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Enjoy Chinese style censorship of the internet. You earned this Trump voters. :)))))

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Except you got it all backwards kiddo

Can something be done?

idiot. that is not how it works. your mind is corrupted by leftypol and twitter lies.

Umm, net neutrality is bad retard.

You would think the democrats would be embarrassed at having a Democrat commissioner who didn't know what the FTC are.

ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2017/11/ftc-testifies-house-judiciary-subcommittee-net-neutrality

But then again it appears the voting base doesn't understand it either. Typical liberal education.

>Trumps FCC

lol it was obama you fucking assholes that started this shit

>ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2017/11/ftc-testifies-house-judiciary-subcommittee-net-neutrality

So what exactly does this mean? If it ain't medical jargon, I got nothing.

The fucking retards who say net neutrality is bad are the same cunts who fucking say err what did you expect with more government control. Neck yourself, cunts.

>Chinese style censorship of the internet

Not exactly, the censorship is done by the gov. in China, here it will be by private companies that hold government-backed monopolies.

The bot thing is a false flag. It's so obvious it disappoints me that people fall for it.

>Except you got it all backwards kiddo

Except I'm not.

>the censorship is done by the gov.

In us it will be the corporations who will do it.

>Chinese style
China's internet is controlled by the government. If anything they're the best model of net neutrality.

>China's internet is controlled by the government. If anything they're the best model of net neutrality.

>I don't know what net neutrality is, the post!

Well, at least Trump BTFO liberals. It's worth it, right?

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So why do they jews want net neutrality and trump not want it? All the people saying it's bad please explain because I don't see it being good at all.

Living in a rural area means I got shit anyways who fucking cares

Getting rid of net neutrality is good because it will allow more competition.

m8 you're fucked either way actually read about it.

Weither it's the ISP or not, there is still a gatekeeper.

You realize that Obama GAVE AWAY DNS registration, right? GAVE. IT. AWAY.

oh god I'll have to pay 10$ a month for pathfinder and playground?
how fucking poor are you

there really is no profit incentive for hard censorship. the government has lots of incentive for internet censorship.

businessinsider.com/mapped-what-internet-censorship-looks-like-around-the-world-2017-10

>Letting leftist jew companies censor news

Trumpkins truly are retarded

How many times are you fucking shills going to post this?

We went thru this years ago. Net neutrality is BAD MMMKAY? It barely got spiked before and we dodged a huge bullet.

Sweetie, stop this. Nobody buys it.

Net Neutrality basically made it so data couldn’t be throttled, but it also gave the FCC large hooks into the internet it shouldn’t have. Essentially, there would be more chance of censorship from Net Neutrality than without it.
Last time I checked, there wasn’t much if any censorship on the web without it, and there still isn’t. The reason companies are pissed about it is the ad revenue parts and tiers of data service.

Because the jews don't want competition. They are afraid of new companies entering the market. Net neutrality make the isps into a utility like service, regulated.

>Be UK
>Have (((Net Neutrality)))
>Everything is blocked.
>Arrested for tweet.
>Net neutrality is not for the average person.

this unironically is the thing i would start murdering people responsible
First I would fuck the existing infrastructure by thermite or some other shit and after that I would murder the politicians or their children/family 'till I got caught or they started to dismantle that shit

DNS is a convenience, we don't need it at all. We don't need it under American hegemony.

you wouldn't do shit pussy

crime sentences in Finland are pretty lax
At most I would be sentenced to 20 years in prison, and that's the worst case scenario which I have not heard anyone getting
Then there's the loonies that get life in mental hospital, but I'm quite confident I could make a case for not being a loonie

people are so retarded

any ISP who would pull this kind of shit would go bankrupt and people would just switch to ISPs who provide as usual

how can you support this regulation if you call yourself a capitalist?

>b-but I only have 1 ISP choice
then you have entirely different problems. why the hell do you only have 1? look for the answer of this question and work on that

he just said that you fucking 56% burgerfat

Fuck off FCC boot licker

>implying people wouldnt buy the shit out of it


People pay 1k for a fucking smart phone when they cant pay their fucking rent, i dont think you know how retarded the american poor fucks are

I HATE JEWISH CONTROLLED MEDIA AGENCIES

That's why I want to give them full control over the internet. The sooner Comcast censors Sup Forums and gives priority to their own websites like MSNBC the better.

If merely the top three internet providers all decided to do it at the same time, 80% of Americans would have absolutely no choice but to pick one.

then thats their own decision and they deserve everything they get

meanwhile non-retards can just switch ISP

careful what you say next.

>Leftist jew companies already censoring news

Now imagine what his country's news and internet would be like if Clinton had won

Because retards here like this guy have no idea what anti-trust laws are.

