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Can he save super?
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Henry White
You cannot go against toryiama's outline.
Trunks will get his asspull in the manga too
Anthony Garcia
first for trunks
Chase Baker
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Carson Allen
>Youtubefag
Thomas Howard
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Jace Turner
First they change his hair color
Then he becomes the hero of the arc
Trunks can't catch a brake
Jayden Ramirez
youtube is a cool site, stop hating on things just because
Gavin Harris
Eli James
Anyone has that fanart of Piccolo reacting to porn?
Carter Brown
I mean it was actually got good for a few episodes then they kinda just shit on everything they built up and ruined it, whoever is writing this shit is the corniest mother fucker
Ryan Wright
Its not asspull if its explained which toyotaro will do like always
Jeremiah Peterson
>3 SUPPORTERS
Alexander Bell
I really hated last episode but this is pure autism
Levi Diaz
Jose, his mom and dad.
Carter Martin
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Zachary Robinson
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Ryder Smith
If you ignore irrelevant complaints (like muh writing), this is a damn good scene.
John Morales
Reminder that the manga is basically Toyble OC with minimal Toriyama supervision, and that he also considers the anime a continuation of his manga:
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Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
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Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?
Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.
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Interviewer:
> Between getting the outline and the final phase, what is the most difficult part of making the manga?
Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!
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Toriyama (After the DBS anime announcement):
> “Dragon Ball Super is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc."
> "You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"
Angel Cox
Episode was fucking god like animated.
The writing was pure fanfic bs
Colton Rogers
MUH FEATS
MUH POWER LEVELS
MUH VEGITO
Levi Hernandez
> People are actually complaining about Trunks' Spirit Bomb-Blade
I thought it was pretty cool though?
Trunks gets a badass technique AND the day wasn't saved by Goku
You guys are no fun...
Dominic Foster
So what's the verdict on post-manga stuff?
GT: Shit
Battle of Gods: Good
BoG arc: Meh
Resurrection 'F': Shit
F arc: Shit
Champa arc: Meh
Zamasu arc: Started off great, turned to meh
Zachary Ortiz
10/10
Isaac Cooper
Honestly I wish they just did bi-yearly movies instead of a new series
Henry Davis
The writing isn't irrelevant. I think anyone would agree that it's a cool-ass moment. It's well-animated. The soundtrack is playing to great effect. Trunks is finally in charge of saving his own future. He's having a great verbal exchange with Zamasu that's cathartic.
The writing leading up to this moment just works against it when it should have complemented it. That's why it elicits such a negative response. People are the most angriest about something when they care. This was close to perfect, with the vehicle to drive it being the one true shortcoming.
Andrew Butler
Bless toyotaro.
He is fucking goat.
Every battle in the manga looks better then the anime besides hit vs goku.
I gotta admit ssblue kaioken was hella doubt even though it makes no sense.
Isaac Wright
Can't wait to see this technique in the video games
Luis Hill
Gohan's highschool hair was his best style
Ayden Howard
Why did Vegeta watch porn with Piccolo?
Tyler Brooks
>BoG meh?
Retelling or the movie?
Movie was dope and the retelling wasnt all that bad besides ep5.
Nathan Cruz
Didn't the same thing happen to Goku in movie 7?
Brandon Sanchez
Finally some one on Sup Forums who gets it... there's not many of us here. I'm glad I held on. Thanks user
Ian Barnes
Posting based Naotoshi Shida
Nathaniel Ward
this
his "ultimate powerup" ruined it
Luis Hall
Can't disagree with that, it was all really time compressed compared to the usual pacing. But I still don't get why people are THAT mad over it, I mean, it's Super.
Matthew Peterson
>Battle of Gods: Good
>BoG arc: Meh
Jaxson Martin
>People are actually complaining about Trunks' Spirit Bomb-Blade MADE BY ACCIDENT THANKS TO THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
Fix'd
Nathan Murphy
>save budget for an important episode
>episode isn't very good
Every time.
Chase James
SSJ Red makes even less sense. This transformation was one time only - Goku shouln't be able to transform into that again. He absorbed godly ki and now can use it through SSJ Blue. Toyotaro shouldn't change that.
Also
>SSJ Blue 10% rule
>mfw
Josiah Wright
Because people had expectations of it being good for once, and then it just half-assed what people wanted to see and rushed to the conclusion for no reason, all of this being after multiple eps (and an unnecessary trip to the future) of purely wasted time that could've been better spent fleshing this sort of shit out.
Charles Murphy
Anyone knows the soundtrack playing during this part?
Lucas Carter
>SSJ Red makes even less sense. This transformation was one time only
Never said in the manga
Thomas Richardson
>expecting autistic manchildren to have fun
DB fanbase has always been shit like that.
