The Re:Zero anime had the original writer in control of the show's script, and as you all know...

The Re:Zero anime had the original writer in control of the show's script, and as you all know, that turned out excellently. How come that kind of thing doesn't happen more often? Most of them just sell their rights and forget it, but Nagatsuki cared and made sure that they cut and kept the right things. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the reason why they kept skipping the OP and ED to have more time.

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>turned out excellently
>cut out the ending of the arc and told you to buy the LN

hmm...

I don't know how the arc ends in the LN, but from an anime watcher's standpoint it was a great place to end the series. Obviously there's going to be an S2, but better to do what it did and have a conclusive ending than to introduce new threads that will be left dangling for God knows how many years. I saw exactly what they were going for and I liked it.

I don't know why you see it as a cocktease. You want a show that had a blatant "Buy the LN or be pissed off forever" ending, look at New Game No Life. Still a good show though.

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>>cut out the ending of the arc and told you to buy the LN
Welp time to delete it from my hard drive.

> Sees at least 4 different Re:Zero related threads in the catalogue.
Fucking die you maggot. Pull the trigger or just jump off with a noose on your neck attached to a ceiling where you can hang yourself. End yourself. Just die. Do it. Come on. Why don't you do it? Hurry the fuck up. I ain't gonna do it for you. Stop the bullshit.

Who is that blue haired ram?

It was only a great place to end it from an anime watchers perspective because they cut out just about every loose end they possibly could get away with including Rem getting Subaru to backpedal and admit he loves her too.

You obviously didn't know what happened to Saint Seiya when the author decided to get involved and tell the studio how to draw his characters. Then fired everyone. All the people who had made his shitty manga a classic. God I hope he dies in a fire.

Wow, kind of a shame that part didn't happen, but it was pretty obvious to me that he felt that way even without it being stated directly. I mean, he literally confessed to her in episode 18 and later called her one of the most important people in his life.

I get being mad though, because the average anime watcher is literally incapable of reading between the lines even a slight amount, which is why sometimes the series feels like it's trying to beat something into the viewer's head. Because they won't get it if they're not told directly and even if they are, they still won't get it.

At any rate, I'll look forward to reading the light novels when they're translated.

Your opinion is objectively wrong. The last quarter to a third of it was so rushed it completely fell apart. Are you telling me Nagatsuki Tappei himself was in charge of that total disaster?

>The last quarter to a third of it was so rushed it completely fell apart.
Tell me exactly where you think it began to be rushed. Which episode?

I want to say episode 16, but on skimming through it, that one wasn't too bad. 17 was rushed but not to the extent of being unbearable, but then it just got worse and worse as it went on.

For reference, I started reading the source material after episode 15 aired.

Wasn't 18 the one where the entire episode was just a conversation between Subaru and Rem? How can you describe that as rushed?

I didn't think 18 was rushed, just poorly directed. Like, the bit where all the birds take off at once? But everything after that was completely awful.

17 was rushed, though. Needed more suffering. There was literally a whole 9000-word chapter on Subaru just suffering and vomiting blood as he ran away from the whale blindly in the fog. There's no way it needed all of that, but it didn't have *any* of it. That scene took like 5 seconds in the anime.

Well, the thing about episode 17 is that the stuff you describe is not only uninteresting but also entirely unnecessary to the plot. I can completely understand excising that part in favor of something that actually moves the story forward.

In my opinion it's not always the case that "rushing" is a bad thing. You have to try and get into the mind of the director and think about what he was going for. While it would be great if everything could get a 1:1 adaptation, the sad truth is that very few anime have the time or budget to accomplish such a thing. They have to figure out how to interpret the material in less time while still telling a good, coherent story.

And, to add something: Don't get me wrong, it's not that suffering can't be used to great effect. But I think we got the point after episode 15. Which, indeed, was spectacularly done. But to attempt something that again, I'd argue would devalue it. I can't fault them for just moving on.

Yes, and I said that it didn't need all of that, and that 17 was still tolerable.