>Still doesnt understand what the FTC is

Like I said. Typical liberal education

2 options

1: obama holdovers in that department are pushing this narrative to media
2: Trump is using this to fuck with facebook and twitter execs. Just like the new asset forfeiture laws sessions push to get back all the money clintons stole.

these big internet companies are already censoring people for wrongthink

lmao fuck net neutrality i hope at&t fucks google/netflix/facebook/etc. into the dirt and then buys them. savvy users will always be able to access whatever sites they want.
>hurr durr regulation is fucken good

No the jews want it. Twitter Facebook google all defend net neutrality

It's not against the law for three companies to all have the same idea to make more money.

>Look guys, cell phone companies could never get away with charging you an extra $20 per month for texting, and another $50 for unlimited data! The free market won't allow it! The top three phone companies can't all do it, the government will sue them!
>AT&T made $40 billion last quarter

Also, why are you against using the law to force companies to do what you want if you're just going to use a different law to force them anyway?

Switch to charter.

It means whether or not you like net neutrality, it's pretty much here to stay.

The FCC is just dropping a classification that was made in 2015. This means ISPs are subject to the FTC again and anti trust laws. The FTC was going over it's coming re-adoption of jurisdiction over net neutrality.

The FCC could literally write a rule that I'd about fucking over every net neutrality principle while sending "FUCK YOU" letters to all the consumers, and it won't change a thing that net neutrality will be protected once title II is repealed.

The difference that will be coming is that smaller buisnesses will be able to start up a bit easier, and Google and Comcast won't get a monopoly on fiber with the slight regulation change and Anti Trust law enforcement. Also Google will probably get fucked I'm the add with a huge fine like they did in Europe for prioritization. We couldn't touch them the past couple years because of Title II.

I'll be fine. It's normies who will get fucked. That's good. There are way too many normies on the internet right now.

LOL "net neutrality" wasn't implemented so there is not anythign there to ignore also the thibngs the niggertator implements are why their is so muich censorship and violation of speech rights in the Internet now. repeal nthese evil repressive laws allow Sup Forums to blossom!

Bullying is illegal.

Like I said retards like you have no idea what antitrust laws are so you just have a reddit tier opinion that is horrible and bad.

ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/antitrust-laws

Mother fucking autocorrect on this God damned phone

>reported to partyvan

ok

They already do?
>Sup Forums
>news
They can't even figure out if an anonymous post here was linked to a mass shooting, how are they going to censor shit?

I have a possibly stupid question, can net neutrality be overcome by using a VPN?

>Trumps FCC
What the fuck is wrong with the media. It's just the FCC. They tried this twice under Obama before, and nobody blamed Obama for it

One can only hope user. This board will get what it deserves.

atr.org/their-own-wordswhy-left-want-net-a4130

>Marxist Robert McChesney founded the leftist group “Free Press” in 2002 to press for socialist reforms of the Internet, and a heavy regulatory hand on the ownership of other media.
>Free Press agitates for the so-called “fairness doctrine”, forcing equal time for the left to respond to conservative commentary on talk radio
>On the surface, advocates for government regulation of the Internet seem to be worried about simple issues of fairness, but even a cursory examination of the leaders behind the movement shows that this is the long wedge of an effort to nationalize the “means of mental production,” as if it were a 1917 coal plant in Kiev.

The following are direct quotes from Robert McChesney:

>”[W]e have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control."
>“Instead of waiting for the revolution to happen, we learned that unless you make significant changes in the media, it will be vastly more difficult to have a revolution. While the media is not the single most important issue in the world, it is one of the core issues that any successful Left project needs to integrate into its strategic program.”
>“We need to do whatever we can to limit capitalist propaganda, regulate it, minimize it, and perhaps even eliminate it.”

And, the most revealing and pertinent quote if you consider the state of modern """""""journalism""""""":

>”We are at a very early stage in the process. ... We are moving ahead toward a new kind of journalism. ... The result of such democratization will, in my view, be a marked shift to the political Left.”

Yes, tell me more about how Republicans are going to sue businesses.

nope, just metered bandwidth (utube, pron, netflix), based on how far away you are from a verison hub and who kissed ass while it was being laid (although, it can be easily said, taxpayers footed the lions share).

you should really change your flag if you are going to post shit contrary to it

never mind read it wrong

Hey fucking idiot. Are you so stupid that you can't see this model destroys the free flow of information that we have now.

On one hand telecom companies exist in an oligopoly so free market arguments are completely stupid. On the other hand, Google, Facebook etc are running roughshod as is.

>would just switch to ISPs

Nice bait

I honest hope becomes reality. The internet is too far gone and social media is a disease. Everything needs to be shut down or made so expensive it's practically inaccessible.

#KillTheInternet

> jewgle, faceberg, netflix, twitter all paywalled into the ground by ISPs
> t-trumpkins btfo...

>calling logical reasoning bait

Nice deflect

Honestly we'd all be better off with Sup Forums and other shitty anonymous imageboards dead. Too many degenerates and special snowflakes are here and they definitely shouldn't be anonymous.

Because less government control leads to more censorship, totally makes sense.

Government censorship and corporate censorship are indistinguishable to the end recipient.