Isaac Fisher
I'm in the camp that picked up Super to see Trunks in action. He is one of my favorites, after all. I don't really feel like I got the Trunks I was hoping for. That isn't nostalgia talking, either. He's very different in a lot of respects. During the week-long wait for each new episode, I started up on Super from the very beginning and caught up. I knew Super was bad from the get-go, so I had an advantage. I could enjoy the good it did, even if it kind of shat all over established canon, etc. But it seems like a lot of the newcomers aren't aware of how bad Super is. There's a new crowd now with Crunchyroll and Daisuki being a thing. It'll only get worse when the dub rolls out. Super's writing is indefensible, and I think that anger for it is thus inevitable.
Bentley Peterson
Yeah, I guess, but after 60+ episodes of mostly mediocre stuff I would have thought everyone's expectations were low enough to just enjoy the scene.
Evan Lee
Vegito got his ass kicked here.
Bentley Lopez
Admit it you wouldn't have been happy if Vegito won either
Cooper Cooper
Toyotaro switched the roles it seems.
In the manga : - ssblue=ssg / ssbluekaioken= ssblue
Thats how I see it but who knows how he will potray the black/zamasu fight
Ayden Adams
>It's db, just have fun and ignore the asspulls xD
kill yourself
Bentley Harris
Doesn't matter. It was heavily implied in BoG and Resurrection 'F'. I think Toriyama wanted it to be one time only special transformation with vague (possibly unlimited) power level. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to make it time limited.
Robert Barnes
Why do people talk more about Z than the original DB?
Austin Sanchez
Wtf how can someone like trunks beat zamasu who was fighting a good game against vegito in ssblue.
Buuhan got absolutely reckt and mocked in the manga.
You cant say trunks>vegito isnt bullshit
Bentley Torres
It's from Kai.
Andrew Williams
>i have autism and get mad as fuck about a retarded animu that is aimed at children
Jaxon James
To the user from last thread:
It doesn't get better. Even when it does look better, that only last moments, and the animation still has its issues. Super's best scenes are usually done by a freelancer that admits to not knowing anything about martial arts, and it shows. His sequences are fast, oscillating, and they have repeated effects. It looks fluid, but nothing's really happening until he slows down. The problem with him slowing down is that then you can see the error in his choreography. It's animation with an ADHD quality to it. Z's best scenes had a weight to them that isn't present in Super.
Compare this: youtube.com
to this: youtube.com
The second fight is slower and far more grounded, which is expected of equal powers. But each engagement has a story in terms of choreography, and the destruction of the environment is animated. There are a lot of small details that add up to give you more immersion.
Cooper Watson
>Z had better choreography
Yeah ok
Gabriel Diaz
There's nothing to talk about. It was perfect - no flaws to discuss
William Moore
This arc had its minor issues, but it did give us:
> Future Trunks returns
> Old DB content makes a comeback: Adult Mai, Yajirobe, The Mufaba, etc
> Trunks x Mai
> SoL episodes with Future Trunks
> Mysterious villain, and beautiful smug king: Black
> Villain didn't have a generic motivation
> Arc had the best fight scenes this show has had so far
> Timeline shenanigans (not seen since Cell)
> Not Goku Time (or even the Goku/Vegeta Show)
> Trunks development
> Vegetto returns
I thought it was a pretty good arc overall, and probably one of the best arcs recently.
BoG (Movie): Great
RoF (Movie): Good
BoG (Toei): Meh
RoF (Toei): Bad
Universe Tourney arc: Okay
Zamasu arc: Great
Hunter Sanchez
>I have autism and enjoy a retarded animu that is aimed at children
Luke Miller
daily reminder that gary sturankusue managed to get from ssj3 levels to ssb vegetto levels within a span of only 2 days and that's without training or some shit. anyone who still shamefully defends the king of asspulls should go back to plebbit and they should definitely kill themselves.
Kayden Powell
Z is the first thing that was aired in the US, also people being too young.
Andrew Phillips
A good chunk of the people that are into this franchise started from Z rather than DB. Dragonball didn't air in the United States (and some other regions of the world) until after Z was done airing.
Nolan Clark
Thank you
Lucas Gomez
>But each engagement has a story in terms of choreography, and the destruction of the environment is animated. There are a lot of small details that add up to give you more immersion.
It's called filler, or did you not know they had to slow the story progression due to the manga not being far up enough for them to proceed with the fights?
Mason Ross
>I have autism and shitpost about an animu that is aimed at children
John Wood
Z's best animator, Tadayoshi Yamamuro, still works on Super:
Nathan Edwards
Zamasu's VA was the best thing about the entire arc. His acting was top tier.
