The European Identitarian Movement - a honey pot?

I have been trying to find a way to combat the Globalists for a while now, and stumbled across the Identitarian Movement online. So far they have localized groups in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.

According to their recruiter they are looking to expand into other countries, including Norway, due to "a lot of interest".

They make you fill out a somewhat lengthy application form, but once you hit submit, you'll be notified that if you hold any sort of NatSoc sympathies, now or in the past, you will automatically disqualify. The same thing applies if you have any intolerance towards Jews or post "racist" content on social media.

Well, suffice to say that this made my Jew-radar tingle. What could possibly be the goal of a group like this? They claim they want to preserve the White race and culture, but refuse to acknowledge the driving force behind Globalism and Cultural Marxism?

Are the Identitarians just another honeypot to keep the White man from gathering any resistance towards mass immigration and Marxism?

You tell me..

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Probably, sounds like a bunch of bandwagon riders to me.

>Is X a honey pot
If you ever find yourself asking that question, the answer is yes.

>hurr durr everything is a honeypoot
>muh paranoia
why should it be?
honeypots advertise stuff that people go to jail for.

Figured as much.. I had a dream of some kind of Nationalist movement stopping the foreign hordes, but I guess it's too soon..

Their videos showed promise (by e-celeb Southern): youtube.com/watch?v=QbbSv0m8CGI

But if it was a honeypot they would be encouraging people to do extreme shit. I don't think you've using that word correctly.

The Russia hacker is right. Not everything is a honeypot. Just don't openly go along with groups that call for violence for their solution.

Well, I don't know of what else to call it.. If they have member lists, then they are in theory just data collection centers for anyone holding nationalist views.

What would you call it?

Yes goy, everything is a honeypot, stay at home

Well, how do they expect to further their cause if they don't acknowledge the reason why Western nations are in this mess to begin with? It seems counter-productive.

I just want to channel my urge to stop mass immigration in a constructive way.. Is that really so bad?

We are the only one doing something for fuck's sake... autists larping as nazis will never take us anywhere

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children."

How is this in any way opposed to what the Identitarians claim to be working towards?

if the WN movement takes a natsoc turn then it is way WAY harder to get any public credibility. Remember that government agent that went in the crowd at charloetteville with a nazi flag that was obviously brand new (you can tell by the folding marks on it)? This is their way of subverting the movement from the inside. Step away from nazi shit and preach healthy WN. Ramzpaul warned us about this

Tell me about those really successful modern movements that blame the Jews.

Overwatch was shut down for a reason.

Here's the thing; I don't mind abandoning my NatSoc views, so long as the White race is preserved. The problem is that they will not accept anyone that hold any NatSoc views now or in the past, which means that they cannot possibly be in this for the betterment of the race.

As for the Charlottesville thing, I agree fully. It's obviously subverted.

If you want to know who is in charge, just look at who you're not allowed to criticize.

?

It's 100% our goal.
We simply use "native European" instead of "white" (it's the same thing, but white is too american) and we don't use nazi symbols.

Then instead of rejecting NatSoc people, get them on your team and help further the same goal?

You're missing the point, people have blamed the Jews for ages but it hasn't lead to shit has it. It doesn't matter who is doing the actual opposing, rather that we try to deal with the problems. We don't need some kind of special protocol to deal with elites who happen to be Jewish.

>in a constructive way
Like what? DUDE FUCK DA JOOS LMAO way? What are you doing to save white race user? Beside posting on Sup Forums?

We "reject" them (not here in Italy) because most of them has the incredible urge to use roman salute or swastikas everywhere, helping those who oppose us. If you can abandon those symbology, you are absolutely welcome

>hold any NatSoc views now or in the past,
as long as they cant trace any in your past you should be safe. Clear you twitter etc and you should be fine. As long as youre not an e-celeb most natsocs will be fine

I don't want my son to grow up in a nation filled with crime, poverty and a lower standard of living than I had.

Other than that I am trying to get my own life in order before I start preaching to others to change theirs. I'm talking about financially, spiritually, physically and intellectually.

Not according to your recruiter.

Well, they asked and I answered honestly (I'll post a picture with exactly what I said).

