So explain to me why Sup Forums hates net neutrality

so explain to me why Sup Forums hates net neutrality

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Probably cause a Jew made it up

Because Sup Forums does what the billionaire globalists command it to do

really?

IDK but i'm guessing its because liberals like it

Sup Forums doesn't hate it, the ANCap and r/Donald nutbags hate it because the left support it.

Which is insane.

I would love net neutrality. The industry is a natural monopoly and should be regulate as a common carrier. Otherwise there simply is not enough competition.

That being said I hate the obama fcc powergrab.
1) There was no enabling statute, they did not constitutionally have the power to enforce it via a rulemaking
2) It was not net neutrality. There was no enforcement of the end to end principle. If anything it was an attempt to appease people so that isps could continue business as usual and there would be reduced pressure to pass real net neutrality.

ancap people hate it because it is regulatory. From their perspective there is no such thing as natural monopoly and any problems with the industry are due to government interference in the first place. If you wish to understand their perspective here is an excellent summary:
mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly

Wait? Since when does Sup Forums hate net neutrality?

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Because it's a way to make consumers pay for large internet companies' bandwidth

jews

Because neither side can define it nor discuss the repercussions either way.

They don't understand it.

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NET NEUTRALITY IS ANTI COMPETITION BULLSHIT

FUCK GOOGLE FACEBOOK REDDIT TWITTER CLOUDFLARE AMAZON AND ANY OTHER BULLSHIT

BREAK THEM ALL UP. BREAK UP THE TELECOM COMPANIES. BREAK IT ALL UP.

from what I've seen, pol doesn't really believe in anything but Trump.

The internet was invented by the military.
To pretend this is some land of unrestricted freedom is naive.

Sup Forums just like conservatives, vote against their own interest.

ALL MONOPOLISTIC COMPANIES ARE FUCKED

I want it all to burn.
I don't care anymore.

Breaking it up doesn't accomplish much. Just look at at&t or the railroads. The infrastructure investments are such that they still maintain a local monopoly without directly competing with each other in most markets. Then they slowly merge back together because it is most efficient to do so.

this

This guy gets it.

shut the fuck up kike.

t. corporate shill

>why does Sup Forums hate more government meddling in and regulation of the internet

Hmm I wonder

fuck net neutrality and welfare for Google Facebook and netfkix

Net Neutrality just makes it illegal for ISPs to charge more for big tech companies such as Netflix, Google, and Youtube.

These companies combined use up 70% of all the internet"s bandwidth. The whole "Save Net Neutrality" is just an AstroTurf movement by these companies so that ISPs can't charge them more for all the shit tons of bandwidth they use.

> Duh gubbuhment is a big scury man who dun been comin’ to take all muh guns and probe me and try and stop me from fuckin’ muh cusin’s.

This basically

Because net neutrality stop Americans from getting raped in the ass.

And I like to see American ass rape butthurt so down with net neutrality!

Coming from a government nigger on welfare, this is classic

Fucking idiots everywhere. Blows my mind how people support such idiotic ideas. Stupid Trumpanzees.

You're not even American you 3rd world cunt so fuck off.

I will laugh at America's loss of internet freedoms as I laughed at 9-11.

Are you on the Spectrum or what makes you think, that we dont support this?
I dont want to pay extra, for "free" stuff, buying free stuff is a Goyim thing to do.
Sup Forums, Netflix, Amazon and Youtube would be the first, that get hit or replaced with a shitty 2nd class services shit, that is in favour of your ISP.

Net neutrality needs to affect tech giants that monopolized info-sphere.

Goolag must be regulated or dissolved

...

If Comcast wants promote its networks and shows like NBC and MSNBC while throttling its competition like Disney and Sup Forums, then it should have the right to do so.

The free market will fix it

The old media that merged with the big ISPs wants to eliminate competition and establish monopoly as much as any of the new tech giants. Pull your head out of your ass.

Please realise you are the pawns between Megacorporations. Stop being pawns.

>The AGAINST net-Neutrality side:
>ISPs
Why? Because they will be able to extort all the Top websites for money.

>The FOR net-Neutrality side:
>Website owners, google, youtibe, amazon
Why? Because they don't want to be extorted by the ISPs. These mega corporations will have to pay huge fees to ISP to stay relevant.

This is not our fight. Stop being pawns.
The Website owners have successfully convinced most of you to be FOR, under the lie that you, the end user will pay the bill. You have been deceived.

Not an argument

You/pol/ cunts are fuck in the head. Go fuck yourselves to death go masturbate until kills you go masturbate yourselves to death go fuck yourselves to death fuck yourselves until you die masturbate until you die.

Fuck off and make porn so we can masturbate.

Faggot bitch ass slave.

This

The Major tech companies such as Google, Youtube, and Twitter get the Democrats to push for Net Neutrality, and in exchange they use their platforms to push liberal propaganda and censor Conservatives.