From 19 onwards, though, the plot falls apart. And not just because it's rushed -- Wilhelm being able to cut Petelgeuse's invisible hands with a normal sword is ridiculous, for example. Julius could only do that because of his spirit arts. Both subjugations are just really badly handled in the anime, and at least one entire repetition of the Sloth fight is completely cut out.

The novel plot is slow at times, but it's made out of a lot of parts that elaborately fit together. You just don't get that in the anime. The parts don't fit at all, because important things are missing. I had to go through it all with an anime-only friend afterwards to explain to him all the bits that made no sense.

source plz

>LNfags claiming the anime was rushed
Holy shit, the anime moved at a snail's pace. Do you mean to tell me the LN is even slower?

Thats best girl

The journey matters more than the destination.

Bro, do not ever watch Rokka no Yuusha. (And it pains me to say this because that show was amazing.)

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Guys, why was episode 18 so fucking hilarious.

It's like the whole episode was the set up for a joke and the punch line was "oh and by the way I don't love you". 25 solid minutes of Subaru bitching and Rem comforting him and then it just ends on "I don't love you, go milk a horse", funniest shit I've seen this year.

No, here

I don't know, I really didn't have any trouble making sense of it. Maybe I'm just good at filling in the blanks. Like, the Wilhelm thing didn't come off as weird to me because, in the context of the anime, that's not something they addressed as being impossible and we'd seen how badass Wilhelm is, so to me it was just another thing he did. Could be a problem if that becomes relevant again in S2, but they could always retcon it somehow. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen an anime explain away something with a single line.

>and at least one entire repetition of the Sloth fight is completely cut out.
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying Subaru went through ANOTHER death in the middle of all this? Seems a bit excessive.

I'm not trying to devalue the LN here or anything. To me, even the anime adaptation makes it clear that it's something special. And I'm no stranger to meticulously crafted series where you can't make cuts without throwing things off massively (I'm hesitant to say it by name because I know some people really hate it, but Umineko was a really good example of this). But in this case I believe they did what they could and they had the go-ahead from Nagatsuki. Though I will say this: Your criticisms do strike me as much more valid than those of other people I've seen who accuse Re:Zero of having "plot holes" and then when I press them on it they say some bullshit that makes me realize they are missing a brain.

Looks like Bungou Stray Dogs.

>one entire repetition of the Sloth fight is completely cut out
That loop also got cut in the LN, so that one can't be faulted to the anime adaptation.
Otherwise I agree, slow buildups for climaxes that use basically everything. It's kind of a smaller scene and I understand why it got cut, but I'm still bummed that Subaru's negotiation with Crusch got so abridged.

While the LN readers are here, I've got a question. The anime has me speculating that Beatrice somehow knows about Return by Death. Has that been confirmed or refuted thus far?

Oh, really? I haven't read the LN, so I have no idea where any given change was put in.

But damn, the negotiation. That made no sense in the anime. What was the point of having Anastasia and Russel wait outside and "choose when to enter"? In the WN, Russel was there from the start and Anastasia was just running late. No idea what they were thinking when they changed that.

Yes, in the WN there was a disastrous hillside battle on the way to the Sanctuary, where Julius showed off his rainbow sword for the first time and Patrasche died heroically while being best girl. This came about because Subaru had been possessed by Petelgeuse in the previous loop and forced to kill himself, so he came to the conclusion that they had to defeat Petelgeuse without killing him. At the end of the loop, he decided that the reason he was dying this time was because he'd made up with Emilia and brought her along for the ride. That's why he tricks her in the following, successful loop, and leaves her with the children so that she won't be able to go into battle. Apparently the middle loop wasn't in the LN though, so I have no idea what the revised plot progression is. All I know is it didn't seem to follow any logic in the anime.

I wasn't happy that all of Patrasche's badassery was cut from the anime.

No, she is not aware of it. But, she does have some small immunity to the effects of gluttony victims, since she remember Rem.

Otherwise, she's clueless about Subaru's situation. Although Roswaal knows that he can "reset" the world, but he has no clue how he goes about it, but is trying to use him to his advantage. Basically Roswaal has a book that tells him the future, a complete gospel, which, unlike the ones the bishops have, tells about the future much more reliably.