Sorry, I cannot get past your symbol, I know it's some spartan-shield inspired stuff, but to me it just looks like a symbol out of Half-life or Overwatch

Any accomplishments so far? I've seen some banner drops but that's about it, up to now you're on par with 90s radical WNs in terms of that

It's a Lambda, that's all I know. Also it's not my symbol, as I was rejected for being a "Nazi".

>openly natsoc
dont do that user

I was always told that being honest was a virtue. Guess I learned my lesson.

Ah didn't get at first that you were asking about GI not promoting it

They remind me of something in-between proud boys and IE

I am a right wing traditionalist, do I get in?
>no did you not read anything in the thread
no

it is, and there are sacrifices that come with being virtuous

>Quote from this article:
dw.com/en/german-right-wing-identitarians-becoming-radicalized/a-38032122

Fiss, who belongs to the leadership of the German movement, said the group rejected all association with the far-right. "Of course we see ourselves as patriotic youth tied to our homeland, but we show a clear separation from far-right extremism," he said. "So if far-right extremists try to take up contact, we refuse them immediately. We have often emphasized our rejection of the nationalism of the 19th and 20th centuries - for us patriotism cannot be equated to that."

they reject the right wing, while trying to the white race?

Gay
Sage

Ironic, isn't it?

Retarded, isn't it?

>We have often emphasized our rejection of the nationalism of the 19th and 20th centuries - for us patriotism cannot be equated to that."

So what kind of patriotism is theirs? Genuinely curious.

Milk toast "stop musleems" patriotism like PJW and Tommy Robinson? Because I can't think of any other nationalism ways left when we take 19th century out of the equation (hell and 20th too)

Spot on.

You should ask , that user seems to be a member.

Hey it's the Overwatch logo

TF2 is far superior you blizzdrone

Also what's hilarious is american right wing advocates drooling over a simple banner drop in middle of London over some bridge like it's the very tide of politics and culture changing after that, while overlooking the very activism done in USA is heaps beyond that of Europe (I'd blame the laws too, much much easier to be thrown behind bars in EUSSR)

Not a honey pot. We need to know about YOU because you will represent US.

You know how every other movement gets caught up in a storm because some stupid member chants heil Hitler or something and if they are just 1% of the movement the mainstream makes that 1% become 100%.

You act as though the driving force is 100% Jewish and 100% scientifically proven. That is not so.

The movement focuses on the Muslim question.

>Are the Identitarians just another honeypot to keep the White man from gathering any resistance towards mass immigration

It's against that though.

Attend a meeting as a "normie" you don;t need to prove anything then because you are not part of the group. See what you think, there is nothing to hide. Even pretend to be left wing if you like and want to know what the movement is about.

They are egalitarians. Separatistic egaliarians, but still egalitarians. Not sure if they are universalists. From the writings and advertising it doesn't seem to be the case, but egalitarians are cancer nevertheless

left wing white supremacy movement... got it.

You can't yet have a mass-appeal movement that genuinely calls out the jews.

We're getting there. More and more people are finally beginning to see where the fuck it's all coming from, but we haven't quite reached it yet - it's still taboo.

Spartan symbol. The defense of the few against the many.

it doesn´t matter if they are anti nazi & zionist

join & infiltrate them from within

just be a cryptofascist, never reveal your powerlevel, just go along with their bullshit & influence some of the other people etc

There is no "wing" to the movement; that's a route to nowhere.

>oppose mass immigration to europe
>oppose islam
>preserve european culture
>preserve whites as a race

That's it in a nutshell, forget about left/right wing politics.

Moron. Like the FPÖ you distance the movement from that individual and it is enough. Those who shouted Nazi before will keep shouting Nazi, no matter how moderate you become, as you are still right of Gramsci

a bunch of faggots, the austrian guy is just looking for election, it is a meme.

look:
>Train with Family
>Drill with Neighbors
>Fight with Pride

oh ok, so these greasy fucks are somehow going to remove 2,786,635 mussies, peaceful or otherwise? thought not.

You're referring to IDENTITY EVROPA? They're doing their part, but for some reason they only accept Americans, lol.

Then learn to differentiate between National Socialists and "Nazis". Sup Forums has been trying to teach people about this for years.

>You act as though the driving force is 100% Jewish and 100% scientifically proven. That is not so.
Purely a coincidence that the Jews initiate every major war (all sides) since the dawn of time, then?

