 130+ are like 10 times more prevalent than women with the same IQ I'd say the pickings are slim.

right, if MGTOW were a reactionary political movement rather than a hugbox I would have a lot more respect for it

>when there are no viable white women there
what? I live in a state where whites are literally a minority and there are viable women here. also racemixing is a really good way of giving your kids identity problems and liberal ideologies.

the only this is, if you do this you have to stay in the country she is from. cant bring her back home or she will turn out like the shitty locals

MGTOW isn't political. If you want politics look at the MRAs. Trust me you won't respect them after looking at them for 5 seconds.

>if MGTOW were a reactionary political movement rather than a hugbox I would have a lot more respect for it

MGTOW philosophy is "this is how roasties are, ideally cut all contact and wait for artificial wombs".

The reactionary political movement is called MRA.

Race isn't important, all men are demonized in family court. You can make pure white babies, just don't expect to be able to raise them.

>tfw tested 150
>tfw found woman tested twice at 135 and 170(wtf!)
>tfw she's ancient and hasn't been fertile in decades
I'm with her anyway since I'm too degenerate to raise kids right. And I've never had a happier or more stable relationship than this one

>MGTOW
>getting anything

MRA is even more ineffective. Its mostly beta mean looking for a leader. I was subscribed to the sub and I never saw them try to push bills or get people elected or anything it was just whining like women.

MRA's are useless cucks, their hearts are in the right place but they will never get anything done. as long as women are the majority of voters they will never win

Their most notable leader is a woman (karen straughan)... Kind of says it all right there.

I know...

There was a girl who made a documentary about MRAs, long story short, she made the film about herself like a typical women. Nobody takes men seriously.

kek

>what? I live in a state where whites are literally a minority and there are viable women here.
There are areas in Germany where most young people move away from. The ones that stay are rather lower class and tend to be male.

Other factors also apply to shorten the supply of viable women. Most women for example want to have a career before they have children, especially the high IQ women. I see little point in starting a one child family with a 34+ year old woman, honestly.

Consider for a moment the situation as a hypothetical. What to do as a high value white male when there are not enough high value white women around?

>identity problems
Don't care. My kid is my kid and therefore German by upbringing and birth. European nations define themselfes by culture, not by race. It's a product of being surrounded by other cultures from the same race.

>liberal ideologies
If my kids turn out to be brain dead idiots, I have failed as a parent and I will sponsor their emigration to the US.

Yeah, it's social engineering to end white people.

[citation needed]

Who also happens to be a dyke.

how?

its almost like feminists in disguise have infested MRA's

She is married and has at least one child. Is she in an open "relationship" with a woman?

Sup Forums and MGTOW have fundamentally incompatible ideologies.

MGTOW are individualistic and do not hold the concept of a white ethnostate in any particular regard. Nor are they particularly concerned as a whole with reproducing or forming a family. These are modern men just trying to live their lives, without any overarching sense of purpose.

Sup Forums are collectivists with strong family values and the desire to bring about white ethnostates. Unlike MGTOW who have a "live and let live" attitude, Sup Forums are very much concerned with how other men live their lives, because their dream of a white ethnostate requires other men live their lives as Sup Forums dictates.

Most of the ideological friction between Sup Forums and MGTOW comes down the duties of a man. Sup Forums believes a man has a duty to his people. MGTOW do not believe a man has a duty to anyone, except to himself. When they argue, they do so by appealing to an unshared sense of duty. Sup Forums argues that MGTOW have failed their country/people/ancestors/themselves as males by giving up on the dream of marrying and reproducing. MGTOW argue that Sup Forumsfags are deluding themselves by pursuing modern women, and thus allowing themselves to be shamefully exploited. Because we are arguing over very deeply held moral beliefs (which aren't likely to change any time soon), very little progress is being made on either side.