Kayden Turner
>and some other regions of the world
I'm prety sure it was only in USA. Here in Europe we had DB first and DBZ second. And I'm pretty sure latin america had it the same
Caleb Phillips
So are we actually gonna have a time skip? Or are Goten, Trunks, Pan gonna remain little forever?
Juan Gray
Not the first time a technique was learned by accident
Hell, Goku learned Kamehameha just by imitating and waving his hands around. Trunks did the same with the Mufaba.
And Trunks being a Saiyan-hybrid has more potential than Goku
Jacob Phillips
I know you do, what's your point?
Luis Clark
Barely. I wish he was around more often. I enjoy seeing his stuff with modern animation.
Agreed. He sold me on Zamasu just absolutely losing his shit. 10/10 performance.
Asher Hernandez
The problem here is Trunks didn't even know wtf the spirit bomb was, and made it by accident
Tyler Jones
Goku saw roshi performing the kamehameha.
Trunks learned from the piccolo video.
Trunks using the genkidama a technique he never saw was straight up ass pull.
The guy was surprised when he saw the blue ball floating
Luke Lee
>POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
Trunks took power from Android 8, and other random people
It's a spirit bomb. Of course he gets help from friends, but it wasn't his only source of power
Jordan Edwards
but it was not him who created that genkidama, it was friendship
Caleb Gray
What was the point of vegito, like at all
Ryder Hall
to show off how powerful gary sturankusue has become.
Bentley Nguyen
>I have no job and life and rant about an animu that is aimed at children
Jacob Hall
Zamasu's transformation was unstable. Trunks took advantage of his incredulity to split his two halve, and although I don't watch the PV's, I wouldn't be suprised if this just de-fused him and only killed black given future Zamasu's imortallity, making the Mafu-ba relevant again.
Jason Hill
Trunks learned everything in the blink of an eye
>What is Final Flash
>What is Galick Gun
>What is SSJ2
>What is SSJ Blue-Yellow (seriously - what is that shit?)
>What is Mafuba
>What is Genki Dama
I wouldn't be surpised if he used Kamehameha to kill Zamasu. Or even better Final Kamehameha.
Fucking Mary Sue
Jaxson Bell
fan-service?
James Miller
Welcome normalfag.
Now get out
Nathan Campbell
>Trunks learned everything in the blink of an eye
So he became Rey?
Ayden Martin
It deatroyed merged zamasu body.
Only thing remaining is zamasu spirit which is a dark cloud
Angel Hughes
He animates most of the endings (animated every one except the recent one), as well as some of the new opening sequences at the start of each arc, not to mention that he's responsible for promotional art and he may be working secretly on a potential DB movie or something, that's probably why he's had few action scenes.
Brody Williams
Not even Trunks understood what the fuck was going on. He used the genkidama by "accident".
Brody Flores
Yeah, that sounds about right. All of that stuff tends to look good. I think Super would benefit a lot from consistent correction for the newbies. Shame the schedule is so unaccommodating.
Owen Cox
Kikuchi's score is dull, repetitive and a snoozefest that takes all the excitement out of the show with it's incredibly dated sounding music.
It makes it sound dated and older than it is. A series that ran into mid 90's yet has dreary 70's sounding music. There's no intensity in the soundtrack at all, it kicks all of the excitement out of the show entirely by having this monotonous music that sounded the same throughout the 10 years it aired.
It's no surprise to me that they replaced it when it came to the American broadcast and Kai.
The Kai score was far better, plagiarized or not.
The Faulconer score builds up the tension and excitement like the Japanese version never could. I've seen some of my favourite scenes like Goku turning SSJ3, Vegeta using the Final Flash, Gohan killing Cell etc in Japanese and the music takes away all of that away.
It also makes the show seem much more modern and recent whereas the Japanese has the opposite effect and makes it seem so very old.
It fit Dragon Ball kinda well but not Dragon Ball Z at all.
Daniel Ward
>I am an autistic sperg who gets triggered by shitposts about my animu that is aimed at children
Christian Ross
Don't forget Vegetto/Black Spirit Sword. He learned that in the last minutes of episode
Logan Butler
Aiden Long
Oh, you mean channeling his ki into his sword? Like he's been doing since day one?
I can't believe quads were wasted on this.
Michael Adams
OLD FAGGOTS CRYING MORE THAN THE KIDS.
Austin Carter
no it isnt, he didnt even charge it, i sooner believe thare was a small fairy hiden somewhere that was casting genkidama than trunks
Jonathan Harris
That's a different thing. This time he created energy sword using his aura - that's Black and Vegetto technique
Angel Nguyen
so if gohan became strong again and beat someone, would Sup Forums cry too?
Oliver Nguyen
Every arc of Super is just one big toy commercial.
Nolan Sanchez
explain to me the difference between ki and aura.