Eh, Rem won anyways so I don't care as much.

I'm a fair way into arc 5. Subaru and Beatrice have a much closer relationship after the events of arc 4, but all she knows about his authority is that sometimes he knows things and can't tell her how or why. IIRC she knows about envy's miasma clinging to him, similarly to how Rem can smell it, but not that he has an authority.

OH RIGHT! And on the topic of the hillside battle, obviously I have no idea whether this was removed in the LN or just in the anime, but when Petelgeuse is confronting Emilia to put her through the Ordeal, Puck is unable to do anything about it because of a contract he has with some mysterious third party. But in the anime, he just goes in icicles a-blazin' like everything's fine.

Man, you guys are throwing around some specific terminology and I can figure out what you mean from context but it's giving me the impression that the anime didn't do a very good job of explaining those aspects.

Hey re:tards there's another thread already.

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I probably shouldn't have looked at this. When does this happen?

See

Arc 3-6+

Kind of the entire duration of it really.

It was cut from the anime, but during their talk under the tree, Subaru tells Rem that he does love Emilia, but he feels his heart flutter when he looks at her, and feels he's a terrible man for it. Rem becomes surprised and jokingly says she'd be fine with being his second wife, and Subaru replies that if she can convince Emilia of going polygamy, he'd allow it.

Later, after the whale dies, she pretends to be dying from severe injuries, and drives Subaru to confess how he really feels about her, then does the lip touch and goes "can't back out from your promise now ok?", since he just confessed. He gets relieved and tells her he was almost considering ending it if she wasn't around, they hug each other and almost kiss, but Felix cockblocks Subaru by showing up at the wrong time.

After that Rem gets assaulted by two bishops on the way back, one of then gluttony, everyone forgets her, and she is in a coma, due to having her memories and name eaten, Subaru kilsl himself with no hesitation when he sees her like that, in order to save her, but the checkpoint moved.

The later arcs have Subaru worried sick for her, and trying to find a way to fix her, even telling Emilia he loves both of then equally. So yeah, she "kinda" won. But Subaru still loves Emilia as well. If it will stay like that, will depend on what happens when she wakes up.

Sometimes I get tired of how over-the-top and edgy modern anime is. There are just so many cliches in this WebM alone.

You forgot that because of her Subaru can't even consider entering into a romantic relationship with anyone. His libido practically dies of depression.

>very obviously a comedic scene
>edgy

Uh?

Don't mind him he's the local shitposter

Whoa. Here I was just assuming it was going to be that she hasn't given up on trying to be his number one and that it's still up in the air, but that's more of a wild ride than I was expecting.

While I'm happy to hear just how much Subaru values her, I'm not happy that it sounds like she's basically been gone since arc 3. My heart can't take that suffering. This had better end happily.

By the way, why are these girls so unable to take care of themselves? Feels like every time he lets one out of his sight they get themselves in serious danger and often killed. This series really shows that all those other isekai protagonists only make it through the hell that is a fantasy world thanks to exceptional luck.

It was different in the LN and made more sense.

But the anime decided to screw it all because whitefox loves emilia.

>This had better end happily

Oh yeah, follow up question. Now I'm curious, does this situation finally give Emilia a chance to shine? Because frankly I find it ridiculous that the events of three episodes were somehow a bigger deal in Subaru's mind than all the stuff he's been through with Rem. My friend theorized that the witch is messing with his head somehow.

They can take care of themselves but considering Rem and Crusch had to fight Gluttony a man who has devoured legendary figures like sword demons and Regulus who genocided an entire city single-handedly, with one of them killing Reinhardt. You can't really do much. Bishops are not to be fucked with.

>Happy ending

M-Me too...

>Now I'm curious, does this situation finally give Emilia a chance to shine?

Somewhat, but not enough.

>My friend theorized that the witch is messing with his head somehow.

That's a lot of peoples theories, including WN speculations right now. Reading this passage alone tipped a lot of reader's heads.