Another major source of disagreement is on the nature of women. Both sides agree that women are inherently manipulative and self-serving harpies, but Sup Forums believes they can be redeemed by placing them in a wholesome society ruled by strong male figures. MGTOW believe that women can never be redeemed, although their activities may be suppressed in a stricter society. Thus, Sup Forums blames weak, modern men for the current relational schism, as they have let women run amok. MGTOW blames female nature, though concedes that a different society could ameliorate much of the problems and make women tolerable (at best).

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Yeah so weird.

She's openly "bisexual" but you can tell from the way she talks about it that she's actually a lesbian.

Very good insight user

this is a fair assessment

>Sup Forums are collectivists
To the chopper with you.

then go to where they are. and like another user said, you're not really going to find many women at all in the extremes of IQ. and there are plenty of studies showing women can have kids in their 30s without suffering any risks of complications or affecting the kids.

and if you're one of those cucks who pretend culture and race are separate then I recommend you look more into the subject before making a lifelong decision for someone else. cultures are developed by races and ethnicities and races and ethnicies correspond to gene pools. you can trace everything back to genes.

The solution is too obvious. The polyamorous man has to be forced into either being monogamous or be destroyed. We outnumber these men 10 to 1. Roasties will hate it, but this is what must happen. Shut down the cock carousel.

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shut down the cock carousel by slut shaming, that is all. shame is how women were controlled in the past, it will work now

It's understandable given the breakdown of the family and absolute state of women as a consequence of feminism, but ultimately a blue pill
That is to say, to be red pilled is to accept difficult truths, and the blue pill is the easy way out

The thing is, we all know that you desperately want to get laid. You can type a fuckin 3,000 word Harvard level essay and have 150 IQ and a fuckin law degree, and we will still know that deep down you really wish you were fucking pic related's face, pussy, tits, and every other hole of her body.

A movement to channel lone males energy from going full ISIS on socialists back to cuckservatism.

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how is mgtow bluepill? especially when you said

>to be redpilled is to accept dificult truths

mgtow is the acceptance that women are this way, your post confuses me

No, that's just you, because you put pussy on a pedestal. I've been in enough relationships to know that fucking the same woman over and over again becomes as boring and routine as fapping. And being MGTOW does not prevent you from getting laid. That's a myth. It is a decision not to be in -relationships-.

>mfw holes are all a woman has to offer a man

Mgtow is about swearing off women. Red-pill is learning their true way and using that knowledge to form a successful relationship.

Unfortunately, women are still a vital part of raising children and a functioning household.

It isn't difficult to accept if you've been around women your entire life. Mgtow is the easy way out and contributes to white genocide
True, you should also shame fatties and soy boys

Getting laid cost $15 (even less if you live close to ukraine, where median income is $12/month and median wealth is around $200).

If you have nothing else to offer than getting laid - you are gonna get ISIS`d. No amount of CGTOW narrative will help you. Lord Jesus is the greatest.

Her body is out of proportion.

Thanks for proving to us that's all you think a woman has to offer.... you ass.
You're the dumbest roastie poster yet.

My friends wife sucked my dick on his couch when he was passed out drunk int the other room
I'm not even sure she remembers, but she still flirts with me
I don't think I would ever get married

but why would i want a relationship whem im either going to be falsely acused of rape or divorce raped? and lets say i somehow manage to be one of the tiny percentages of marriages that last, i dont have authority over my wife and kids. again what is the point? i think we all just want the same thing, some of us just gave up on that dream after seeing that the risk was just not worth the reward

>written in broken english
wow so convincing

>all these (you)'s from one post

Virgintows BTFO

Truly a rhetorical genius and a master debater.

>implying women have more to offer
aside from HER children of course

>blocks your path

Hey user, is Chad home?

>just pretending to be retarded.

The sign is a picture with an erect penis, that has been put in a yellow(toxic) box.

Good essay. Put graphically, Sup Forums identifies more with the Nazi flag, not the Pirate flag.

>The sign is a picture with an erect penis, that has been put in a yellow(toxic) box.

>95% of marriages end within 10 years
>Almost all divorces initiated by women
>Women are gluttonous sluts with no self control and society cheers them on as they down another load
Yeah I get it and it fucking sucks