Unless your an ISP or Tech Executive you shouldnt give two shits about Net Neutrality.

Fuck off and watch free porn, until you can't because your ISP throttled your non-approved streaming traffic.

*you're

Mijn land uit nu, waardeloze vlegel

Think of it like a highway, everyone is using it normally.
Then Facebook rocks up and spits out 10,000 trucks onto that highway causing congestion.
Even though they're now using up half of the highway all the time they complain that they should be treated like the regular commuters and shouldn't have to pay the toll despite clogging it.

That's net neutrality, you are defending megacorporations when you defend net neutrality

>mericans actually defending the propagation of the monopoly lawsets and the cementing of economic powerhouses, decreasing any competition
Shaking my goddamn head citizens of Star-stan, shaking my head fiercely.

Its a lose lose situation for the people. Let companies like Time warner and Comcast have their way, and watch how you have to pay extra for reasonable speed for any streaming service even youtube. Let the government regulate and prevent this and have risk the potential for government censoring content.

I guess the only win would be to anti trust comcast and time warner, break them into many pieces then go with net neutrality.

Ill be honest, with the consistently dishonest naming of political bills (most recent being the affordable health care act which did the opposite) i can't even tell if "net neutrality" is the government bill taking over internet or the act of preventing intervention over the internet.

The US didnt have "Net Neutrality" until a couples years ago under Obama. The only diffence that getting rid of Net Neutrality will make is that major Tech companies will pay more.

Kill yourself you corporate whore. Nothing you say or do matters because you people are disgusting cretins. What the fuck is wrong with you faggots. Alienate everyone that expresses opinions and viewpoints you don't agree with and silence them. Then come to the only place left on the internet with some semblance of free speech to ask them to agree with Net Neutrality?

Are you people fucking insane?

>old big media will be more favorable to unpopular political opinions than silicon valley

Let me tell you something, junior...

Give an example of a natural occurring "monopoly" being bad for the consumer. Amazon almost has a monopoly on the online book market and my books have never been cheaper.

>>The Major tech companies such as Google, Youtube, and Twitter get the Democrats to push for Net Neutrality, and in exchange they use their platforms to push liberal propaganda and censor Conservatives.
I actually didn't realise it reached this far into politics.
I only thought it was a money fight between corporations.

Thanks for connecting the dots for me user.

Comcast is lobbying Dems and were strong pro-Shillary

It's bullshit. he old big media companies that have become the ISPs are the ones that run Hollywood, and every Sup Forumstard loves to hate Hollywood liberals.

One thing libertarians constantly say is that is whenever you tax corporations
they just pass the cost to customers.
Yet here if tech companies are forced to pay higher fees to ISPs we are expected to believe
that Netflix, Spotify or others won't charge us extra to offset the costs.
They either don't believe in their own economic theories or are plain stupid.

And you miss the point colgate. I dont need to give you a example of a naturaly occuring monopoly as thats not the point im arguing at all, a pseudo monopoly thats not cemented by law is fine, as the comany is quite qualified to be in such a position.

Now, if you make it so the already top companies are artificialy, check the key word, not naturaly, artificialy, cemeted into place and able to fully affect all other services, rendering any competition or attempt useless, then what good will it do to the consumer and how will it increase the quality of the established monopoly owners when they will not have to assure it to be as high as it got them up to be, rather being able to lower quality for monetary gain due to no competitor being around to be able to stop or replace them with better services?

because bandwidth is a commodity like any other and it SHOULD go to the highest bidder.

It SHOULD do this because markets are the most efficient decision making engine possible. Sites that cannot pay SHOULD fade in obscurity since the reason they cannot pay is because they contain misinformation or just outright are not of high quality.

Should a shitty youtube or local cable access channel be broadcast over the airwaves beside NBC? No way. Net neutrality is the same!

Here come the resident MBAs.

I bet you give to NPR

Yes goyim just put the government in charge of all your internet tubes. They should be able to regulate the traffic however they please :^)

>NN is anti competition
>big telco pays hundreds of millions to defeat it so more competition can come in and hurt their business
>Most of US has tons of choices for broadband and pay the least for most compared to other developed nations.

What's it like living in the upside down?

This actually puts industry in charge of the net. Not gov!

What's it like shilling for your corporate overlords at a job that solidifies your meaningless existence?

go back to /leftypol/ this is a free market board

>big telco
>not corporate overlords

They will get broken up too faggot.

The government should have no say in how private companies decide to charge for their services.

So why do you think you can solve a problem caused by government interference with more government interference

What about a high traffic site like Sup Forums that's never been profitable and never will be? Should we fade into obscurity?

Does anyone have a link to the language in the actual current Net Neutrality bill that's being debated on, and what ramifications it would have on ISPs and the consumers?

