Based Geert Wilders

>Welkom in Nederland Sinterklaas en ZWARTE Piet!
>Welcome to Holland, Santa Claus and BLACK Pete!

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black pete is the average spaniard

Zwarte Piet is best Piet.

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I laughed out loud at the way he put ZWARTE in all caps.

Happening! Pro ZWARTE Piet people have surrounded busses with Anti Zwarte Piet people!

>I laughed out loud at the way he put ZWARTE in all caps.
Of course he did, the whole discussion is about whether or not Piet should be black or not

Never understood what the story is with the nigger, probably because I never asked, but what's the deal with the nigger anyways

based zionist shill, die for israel goy

This. Nu-Sup Forums will just call you a Muslim or something though. Fucking bluepilled retards.

>Never understood what the story is with the nigger, probably because I never asked, but what's the deal with the nigger anyways
In short, Saint Nicholas was usually alone or accompanied by some demon/monster. In the nineteenth century, Saint Nicholas got a black servant (Zwarte Piet) to help him distribute the presents and to take bad children back to Spain. Of course, in recent times this character has become rather controversial because some consider it to be racist and a leftover from colonialism.

zwarte piet is racisme

en jij bent een flikker

oh boy analogue blackface?

Civic nationalism sure is beautiful.

>Saint Nicholas got a black servant (Zwarte Piet) to help him distribute the presents and to take bad children back to Spain
>take bad children back to Spain
If this is real, this is top tier 1800 bantz. How did Spain ever recover from this?

FC AAP

So is it because the Spanish Habsburgs used to rule you so you portray the Spanish as niggers because of it?

Pretty sure it’s just bants left over from the 80 years war. Top tier none the less.

Nope, Sinterklaas is portrayed to live in Spain, it has nothing to do with Spaniards being 'black"

that's actually pretty funny Spaniard bantz

But that's wrong though ?
The real story at least how the legend is told here is that the black guy was a children killer and got caught by angry mob
They were burning him alive when saint Nicolas came
He asked them why was he being burned for and they told him he attacked and killed children
So Saint Nicolas told them to stop that shit and he was going to punish him himself by making it his servant and make him help children
They stopped the fire but the guy was already all black from it and he never could recover his color back

Oh? So which one is right?

obvious shill is obvious

>Sinterklaas is portrayed to live in Spain
Oh... it's funny how each European country has a different Santa who is portrayed slightly differently.
The idea of the Dutch having a Spanish Santa is bizarre to me.

St Nicholas was Archbishop of Myra, Asia Minor, in the fourth century who, famous for his kindness to children, was later associated with Santa Claus.
All the rest is folklore and the legend differs from region to region.

Its honestly a mixture of both? I mean black pete was based of a moor in the first story

And the other one was the story on /how/ he became a saint by stopping a child murder

yet i have never heard those two conflated like but it is a intresting twist.

None of them and all of them. It's a folk tradition, based on the story of Saint Nicholas.. But there are countless variations. The demon variant is undoubtedly true, as in German speaking countries their St. Nicholas helper (in so far as they celebrate it) are devils, demons and often scary looking figures in masks or with black painted faces... I've also heard the child killer variant, and there are some other ones. My mother came from a region where Sint would only have Zwarte Piet with him, but in most other places in the Netherlands he has many different ones. I think most of Belgium just has 1 piet as well..

There's a huge variety in this tradtion, which is one of the reasons why so many people are hideously pissed that Piet is no longer allowed to be black by some media, journalists and libruls that all live in Amsterdam.. They feel (rightfully, imo) that nobody owns this tradition, and that no one gets the actual final say in how Piet looks like..

De zetels Greet
De zetels...

The Santa you are familiar with is actually a bastardized tradition originating from dutch former colonists.

Sinterklaas is basically proto-santa

>The idea of the Dutch having a Spanish Santa is bizarre to me.

Not nearly as bizarre as living on the fucking North Pole with fairies m8..

There's a load of stories about why Piet is black. Some go as the Belgian says, others say he's a former slave freed by St Nic who then pledged to become his servant. It's folk tales so there's no one 'real' story behind it.

Santa is a fat loser, Sinterklaas is my man!

>If this is real, this is top tier 1800 bantz. How did Spain ever recover from this?
Both Saint Nicholas (who is white) and Zwarte Piet come from Spain. Pic related is Zwarte Piet taking some bad children in his burlap sack.