Of course, the difference between the net 25 years ago when NN was originally a thing and what the net is today is that the net today is under the thumb of Google and a small handful of multinational corps who are all about censoring data access and deplatforming us while evading taxes and presuming to 'manage' society.

So fuck 'em.

Do you honestly think that this will be meaningfully different than Gov't direct control? The Government has huge power over those corporations because communications companies depend on government for their monopoly. If the Feds take away their licenses/wavelength, they are over so they'll listen very closely to what the bureaucrats want. Net Neutrality will mean that Congress won't have to pass any laws to censor the internet, it'll be Executive Orders, FCC rules, or that timeless favorite of government accountability the "Dear Colleague" letter.

The difference is corporations can't put a gun to my head if I do an end run around their "censorship"

You scaremongering government bootlicking faggots have been posting variations of that infographic for 15 years.

Sorry, this board is for adults only. Sup Forums existed since long before net neutrality became a thing as a result of one ISP out of thousands doing something you socialist faggots didn't like.

The majority of Americans do not have a choice when it comes to ISPs.

How do you "end run" around tiered data access? Seriously asking, for when it happens.

Tiered pricing was a thing since long before you were born. Some of us remember a time when that was the only option. Things have naturally gotten better over time without the need for bureaucratic control, not worse.

When google, twitter, microsoft, (and most of the other tech giants) are lobbying to keep net neutrality in place, I would be willing to hedge my bets against it.

I would rather roll the dice with ISP's, which as proven in the past are pretty damn easy to regulate compared to companies like google.

What will fuck this up would be cronyism.

This board is already a republican circlejerk so they don't even care.

>republican

Fucking top laf. Maybe if your ideas weren't retarded they would be more popular here.

That's not what antitrust laws are, do you seriously not know how to read? Why not demand for people to put laws that are already into place into practice instead of trying to create all new laws and regulations?

That's the problem with leftist retards like you, people don't put the laws that are already in place into practice and you think the solution is to create more laws. Why don't you go be a retard on reddit now?

Yep, big corporations LOVE net neutrality. Why? US law is all about precedent. When you set the precedent that it's the job of the FCC to micromanage how the internet operates, a door has finally been opened for lobbying. We now have a small group of bureaucrats with an extraordinary amount of power that can be sold to the highest bidder.

The problem is government-enforced monopolies. The solution is competition, not bureaucrats.

One day your white sharia will come true. It's totally not retarded to shill for kushner in chief.

This wasn't an issues before net neutrality and it won't be an issue after. The jews will try to come for Sup Forums, doubt it will work

Google is one of the largest corporations in the world, and not even they have been successful in entering the ISP market thanks to the government. They have a few isolated areas that took years of lobbying and millions of dollars.

Wrong. The isp is just the telephone line not the website. They could do the equivalent of blocking your best friends numbers on your cell phone unles you pay a best friends charge. Only this time for most people there is not an alternative. They are already making packages in smaller countries where they don’t have the law in place.

Are you a fucking retard? You must've voted for Trump.

Yea, because we know ISPs are really easy to form, just like semiconductors and car companies. Less regulation won't just result in further price fixing and consolidation.

Libertarians are truly idiots.

Tops, 20% of Americans have a single choice. Which is why the user brought up about how you are stupid if you are choosing to live in an environment so limited. Those are pretty much bumfuck nowhere areas.

In addition though, the point of repealing Title II is to eliminate the regulations that prevent small ISPs from starting up. You actually have a higher chance at creating more options after this is all done and over.

Stupid fucks like you are the reason this is happening. "Hurr durr you're a poorfag hurr durr". Don't even realize that your rights are being stripped before you. Fucking mongoloid.

>we dun like:
>jews
>liberals
Well great job as usual. Excellent arguments against net neutrality.

How would allowing ISPs to legally speed up their own content while slowing down competitors' content be a good thing for the internet? This is specifically prevented by title 2.

"On January 14, 2014, the DC Circuit Court determined in the case of Verizon Communications Inc. v. Federal Communications Commission that the FCC had no authority to enforce Network Neutrality rules as long as service providers were not identified as "common carriers"."

The FTC didn't have the power to stop this before title 2 either, so I don't see how a return to that same system automatically fixes itself.

>"In light of this, the FCC’s 2015 reclassification decision resulted in the FTC losing jurisdiction over the provision of Internet access service."
The ruling that the FTC can't regulate any services provided by a common carrier is the issue here.
Getting rid of net neutrality as a whole to nullify that ruling clearly isn't worth it. It's probably exactly what ISPs want.

>Verizon nigger
It is actually bad. It will cost millions to have access to the whole of the internet.

You and your company shilling can go to hell.

>do you seriously not know how to read?

You are talking to a leftist. Avoiding reading is a requirement for them.

as opposed to spending $230 a month for shit tv and subpar internet?

God you are so fucking cringey. Again, this board is for adults only. Those of us who aren't minors can tell you that the internet was a thing for decades before socialists begged bureaucrats to give themselves more power, and nothing like you describe ever happened.