Because the last one I looked at, it might be the same, did something weird with the classification of Internet that would have just made things a lot more fucky with regards to our current monopolies.

Soon, I hope.

Sup Forums is stupid, literally only because the left supports it; despite net neutrality standing for everything Sup Forums would normally stand up against.

Why on earth would ANYONE want to let the government put their hand in the cookie jar.

The internet needs to be free and open.

Good intentions beget the net getting FUCKING WRECKED when certain sites are accused on wrongthink and censored to save peoples feelings.

Don't forget Antia/Zoe Quinn et all were all the UN CALLING FOR THIS VERY THING LAST YEAR. They said a "cyber touch" was equivalent to a physical touch.

So they want the UN to censor the internet so people can't hurt feminists' feelings.

A bunch of people called them dumb and/or names and now we need big-brother to protect them.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING PEOPLE....WAKE UP


Not true. My side CERTAINLY can define a major repercussion of the government regulating a huge part of the internet: control.

Today it's speed, tomorrow it's CONTENT.

And then the internet as we know it is over.

The ICANN surrender by cuck pickle licking Obama might already put us there btw...


Net neutrality is noble in thought, but ultimately ceedes control to the government, and today it might just be speed but tomorrow it's full blown censorship of sites like Sup Forums & zerohedge and infowars.

Give major regulatory power/control to the government and the internet and it will never be the same.

Everything the Jews do they slap a nice sounding name to it like womens rights, fighting climate change or fighting racism.

I asked you how a artificial cementing of a monopoly was a good thing at all, explaining how its heavily leaning towards a decrease of quality for services rendered and harmfull to consumers and id like a answer before you try and question me again.

How does it support the consumer, his rights, provide countries with better services or in general is a good idea when all indicators would point to, when a monopoly was legaly set in motion, services would decrease in quality for the sake of monetary eficiency and profits. Answer me or I will not answer your question.

Who gets to be in charge of online speeh and content?

Who decides what is god or bad?

If a document online hurts an agenda or politician, does it get expunged according to ones beliefs or allignment?

Too much power for one person. Congress wants the world wide web policed out of Washington D.C.

Calling net neutrality censorship is some Hannity-level bullshit slippery slope upside-down projection. It's like Citizens United all over again.

You are so fucking retarded, either that or some comcast shill.

The government can't control the net through net neutrality.

Look at what happened EU when they left net neutrality. Just google it, i'll wait. Or if you're a lazy fuck, i'll google it for you, your call fag.

Fuck your faggot reddit shit
You want to censor everyone yet when the government censors YOU, you sperg
Get fucked, I hope the internet crashes and fucking burns and all your favorite sites get shut down, and all that appears is a huge picture of that faggot lawyer Ajit V. Pai you redditors love to shit on

Absolutely! Unless it is properly monetized.

Internet in our country is one of the fastest in the world thanks to government interference.

>I'm okay with living in a totalitarian state when on the internet because it's "faster"

because it's anti property. if I own a cable no one should tell me how to use it.

>Implying net neutrality rules aren't to protect the freedom to access information

You realize that that's loaded question, do you not? Your question is full of assumptions that are not based in reality, for the largest part of the internet's history, net neutrality hasn't been a thing and none of the things in your question have happened.

>government
>protecting freedom
BAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH REDDITORS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

It's a backdoor plot for censorship.
First the government claims they need to control something "for your protection."
Next the government does whatever it wants.

Strong, coming from a country where you can be fined or even jailed for torrenting...

Net neutrality has been the state of the internet since the beginning. It's big telco media that wants it to go away, and the shill Ajit Pai wants to help.

>you currently live in a country that lets you kill yourself with carbs.
>you're currently posting on Sup Forums talking about what the government can't and can do

you're very edgy user

because it hates google and facebook, who benefits from it. The downside is that you are essentially indirectly fighting for an oligopoly that has no intention of massively improving its infrastructure.

This is not true at all. It's faster because of a free market system in which providers compete and customers have the ability to compare prices and switch providers whenever they want.

Except for Kees Verhoeven of D66, none of the people in the Tweede Kamer even know how the internet works.

Shut up toothpaste did I give you permission to talk how about having a flag with original colors
>you're trying to hold a moral highground on fucking Sup Forums

>it's my freedom, that the government protect

we can do this all day fag; just admit I'm right and i'll leave you alone

>no net neutrality means more competition for ISPS
this is false, net neutrality doesn't change anything with regard to ISPS
> no net neutrality means more costs for liberal companies in Silicon Valley
sure, but it also increases cost for the consumer and ultimately the consumer will foot the bill, not the Silicon Valley companies, all this does will make them less competitive

>government can't control what people do anymore
The whole point of net neutrality is that government is not allowed to control the net and no one is, all web pages should be served. Net neutrality is pro freedom of speech. If you are against net neutrality you are against free-speech and for corporate power.

If you really believe this, why did it have to be enforced by law?