>The movement focuses on the Muslim question.
Muslims are a symptom, not the cause. Mass immigration is the result of Jewish wars for oil destabilizing the region. In addition to that we have Cultural Marxism working the home front, softening up the masses to accept more and more refugees.. Or are they called migrants now? The narrative changes so often.

I was once on a meeting of the Identitarians. Mostly a bunch of Libertarian fucktard hipsters, scared to tackle the racial problems. and the core of European problems. The "leaders" were mostly rich guys/students with their girlfriends who somehow made themselves "the spokesmen" of the entire organization. Basically they expect "the herd" to do as they say, even though most of their suggestions were stupid and not even thought through. If someone suggests something different, they are automatically rejected. It was pathetic.
The identiterians are like the antifa in many ways. Rich kids, LARPING as self-proclaimed leaders and protectors of our nations, while MOST of them do it because they want to be well-known and perhaps make a quick buck over the organization. Fuck them and their Libtard, kosher right wing policies with no real essence behind them. Also, I found it dissapointing that they had no interrest on making a march for white working families and workers rights. None of those assholes know what a hard days work is about, since they are mostly all in their mid 20's and still never had a propper job in their lives. Just like the ANTIFA.

Each can have their own opinion. Factually speaking, UKIP had great success by representing the average person and being distant from right wing politics.

That's what this movement is about. Average normal Europeans. Normality. Europe for Europeans as it has always been.

Any movement that isn't explicitly anti-jewish eventually becomes jew-controlled.

Milo was the attempt at it with people here. I wouldn't be surprised if spencer turns out to be jewish too. They're both very obviously controlled opposition, and thankfully have been largely rejected.

Part of the trouble with counter-semitic action is that it needs to be disentangled from national socialism. National socialism acts like dead weight; as a label or identity, it should be avoided. Take the best parts of the ideology and use it. This isn't the 1930's - we don't need to wear the flags of an ideology that ultimately failed. If anything that's an indication that there's room for adaption and improvement.

Germany tried to take on the entire world before the entire world was able - let alone ready - to accept their understanding about the JQ.

They're /pol irl

>a containment group
hold back user, we hold posters on the street next month!
wait go-, i mean guys, lets all discuss economics for the evening!
>then
No meeting this week, call me next week
on and on ad infinitum

DIY lads, we'll all have a meetup when the time arrives, or not w/e

However you cannot deny that you will still be labeled white supremacists and not gather mass-appeal from the populace that is materialistically secure and will forever disavow anything that is even somewhat controversial, not even talking about support - they are too afraid to lose their social status

That being said - RW groups should try to target the disaffected whites and bridge the fucking gap between the intellectual-white collar white and the hard working blue collar white, and not cater to the leftist media and leftist brain which is a failed task in the very essence of it

yes ive been saying for long but nobody ever listens to me on this site... its the European version of the "alt right" (watch Vargs video on the alt right). Don't register, by doing so you are giving them all your info and they will make a profile for you (the jews) and you will be uploaded into a database of all people who could be potential criminals (even if you have no NS records and whatnot)

Well good luck on your path to finding a paramilitary group that will chant Hitlers slogans in the streets and hang people.

Meanwhile the rest of us just want to stop mass immigration and reverse Islam in Europe and promote European values and culture.

Not really IE, some right-wing personas

Identitarians i have a question for you: wouldn't you just bring us back to our 1950-1960's white societies and then the ride would start again.
Mass immigration is a symptom
You have to kill the disease

What country ?

>The problem is that they will not accept anyone that hold any NatSoc views now or in the past, which means that they cannot possibly be in this for the betterment of the race.

They're doing this to keep the skinhead retards/false flaggers/controlled opposition out. If you haven't made such views public it won't be a problem. If you start flying nazi flags at events, it will become a problem, and they'll kick you out.

They're doing the smart thing and controlling how they're viewed, to keep from giving the MSM and liberals ammunition against them - because as much as you may like nazi ideology, the general public simply isn't ready to accept it (and has in fact been highly indoctrinated against it literally since kindergarten to present).

Don't attack where your enemy is strong. Attack where he is weak. You're not going to get anywhere trying to fight that indoctrination head on.

You act as though I am not from pol. I know all about National Socialism.

Whatever Jews are doing is not hard fact, mass Islamic immigration is.

The biggest issue is halting the Islamic immigration. Can't fight a war on all fronts. I am sure you know that from ww2, hey?