>Bishops are not to be fucked with.
Petelgeuse went down pretty easily though.

Because his power is having invisible hands, and Subaru could see then, the hands are slow otherwise, so it's not that hard to take down.

If they didn't have someone who could see the hands, or provide information on said hands and how they worked, it wouldn't have been as easy. Plus, they work with surprise attacks, but since Subaru can loop he could counter it. it was hardly "pretty easy".

Don't get me started on Betelgeuse. If you want a tragic story he is the man for it. Let's just say, he was incompatible with "Sloth".

They can take care of themselves, but basically:

>Rem was exhausted from the previous fight
>They are assaulted by Regulus who can't be touched and can fuck you up since he can time stop his own body making himself invincible, and even a gust of air from his arm swing in that form can cut buildings
>Crusch loses her arm to said move
>Another bishop strikes from behind eating people not literally, he eats their names and memories and other abstract things
>Rem knows she can't win and buys time for those who could run away by summoning her horn and fighting then briefly, before falling victim to Ley of gluttony and going coma

If only his lover could see what he has become.

She probably already didthere are some hints that Fortuna may have become Sirius of wrath, she has the same eye color as Emilia and fortuna for one, is crazy for Petelgeuse, and her whole body is wraped in bandages, and she's one of the oldest members along with Regulus and Petelgeuse, possibly due to her race living long.

I swear I'm no shitposter. Its just that I guess I've become a bit disenchanted with modern anime. Also, I could tell the scene started off as comedic, but with the bloody barbwired hand and the scream implying something happened to her; That seemed a bit edgy.

Everyone, come here

Stop that

Or, you know. We can have both threads.

Fuck off. Not every thread has to be a general. Sometimes people just want to have a fucking thread.

Why do most people say Petelgeuse was a jobber? Did they forget how hard it was to take him down? Like:

>Has the power to summon multiple invisible hands that can shred even trees and crush people easily
>Proficient with sneak attacks and carries then out even more easily due to his hands
>If dead, he can jump to another body that is compatible with him, the compatibility being a strong connection with spirits
>Is extremely resilient and if his body crumbles he can use his hands to make his destroyed body move

Subaru had to know he was coming, live trouble multiple deaths of his surprise attacks, be able to see the hands, have a counter for the possession, and then luck out that he didn't go completely insane and still cared for Satella in order to use the gospel to lure him and make him get crushed by the carriage's wheel.

Without Subaru to counter him, he would have most likely killed everyone.

Welcome to the world of LIGHT NOVELS. Shit tons of unnecessary craps are added so that they can fill the book's quota.

Oh, grow the fuck up. It's "unnecessary" to you because you can't stand to read anything longer than a pamphlet. God forbid you ever read a REAL novel.

>Welp time to delete it from my hard drive.
While I'm sure you wouldn't have liked it anyway, can I just point out how incredibly stupid it is to change your plans to watch a show solely because of some random post on Sup Forums? That person could have easily been making up some bullshit.

>LN
>Not WN

Plus the WN was done with Tappei's free-time as a writer. The LN is just a shortened publicized version of it. The LN is actually shorter than the WN in this regard. I also wouldn't call it unnecessary since Tappei fills it with little moments that make you care for the characters and the story. Like take for example how the anime made Rem as "safe" as possible by cutting out chunks of her personality. Like the fact that she bullies Subaru and plays tricks on him, as well as the fact that she is a major opportunist. Like how Subaru in the WN/LN is a heavily flawed human being instead of a irrational sperg, which they couldn't include in the anime because SUbaru literally has chapter long monologues.

He just never shook that one time where Wilhelm killed him in one hit.

With information that Subaru provided then of how his power worked. Without it, even Wilhelm would be in trouble.

The LN is not THAT much shorter, it cuts out unnecessary of repetitive crap, and is more polished in terms of writing.

It's just, the irony of Subaru sending Rem away so she could be safe only for her to end up worse off than if he'd just let her chill with him.