>So is it because the Spanish Habsburgs used to rule you so you portray the Spanish as niggers because of it?
No, Saint Nicholas is white. Zwarte Piet only started to exist in the nineteenth century (long after Habsburg rule). And his clothing is I believe modelled on pages.

>obvious election refugee is obvious

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The Belgian waffles one would make more sense though. As punishment for killing kids the merciful Saint forces him to give presents to kids forever as his judgment and he's black because the Saint saved him from being burned at the stake. Makes more sense then having some random nigger servant or a demon helper

>It's folk tales so there's no one 'real' story behind it.

Well, you can say the Sinterklaas figure at it's core is always Saint Nicholas.. But after that it gets murky fast.


Also, funfact: The Carribean Netherlands which are majority black still celebrate this tradition as well.. Even in Suriname, which has been independent since 1975 and is also majority black, they still do. They actually literally paint black dudes white if they can't find a white Sint..

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There's a huge variety in this tradtion, which is one of the reasons why so many people are hideously pissed that Piet is no longer allowed to be black by some media, journalists and libruls that all live in Amsterdam.. They feel (rightfully, imo) that nobody owns this tradition, and that no one gets the actual final say in how Piet looks like..

Not to mention that in our caribbean colonies they actually whiteface Sinterklaas. But that's appararantly okay.

I guess there are different stories explaining his origin. In the version I've heard Zwarte Pier is a Moor.
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Have a good christmas Netherlands

Its the womens party, ofc they are ranting

He's a zionist but that is based

Geert is literally a jew , fucking colgate larping waffle

I love the fact that more than 90% of the Dutch don't think that is racist and don't give a fuck if niggers whine about it.
You guys might have the highest power level of any country, but you keep it to yourselves.

projecting much?

>But that's appararantly okay.

BLACK PEOPLE CAN'T BE RACIST

RACISM IS INSTITUTIONALISED IN STRUCUTES OF POWER

BLACK PEOPLE HAVE INTERNALISED RACISM

WHITE PEOPLE HAVE INTERNALISED OPRESSION

BLACK PEOPLE'S GENETICS HAVE BEEN ALTERED BY THE TRAUMA OF SLAVERY, AND THIS IS YOUR AND YOUR ANCESTORS FAULT

I AM SAYING THIS VERY LOUDLY SO YOU DO NOT DARE SAY I AM A RAMBLING IMBECILE

PSEUDO SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS AGREE WITH ME, SO YOU ARE A FASCIST IF YOU DON'T

WE MUST DECOLONISE THE WHITE MIND

M-M-M-MUH BLAAAACK FAAACE

The worst part of Anti-Piet activists are all the tumblr-tier drivel they spit out as soon as a microphone or camera is near them.. They cite all those vague American liberals and their made up terms like white privilege, institutionalised racism, 'decolonosation' and that nonsense about inheriting traumas from slavery through DNA that recently even crept into a fucking HIGHSCHOOL BOOK in this country.

In short, all of this is America's fault.

>Have a good christmas Netherlands
Saint Nicholas doesn't arrive on Christmas. His feast is celebrated on December 5th in the Netherlands and December 6th in Belgium

I always heard another version where ZWARTE Piet was black because he was always climbing down soot filled chimneys for Sinterklaas

Geert Wilders is not even fully Ethnically Dutch
He is partly Jewish and partly Indonesian
He just says stuff to appease you.
When he is shilling against abolishing the dividend tax I know he is a shill.
One day he is pro-laizzes faire and the other day he's a fucking socialist, all just to catch voters.

There is no party in the Dutch system that is logical. Best thing to do is just vote for lower taxes (vvd), get rich and leave the country

We don't have the minstrel shows blackface tradition though, so it doesn't have this historical racist connotation. Hell when I was a kid I loved Zwarte Piet because he brings presents and candy. He's the ideal black immigrant: Comes in gives kids all kinds of fun stuff and then fucks off again, all in the space of 3 weeks.

I was in Bonaire (Dutch Caribbean) earlier this year, and they unironically had pic related as "local" art in my cabin/room. Yet painting a guy black who then goes and gives children presents is racist.

>They cite all those vague American liberals and their made up terms like white privilege, institutionalised racism, 'decolonosation' and that nonsense about inheriting traumas from slavery through DNA that recently even crept into a fucking HIGHSCHOOL BOOK in this country.
Sauce about the high school book?

So, are your lefty-cunts going to go Swedish on this and start harassing costume shops selling "black face" greasepaint?