Almost all Europeans can inentify with this issue.

They are not honey pot. They are however generally utter pussies (with honorable exception in France and some of the Germany).

Jews are mostly parasites. They instigate too of course but they are not coherent except fo their delusional beliefs of superiority. You simply give them too much credit. Their only chance has ever been feeding on the degeneracy of our very own people.

sorry - UKIP was shite and definitely not about the white briton (just look at their spokesperson Farage disavowing "rayciss white supreemists" like your average leftist)

How will reverse migration solve the fertility gap that will lead to the replacement of the european natives ?

I'm not going to knock them. Their goal is laudable, they're simply taking a different approach.

The more approaches, the better. Diversity is a strength after all.

>implying I'm a nazi. Nazis are lefty fucks and are the ones that should hang

they don't seem to get it, since their policies are kosher. the identiterians I got to know were Israel friendly faggots who would dare not to say anything against zionism. the only thing they know about is the immigration crisis, but there are so many other things where young white nationalists need to be active. workers rights, rights of young white families, anti faggotry and pro-life policies, economic alternatives to the globalist system..but those are all the things the Identiterians are not very interrested in. Fuck them and their hipster movement.

>(((normal)))
As written above egalitarians, and as it seems, universalistic egalitarians. A shame, but how could anyone expect something different than a """right wing""" Green party in its early stadium. Far well Europe, rest in peace national state. I'm disgusted

>Diversity is a strength after all.
What else did I expect from a leaf...

I hope you're right, Leaf. Even if we don't end up going full 1488, we need to be able to discuss all aspect of the current situation openly. To have a rational debate about all players on the field, including the Jews.

>join & infiltrate them from within

This goes against my principles. I will not become the thing I hate the most in my attempt to rid the World of Cultural Marxism.

>just be a cryptofascist, never reveal your powerlevel, just go along with their bullshit & influence some of the other people etc

I guess this is the way to proceed in the future. The irony is that people will still label me a racist and "Nazi" regardless of what I say.

Fair point.

Seeing as they have Spencer on board, I'm not surprised.

I fear the time for idle politics is gone, my friend. All sides of the political spectrum work towards the same globalist goal. Even Norway's most conservative party (FrP - The Progress Party) is centrist compared to even Sweden's openly NatSoc party (SD).


>This isn't the 1930's - we don't need to wear the flags of an ideology that ultimately failed.

I agree. I personally don't care HOW we save the White race, so long as the result is that my son has a future worth living.

Germany

>scared to tackle the racial problems

The movement is whites ONLY.

>since they are mostly all in their mid 20's

I'll let you in on a little secret... it's mainly a youth movement as the youth is future.

Your statement is like saying the toy store was full of children. It's nonsensical. They are youthful because it's a youth movement.

Once the greatest problem that faces us (Islam) has been defeated, other areas of what tries to take away what is ours will be addressed.

One step at a time.

>The biggest issue is kicking the muslims

Wait you would keep christian africans ?

Also if you focus on the mere symptom they would still find some way to fuck us

everything is a honey pot, no one has these views but federal agents, it'd be best if you just posted frogs and do funny ad campaign pranks to stick it to the globalist

its ok to be white xD
HWNDU season 4!
sweden islam flag!!
posting pepes on twitter!

these are what the REAL nationalist are doing, anyone who has these views and want to organize IRL are feds!

god, this is whole post is ultimate cringe

>controlled opposition
>ammunition to leftists and MSM (like you wouldnt be slandered by them anyway)
>appealing to normie
>some worthless platitudes

I used to have an italian friend that is a member of GI.

Actually broke our friendship because of optics faggotry.

>If you haven't made such views public it won't be a problem.

The worst I've done is post funny Hitler memes on Facebook and getting Zucced for it, in addition to sharing statistics and facts about current events.

Medically speaking you shouldn't treat the symptoms if you can cure the cause.

>How will reverse migration solve the fertility gap that will lead to the replacement of the european natives ?
Make White babies, user.

This

If you are from Italy FN adresses all of this issues (in a wrong manner)

>but there are so many other things where young white nationalists need to be active. workers rights, rights of young white families, anti faggotry and pro-life policies, economic alternatives to the globalist system..but those are all the things the Identiterians are not very interrested in.