True, also forgetting the fact that Wilhelm beat a Sword Saint and made her his wife, which a lot of people seem to forget.

>scream implying something happened to her; That seemed a bit edgy.
Tell me what you think happened?

Yeah, but in retrospect Subaru made the right decision. I mean, there are very few who can stand against a small veteran army and Crusch. Plus he didn't want Bete touching her again.

Joke's on you, I never deleted it.

I dunno. Never saw the show.
I guess might've just been there to throw the viewer off and cut to a cutesy scene. That, or she dies off screen.

God damn it. I loved the anime but reading all the posts about the WN/LN in this thread is making me feel like an idiot, because the books sound way better. I guess they're so good that it shines through in the anime despite everything.

Sending her away to the capital is what made sense for her safety, nobody would expect more bishops to show up.

Apparently Regulus said he was there because of a coincidence, while Ley went there to check who killed his "pet" whale.

The anime did an amazing job really, it's just that they couldn't place every little detail in, and some other things are missing too.

It was a close adaptation to the source material, aside from the fact that Rem didn't get to hear Subaru say he loves her too, which could be fixed if they throw an "flashback" to said conversation in case they make another season.

I kinda do wish they fleshed out both of their personalities more in the anime. The bantz between the two are just pleasant. Then also comes the headpat and cuddle sessions to really get you going on the tragedy that was about to unfold.

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He experienced an "eldritch abomination", he saw madness. He doesn't die.

>headpat and cuddle sessions

Huh?

My bad. I didn't even notice the file name. I mean, it seems like a decent show. One of my friends at work recommended it to me. Guess I'm a bit too opinionative in the morning.

During the time Subaru was recovering after saving Rem and Ram from the monster dogs, she was shown to be super clingy, and would find any excuse to ask for headpats from him, and he did give then. Sometimes it would go for a good while since he liked the sensation too i guess.

Rem does something right? Rem wants some headpats yes? Then the headpat and sometimes slight cuddle session starts.

He even had to try and explain to Emilia it was just him rewarding Rem and not anything else, when she looked at him a little pissed when she noticed dim doing it.

You heard me

>“And so, Subaru-kun. Don’t you have something to say to say to Rem?”
>“Rem, you’re a supermaid with seriously good timing! I’ve fallen in love with you again!”
>“If you praise me so much I’ll get bothered”
>While the stooge’s stooges were on their toes from Rem’s sudden entrance, Rem and Subaru fell into their normal daily routine. Rem fidgeting from side to side, her face red from Subaru’s praise. The first to act was the big stooge, a vein bulging from listening to the two’s conversation.

Guys, I think Rem is cute but I just can't get into her. I hate her hair.

Is there anyway around this?

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I don't blame you, modern anime has some shit in it. At least there are some good ones out there.

No, like the goddess instead.

I've had my penis stepped on thank you very much, it is not as hot as it sounds.

Crusch-sama won't step on your penis.

>Spoils her
>Has a date with her
>I-Its just me rewarding her I swear!

Also, what irks me is that they didn't establish the Ram/Sub subplot since if we are ever going to get a season 2 that is going to be extremely important as those two ague over mysterious potato a lot.

Given that once you apply any significant force to a step it ceases to be a step, I agree.

which subplot are you talking about? The fact that he loves Rem too? Cause like i said, they could add a "flashback" showing him telling her he loves her as well or something if they want to, or have Subaru realize he loves her on the was to the capital.

Crusch-sama is a gentle goddess.

The adaptation did well enough, but the time-constraints for just 25 episodes probably didn't leave much room having most of the entire anime feel rushed as fuck.

No, no the subplot with Ram and Subaru you know, the whole sister-in-law thing they got going on.

Will we get a second season?

Like i said, flashbacks, or talking about it is enough, it's not THAT important of a detail as much as the fact that Subaru confessed to her too.

Hopefully no, I don't want to see anime onlys memes and Waito Fakkusu skipping things.

You have a friend at work who recommended Stray Dogs? That's surprising. I'd think it's one of those anime that entry-level viewers wouldn't even think to try.