Rundown in engrish pliz, that goes for everyone posting images in gibberish

geenstijl.nl/5139466/black-genes-matter/

>VVD

>Lage belastingen

Jij let ook niet echt op he?

>I love the fact that more than 90% of the Dutch don't think that is racist
Many of us will actually flat out that Piet is a racist stereotype.. The whole 'it's because of the chimney' is just a scam for kids, and everybody knows it. He's a moor servant.. Not actually a slave, and he wouldn't have actually been black, but he's still a racial caricature. The thing is: That's has been a non issue in the Netherlands for centuries, and to most people it still is. You can dress up and act like a silly black dude without hating black people. People think it's harmless, and that activists are whiny cunts.
>and don't give a fuck if niggers whine about it.
It's getting traction, but most people get really annoyed at the constant accusations of deeply ingrained racism over a little fucking face paint..

>muh Geert is a zionist

>Best thing to do is just vote for lower taxes (vvd), get rich and leave the country
Fuck off, then, you traitor

We have a similar black face in England but I can't remember what it's called

I think no one has protested it yet because it's only practiced in places that non-whites don't go to

Not really. I'm not saying I think it's racist but it does resemble pic related, which is as un PC as it gets in America now.
In Britain Golliwogs are more acceptable than pic related but I think a majority thinks they're racist now.
The Dutch apparently just don't give a fuck what people think about Zwarte Piet. And I think that's great.

He's actually a turk living in spain buried in Italy.

Didn't they more or less ban Golliwogs in the UK for similar reasons?

The thing is, this whole thing is only a problem in the liberal shithole of Amsterdam and a few other cities. Nowhere else. Not even 5% of the population want to change it but the liberal/state media just go with it to be PC.

't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee 't valt wel mee... Het komt wel goed

Geert moet dit verander na

Welkom in Nederland

Sinterklaar
&
Kaffir Piet

Dit maak meer sin

Thanks for the link. This is absolutely insane

>The Dutch apparently just don't give a fuck what people think about Zwarte Piet. And I think that's great.

One of the main reasons is because people actually bring up 'Black Face' all the time in relation to Piet, even though it's a completely unrelated cultural phenomenon.. That annoys people to no end, because we're not Yanks and people should stop projecting their Yank values and Yank prejudices on us..

golliwogs are still here but they're just a relic of the past really, nothing to get mad about

we had minstrel shows here up until the late 80s

Here's the blackface thing I was on about
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Morris

Indos are the strongest race in the world.

I actually had a lecture about this shit as well, but about descendants of holocaust survivors being more likely to be obese due to muh epigenetics and muh starvation. Evidence was sketchy as fuck.

It's the Women's Party (hysterical feminists) and a rough translation is right there in the image.

Narsingh is niet eens een neger, wanne kutjoekel

Nej de volgende helper wordt een onthoofde boer met een groep negers dansend er omheen.

On curaçao they put extra black paint on blacks' faces kek

Genes being affected by past trauma is bollocks, there's no denying that Mexicans are fat due only just finding about sugar or Native Americans being drunks due to booze being recently introduced into their race though

We have a large dutch population in canada and some dutch politician got in huge shit becuase he went to a christmas party and posed with a guy dressed as Zwarte Piet and everyone threw a complete shit fit.

>he said "Its my culture." and then had to apologize to everyone to keep his job

cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/joachim-stroink-apologizes-for-zwarte-piet-blackface-photo-1.2447494

>The Dutch apparently

yeah you're projecting mate. its mot reality if you only see what you want to see.
Never crossed your mind that this thing of ours is pretty complicated across the board and that a big portion of our blacks don't even care?

As always its the loud and aggressive minorities that set the tone.

At least you guys have specifically designed racist laws.

>Evidence was sketchy as fuck.

Apparantly some lady from Tel Aviv university of all places dove into this and concluded that a study based on causing stress in worms (!!!) is hardly indicative of the same thing existing in humans, much less over centuries time.. Basically, there literally is no evidence for this occuring in humans, or any creature with a more complicated genome than a worm.

Yet it's being pushed as fact, because it supports certain agendas.. There really is no stopping this ride.

Archive or screenshot please unvis.it/cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/joachim-stroink-apologizes-for-zwarte-piet-blackface-photo-1.2447494

I'd rather teach my children that Santa Claus was a white man with elf helpers that drank milk and ate cookies while delivering presents to children than tell them he was a Spaniard with a child killing nigger demon he rescued at his side.