Couldn't be more true

You my friend, are a shill. Farage is not going to chanting Sieg Heil, I am sorry. We are not racists here.

Promotion of European values and culture (radical feminism is not part of that) nor is the anti-male agenda. We don't have the solution to all problems but a start in the right direction is something positive.

I think that non europeans replacing europeans is a bigger problem than islam.

but if you turn up with a Confederate Ireland flag or the Starry Plough is that OK?

would it not help to have multiple groups demonstrating? Lefties wont talk with people they disagree with, the first thing should be an interview stating:
>Although we have differing methodologies of how to approach this situation, we feel that it would be against our European Values to exclude a group from protesting due >to political differences. We in no way support Nat Soc but as we are still in a relatively free country, we wish to preserve our traditions of dialogue and community spirit

that type of thing

The different between all those groups though is that the Identitarian Movement is for whites only.

Yet you would not accept anyone who denounce NatSoc, simply because they held such views in the past. The irony is that you would accept a Marxist, because that person would be closer to your mainstream appeal, right?

i know. i'm in my mid 20's also. i already finished college and i have a steady job. something the majority of the spokesmen of the identiterians don't have. one guy i know is 29 years old, still not even half way through his college, but he acts like he ate all the wisdom of the world.
also, their degrading look upon members of the Identiterian movement who don't come from wealthy families is also something that's quite disgusting.
They can be old or young, I don't care. Their policies are retarded and they are nothing but a bunch of rich hipster faggots who do what they do, mostly for self publicity. they are not real nationalists. Libertarian dipshits, waiting for an opportunity for their own bennefit. Whoever follows them is a sheep.

Fertility gap is solveable with a variety of legislative changes to reverse what caused it in the first place:

1. Mass education of women
2. Allowing women to work
3. Free/accessible birth control
4. No-fault divorce
5. Divorce and marriage laws in general being heavily anti-male
6. Massive amounts of estrogenic compounds in daily life
7. Increasingly poor lower/middle class who cannot afford to have children
8. Gay propaganda
9. Feminist propaganda

Get rid of these things and you fix the birthrates.
Even just getting rid of a few of these things would fix the birth rates.

With that said, birth rates still need to be controlled. We do not want 3.5 children per couple. We don't need massive populations in white countries, especially as we move towards mass automation. We need responsible long-term sustainable growth.

can you post a source for this claim, where is this stated

>we are not racist
You far worst. You deem every culture, every genetic composition equal. You are a metastasis of the status quo. Admit it, in fact you are not even against mudskins, its just marketing and story stelling for recruitment

How many Christian Africans are there in Europe?

If mass immigration was halted today, Mosques closed down and Islamic radicals jailed/deported we would be OK.

Nobody is advocating we remove 100% of non-whites from Europe.

They are a sophisticated slide organization purpose built to divert ambitions to harmless manageable approved actions. The organisers know the right is mobilizing and every group they can control into impotency is a win.
Read about Mr Big sting organizations
That is what they are.
Join anyone that addresses the JQ OPENLY.

>anyone who has these views and want to organize IRL are feds!

Welp. Looks like nothing is truly going to change then. We'll all just keep bitching as society collapses.

Let me put it another way: Can the MSM use what you've posted on faceberg/whatever to paint the entire movement with broadstrokes and label them nazis?

If the answer is 'no', then you're almost certainly good, barring recruiter autism.

I would really prefer it if you'd have posted the
>longing for a place I'm not even sure exists
picture instead, if you have it, this one is just outright depressing, bordering on defeatist. I feel the other one has a tint of idealism instead of resignation.

And good on you being an honest man.

That's all well and dandy, but even official numbers say that Whites will be a minority in their own countries in only a few years. Even if immigration is halted completely, the birth rate of the existing Muslims would far outweigh that of the native Whites.

I'm not bashing you for attempting to solve the issue at hand, merely pointing out the flaw in your reasoning.

>Medically speaking you shouldn't treat the symptoms if you can cure the cause.

I know you think this sounds reasonable here and normal. I can assure you posting Hitler speeches to convince European nations 99% of people will think you are crazy.

You are trying to ride a horse out of the stable that passed away last month. It's futile.

We must promote European values and when people accept them by the law of nature they will call out and attack those that work against said values.

Seems too slow, the ones behind mass migration&co would find another way to fuck countries up