Is this Saint Nicolas that is celebrated on Decembar the 6th?

He has an archnemesis called Krampus. The Krampus is said to abduct evil children.

sies hoekom will jy he swartes moet dit doen. Julle het al klaar in die Nederland vir muhammad wat al julle vrouens vat. Nederland sal islamic wees en ons afrikaners sal nogsteeds hier in Suid Afrika wees. Besig om vir julle te lag.

He is truly Asian-Aryan masterrace.

>We have a similar black face in England but I can't remember what it's called
You mean Mummer's day? (pic related)

Fun fact, in Iran they have Hajji Firuz, but he's protected by the UN, which wants Zwarte Piet to change.

soon...

>I'd rather tell my children that Santa Clause is a fat man that drives a Coca Cola truck than cherish European folk culture and the Christian Saints of old, while dishing out some innocent bants to the peoples of color

He is probably referring to Howard Zinn who was a commie.

I don't understand why you're trying to take offense. I'm saying that it's good that you aren't overly sensitive about these things. The lawn jockey in my previous post was never intended to be racist but over time people got butthurt about it, it's a similar symbol. Same with Golliwogs in the UK.
And yes, I know it's horrible American PC sensitivities that are spreading. And I'm saying that it's GOOD for you to resist it.
I am in no way suggesting that I think or that you should think that Zwarte Piet is "racist". I am just happy that the PC virus isn't spreading so easily there.

Maybe but nobody will care, I forgot they even existed before this thread thats how irrelevant they are

Yes.. It's the same character. Krampus was considered to be too unfriendly towards childrens sensibilities somewhere in the 1800s, so the Black Pete figure came into the picture as a 'helper' and 'friend' around that time.

By the way, to explain to some foreigners: There actually is a very big PRACTICAL element in the face paint. You have to realise that all kids up to about 6 years old are conned into believing Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet are ENTIRELY real.. They arrive on a steamboat in November with a bunch of presents, from Spain, and after giving out heaps of candy and the presents they go back untill next November. Nobody questions this under a certain age, and the illusion would be a LOT harder to maintain if the neighbors, teachers, uncles, aunties sometimes literally parents that act like Zwarte Piet were not disguised under a layer of black paint and a huge wig. Children are pretty guillable, but not so guillable that they stop recognising their parent's face...

Swedish isn't that difficult. I was lucky though and live near the biggest Swedish school in the US and had great teachers.

Nou nou zo erg is het nog niet. Maarja we zullen zien wat het eerst gebeurd. Kalifaat Nederland of een volledig zwart Zuid-Afrika. Ik hoop dat mensen hier wakker worden maar heb weinig hoop.

Go smoke some weed and celebrate your moor conquerors, faggot.

>I am just happy that the PC virus isn't spreading so easily there.
You are wrong though. Gender neutral laws are being implemented as we speak here

It's not either/or.
We celebrate Sinterklaas on december 6th AND Christmas, including Santa Claus (in dutch: de Kerstman) on december 25th.
Sinterklaas is a separate figure from Santa Claus. Sinterklaas is simply an additional holiday and kids get more presents.

Also I've never heard of Zwarte Piet being a child murderer burned alive. All I've ever known was Zwarte Piet being a black helper of Sinterklaas. Not even 'servant', there is no real dominance hierarchy, they're more like partners. Or if there is, it's more like wise teacher and student, like jedi master and apprentice sort of thing.
The irony is white kids absolutely love Zwarte Piet. Me and my friends used to think Sinterklaas was kind of boring, while Piet is adventurous and funny. There's no "implicit racism" or anything like that.

I'm 90% sure that pic was taken in sidmouth, I was there last year and saw one of those parades, was pretty fun

Thanks, I thought the untranslated part was relevant, a reply or something. But it seems to be something about stopping at red lights.

Fucking dis.

Controlled oppo zio shill Wilders has been bluepilling the Dutch since Fortuyn was offed.

Do not ever call the Dutch based they are the worst kind of good goyim and enablers of white genocide.

>I'd rather teach my children that Santa Claus was a white man with elf helpers that drank milk and ate cookies while delivering presents to children than tell them he was a Spaniard with a child killing nigger demon he rescued at his side.
Weak

Did anybody see the volkskrant this morning? It had an several page article on the Dutch alt-right wich mentioned Sup Forums. Off tpoic I know but didn't see a polderdraad.

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